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luminouz:
She also has the biggest booty in Africa. I don't want to imagine if she is faithful to him or not. It is what it is

It is what it is, bro.

Make I go rest, sleep has come to take me.

^^^^

• POST TWO

Tonnyray:
Never bother yourself about what any woman is attracted to.
Bother yourself about what you want in and out of life.
Be successful, never you be a lowlife.

Selah.

To be honest, this was a subtle and emotional retaliation to Ubuñja's post above yours. I won't be surprised if you deny this. I don't know what you have against Ubuñja, but this was needless and emotional. It is surprising how a logical man can yield to his feelings to this extent. Never did that man say that anyone should be a lowlife; he has never said or supported such here and he has stated it clearly in the past, repeatedly. Prove me wrong. Never did he say anyone shouldn't be successful or bother themselves with what they want in life. All he simply did was pose a question that would open the floor for an important red pill discussion, nothing more or less. All sorts of topics and discussions have been taking place here. It is highly irrational to think that talking about certain aspects of lowlives and broke men means that one is encouraging others to be lowlives or broke men or one is making being a lowlife or broke man part of the red pill and what it means to be a redpiller.

Ubuñja never said in that post that you should make your life all about female attraction. Take your feelings out and let red pill issues be discussed.

I believe you can do better than this. To what end is this? What point is being scored here? What do you have to prove? Aside the intention and emotions behind your post, your post is a sound advice.

• POST THREE

Tonnyray:
Understand that you have a legacy to bequeath to a coming generation.
Understand that you have an obligation to be part of the solution to the ills that bedevil our society not part of the problem.
Understand that you have a place in the collective destiny of our society.
Keep all of this in mind as you build yourself up.
Keep all of this in mind as you raise children that can proudly walk in your footsteps.
To hell with what confused "successful" women want.
Be successful.
Build your legacy.

This was your follow-up to POST TWO. To be honest, this was also part of your reply to Ubuñja. Only you can tell the emotions or attitude that were involved in making this post. Don't get me wrong, this is not a bad post. While this might make people feel noble or good about themselves or make you look dignified, it was irrelevant and pointless in the context in which it was created. This doesn't prove anything relevant and it is a moral and virtuous preachment at best. Never did Ubuñja say what "successful" women want should be important to anyone. There is nothing bad in simply asking a question and trying to open the floor for a red pill discussion

In fact, just to add, the lifestyles of people after becoming red pill aware differ. Some don't marry, some go for "babymamaism", some go monk and focus on other things, some remain single and "play" once in a while till they die and some engage in other things. It is not incumbent on redpillers to bother about upcoming generations or bother about events that take place after their death neither is it incumbent on redpillers to have children; however if anyone wants to do otherwise, it is left to them and there is nothing wrong in that. Also, the purpose of each person's life is the purpose they give it; human life is inherently meaningless except we give it a purpose. A redpiller's life's purpose, lifestyle, and values might differ from those of another redpiller.

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I didn't do this for the purpose of argument. In fact I am not expecting a response, neither am I expecting to go beyond my post. I will repeat that there is nothing personal in my post. However, if there is room to improve on an aspect, the humility to recognise the need to improve and improve are good things. Finally, it is good that one thinks for himself and not follow the crowd. Merely not following the crowd doesn't mean one is right on his stand or that one shouldn't be open-minded even to ideas from those they don't think highly of. Even a blue pill man or simp who comes to this group and remains persistent in his way and ideas is an outlier, but that doesn't mean he is right in what he is doing. A Muslim in a Christian gathering wouldn't follow the "crowd" in that gathering and he would be an outlier; that doesn't mean his beliefs and lifestyle are right or better. There is nothing to prove here. Good day.

^{NB: this is not personal. I felt I had to address some things. I am sure you know like I do that disagreements or constructive criticisms do not mean bad intentions or hostility. I might go amiss in my assessment of things, but nothing wrong in giving a honest take. I have been writing this since afternoon and it was the last thing I wanted to post before coming back on Friday to make any significant contribution.}

• POST ONE

Tonnyray:
Tell our new boyfriend to turn abusive too because it's not a good thing to show love, care and affection. Be a real dragon cos no woman wants a tame dragon.

May GOD help us all.

If we are to be honest with ourselves, this sarcasm was a subtle mockery and jab at Ubuñja's post [url=HERE]https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/876#107045259[/url] Ubuñja simply made his post in response to a question ask by lightwáy. You see, Ubuñja didn't and has never said you should be abusive towards your girlfriend; hardly will you see a redpiller here that supports being abusive or toxic to your gf. Such misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what was being conveyed by Ubunja probably came a place of emotions and needless antagonistic attitude; could this be as a result of a past clash? Only you can tell. You have even done this to me in the past.

Lightwày simply observed a phenomenon and asked Ubuñja if there was an explanation to it. Ubuñja simply cast light on the phenomenon, nothing more or less. In as much as I and others agree with some or all you ended up saying, it doesn't change the fact that the phenomenon of girls going back to their supposed abusive ex-boyfriends is a thing and will always be a thing. All Ubuñja did was reveal the red pill on this reality, one of the purposes why this thread was created. He made his contribution on how the rabbit hole goes, and that doesn't mean that he endorsed being abusive or toxic. You don't need to be a bad boy or "a dragon" to know, believe, or suspect that women are attracted to bad boys or "dragons." This subtle jab was needless and it would have been better if you towed the discussion route and presented your disapproval.

One day we will realize we are not all cut from the same cloth.
You are who you are. Do not let anyone deceive you into assuming an identity contrary to your person.

Who ever said you MUST be who you are not? I observe that when you let your emotions or whatever you have against someone get the better of you, you tend to misrepresent a lot and speak irrationally, and you remain stubborn when doing this (especially when called out). While persisting in this, you think it is okay since "you are not among the crowd." You have done this to me before. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean you are not capable of being logical (as you have shown many times) or you don't know one or two things about the red pill. It also doesn't mean others can't learn from you. However, is there not a way you can do better in this aspect? Isn't it high time you improve on this?

Forget the stupid image being painted here of the bad ass, arrogant, selfish, amoral bad boy who doesn't give a fvck about anything or anyone but himself and is having the time of his life fvcking without commitment or responsibility. It is a mentality as weak as weak can be. Not only is it a nonsensical mirage, practically every one advocating such fall far short when you get to meet them in person (not that they ever will allow you to anyway). Oga learn to be your person. If you are nice and caring by nature nothing do you.

You even have preconceived notion about redpillers here and yet again you have showed your failure to do your due diligence and aptly comprehend. More misrepresentation. No one, or most redpillers here at least, claims or boasts to be a bad ass, arrogant, selfish, and amoral bad boy neither has such image been advocated as the norm. The highest you have are people who will outrightly declare that they don't condone simping even in their personal lives, and you don't have to be like the bad boys to stop simping.

Someone talking about the reality of the bad boys (a red pill topic) doesn't necessarily mean the someone is painting himself to be a bad boy or is advocating the bad boy lifestyle as the norm that all must follow. Get your feelings and antagonistic attitude out of this. Also, people here discussing the reality of the bad boys doesn't mean they are making being a bad boy what the redpill is all about. The redpillers you see here are people who know to varying degrees how the rabbit hole goes and they have simply gathered to iron it all out and exchange perspective to help themselves and other readers understand and grow futher in the red pill. What you choose to think of them and your preconceived notions about them are up to you and it is best you leave your emotions out of it; you don't even know them in person. This was the same way the act of someone simply discussing about married women and that of people encouraging him to share what he has to say were emotionally misconstrued as an endorsement of having sex with married women to all, and it was also misconstrued as attempts of people trying to make sex with married women what the red pill here is about. This was the same way people erroneously saw the acknowledgement of the amoral nature of the red pill as a declaration, support and recommendation of immorality and wicked deeds.

However we think of it or how we choose to live our lives, the reality of the bad boys will remain what it is, same as other aspects of reality. Any negative view you have of any redpiller here and whatever antagonistic attitude you have towards anyone here for whatever reason should be done way with for the better. Funny enough, the people you find distasteful, or nurse antagonistic attitude towards, don't feel the same way towards you. They may disagree with your actions/idea or criticise your ideas/action, but it doesn't mean they have anything against your person. Also, if called out or criticised, have the humility to admit fault and take correction if need be. There is no competition on who sabi pass, on who is the toughest or on who is right; everyone here has nothing to prove to anyone. All that matters is understanding how the rabbit hole goes and our combine efforts towards achieving this.

Oga learn to be your person. If you are nice and caring by nature nothing do you.

This can be very misleading and potentially disastrous. Be yourself? If one is a simp and Mr. Nice Guy, should this be applied as well? Come on! With the red pill, one would see that certain things about themselves and the way they usually do things would yield bad results and take them nowhere in their dealings with women (whether for sex, short- or long-term relationships, or in other dealings like workplace interaction) hence the need to modify or discard these... for the better. You can't apply the red pill and remain the same person you were before the red pill. Obviously, this is not to say that one should be immoral or wickedly brute in anyway. One can still be moral and be redpilled, but it doesn't change the reality of the red pill. Whether we like it or not, being Mr Nice Guy will take you nowhere with women.

As far as the redpilled is concerned, rather than trying to be yourself, I would say you should try to figure out what works and abide by them even if it means making necessary changes. Such changes could be as simple as not simping, mastering your sexual urges and maintaining frame.

As a man you have ONLY ONE JOB as it relates to relationship dynamics: Find that girl that matches your energy. Find that woman that brings out the best in you. Find that woman that you do not need to put up an "Alpha" act for. Find that woman that gives you palpable peace, not only in your mind but in both mind and spirit.
The mindset that ALL women are messed up and hoes and liabilities blah blah blah is a scam.
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SMH. Women are hòes and cheats, but not all men are aware of this. We can agree to disagree here. Whether you like it or not, you will have to be alpha to the woman you are involved with if you want the best results and outcomes, except alpha means something else to you. No matter how you are convinced that you are finding the so called right woman that matches your energy or brings the best out of you or whatever, it wouldn't change the fact that female nature is universal and will always take its course. This is not to say that you must force yourself on any female that doesn't want you; no one here has ever said that (not among the same people who preach the abundance mindset). The same blue pill lapses that will yield bad results with females you consider "wrong women" are the same that would yield bad results with the women you consider "right women."  Also, repeating our red pill tenets doesn't belittle us in anyway or equate us with deluded and disingenuous feminists.

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Finally, don't reduce the red pill to just common sense and simple logic. The red pill is more that; common sense and simple logic are not sufficient in telling anyone how the rabbit hole goes. One can only ride on common sense and simple logic to an extent, but the ignorance will still be there. What one encounters in the red pill might be counterintuitive, shocking or surprising to the sense, morality and reasoning of the conventional mind, but we must take it for what it is.

Tonnyray:
Is this meant to lure me into the fray? Cos I'm actually comfortable taking a temporary backseat watching insecurities play out as usual. Secondly, is the question a general one or for me as a person cos as you obviously have observed I got zero issues being a comfortable outlier.

It was a simple question and he stated why he needed your answer. Give simple questions their answers without making unnecessary assumptions. If you then notice in his reply that he is trying to play games you don't like, freely withdraw and ignore.

posty56:
my kind of guy , make I hear say I whole money I date any poor girl I dey mad ni?

He is deliberately lifting right from the female play book. Funny enough, a lot of females are criticising him for the tweet.

dhiqson:
Martinez!!! you seriously need to stop!!!!!!!!
You've been spitting atarodo, Ghana reddish pills and keeping up is just...
Few pages ago, you were talking on the risk involved for aspiring patriarchs such as us
Now, be like you just bring bazooka come small fight. I mean your example with that prophetess was so apt

[/i] runs outta thread into the blue pilled world[i]
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. Shit it's a mess out there. I'm back

Lol. Better stay here. I was free from work yesterday. I had much time on my hand so I decided to engage and make contributions here as much as I could. I am still awake, sleep no gree come. If I have the energy, I will still write some more.

Smartb0y:
hahaha.
I yam speechless.

It is what it is. Some people might say that I am implying that only rich people get married, but this isn't the case. Women do marry men that are not really there financially because these men are the best they could do at the time of marriage, especially when they wanted to finally settle down. Being a woman's best available financial option doesn't mean that you are wealthy. Even if every rich man marries ten wives, they won't exhaust all the women who want to be their wives. The remaining women would either settle for less or stay single.

^^^
NeroStealth01, you nailed it. Nothing more to say.

Smartb0y:
women!!!

Indeed. Marriage is usually all about financial security and safety for women. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction or your red pill knowledge. It is nothing to do with love. You can be a pathetic simp and a woman will still pick you for marriage as long as you are her best financial option. You can be sexually unattractive (you could even look deformed or be a monkey), poor in bed or whatever and she will still pick you for marriage as long as you are her best financial deal. Being picked as a lottery ticket or retirement plan doesn't mean you will be spared the games and wiles of female nature.

This rich guy called Grand P and this woman called Eudoxie Yao dated and married for over two years. Though they shortly broke up this year over him messing with another woman, they have reunited. It is what it is.

luminouz:
Nothing to add, you nailed it all

Here is a Christian female called Shilekunola Moronke Naomi Oluwaseyi, a church minister and prophetess in the Christian Church. Her religion didn't stop her from marrying the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi who is a traditional worshipper otherwise called Igbakeji Orisa (meaning second in command to the gods). Though the bible said do not be equally yoked with unbelievers, but hypergamy doesn't care. She went through all the traditional and pagan rites of marriage. Naomi is the Founder/President of En-Heralds - an interdenominal ministry based in Akure, Ondo state. She started public ministry at the age of eighteen and became a full time evangelist in October 2011.

Look at the picture below, and even see her rationalisation. As long as you are a high value man, women will see you as marriage quality and you are like a lucky lottery ticket to them. Women won't have any excuses when it comes to picking you for marriage; they will make excuses as to why they want to marry you and rationalise that decision. As I said, leave it to women to rationalise and justify their choices and decisions. Regardless of what any woman says, female nature will always take its course.

CsRockefeller:
I've pulled myself out of the relationship. I feel used sincerely.

To buttress and emphasize CAPSLOCKED's point on such excuses, have it mind that a female, for whatever reason, might tell you that she cannot date/marry you due to religious differences, tribal differences, parental disapproval, negative utterances of her pastor or any other yen yen yen. When you hear this, just smile inwardly because her words are not to be taken seriously. All you need do to see things clearly is ask what excuses she would give you if you were Otedola, Elon Musk, Bill Gate, Ned Nwoko or any other money bag. Do you seriously think any excuses will come up? NO! Will tribal or religious differences or divergence personal beliefs matter to her? NO! Even If her parents disapprove (which they will not ), she will defy them. Even if pastor saw a "vision" and adviced her against it (which pastorpreneurs will never do), she would still go with you.

Even if you were a native doctor in addition to being the best money bag she could find, she will still date and marry you even if she is a Christian. Even if you are a brutal drug lord/yahoo boy and you are her best financial options, she will still marry you as long as she is convinced you will provide for her and keep her safe long-term; as long as will cash out in anyway or for any period of time, no problem for her. Leave it women to know how to rationalise their choices and decisions. Hypergamy doesn't care about race, religion, tradition, culture, morality, nationality or political beliefs. Just be her best financial option and let no higher bidder come along, you will get her hand in MARRIAGE even if you are the most pathetic simp. MARRIAGE to women is a matter of financial security; it doesn't care where this security comes from (whether it comes from a redpiller or simp, an alpha or a beta, a moral champion or the morally depraved); this is reality.

Even if you are a redpiller whose red pill awareness is through the roof but you are struggling financial at the moment, a rich simp will easily snatch your girl for MARRIAGE... this is a red pill fact. The girl will readily leave you for that rich simp (though the riches of the simp won't save him from female nature and its games). Highest, after marriage and settling in well, she can still come back to you for sex if you are readily available as one of the few men she knows that can lay the pipe well. In some instances, not all, she will use you to play "Alpha fùcks, beta bùcks" on the husband and make him a victim of paternity fraud with your seed.

So, never mind the excuses. Also, if you want to have value in the MARRIAGE market, you must have the paper. To any woman you want to marry, know that you are the best option to her, one she has selected. As for the excuses, when a woman is give you such excuses, it usually because:
(1) she doesn't consider you (though it won't stop her from enjoying or milking any benefits from you),
(2) she is still testing her options,
(3) a higher bidder came along and she needs an excuse to monkey branch. Usually, her parents, especially her mother, will support and connive with her in this.
(4) she still wants to explore her youthful hoe phase as a single lady and you are not valuable enough in her eyes for her burden herself with serious plans of marriage. Maybe you can check in when she is used up or about to hit the wall.
(5) others can add their reasons.

Thanks!

mathkid:

Ah! Ferguson? You of all people! Who the hell charmed this club out of their senses? This is supernatural. This is spiritual. Ahhh!

Herbsworks:
If you don’t want to stumble in life, always look life through the eyes of the redpill

When we discover the red pill and choose to grow in red pill knowledge and apply/make it work to your benefit, you will later see reasons to thank "the gods" for discovering the red pill. I have heard Christian redpillers say "thank God for the red pill o."

fattprince:
Funny, as I was typing this I felt you will feel it's a rebuttal but sorry there just wasn't a better way I could write it to tell you that you really made me understand the matter. Like seriously it wasn't a rebuttal in any form. I've been hearing TRP is amoral but I just couldn't rationalise it but with your post I get it to some extent now. That's just all I'm trying to let you know. And nope I wasn't being sarcastic.

Okay. No problem. We move.

heartofcity12:
Oh well that’s also a possibility. Just so funny

Well, simping is a disorder... who knows?

#sarcasm

heartofcity12:
Men have been simping for ages. See this

I thought that painter was schizophrenic and had mental health problems. I might be wrong, but I think I saw it some years back. Nevertheless, men have been simping for ages.

fattprince:
Now I understand what amoral means. That means a thief that doesn't let people manipulate him doesn't make him less of a redpiller since they are two distinct factors. I get it. It's like me a Christian and a redpiller feeling a guy that doesn't want to get married but want to be an irresponsible baby daddy could still be a redpiller. Like the storey someone told several months ago about his friend dad that doesn't take any responsibilities at home but spend on women let's assume he doesn't spend and even play the game that after fvcking them he still collects from them both in cash and kind. Then he is definitely redpilled.
Thanks for the insight. I totally get it now.

I will pretend like I didn't read what you typed. No rational rebuttal was said here; all I saw was a sneaky appeal to morality and my sense of decency.
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All I can say is, get your feelings out of this. What makes one a redpiller is different from what makes one a morally upright individual. Don't get me wrong, I am not giving a free pass to immoral acts. Red pill has nothing to do with morality. Red pill is not meant to be a sweet and acceptable thing in its entirety; it is not a must that what you see digests well to your senses and personal ethics. It is not supposed to make you feel good about yourself. Take it for what it is. Be open-minded. You might not agree with someone's morality, but it doesn't disqualify him as a redpiller in the same way that someone with a different religious stance isn't less of a redpiller.

Infact, the word "amoral" doesn't mean "immoral", neither does it mean "moral". It simply means neither moral nor immoral. You can be moral and be redpilled; you can be immoral and be redpilled. Even I that have moral codes I live by can take my feelings out of this and understand this; what is stopping you?

How would you like it if someone integrated his religion (or atheism) and moral values into the red pill and tried to make it a standard for everyone?

Jesu!

ma373733:
Everybody is right sha

Even the greatest fool doesn't agree he's foolish. No be lie sha

Proverbs: 13. 10. Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
Nobody knows all however we are all good in different aspects of TRP there are some aspects or topics of TRP skepticus might be good at and there are some aspect capslock is good and there are some aspect Martinez is good in there are some aspect even kingOG is surprisingly good at there are some DEMZEE is good at there are some undercover is good at especially the Machiavellian aspect what about ubunja he's quite good at gaming caveadullam my oga is also drops bombshell at some topics

Why are some of us better in some topic than the other? to me it's because of our upbringing, environment, experience and knowledge we have from books and all that .
Sometimes being in a herd is or pride or pack is Better .in

Sometimes group thinking is the way to go . however a well aligned and articulated opinions with facts and figures is welcomed here.

I like this. I have said this over and over in the past. Iron sharpens iron. This why we all gather to have discussions and share perspectives so as to come to a better conclusion. Of course, at times, we may not get it right or we may have logical lapses, but it doesn't take anything away from us since all round perfection is impossible. We grow in the red pill by helping others by sharing, contributing and having honest and mature discussions.

ma373733:
If you think for yourself

Fvvck off this thread!

Let the guy be. Person wey disagree with you, disagree with you. Finally, whether he is right or wrong, there is nothing wrong in thinking for himself. It is a journey, we all get there with time with time.

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Relative to the red pill, were there things he could have done better? Yep! Obviously.



Cc Zabiboy

Zabiboy:
Someone on this thread posted that story ( as his story). And people hailed him for looking out for his best interest.. And some of us cautioned him that the best thing to do was to use a condom/protection if he wasnt ready to have a child... And the next thing i saw was "Redpill is amoral" everywhere on the thread... So i'm asking is there anything in that story that indicates redpill being amoral? Cz it seems many people just relate anything to "redpill is amoral"

Oh, I get your point. I remember that story.

One of the whorès the guy (DarkCeasar) usually sleeps with got pregnant even when that wasn't the plan, as mutually agreed. He was surprised to hear the girl telling him of the pregnancy and he stated it clearly again that he was not ready to be a father. He then told the girl to shift it to her serious boyfriend, and he came to share screenshots of the chat and declared that a simp is about to father his child.

Now, people came with their moral cap to condemn the guy for wickedly making another man a victim of paternity fraud. Some even went as far as claiming that such moral shortcoming disqualified him as a redpiller. One (who earlier claimed that he enjoyed fûcking girls while having them call their boyfriends) even insinuated that the guy should consider the serious boyfriend. Some redpillers then jumped in and said that such act (pining his baby on another man) might be immoral, but it doesn't disqualify him from being a redpiller since the red pill is amoral. Though I think making another man a victim of paternity fraud in this way is morally reprehensible (I wouldn't do that to anyone), but such doesn't make one less of a redpiller.

That was where the saying of "red pill is amoral" came in. Redpillers even pointed out that the phenomenon of "alpha fùcks, beta bùcks" was at play here, with the intention of the guy this time around. The people who said "red pill is amoral" were not necessarily saying his act was okay and acceptable.

@Zabiboy

Clarify for me or should I just give my answer right away?

Zabiboy:
As in ehnn
All this stress just because of something no man can control...
I'll pass
Who cares what they do with their lives...

Though the guy's method is legit, but I too can't stress myself over "women matter." After swallowing the red pill, there are things I don't bother to control or stress myself over.

Zabiboy:
one question..
Someone having unprotected sex with a wh0re, getting her pregnant and then walking away from the child saying he's not ready yet and still comes here to complain of how men nowadays are weak/beta/simps ( of which one of the reason for this is the absence of fathers in children's life) Does this indicate "Redpill is amoral" or Pure Hypocrisy?

I want give you an answer, but just clear one thing so that I don't wrongly assume. What do you mean by 'does it indicate "redpill is amoral?' ?

https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/879#107071154

^{N.B: This post is the continuation of my post from the link above. Let me conclude my write up on the amoral nature of the red pill.}

[4] During red pill discussions, keep your morality out of the discussion in the same way redpillers here keep their religious beliefs out of red pill discussions. Bringing up moral issues and your sacred convictions or pointing to a redpiller's perceived moral shortcomings or depravity are absolutely pointless here; even being a moral champion here is pointless. They show nothing relevant to red pill discuss; some have foolishly even tried to use their moral uprightness and the moral shortcomings of who they are debating with to score worthless points (this exudes ignorance and one succumbing to his emotions). It is what it is; deal with it. However, ignorant folks and emotional ones don't know or can't grasp these. Imagine bringing up moral issues (or religious beliefs) or trying to be a moral champion during mathematical discussions or a Mathematics conference where all that matters are mathematical stuffs. It is the same way you will sound foolish and out of place when you do these and try to point out a redpiller's perceived moral shortcomings in a place where all that matters are knowledgeable of red pill issues and knowing how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Some even find themselves writing feel-good moral preachments... lol. To what end?

As I have said, don't try to integrate your morality (or religion and personal ethics) into the red pill; don't bend the red to suit your personal taste. Instead, make peace with the red pill and let the red pill be the red pill. I understand that red pill and its nature can make one uncomfortable and it may seem hateful and dysfunctional to the modern mind, hence the need for some to "intervene" and bend it how they please. It is what it is.

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I could have written more, but let me stop here. I had to explain this in detail because a lot of people, even some redpillers, have problems separating their morality from the red pill and red pill discussions. It's a problem that usually comes up when people encounter the red pill.

I know some people will read this and still not grasp. I know some people will still think I am supporting immorality or that I am immoral or claiming to be immoral. This is clearly not the case. Actually, I do have my moral compass (it may not be the same as yours) and there are things I find morally reprehensible just like the common man. However, this doesn't stop me from accepting and acknowledging that red pill is amoral, and it doesn't stop me from leaving out morality when discussing red pill issues.

Good day.

Smartb0y:
Martiñez39s,in summary TRP requires one to be open minded in order to grow.

I can honestly say since the day i came across TRP,my life as being stable asf in all ramification.
So i totally get what you mean.

Yes! Be open-minded. Have the humility to learn and inquire from others on aspects you fall short and realise that the journey is a continuous one. There are always new things to learn. Where need be, endeavorur to do your due diligence. Always learn to leave your ego, needless antagonistic attitudes, and feelings out of the red pill growth process. All that matters is learning the red pill and knowing how the rabbit hole goes; however harsh or "unacceptable" we find it, we take it as it is.

Remember, as I have always said, there is no competition here on who sabi pass others. You have nothing to prove to anyone here. There is no king, lords or unquestionable unauthority here; feel free to engage, agree or disagree and be civil and righteous with the manner and aim of your discussion; also learn to take correction. Iron sharpens iron. Avoid senseless power and ego play. Finally, eliminate any preconceived ideas or assumptions you have about the redpillers here (you probably don't know them or have met them in person), follow the evidence and be concerned with veracity of their contribution. I can say many more, but I will stop here.

Thanks.

KiNg0G:
All you do is talk and talk, narrating and over explaining episodes uphon episodes. it makes me wonder how old are you seriously. (don't you have a life outside this redpill thread)

you talk about your personality, what personality do you have on a faceless forum when they are more lenient and knowledgeable men, and none of them have even bragged one day about their personality. (they keep on sharing steady pills and log out.)

you think you are above everyone else, but if they say make them count top redpillers making things happening on this thread with their knowledgeable post and experiences on how to relate with women, you nor even join.

but let them bring discussions about taliban killings, married wife's fûcking and anything that deals about misogynist treatment of this female folks na there we go see you.

i dare anybody to quote me wrong.

Though I am free today, I won't indulge your lies and nonsense that much. The same you who falsely claimed that I am lightway for cunning reasons and twisted things to paint me in a bad light. You keep repeating rubbish and you think everyone will eventually accept them as truth; it's not working.

Those that know your history here and have all your activities at the tip of their fingers see through your crap. Those that have known me for a long time and have seen all my contributions can see through your personal vendetta against me. All this because I was at the forefront of those that opposed you and gave you brutal verbal lashes for all your nonsense and deplorable acts you displayed here. Eyah! Take heart. Good day.

Smartb0y:
TRP is a journey,its better they're wannabees than simps

Being a wannabe is futile and pointless. Why not admit, at least to one's self, that one lacks the knowledge and what it takes? Is it not by admitting these that one then begins his journey? How can a weak man become strong if he cannot admit and accept to himself that he is currently weak? How can one take medicine or see the doctor if they don't realise or acknowledge that they are sick? When someone thinks he is already there and he is among, what growth can that person undertake again? Can that person even take correction without letting ego and emotions interfere?

It is not like there is a hierarchy here or a prize to be won for showing that one sabi pass others. There is no king or contest here; all we had from the beginning are people coming together to discuss and help each other in their red pill. No one's inadequate red pill knowledge is criticised or attacked here, except when one insists on being stupid, constituting nuisance, or playing silly games here. Even if a redpiller or someone comes out and said he mistakenly simped, we don't condemn him or laugh at him. Instead, we usually say "go and simp no more" and we urge the guy to learn and do better next time. This is because no one is perfect. Also, we don't expect everyone we meet to know it all or be well-rounded in red pill issues (these are not crimes), but we except and give room for people to do their due diligence and amass knowledge at their own pace.

It is wrong and disappointing when people will rather delude themselves that they are sound redpillers and refuse to take correction and do their due diligence when it is clear that they are ignorant. How hard is it to simply do one's due diligence? Is due diligence a bad thing? Is it a bad thing to suggest that one does one's due diligence? It seems, to some folks, that asking them to do their due diligence is to question or belittle their knowledge and "redpillness" and pique their egos. Due diligence helps you, it helps this thread and it helps those you are discussing with.

It is better to be a honest newbie than to yield to ego and delude one's self that one is already there and one has what what it takes when one can do one's due diligence and actually get there. These set of people, the deluded wannabes, contribute to giving red pill a bad name, and they are the same people simping big time while thinking they understand game and red pill. At least a honest newbie is humble enough to learn and recognise his limits and need for improvement; such a person can grow.