Politics › Re: Osinbajo Celebrates Pastors Adeboye, Olukoya As Unilag’s ‘firsts’ by Martinez19(m): 3:25pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Using their 'firsts' to dupe people.  |
Romance › Re: Guys, Do You Pray To Marry A Woman Like Your Mom? by Martinez19(m): 1:37pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
I wouldn't want a wife like mum. Tufiakwa. A house maid like my mum is better. |
Romance › Re: Lady Snubs Her Lover In Pre-Wedding Photo by Martinez19(m): 1:33pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The "Deaf" Theists. by Martinez19(op): 1:08pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
I won't be surprised if theists go through this thread and still ask the same questions I just gave answers to. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The "Deaf" Theists. by Martinez19(op): 12:58pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
JackBizzle: ^^^^
Martinez19, no need to even talk too much. We even have an example with the guy above me. See his reply- it is as if he is deaf to the logical argument you put forward.
The good news is that not all christians are this deaf. Some actually listen and give a good discussion on these points. The annoying ones will see that they dont have either the facts or logic behind them but will stil L argue.
Can you imagine that a christoan says that atheism is a mental disease but then his church members roll in the mud for prayers His post has no bearing on the topic. Those winners members are not serious.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Would Eliminating Religion Improve The World Or Worsen It? by Martinez19(m): 12:30pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Fleewpeed: pls what is the truth if i may ask do you have a dictionary, check the meaning of truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The "Deaf" Theists. by Martinez19(op): 12:26pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
6) ATHEISM IS A MENTAL ILLNESS AND HAVE DEVASTATING EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN : how does not believing in something because there is no evidence a mental illness? Atheist will believe in a god if and only if there is a good evidence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The "Deaf" Theists. by Martinez19(op): 12:07pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › The "Deaf" Theists. by Martinez19(op): 12:05pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Christians who argue with atheists have shown to be "deaf" and lack the ability to digest information. There have been many famous arguments that theists have put up to verify their God but these arguments have been debunked and trashed. What's surprising is that the same theists who brought up the arguments and those who have heard the refutation and debunking of these arguments still bring them up over and over again. It as if they are deaf or have dubiously feigned oblivion to the debunking of these arguments.
Let's look at the list of arguments that have been debunked but theists keep bringing them over and over again.
1) WITHOUT RELIGION OR GOD, THERE WOULD BE NO MORALITY : really, do you need Yahweh to figure out that killing is not good? Hell no! Christianity doesn't see anything wrong with slavery and is not against it. How come modern man frown at it? even christians today have reformed themselves to suit the societal construct that frowns at slavery. Where did the dislike for slavery, which the bible is not against, come from? From humans. Morality comes from us. NB: don't be surprised if theists read this and still propose that religion and God is the source of morality.
2) IF EVOLUTION IS TRUE AND HUMANS COME FROM APES, WHY ARE THERE STILL APES? For your information you theists, humans didn't evolve from apes. Humans and apes(chimpanzees, monkeys, gorilla etc.) all share a common ancestor according to the theory of evolution.
3) HOW CAN ATHEISTS SAY NOTHING PRODUCED EVERYTHING? For the upteenth time, there is no such thing as nothing. Gosh. Matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can be transferred from one form to another. Given this, matter and energy have always existed since the very beginning but as different forms from what is it today.
4) WHY DO ATHEISTS BOTHER EVEN IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD? I addressed that in a topic of mine but it seemed theists like butterflylion and felixomor, who both read the topic, were "deaf" as they were still asking me why I bother even when I don't believe in Yahweh. Read that topic of mine.
5) ATHEISTS DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD BUT BELIEVE IN SATAN AND DEMONS: chai, we don't believe in Satan, demons and evil spirit. They don't exist.
Atheists add yours..... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Would Eliminating Religion Improve The World Or Worsen It? by Martinez19(m): 11:09am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Religion is a hindrance to truth and progress of human specie. We don't know the value of the truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 9:09pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Originakalokalo: You don't lie for Jesus.
What for?
To win souls?
You don't win souls. The Holy Spirit does that by himself.
If you lie for any reason, that's the works of the flesh.
A child of God will not lie. The devil is a liar and the father of lies.  I for write something but you just weak me. |
Romance › Re: Guys!!! What Do You Think About Her Legs (photos) by Martinez19(m): 6:25pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Peachess: I detest potbelly and fat, maybe the ladies you've met do, but I don't like it. Don't mind him. I don't see anything special about pot belly, it is irritating. |
Romance › Re: Proud Nigerian Husband Wakes Wife Up With Breakfast In Bed (Photos) by Martinez19(m): 5:54pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
dacblogger: F**k your husband good at night and he will serve you breakfast in bed the next morning... 
Dnt ask me how I know  nah, sex is overrated. I will do more for my wife without her fucking me good at night. |
Romance › Re: Guys!!! What Do You Think About Her Legs (photos) by Martinez19(m): 5:47pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Peachess: Stop making hasty generalizations, I'm a Nigerian girl and I'm not full of fat. How about most Nigerian men with belly so big they can hardly see their d!cks 
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Romance › Re: Sex Is Food!!!! Exclusively Baby by Martinez19(m): 5:31pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
When we will stop being primitive in the country? sex is for reproduction, nothing more nothing less. If I will give birth to three children in this life, I will only have sex three times. Sex is overrated in my generation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Secret Of Christianity--- Part One- Just Like Sports Betting. by Martinez19(m): 4:25pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
HardMirror: I did not start gambling because I wanted to make money. But after I had lost about 500,000 I became more determined to make money out of gambling.
I believed I was a smart guy, I am very good at forecasting games. So I never believed in joining any punting group. I could do it myself!
Many christians feel pastors and churches are frauds so they decide to stay at home and pray by themselves. They believe God has promised to answer them whenever they call on his name. DON'T WORRY, such christians will still run to church. WHY? Because when really desperate situation hits you it is human nature to cryout for help and associate with those he thinks have answers to problems he has and this is exactly what happened to me.
I got fed up and thought perhaps it's time to seek help, it's time to associate with gambling groups on whatsapp, Bbm, facebook, and Nairaland.
So I started from nairaland, there are many such threads here claiming they can help you. Go to those threads on business and sports section and see how people are losing and coming up with new strategies everyday and people keep believing there will be a glorious day.
Then I found a BBM channel, this guy was dropping risky games amd was winning. He was dropping correct scores and was winning. This guy has over 200 followers paying N5,000 per month to him to give them games!
I was excited I called him and quickly joined his VIP GROUP on whatsapp. hahahahahahah, some christians will tell you that don't depend on any pastor since christianity is between you and your God. When wahala hit them hard and they can't contain it, they zoom to some prayer centre. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 2:42pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Image123: Some of the personal experiences he shared are provable if you care enough. Don't be an armchair critic relying on YouTube videos. Get out there and actually do some investigating if you feel concerned. Relationship with God is personal, not a laboratory experience. provable? How can you prove that a voice spoke to someone? Personal experiences are not irrefutable to the other party because you might as well be telling lies. There is no way to disprove or prove personal experiences. The YouTube videos I asked him to research on are good proofs by all means. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 2:23pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Image123: The sceptics are sceptical as usual. See as that one sidestepped all the instances the originalk moniker gave hiding his head shamelessly in some YouTube video of course I gave him the meaning of the word "irrefutable". I didn't hide using any YouTube video. The likes of Benny Hinn, TD Jakes, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen etc. have been exposed on YouTube, search and you will see it. Personal experiences are not proofs, they hold not water to the other because you might be lying. Many have shown to be liars for christ and Islam. So, you see, personal accounts are useless. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 2:22pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Image123: The sceptics are sceptical as usual. See as that one sidestepped all the instances the originalk moniker gave hiding his head shamelessly in some YouTube video of course I gave him the meaning of the word "irrefutable". I didn't hide using any YouTube video. The likes of Benny Hinn, TD Jakes, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen etc. have been exposed on YouTube, search and you will see it. Personal experiences are not proofs, they hold not water to the other because you might be lying. Many have shown to be liars for christ and Islam. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 12:02pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Originakalokalo: What's your idea of irrefutable miracle?
If it is irrefutable to me and it is refutable to you,
How do you reconcile it?
How about a boiling water falling on someone's leg, all over
And after Prayers, there was no scar? Without a single drug?
How about some strange disease that has been since childhood and it disappeared after Prayers in less than a day?
How about a leg that is not balance ie shorter than the other after months of prayer, became the same length?
How about seeking to read a book about God...in order to know more about him....
And a title you have never heard of was given in the dream.....and after searching Google, it actually exist with a known author? ( That title is one and written by the author alone)
How about knowing when you will loose your father and why he is been taken away through the dream?
How about me receiving a call from home around 11:30pm at night. I didn't pick the call. After some minutes, I heard clearly
" Your father is dead" after the vision I explained above.
Someone that was not sick. Nothing. They were calling to tell me to pray because he was involved in an accident. He was being treated.
They we're praying then for treatment to help him. I was told by the holy Spirit that he was dead when they called. I was not there. They didn't know that he was dead already.
Death certificate reads 8:05pm.
The timing I got from the dream was correct. Absolutely.
Are these irrefutable proofs enough?
Are they really irrefutable? I would have asked you to check the meaning of irrefutable in the dictionary but let me save you the stress. An irrefutable miracle is a miracle that can't be disproved ie. shown to be a lie, staged, faked or due to some underlying natural process that would still happen whether your God is invoked or not. The miracle of leg being the same length have been explained exposed, YouTube is thy friend. |
Politics › Help Me With Answers? Ipob And Nigeria Matter. by Martinez19(op): 11:54am On Oct 13, 2017 |
If a group of people decide to be alone and govern themselves, why can't they be? Nb: I am not a political person but I am just curious as to why they can't let ipob be and have their own country.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 10:59am On Oct 13, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Cunning Motives Of The Bible Writers. by Martinez19(op): 10:55am On Oct 13, 2017 |
When you read the bible, it's obvious that the bible is not an outdated philosophy. It was never a philosophical answer to philosophical questions instead it's obvious, from reading it, that it was a deliberate act of deceiving, brainwashing, controling and exploiting people. Very cunning in it's motive. To simply put, it's what you would expect from someone who attempts to successfully dish out a loving and all powerful god that is nonexistent. You try to achieve the same thing and you will see yourself employing the same techniques of the bible.
Ever heard thou shall not test/coerce the Lord thy God? Is that written to be a sincere characteristic of Yahweh or is there a hidden motive? The first challenge or hurdle you get when you invent an all loving and all powerful god is the test and proving of your claims. The writers of the bible were no fools. They knew people would ask them to prove their god through miracles, accurate prophecies, etc.(of course every claim must be tested) So they carved out thou shall not test the Lord thy God. Following this, I hope you know the motives behind "you shall not put the Lord to the test". Would you say Yahweh can't pull a single demonstration to save multitude of souls given that he so much wants them to be saved?
Take a look at prayer, if I were to recommend prayer to you successfully even when I know that it doesn't work and I want you to buy the idea that prayer to nonexistent, all loving, and all powerful Yahweh works as a solution to all problems, it should not be a shocker when I employ the tools of "patience", "endurance", " god works in a mystery way", "god knows best and it might not be the will of god", "that's not God works", "faith without works" etc. These would be my deliberate attempt to buy time and ultimately justify the eventually unanswered prayer. A very manipulative strategy indeed. Open a thread on nairaland and ask christians for any irrefutable miracle that God has done for them, you see them avoid it or blab about. The truth is there are no such things as healing of sickness of all kinds through faith and prayer.
Lastly, given that I can't prove the God I want to dish out to people but I must succeed in selling it out to them what tool do I use? Faith! yes, faith! The belief in something without proof and evidence. I won't just stop there, I would magnify it as a virtue so that others will be eager and quick to embrace it.
..... to be continued |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians, Pool,soccer Betting And Gambling by Martinez19(m): 9:49am On Oct 13, 2017 |
OtemAtum: Well...the christians have a far far larger number of people playing bet in Nigeria than the irreligious. It's an individual thing. Jesus should provide for them if he doesn't like them playing bet9ja. spot on! *Chop knuckle* |
Christianity Etc › Re: Alien, Bigfoot, Mermaid, Ghost And Many Other Scary Things Exist! by Martinez19(m): 11:13pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
We live in a world of lies, make believe and deception. I trust myself only. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheists And Skeptics Just An Angry Bunch Or Are They Actually Realistic? by Martinez19(m): 11:37am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Ioseph: Agnostic atheism is not "logically impossible" - it denotes uncertainty.
Because while 'technically' the existence of a so-called "creator being" is not ruled out, the idea of an abrahamic god in line with the Judaic, Christian or Muslim faiths is utterly nonsensical. The creation myth is simply put, debunked. The abrahamic god has no claims to legitimacy over the god or gods of any other human religion, and it's intense following worldwide through Islam and Christianity was created from conquest and the spread of religion by sword., not by any rabbithole of comparison and reasoning.
Actually, it's the other way around - this is exactly how Christianity works.
Christianity and Islam are a mad-man's agnosticism. keep an eye on that moniker, some moments later, he will go back to square one stating the very same thing you just replied.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheists And Skeptics Just An Angry Bunch Or Are They Actually Realistic? by Martinez19(m): 11:04am On Oct 10, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheists And Skeptics Just An Angry Bunch Or Are They Actually Realistic? by Martinez19(m): 10:06am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Ray comfort the banana man. He said banana is a proof of a divine creator(just Google him). He created the documentary called atheist delusion. He just weak me  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by Martinez19(m): 2:22am On Oct 10, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Ridiculous Prophesy That Has Ever Been Given To You? by Martinez19(m): 1:06am On Oct 10, 2017 |
sircrabo: According to the bible " despise not prophesyings " if you ever meet someone that tells you anything in the name of prophecy, never despise the message openly. Just leave it for God to have the final say. Some self aclaimed prophets are evil. They can manipulate events to prove themselves right
If they tell you you'll have an accident, some that are evil can cause that to happen. At that point, don't argue with them. Just let god lead
I ws told one girl has initiated me into emire kingdom with fanta, I can't remember taking fanta from any girl. Since then I've been looking to see the girl that will offer me fanta. Lol.
I was also told I am a good footballer. I played ball last in second sch. 15yrs ago.
Another prophet told my sister that I'm a cultist that he sees me wearing uniform with my members. I did part time and didn't stay on campus, no time for campus life not to talk of cult. After that day, they started suspecting me at home. I am a god fearing young man with no thoughts of joining any cult.
My sister was told to marry her fiancee that is heaven made union. they are now seperated after 3yrs of marriage
Don't argue, let god have the final say argue o. If people had argued rather than follow sheepishly, bad things wouldn't have happened. Bottom line is that all religious gods and doctrines are man made. All sacred books are bunks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerians Are Too Religious To Progress_Radio Presenter Michael Effiong by Martinez19(m): 9:44pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
True talk! |
Car Talk › Re: Watch The New Nissan e-NV200 Pull A House,Sets An Electric Van Towing Record by Martinez19(m): 7:35am On Oct 09, 2017 |
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