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hopefulLandlord:
OP dishonestly changed many of the verses to fit his agenda. if you don't believe me just Google each verse and see. for instance *Proverbs 13:11* doesn't say anything about "get rich quick"

I guess lying is okay, so long you're doing it for Jesus. isn't that what most preachers do anyways?

It's their modus operandi.

"Serrgiiio! sergio!!"

I will never forget this chant by City fans.

Ovo200:
If you are still in doubt about the efficacy of the red pills just take a look and see the time the troll is trolling. How can a sane human wake up so early to troll? no meditation, no prayer just woke up early in the morning to spew rubbish. I believe one day the red pill will become mainstream and we shall see feminism crumble in our time. We shall build boys to become hard in order not to fall into the trap of feminism.

I personally doubt that the red pill in its true and concentrated from will become mainstream in our lifetime. I don't think feminism will become a thing of the past in our lifetime. Even if the red pill becomes mainstream, what you will have is a diluted version of it that has been watered-down to accommodate and endorse people's feelings and sense of decency, common sense, ethics and morality.

Most people can't handle the red pill in its raw form and go deep. Highest, most stay on the surface and unknowingly merge it with the blue pill in them while convincing themselves that they are redpillers who are fully abreast on female nature and the red pill. Usually, they are a fraction of the purple pill folks.

In the past, when I was new to the red pill, some old redpillers I met used to tell me that not every man can handle the red pill when they go deep and I have to be humble when learning the red pill because not every redpiller is deep into it as they think. They said there are always many new things to learn. In fact, they said the red pill is not for everyone. Naive, teenage me thought they were being condescending and a bit patronising; I mean, who should play god and determine who the red pill (that is invaluable to all) is for or not for? They laughed. Naive me. My experiences have taught me they were right.

Red pill in its true and raw form will always be in the tiny minority of men, at least not in our lifetime.

Lightway:
Martiñez39s,  CaveAdùllam, Ubuñja. What's your response to this?

Since you asked, I will answer. I hope it is not too late. This is my take on YOUR POST.

There is an adage "men love ideally, women love opportunistically." Men have the capacity to fall in love in its true and ideal sense, and they do fall in love. As a wise mathematician once put it, and I concur, "to love is to be delighted by the happiness of someone, or to experience pleasure upon the happiness of another. I define this as true love." I will also add that the evidence and language of true love are sacrifices; the greater your love is for a person, the more you are willing to make sacrifices for that person. All these and great solicitude have men showered on women for generations.

On the other hand, women don't have this capacity towards men; nature formed them differently. Don't let any man or woman beguile you into thinking otherwise. Women only romantically associate with you based what they can benefit from you and how you make them feel, they are unapologetically all about their best interests. Your past sacrifices mean absolutely nothing, and they will readily jump on to a better, available option or leave when you have totally outlived your usefulness to them; even if you had donated a kidney or lost an arm for your spouse (gf, wife, etc), this is still valid. Female nature sees men as expendable utilities. Many men don't know this since they are blue pill folks. Mutual true love that men think they have in their relationships are only in their heads; the mutual true love is blue pill lie. The inherent capacity for true love in men doesn't exist from a woman's end. Women are fully aware of this and they don't usually reveal this for obvious reasons, hence such blue pill lie is only swallowed by men.

Sometimes, when you see a man training a woman in school or providing for his girlfriend in prodigious amounts, it is not necessarily because of pùssy. Some of these things are done genuinely out of love and care, out of kindness of heart. True love wants to see the beloved happy, prosperous and growing. Most redpillers have been in this boat before during their blue pill years. Regardless of why a blue pill man chooses a woman for committed relationships, his capacity for true love will assert itself in many instances. I am not saying men don't do simpish stuff and display all sorts of foolery just to get laid; obviously that biological urge for sex has put a lot of men in trouble and embarrassing situations. Nevertheless, observation and experience show that men do love in its true sense.

The problem is that the blue pill and the ignorance of the red pill do a great job from birth in hijacking and preying upon this inherent capacity and our biological urges in order to lead us to blue pill fantasies and unrealistic goals and expectations, I CAN EXPLAIN FURTHER IF YOU WANT. These fantasies and delusions exist but they do not invalidate that men do genuinely love.

It is so sad that the rapist never got to suffer for what he did. He has forever eluded the claws of justice.

I stopped going to church when I observed that God is non-existent and the Bible is one big fabrication.

How do I face Liverpool fans now?

My dog is named Man Utd because he is so useless.

CaveAdullam:
This people don't know that the success of the intersexual dynamics is underpinned by a whole lot of factors. They think relationship is motivation quotes, and that's why there will continue to be collision between the genders.

Minimum wage in Nigeria is 30,000. Monthly salary ranges between 25,000 - 2,000,000.
The people that earn 70,000 and above are a tiny minority considering the population statistics and the skills required to earn such. These jobs are not readily available. And if they were, unemployment rates would have seriously decrease. In essence, economics affects dating and relationship.

In a third world country like Nigeria, what Buchi is saying is unrealistic and preposterous when it comes to a long lasting relationship.

Other factors like intelligence, morality and culture which constitutes the zeitgeist of now and in addition: politics, socioeconomic condition, nature and biology are the underpinning factors that determines the success of male-female sexual relationship.

A whole lot can be written on this. But I will stop here. Thanks.

Solomon Buchi is a clown and mangina. I am always laughing when I read his posts.

I will renounce the red pill when this makes sense.

Oyin2212:
If someone believes in MGTOW or no marriage, he is automatically a junky?

Lol.

BLOODYSPERM:
We knew these day was coming
America first female president

I remember when we spoke at length about gynocentrism in developed countries, feminism and absurd marital laws, child support laws, and domestic violence laws. We also spoke about the participation of women in position of power. We predicted that Biden might be a trojan horse for the Harris administration. We might be wrong, but let's see how it turns out. Biden will likely come back.

SOZINN:
Nigga You See NYSC babes.
Just leave them. When I used to work in my school as an IT staff. Whenever married female students want to go for service you will notice some changes.

1. They will stop wearing their wedding rings.
2. Their skin tone will lighten up.
3. The way they dress will change. (You know na).
4. They will beg you, even pay you to change their state of service. This is because they are supposed to serve in their state of residence as married women.

This is not the case with all of them but most of them do it. Especially the young ones that married early. If your relationship with a woman can survive the attacks of school and NYSC. That relationship is strong like vibranium.

Lol. University and NYSC? Don't mention. God wouldn't have chosen Virgin Mary as the mother of Jesus if she had gone to certain NYSC camps in her youth.

This is useful for those who will be opportuned to coach a newbie in the red pill. It could be your brother, friend or an acquaintance. I had to touch this point as it occurred to me.

This has been amended. I meant "this", not "his." Typo. Cheers!

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Some of what I wrote pertain to what happened recently, some don't. All is for our edification and improvement in the way things are handle here. Make of what you will about what I have written and no one should see this as an attack directed at anyone or an emotional response. Finally, concerning the clash that transpired recently, I wasn't impressed with both sides. Some people were guilty of putting words inside the mouth of some in certain instances; some people were guilty of making silly assumptions. I don't have strength to go into details. Some people from both sides no try in certain instances. The discourse betrayed logic. I believe we can do better. I don't know about others, but I harbour no hard feelings towards anyone. Cheers!


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This is useful for those who will be opportuned to coach a newbie in the red pill. It could be your brother, friend or an acquaintance. I had to touch this point as it occurred to me.

[5] (a) Whether we like it or not, red pill is not mainstream. Not many can handle it; it is bitter and harsh and uncomfortable to many, especially the conventional mind. This is true especially when you dive deep. The revelations it gives, especially the deep ones, can make the conventional mind think it is some misogynistic, counterintuitive, toxic, bitter, vile, dysfunctional and immoral stuff. Lol. If red pill becomes mainstream, it will get watered-down and diluted to accommodate people's feelings. Redpillers are a minority and the red pill is an aberration from conventional thoughts.

[5] (b) Suppose you feel or think a particular person appears disgruntled at the red pill truths he has come across and began to accept, do not foolishly assume he is not a redpiller or he is seeing women as his problem in life. This doesn't make sense. Don't assume he is a loser who hasn't gone out there to conquer or he is unsuccessful. This isn't productive and it does nothing. Don't expect from him the calm and indifferent attitude of a core redpiller towards red pill truths and do not point fingers at him for not having such attitude. Approach the situation with understanding knowing fully well that people are at different stages of red pill growth; you don't know for sure the level someone is at. Some are still in the rage phase (redpillers should know this) and they will outgrow it with time; other core redpillers passed through this phase (it can happen to anyone regardless of your social status). For some, the red pill hasn't sank deep yet. It is only a matter of time.

Some overcome this phase quickly while some took more time; this is because people are different. Even past experiences play a role. Someone who has been brutally and endlessly played in the past and has been savaged to the utmost by the unforgiving manipulative claws of female nature during his blue pill days will rage more the moment the red pill truths start dawning on him and it will take him time the get out of the rage phase. Allow a person's growth to take its course, just as yours did.

Some are past the rage phase and are newly acquainting themselves with red pill truth, but they still have blue pill expectations from women, especially ethical and moral expectations. This is also a phase common among people who are new to the red pill, especially newbies who haven't taken time to dive deep and ruminate on what they've learnt. Las las, everyone will come to a point where they make peace with reality, abandon certain illusions and stop trying to change what they cannot change.

If you didn't pass through the rage phase, good for you. It doesn't change the fact that it is a phenomenon common with the transition from the blue pill state to the red pill state. To think otherwise is either naivety or dishonesty. If you spent a short time in that phase, good for you. I spent a short time (few days) as a teenager in that phase and I simply moved on. One must realise that the blue pill isn't just a system of lies and delusions, it is also people's lives, devotion and the profund conditioning of the male mind from birth. Usually it is not easy for a bluepiller (even any human) to accept that his life has been devoted to lies and delusions and hence all a waste in a particular aspect, especially when such lies and delusions have left him vulnerable and when he realises he would have done things differently with his life in a particular aspect. If care isn't taken, denial may impede his transition since it is painful to admit how he has wasted an aspect of his one and only life on a lie. I believe we can put ourselves in the shoes of such a person.

It is similar to when some religious people become  convinced FOR SOME REASON that God and the sweet afterlife are all falsehoods. The more one has spent time and invested in a religion, found solace in it and made sacrifices for it, the more disgruntled and vexed he feels when deconverting, especially when you compare him to a teenager who never took religion seriously, but deconverted. I am not saying God and the afterlife are falsehoods, instead I am hoping that those who have been deconverted, changed religion or disentangled themselves from a cult can further relate with my example.

Fortunately, the rage phase and blue pill expectations do not last. Time and more red pill will annihilate such from one's system.


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[4] (b) Obviously, the fact that a discussion is dominating this thread at a particular time or has gone on for a while doesn't mean the themes of the discussion is what the red pill is ALL about. It doesn't mean the speaker (or speakers) are imposing anything on anyone or infusing the themes of their discussions into the red pill. Allow a discussion to run its course, just like other discussions; get out of your feelings. For example, a while back, someone was talking about his observation and experiences in the escapades of married women and a lot of people were following. Instead of certain people to pick out the red pill lessons from the account or ignore, they played the moral champions, made an issue out of nothing, misconstrued the message and wrongly claimed the speaker was encouraging sex with married women and making it what the red pill is about. This was clearly not the case; even after many clarification from the speaker, the moral champions kept savaging him. They started morally condemning him as though their condemnation will make them feel better or change the reality of what he is speaking about, one of the many things this thread was created for.

It was an eyesore to see people bringing morality into an area that doesn't entail morality; some didn't even really understand or know about the amoral nature of the red pill. Also, the fact that others here are silent on someone's moral choices doesn't mean that they endorse them, instead they simply realise that all sorts of moral compasses are here and morality is not to be made an issue HERE.

Another example is the misrepresentation of Ubunja's observation on bad boys and lowlives. His observation and take were misconstrued as endorsement and encouragement of being a lowlife. Also, they were misconstrued as preachments on how being a lowlife makes you redpilled. Rather than note the reality he was trying to unveil, emotions and the need to score cheap points ran amok. These errors were due to emotions and running off on impression that no one gave. Simple logic and due diligence would have corrected these. There many more examples (I picked these because they are recent), but my point is clear. Someone giving an unflattering opinion on marriage doesn't mean they are saying being a redpiller means you will shun marriage. It also doesn't mean that they are imposing being single for life on you. Even some few redpillers have been guilty of this (usually when it deals with the amoral nature of the red pill). This mistake will be likely made in future, so take note. Let's be logical.

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[3] In this thread we focus on the substance and truthfulness of ideas and opinions. As long as a person (or group) hasn't violated the rules or defied the purpose of this thread or played mischievous games, never should you deviate from his arguments and opinion and make presumptions or imply things about his personality or life. It is silly and childish, especially when you have never met this person in real life. It is emotional, feminine and not what we do here. Highest, you state your different opinion or take, everyone agrees to disagree and move on; it is that simple. If you cannot focus on the opinion or take, you can ignore. No need to start implying that people are miserable lots, losers, inadequate or disgruntled folks who haven't go out there, had success in certain aspects and seen things... all for simply thinking differently; it serves no productive purpose here and it scores no point here. Going by a faulty logic here, I could call that "hyperventilation" or whine.

Finally, conflating a feminist generalisation with someone's generalisation for the purpose of lending credence to the falsehood of the latter is a cheap emotional technique that detractors, especially women, use when trying to demolish red pill facts that apply to all women. For this same reason they even try to paint redpillers and mgtow as the male equivalent of radical feminists. It is not a new thing. IF that is what was being done here (I COULD BE WRONG), no one should try such again.

[4] (a) If you think marriage is wonderful and the getting married is fine, that's okay. If you think marriage is slavery and that getting married is an enslavement of self, that's okay. Everyone has the liberty to hold and express their views here as long as they are not blue pill nonsense (since this is a red pill thread. There are hundreds of threads for you if you find what is said here disappointing and unacceptable; you can even start your own thread. No need for anyone to force what is not. There is no gold medal or money given to anyone who scores a point).

If you express your flattering opinion about marriage, I am sure no one will think you are trying to impose marriage on others or imply that getting married makes you a redpiller. Why should it be different when a set of people, who haven't violated the purpose and rules of this thread, hold and simply express unflattering views about marriage? It is not logical and it just doesn't make sense. Already, we know that perspectives and background differ and it is okay for people to hold different views and opinions and it is understandable that such happens, why then should anyone be ruffled and worked up over anti-marriage opinions to the extent of making silly assumptions, logical lapses and underhanded personal attack? Even among redpillers, opinions differ since not everyone is at the same level of red pill awareness.

Pro-marriage folks will always express favourable attitude towards marriage while those that are against marriage will express critical attitude towards it. Deal with this, and I say this to both sides. Engage in productive discussions with utmost civility. Highest, agree to disagree. No need for name calling, silly assumptions about people's personality/lives, running off on impression that no one ever gave you, and underhanded personal attack. Stop it! As I said, being open-minded enough to be able understand that people's opinions, lifestyles, interests and aspirations are different from yours without getting worked up about a different opinion is a hallmark of maturity. Grow up!

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I have been viewing this thread for some days and I didn't have time and space to contribute significantly as I would have wanted. I hope it is not too late. I had to read again what had recently transpired to be sure that I didn't miss anything in my assessment. I wouldn't reply all posts and go into details on where the POSTERS went amiss in logic, but here are a some things that are worthwhile:

[1] The fact that some people are discussing a red pill topic, no matter how basic, that all redpillers should know doesn't mean they are "hyperventilating" or whining. The fact that a certain discussion is dominating this thread (just like past topics) at the moment doesn't mean that people are "hyperventilating" or whining. Harbouring such notion is to make a logical lapse and run off at a tangent on an impression no one gave you; by this logic, many takes, even the series of responses I saw, could be termed as "hyperventilation," disgruntled rants, and whining. I believe this is simple to grasp. Let's stop reading unnecessary meaning into people's post out of emotions; I believe grown men should act as grown men.

As long as a topic is a red pill topic and the rules of this thread are not defied, people can freely discuss them and comment on them as much as they like, however long. This will always happen, and it's not bad. If you don't like the fact that a topic is being discussed or you feel another thing ought to be discussed, nothing stops you from ignoring the discussion until what you like comes up. If that is not enough, nothing stops you from starting your discussion; you can even start a discussion by asking a question. If any of these cannot be done, resist the urge to make silly assumptions about the posters and ignore or visit other threads in the meantime. This thread doesn't revolve around any particular person and his wishes.

Even if you felt you noticed a disgruntled fellow partaking in the discussion, do not make the mistake of seeing his view as reflective of the views of others partaking in the discussion. It makes no sense.

[2] It must be had in mind that this group isn't centred around a particular set of redpillers: some are new here to learn, some are old members, some have left, some are yet to come and some don't actively and consistently follow this thread (they leave for sometime and come back later only to join the prevailing discussions without knowing what had transpired in their absence and the lessons therein). For this reason it can sometimes be helpful if people are bringing up issues that others are familiar with (for whatever reasons) and discussing them. Sometimes, the discussions may inadvertently shed a new light and give a new touch that weren't given in previous discussions; such helps some people. Sometimes, a newbie who just joined and hasn't fully read up on red pill concepts might be showered with a discussion that provides depth and understanding to a concept he has an inkling about and give him room to ask questions whose answer will consolidate his knowledge. Even if this isn't the case, redpillers still have the liberty to discuss any red pill topic as long as the rules and purpose of this thread are not violated. I even know some people who just joined the thread recently. Chill!

Allow discussions to run their course.

Having such discussions and even expressing a critical attitude towards marriage doesn't mean that people are saying women are the problem. It doesn't mean they are disgruntled, unsuccessful, haven't gone out there or anything alleged and assumed here.


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Happy international men's day to all men.

As expected, I didn't see any proof or solid argument for the existence of the Christian god.

Here is my assessment of the falsehood of abrahamic gods.

https://www.nairaland.com/5319206/sincere-adherents-abrahamic-religions-why

CaveAdullam:
DAY 323, REDPILL 2021

1. Men, please date your work! I repeat, date your work! Date it, fvck it and improve it!

2. Because your work and its fruits is the only thing that will be there when she says "I can no longer do!"

It is this same mangina and his likes that will still scream "relationship/marriage is not by force, when your partner is tired and no longer interested, they have a choice of their own and can make decisions as matured adults".

3. Abandon your work and chase women; women will abandon you and chase men that have works.

4. There's no comparison between your work and her, it is your purpose and ambition first and foremost. You don't share time equally for her and your work. If she's not comfortable, let her go. That same woman you want to abandon your work for and schedule dates, trips, trysts, vacation for is that same woman that will tell you "can't you see your mate?" when you no longer have work to eat good fruits from.

5. You come first, then your work and purpose. She comes last! If she refuses her last position that's her own cup of tea. You can't be running helter skelter for a woman who don't even understand female anatomy not to talk of understanding how a relationship works.

6. What they want is fun and fvck. After work, during relaxation, you blast them the lamba! Then after, fall back to work!

Authority: focus on your work!

A succinct and sagacious post. Tuale!

What pains me is the pathological love this clueless manager has for Fred. Oh lawd!

Does Fred have his nude pics that he can't bench Fred?

solidmyk:
Unfortunately new members ain't allowed to be added anymore

Iyaebe = Rozcol = Rozz = Zzor

Don't mind her.

MJBOLT:

he's more deadly, he's a male feminist

Solomon Buchi matter don tire me. His case is not normal. Probably, a simp demon from the innermost circles of hell inhabits the brother.

solidmyk:
Aiit

Thank you very much. I was added.

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solidmyk:
Baba, but one of your account still belongs as a member or you never bothered to retrieve it?

The one whose profile picture is the ace of spade. I couldn't retrieve it. I have a new account now.

Iamdbull:
King Martinez what's good?

My G, my former phone was stolen and I couldn't retrieve my former WhatsApp account. I haven't been of the S*rllipd*r eht group since 5th of October. Can you help add me to the group? Are you still in the group?

Iamdbull:
Thank you

How far?

Reminderz:
na the toxicity of Martinez dey make people talk say marriage na useless sometingss for this thread... the guy with his toxic mentality.. the guy go dey talk say all women are hoes.. all women cheats go mgtwo.. women are useless, relationship are useless ... like godammit.. what did the guy really face in his childhood... this is totally absurd... this thread is making men considering marriage foolish... go baby mama, go surrogacy... like that's the ultimate goal... this is so damaging to the society in the long run... very crAZY stuffs... na here I hear say marriage is very useless omoooo tinz dey happen oo.. so many families are living fine till date... no be when one thing happen, news go carry that one thing and people go start to dey generalize.. what about those where it's working for them mehn which kind mentality and speech you expect from person wey nor even like pikin or wan born pikin sef?? ahh I pray for the guy omoo

how many men nowadays really look at the red flags when choosing women? nor be love blind their eyes and their bluepill mindset into choosing wrong wife's.. how one person choice take relate to everybody.. ahh omoo... mehn.. this is only being exaggerated with the use of social media and the likes..

KiNg0G! Welcome back, nwannem. You see, I have never demanded of or imposed it on anyone to go mgtow and not to marry. You see, I have never said that being redpilled means that you will shun marriage or die single and childless like I have voluntarily chosen to. That is MY path. People must note, as I do, that not everyone shares your interest and aspirations. What is a holy grail to you (eg. family, building up a next generation) is inessential to others. Being open-minded to be able to understand this is a hallmark of maturity.

The fact that I am giving my personal take based on my understanding of the red pill from my journey in life doesn't mean anyone should follow my path. If I see no reason to get married after weighing the pros and cons while considering myself or I think it that it isn't worth the stress when red pill is applied, why should anyone care? Do these mean I am stopping anyone from getting married or implying that they are lesser redpillers for getting married? Have you seen me vilify or belittle those who want marriage?