Health › Re: No Amount Of Alcohol Use Is Safe, New Studies Finds - Bloomberg by Martinez19(m): 5:26pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
100bands: That’s why you should take the herb instead Cannabis is the healing of the nation SMH. |
Family › Re: I Was A Good Girl But Why Did God Allow This To Happen To Me? by Martinez19(m): 5:16pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
soundforce: PLEASE, DON'T BLAME GOD for your misfortune. If you couldn't do all the findings from 2013-2016, it's all your fault cos you were carried away by fantasies n fairy takes.you made the decisions n not GOD. lol. Might defender of god. Would have cost god much to minister to her or show her a vision concerning the man? Let me hear your excuse. Mtewwww. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Depression Is Killing Me. Pls Help by Martinez19(m): 6:20am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Hmmmm. Op, you need to put yourself in order. First thing you have to do is to come to terms will reality so that you know where you stand in life and you can begin to take realistic approach to solving life problems. First, free your mind and remove that mental shackle called religion. If you have gone through many things in life and you are wise, you would need no one to tell you that religious gods don't exist. Religion and other world mysticisms are ridiculous garbages and falsehoods with no concrete basis in reality. Put god aside and face life. At this point, you don't need to be hindered.
Your depression seems circumstantial not clinical. It's best you see a therapist. Calm yourself and don't make decisions you will regret later. You are going through a hard time. Since you are good at playing the keyboard, develop that skill, go and look for churches that will pay you to play for them. Develop and keep upgrading your skill in playing the keyboard. Start step by step. |
Romance › Re: Meet The Incredibly Handsome Nigerian-british Photographer Josiah Chukwuemeka by Martinez19(m): 12:24am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Nigerian-British not British-Nigerian. A British-Nigerian would be British by genetics but Nigerian by nationality ie. a white man who is a citizen of Nigeria. Genetics first then nationality.  |
Romance › Re: My Supposed 28 Years Old Boyfriend Shared Me With His Friends To Tempt Me by Martinez19(m): 11:29pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
@Loveisascam
Your boyfriend and his second friend are not serious. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Joseph Ayo Babalola's 112th Birthday (posthumous) Is Today! by Martinez19(m): 10:03pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Thief. |
Nairaland General › Re: Drug Tunnel Ran From Old KFC In Arizona To Mexico Bedroom by Martinez19(m): 10:08pm On Aug 24, 2018 |
Geosystem: wonders shall never end, Mexico , a country that consumes hard drugs like chocolate. Their drug cartels are impossible to eradicate. As long there are people willing sell and people willing to buy and get high, the cartels remain. |
Politics › Re: Why I Am Renouncing My Nigerian Citizenship - By Aroms Aigbehi by Martinez19(m): 6:13pm On Aug 24, 2018 |
lionness: Mr Aroms you probably didn't study psychology and biology while in school. In biology, species of animal behave and act differently. You have to take a biological and psychological approach to studying Nigerians - and realize that it is extremely fatal to generalize or assume every Nigerian behave a like - and if you don't realize this, you will end up been frustrated wherever you go. Here's my own observation:
Nigerians: a group of people where a ration of 90:10 people are enslaved to backwardness, flawed educational system plus thinking, toxic and highly retrogressive religious beliefs, ethnicity, shallowness and held captive by leaders of like minds. It's dangerous to appear different in such cases, but you can become a god among Nigerians as these people are the most foolish and easiest to fool. Stop been honest in this country, simply put, know them and use their weakness lol. You can use their weakness as long as you are nor greedily exploiting them. |
Health › Re: Rats, Mosquitoes Or Bed Bugs: Which Is The Most Annoying To Have In The Room? by Martinez19(m): 12:40pm On Aug 24, 2018 |
Bed bugs are the worse. They are impossible to eradicate, a single bed bug in your house can colonise your house within two weeks; they will irreversible stain your foams, walls, sofas, books etc. with their gathering and small black dots(maybe it's their poo  ) and they cause great discomfort and distress bites bring. They are vicious and smart attackers. They are good at locating you and they know how to run and hide strategically. If you kill them by smashing them, you will have to cope with the disgusting odour that comes from them and the near irreversible stain from the smashed body. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 11:43am On Aug 24, 2018 |
DavidEsq: Pls that scripture does not apply to physical sickness. If u look at the last line in verse 15, it says "also if he has committed sins he wld be forgiven". This is not the case wr Jesus forgave the sins of the man sick of palsy. because it was Jesus himself who had not yet offered himself as a sacrificial lamb that made that statement and that was why he told the Pharisees that the power to forgive sins ws upon him. The scripture in James is telling us the importance of confessing our sins to the elders (not pastors which is being wrongly used, as the bible never provided for pastors) who preside over the congregation. To buttress my point, look at verse 16. It is a conclusion of verse 15 which says "therefore, openly confess ur sins to one another.....". He made it clear that confession of one's sins is the basis of "healing". What type of healing requires a prior confession as a condition manifestation? In all bible records, there is none. So what James was talking about is spiritual healing, freeness of speech, as a result of a clear conscience an keeping the congregation clean.  mtewwww. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Being A Moderate Christian or Muslim. by Martinez19(op): 11:11am On Aug 24, 2018 |
paxonel: op, there is no scripture in the bible that makes any christian a troublesome fundermentalist or do you have any?
This shows that extremists are always very wrong, because they don't know their bible or Quran as the case may be.
As for being moderate or not being moderate in christianity, you don't need to read all the bible and know everything for you to be a christian .
Just believe in christ and love your neighbour that's all.
Whether you end up becoming a non moderate extremist fundermentalist or not, God is not interested in all that, you are on your own.
Just believe in christ that's all.
All these church church rubbish I nor know where e dey Nigeria as a nation to Tozara, take a look at this. A moderate on spot. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 9:37pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: I never said modern medicine is a must. I think you are the one with comprehension problems here... it’s a choice and it’s common sense to apply modern medicine. Of course it's common sense to apply medicine and as you have admitted, it's a choice  . Very good  . @bolded Really?!  Then why were you getting worked up and countering me when I said faith alone is sufficient for successful healing?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 9:29pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: again, the bad basis thought is your opinion and view. You can’t force it on me The fact that I cannot force it on you has no bearing on it's validity. The fact that you reject my view and opinion has no bearing on their validity. Fact remains that christianity has a bad and unsound basis. A bad and unsound basis is not a concrete basis. Christianity has no concrete basis. #fact |
Crime › Re: Breaking: Smoking Weed Ages Your Brain By Almost 3 Years~ New Research by Martinez19(m): 9:20pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
Kimsokrates: Despite all these,the irony is that people will still continue to smoke. What people gain from smoking is still what I am yet to find out.Smoking is synonymous with commiting slow suicide When it comes to addiction, people would live in denial and try to find safety in numbers.  I have been telling people that weed negatively affects cognition but they keep "laughing". |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 9:13pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: your basis are not needed here as that’s not what the thread is about. I came defining the literal meaning of faith which applies to religion and non religion. The argument is not about the basis of existence of God. It’s about the meaning of faith. You came with “Christians don’t have a reason” but now you have agreed to the reason I gave and that’s the belief in God. Whether it’s silly to you or makes sense it’s none of my business. We have established the fact there has to be a reason or belief for faith to exist. This is something you missed and thought the Christian faith didn’t have. They have but it does not make sense to you and your likes and this making sense thought doesn’t really matter you know. Ofcourse if you are not in misery, you won’t come wanting to preach that another man’s belief is silly or looking for proves of God’s existence. When it’s something you know has been debated without results. It annoys me when I see your likes tell me to go read bible again, claim to be ex Christians and now believe there is no God. So why did you accept Jesus, read the whole bible in the first instance. Did they put your sense in a snail shell when you did  shifting the goal post. You are a liar. I emphasised in my detailed explanation(using the example of faith in Chelsea's victory over West Ham) that you have a reason but that reason has a bad basis(which is equivalent to no concrete basis) from which no one can drew a reasonable conclusion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 9:13pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: the bolded is what I want to hear you admit and confess. Yes, The bible is for the gospel, faith being part of the gospel thus the reason for citing it as important and sufficient spiritually. A medical book with its prescription may be sufficient medically... you get it now!  SMH. Cunning man. I or the bible never said SPIRITUALLY sufficient alone, you invented that. Faith healing encompasses both physical and spiritual because God, in the spiritual, supplies the power and the healing takes place in the physical, the bible says faith is sufficient for that process to occur successfully so why discourage or get worked up over the use of faith alone? Answer!  Since the bible neither embraced nor reject the necessity, importance and assistance of modern medicine, using modern medicine is a choice to the believer because you must note that faith is regarded as entirely sufficient. Therefore you have no good biblical basis to say that medicine is a must for the believer. You lack an impressive comprehensive ability or perhaps you are being dishonesty and playing mental gymnastics. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 8:37pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: you didn’t answer the scripture. My post was only to make you silly as you mentioned there is no where medicine is approved in that chapter. Oh! I forgot the scripture. Now, the bible never said "when you are sick, go take the balm of gilead" in fact I don't remember you taking the balm of gilead when you have malaria. I didn't say that the bible doesn't approve of medicine instead I said there is no where the bible said medicine is important and essential for healing. In fact the bible doesn't reject medicine neither did it claim it is to be embraced and essential for healing. However, the bible makes it clear that faith is important and SUFFICIENT. You are beginning to behave and sound like butterflyleo. I think you are being stupid or you are being dishonest or rascally. Go and read your bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Being A Moderate Christian or Muslim. by Martinez19(op): 8:20pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
Tozara: Just as stated once before: Exactly! It's all about feeling convenient. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Being A Moderate Christian or Muslim. by Martinez19(op): 8:16pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
Tozara: Martinez19, you're my man, always have been.
Always on point. I couldn't have said it better.
This is the reality of Abrahamism laid bare. This is exactly what I mean when I denounce it as pernicous and evil, and declare the moderates more harmful than the extremists----because the extremists are just as mad as their religion demands, and everyone hates them for it, while the moderates are more evil in a rather insidious way, since they're practically responsible for the perpetuation of extremist insanity, which will always remain with us as long as these barbaric faiths exist.
So the real battle is against the ignorance or sheer DISHONESTY of the liberal, secularized moderates, because that is THE CAUSE OF THE DISEASE ITSELF, not the fanaticism and madness of the fundamentalists, which are nothing but SYMPTOMS of the malady. Thank you. Most people love to feel good about themselves at the expense of reasoning. They embrace feelings and are short sighted. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 7:42pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: hahaha, you are only trying to make yourself feel good in your misery. Like I told you, the fact that you don’t believe what others believe does not nullify the other person’s belief. Now you wanna go the way “ let’s prove God’s existence” I have told you that’s the reasons and basis of Christian faith. Don’t worry, the challenges will pass and you will be calm me “ex Christian” who has read the Bible thoroughly. You go tey there  SMH, what makes you think I am miserable and struggling in life? So if someone is an atheist and asks for then you conclude that the person is passing through tough and miserable times in life? Isn't this stupid? @bolded True but that doesn't mean that they are right either and that doesn't mean I can't recognise if you have a good basis for your beliefs or not. @blue It's true that the basis of christianity is the belief in the existence of god(yahweh) but what's the basis of the belief in the existence of god? Give me a good answer. You are just being dishonest and/or silly. SMH  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 7:29pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: is there anywhere '' pray before using this drug'' is written on drugs?? this is because it is not what they are attending to at that time. have you forgotten the scripture'' is there no balm in Gilead, is there no physician there?? The bible does not negate medicine.... please read and understand. stop being frustrated and being an ex christian because you lack insight. Scientists know it's not useful and necessary to pray before taking a drug. Drugs will do their function whether you pray or not so no need to write "pray before using this drug". Example of things that are useful and/or necessary and therefore added are "store in a cool dry place", "keep out of children's reach", dosage and age restrictions, preparation(if necessary), ingredients (for knowledge and if you have possible allergies to the ingredients), "keep out of sun light" etc. Stop being stupid and plain silly. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 7:14pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: the chelsea is only an example you made which I am following. The no reason is where you have failed to comprehend. You believe in chelsea because you think or you know they have better players. I believe in God because I know he is the creator and the Almighty. This bolded is the reason for my faith just as the reason for your faith is the strength of the players. Stop coming that people don't have reasons because you don't believe in what they believe. It makes you sound silly.  @bolded Let me explain in details. FAITH IN CHELSEA1) I believe that Chelsea will beat West Ham. 2) My reasons is that they have better players (a good criterion). 3) I know this from looking at the statistics, their pervious games and squad (a good basis). 4) I don't rule out the possibility that an upset can occur(not certain and willing to admit my analysis and forcast can fail to match the eventual result). BIBLICAL FAITH IN CHELSEA(let's assume that Chelsea will beat West Ham was written in the bible because that's the only way to have biblical faith in Chelsea). 1) I believe then KNOW that Chelsea will beat West Ham. 2) My reason is that the bible says so. 3) I know this because the bible is true. 4) I know the bible is true because I believe it to be true by faith. (failed and bad basis that provides no good criterion and renders 2&3 useless and invalid) 5) there is no possibility that chelsea will lose the match since the bible says so(no good reason and unreasonably dogmatic). @red How did you know that he exist? How did you know he is the creator and almighty? How did you know that he is the christian god? Why not the Muslim god? You clearly have no concrete basis to conclude that a God exists; his is the almighty and creator and he is the christian. You believe and then know because of faith (believing and accepting without evidence). That faith is the substance and evidence of your belief in god's existence and his supposed attributes. This is pure stupidity and silliness.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 6:25pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: disbelief means loosing hope, being pessimistic, seeing the cup half empty. All of these have a higher chance of leading to failure thus faith failing has a higher chance leading to a failed result. It's as simple as this. What are you debating really??. Did James 5 tell you not to go to the hospital or take medicine. A prayer of faith will be said, the elders will anoint, the priest will lay his hands, there is no where "no medicine is written". These scriptures were written to affirm belief in the gospel. I have told you this. It doesn't negate or nullify doing the necessary!! There is no where "medicine is essential" is written. If medicine was important and necessary, it would have been written. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 3:09pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: where in the bible is the supernatural classified as things not seen. Show scriptures. You are saying trash. Where in the bible? If you do not have faith in Chelsea, will you go cheer them. If you are a chelsea fan and you don't believe in them will chelsea players be pleased with you? Will they be happy with you? The faith you are talking about in Chelsea is different from biblical faith in Chelsea. FAITH IN CHELSEA : I am supporting Chelsea to win BECAUSE I am a die hard fan and/or I believe they have better players. BIBLICAL FAITH IN CHELSEA: I am supporting Chelsea to BECAUSE I believe, for no reason or evidence, that they would. Chelsea don't really need my belief in their players, the most important thing is that I join their fan base and buy match tickets. That's what they just need. God, being all sufficient, shouldn't need my faith to be pleased. Maybe he is insecure. Your comprehensive ability and understanding is most unimpressive |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 2:57pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: you keep shouting the bible and it's because you have read it wrongly. You are an ex christian because you have read the bible wrongly, frustrated and can't apply the principles right. A little wisdom is what will save you. Are you saying if Jesus spoke to Peter, it excludes believers? What he says to one, he says to all- have you forgotten. Go get that clear. Yes, his faith- i.e belief in God not crumbling. This is to tell you there is a chance your faith fails due to the situation around you, you may not able to control those situations and what you need is prayer. For instance, chelsea may loose to arsenal because of situations chelsea may have no control over. Faith does not negate that fact that failure is possible. Faith is only a focus on the positive. Let the weak say I am strong. They are weak, the negative is there but they chose to be positive. There is a popular saying of seeing the cup half full or seeing the cup half empty. The former is regarded as being positive. This is what faith is about. The God factor is what makes it religious. Get wisdom brother. When you read the bible, read with understanding. Where in the bible is it written that all you need is faith to get healed? I am not disputing the fact that there are miracles. Miracles have been happening before the preaching of faith in the new testament. Faith does no replace work or doing the necessary. Read the bible again. This time read proverbs not just Hebrews alone. If you check well, the new testament was about spreading of the gospel. This gospel was new to many thus the emphasis on the need to believe so as to see results. You are the one who needs to read your bible. Show me scriptures that have cancelled out doing the necessary because faith exist. You are just all about convenience. Let's agree that Jesus was talking to Peter and it applies to believers(which it does even though they don't commit sin if the don't say that prayer). It still doesn't mean that faith, if applied, fails. Faith failing means you begin to disbelief. Suppose one prays for his faith not to fail after praying for faith healing, why should he go for plan B? Is prayer that useless? According to the bible, faith for healing without medicine can't fail. Let's look at James 5:14-16, it clearly shows that you don't need medicine to be healed. I ask, if your son happens to be sick, will you practice James 5:14-16? I know you won't because you are ignorant and/or dishonest. Good day and don't mention me again. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 2:05pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: again. Your type is quick to mention religion because of the bias you have for it. The same bible tells you pray that your faith may not fail. Now if the Bible does not believe one’s faith can fail will what the be in the Bible. Go to your dictionary again, you will see complete trust.... faith does not nullify the place of planB or other options or contingency plans. Like I said you have related wiTh the Christians that use faith to cover for weaknesses. There is no where in the Bible where one is told not to take medications or go to hospital. @ bolded, shows clearly the type of Christians you have related with and why you have come with your silly assumptions. Whoever stays at home without going for medical care and believes he will be healed is wasting his time. The work in this situation is going to the hospital and faith without work is dead. You can’t be believing God for healing and not be taking care of yourself. That’s plain stupidity. Like I told you clearly, the God factor is the differentiating factor. Being spiritual in every situation is what makes the Christian faith different not the fact that you do not do things required and expect results. Faith without deeds is dead!!!!!. The substance of things hoped for- what you are doing, evidence of things not seen- belief that you have the results. There is no where the required actions are nullified. Relate broadly with Christians and don’t mix up the Bible you know nothing about. Are you alright? Do you think you are chatting with an atheist that doesn't really know much of christianity. I am an ex-christian and I read and digested the bible very well so stop your dishonesty, it's annoying. Or perhaps you are ignorant of christianity and you need to read your bible. Your understanding of "... pray that your faith will not fail" is too unimpressive. Let me explain. You purposely and dishonestly(or perhaps ignorantly) left out the fact that, in Luke 22:32, it was Jesus saying that he has prayed for Peter that his faith will not fail. It was not a general commandment to all believers that they should pray so that their faith will not fail. A faith failing doesn't mean that faith, if applied correctly, will sometimes fail or is uncertain instead it means that your belief in god and christianity crumbles ie. you are beginning to/have disbelieved in god and Christianity. In Peter's case, Jesus prayed so that Peter would not disbelieve due to hardship and trials and that when he is strong, he will strengthen his brother's faith. Stop twisting things. According to the bible, faith is sufficient to heal diseases and disease won't be healed if your faith fail(as I explained). Please, read your bible. Your understanding of "pray that your faith will not fail is flawed because if one prays that his faith will not fail, why should he be worried that his faith will fail? Why should he take measures(PLAN B) incase his faith fails? Is prayer that useless? Or should he pray that his prayer for his faith not to fail should not fail?  Please, please, please and please read your bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 1:37pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
Martinez19: The hope and faith non-belivers have usually has a logical basis in reality eg. I believe Chelsea will beat West Ham (there is a good reason to believe so). Most times, with some exception, the hope and faith of non-belivers is not absolutely certain to materialise and even non-belivers admit that there are probabilities that their hope and faith may fail. It's when the chances are high or significant that they start having hopes and faith.
For the christian, faith is believing(with certainty) without evidence. Unlike the unbelievers, they are certain that they are correct and can't be wrong even though they have no basis or evidence. What are those things believed? 1) The existence of god. 2) The entire bible.
If you believe the bible, you would believe that if you pray to God to heal your diseases without going to hospital, it would work. No unbeliever has the hope, confidence or faith to try such rubbish. The bible says that faith is SUBSTANCE of things hoped for and EVIDENCE of things not seen. Ponder on the upper case words and you will see that that verse describes the function of faith in christianity not it's definition. When believing without evidence or concrete basis is the substance of what you hope for and is the evidence of things not you don't see then you are plain stupid. This shows your entire religion has no basis in reality.
Please, please, please and please, go and read your bible. Cc. hopefulLandlord, HardMirror, @majekdom2 You also need to ask yourself what are those things hoped for and what those things not seen. THINGS HOPED FOR( A): 1) promises in the bible eg. answered prayer(faith healing and others), prophecies(second coming) etc. 2) guaranteed results of following rules stated in the bible eg. have faith(even as little as a mustard seed) and you will get whatsoever you ask for God in prayer according to his will; protection of his children  ; if you believe in God and keep his commandments you will go to heaven, etc. THINGS NOT SEEN( B): All that constitute the so-called supernatural eg. God, Jesus, holy spirit, angels, Satan, demons, hell, heavens and others. Faith is the evidence and substance of the certainty and eventual materialisation(where appropriate) of A and B. Looking at this, it becomes clear that faith, in the bible, is simply believing, without any basis and/or evidence, the doctrines of christianity(which includes A and B). Also according to Heb. 11:6, you are must have faith to believe in God and it's a condition to please him( a cunning strategy to bound people and subject to maintaining faith in god). If you believe in God by faith, you will automatically believe the entire bible by faith. So we can accurately see that in christianity, believing(without evidence or any logical basis) is the evidence of things hoped for, things not seen(eg. existence of god and all supernatural) and the entire bible. Please read your bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 11:55am On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: according to dictionary faith is: complete trust or confidence in someone or something. According to the bible: being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. Since many of you find it hard to comprehend: we hope for something, so in the bible, faith is being sure of something, something that is yet to come to reality. According to the dictionary: complete trust means being sure. So, we are being sure or confident in someone or something. You can be sure of the work of your hands to give positive results. The positive results here is hope because you have not yet seen it or know it. So is there really a difference here Ignorance is the problem with many of you thus you are not patient with people's belief. I am not disputing the fact that there a lazy people that use "religious faith" as cover but please always think broad. The hope and faith non-belivers have usually has a logical basis in reality eg. I believe Chelsea will beat West Ham (there is a good reason to believe so). Most times, with some exception, the hope and faith of non-belivers is not absolutely certain to materialise and even non-belivers admit that there are probabilities that their hope and faith may fail. It's when the chances are high or significant that they start having hopes and faith. For the christian, faith is believing(with certainty) without evidence. Unlike the unbelievers, they are certain that they are correct and can't be wrong even though they have no basis or evidence. What are those things believed? 1) The existence of god. 2) The entire bible. If you believe the bible, you would believe that if you pray to God to heal your diseases without going to hospital, it would work. No unbeliever has the hope, confidence or faith to try such rubbish. The bible says that faith is SUBSTANCE of things hoped for and EVIDENCE of things not seen. Ponder on the upper case words and you will see that that verse describes the function of faith in christianity not it's definition. When believing without evidence or concrete basis is the substance of what you hope for and is the evidence of things not you don't see then you are plain stupid. This shows your entire religion has no basis in reality. Please, please, please and please, go and read your bible. Cc. hopefulLandlord, HardMirror, |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 11:24am On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: work without faith ( biblical/ non biblical) WILL never work. This is because you have not believed in the work. For your work to "work", you got to believe in it. This is "faith". The substance of things hoped for. Why did I say it will not work. This is because success is never a one time thing. Never. You keep trying and trying till you get it right. If you do not have faith, you won't try. You won't put your best after you have failed different times. There is a strong correlation between the following words- faith, hope, tenacity, patience and success. Where you mention one, expect to mention another. When people give up, they have lost faith, hope or patience. So you see for your work to work, there needs to be an element of faith. Will NEVER work? SMH. You are confusing hope and biblical faith. Go and read your bible.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 11:23am On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: you are limiting faith here to religion. Faith is belief in something. When you work you have to believe in that work for it to succeed. This is what people call hope. Whichever, you need faith or hope for your work to succeed. The biblical/definition of faith is different from the "English language" definition of faith. The faith you are talking about is different from that of religious faith. There is no case of limit the definition of faith here. It's just that you lack of understanding and that's why I said go and read the bible to understand the meaning of biblical faith. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Who Used To Go To Church 3 Times A Week, Stops After Visiting UK by Martinez19(m): 11:23am On Aug 23, 2018 |
majekdom2: work without faith ( biblical/ non biblical) WILL never work. This is because you have not believed in the work. For your work to "work", you got to believe in it. This is "faith". The substance of things hoped for. Why did I say it will not work. This is because success is never a one time thing. Never. You keep trying and trying till you get it right. If you do not have faith, you won't try. You won't put your best after you have failed different times. There is a strong correlation between the following words- faith, hope, tenacity, patience and success. Where you mention one, expect to mention another. When people give up, they have lost faith, hope or patience. So you see for your work to work, there needs to be an element of faith. Will NEVER work? SMH. You are confusing hope and biblical faith. Go and read your bible.
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