Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:12am On Jun 03, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Talk like an analyst than saying he failed woefully.
I have pointed out a simple way to identify how ruthless Iheanacho can be but most of you have decided to keep your eyes blind to a simple point.
In the game against South Africa most people criticized Iheanacho, people missed a blatant fact. Iheanancho made some devastating runs that put the South African defence under pressure. However, the passes that would have helped us score where poor. That is not the striker not playing poorly but the midfield not delivering. Watch the runs and the chances would have gotten, will show you Iheanacho's strength.
In the game against Algeria, even the coach told you Iheanacho was the reason we lost but you have chosen to bury your head in a sand of lies to keep the false doctrine of Iheanacho can not operate alone upfront.
In today's game, Nacho dropped deep to help spread the ball, kept the defenders under pressure and also kept pickford under pressure. This gave us more chances to win the ball. Tell us a better option to play to cause such effect. Because, I see no solutions from you. sentiment is written all over this post |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:10am On Jun 03, 2018 |
Mickael2: No offence Sir but you really do not have any point.
I am very very sure that you are part of the 'national team form' committee so I ask again, has Nacho ever performed well as a lone striker in the GWG? The answer, if you are being sincere is a resounding NO. Has Ighalo performed well as a lone striker for us? Way way better than Nacho has ever managed. Against Algeria the midfielders couldn't find any pass for Nacho and you came and gave us a long speech about pressing, utterly useless speech it was no offence. Against South Africa the same thing happened and you came back and blamed the midfield, yet against Cameroon Ighalo barely got 4 good chances and scored, if he wasn't mobile how did the midfielder find him? Baba, it's 00:37, you probably had a hectic day no? thumbs up |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:09am On Jun 03, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Is Ighalo Ronaldo. Your writing empty things here without making any point. I have listed attributes why Iheanacho is the better pick. Heck, today, he offered better movement and touches upfront than Ighalo. Why the hell should Ighalo be the better choice?
I have said it, with more movement up front, the midfield has better options to pick better passes.
Iheanacho has led the line for Guardiola and Guardiola mostly plays with a man upfront and Iheanacho has done well. So I wonder all these when has Iheanacho played well as a long striker upfront.
Mertens shows that build and strength is not the only way to go with a striker upfront.
How that equates to Iheanacho being Mertens beats my imagination. oga this your mertena talk here is laughable, maybe we can also put simmy in the wing, juventus did thesame for there big man mandzukic, then we can mikel in the defence to start our game from defense...Pep did it with alonso. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:06am On Jun 03, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Dres Mertens was a winger most of his career but Sarri was able to fashion out one of the most devastating forwards in the game today by tinkering with his set-up and giving the small winger a chance upfront. Mertens turned out a revelation banging over 40 goals in over 50 games.
Caging minds with respect to tactics is long over. Attributes is the key. are we napoli?? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 8:02am On Jun 03, 2018 |
Mickael2:
I just dey here dey check out some very very very funny analysis.
First of all we both saw it since 2017 that Onazi is gone, after this match even Sir Kog45 no fit defend am again. but trust them sha.
Then again, everybody is hailing our second half performance, but bar Iwobi's goal which other chance(notable or not) did we create? England were winning, they didn't need to push yet in that second half they still created the better chances after we scored and for God's sake this is England, you know the same England that we have been saying we will wipe the floor with? yes that sane England and we barely created 3 chances of note and people are still making reference to the Argentina friendly when we have been so poor recently.
Our main problem now is Mikel. naturally he doesn't have enough energy to function as an AMF self, but to make matters worse the Chinese league has been on for a while, I doubt he has had enough time to rest since he started all his team's recent matches, that's like 10 games at least in the last few weeks and yet we all know that without Mikel our team is...well Panama wearing a fanciful green jersey and the end point is that we will be destroyed. Ndidi is not yet training with the full squad, I don't know when he will get match fit but let's just watch. The main problem is that the Chinese league's calendar has affected Mikel and it will affect our team, that AMF role will be too stressful for him now and that's when we will see just how good our team is.
coming down to the manager, I'd bet thousands that Onazi would still start our matches, in fact make that a few hundred thousands. The coach is just a man manager, it works for Zidane because he has a lot of top quality players but when your forward players are either wingbacks in the clubs or they have a permanent quarter on the bench of a midtable team then being just a manager isn't going to cut it.
Finally to address those calling for Ogu to becoming a starter, you don't change your midfield most especially like that. No matter how impressive Saul is in training and even friendlies now and even if Iniesta starts playing like an old lady he will still start, that's one area of the pitch where you don't just change players because they come in as subs and perform well. Ogu may not even make it to Russia and I won't be surprised I mean Kayode was left at home for a Lokosa who had no chance whatsoever. I mean based on what Ighalo did today wouldn't Lokosa at least be a better choice? in fact I have tire now mikel don't have energy to play AM, where will he play, will his energy be enough to play DM. stop making excuse for him, why didnt you say moses was tired too. The truth is football is a team sport, you need somepeople to rise to the occasion when others are underperforming, iwobi proved to us he should be starting and mikel needs him around but if we go about judging players after each match then iwobi should have been dropped after Poland and serbia game because he was very poor. Today i see people praising Etebo and now should be in the plane ahead of Onazi, this same people were complaining and predicting that he will be dropped. make una take I'm easy on una analysis |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:51am On Jun 03, 2018 |
EEGA: So, against Croatia you will start Shehu? We hardly learn from our mistakes.African football is not WC.If not Vicmo's selfishness would have earned him a goal today.
Any full back that doesn't attack subjects the team to pressure. Nigeria fans all expect there player to be 100% always. moses this moses that, no Nigeria player minus Uzoho and iwobi played well in the first half. how many moves did ali get to do all match, even maradona had a bad game against Germany in the final 1990. this guys are human, the fact that Bale came in and play better than ronaldo in the final don't make him better. Thank God Rohr is not a Nairalander |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:46am On Jun 03, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: The coaching crew should get serious and make the right set-up for the team. Nacho should lead the line. He offers more bite, mobility, finishing ability, shooting from range and also has the creativity to drop deep to assist the midfield. It is a no-brainer he should be a starter.
Onazi should never start ahead of Ogu again.
Finito. after any game you guys will just shift from one position to another...ok now nacho should lead the line....after that i will hear the coach should know nacho is not a natural striker. you guys should calm down, if Ronaldo was a Nigerian, he wont get to start again after that final, make una calm down...players get downtime sometimes |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:43am On Jun 03, 2018 |
forgiveness: I agree with you on Ogu. He's a good and utility player. He's surely on his way to Russia.
I think you are right, he should search for a creative Cms that can pass from deep after the world cup.
For now, Ogu can do that with ease and I hope he is given the chance. Ogu has been a good player, you guys just realizing it now, he was dropped in 2014 unfairly...he played our game against italy in england and was our best but was still dropped |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:41am On Jun 03, 2018 |
ChrisKels: How many matches did he start this past season? played 21 league games out of possible 36 and we all can remember he was injured for sometime |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 7:39am On Jun 03, 2018 |
Mujtahida: This one no be savagery again oo, na savagement. hehehehe correct savagement |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:20pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Which kind of explanation is that one na? How can he push forward when we were always on the back foot and without the ball? push or you will be push...makes me remember champions league final between juventus and Madrid...marcelo vs Alves |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:18pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Joebie: It was a joke. But the forementioned aren’t outstanding either. Not even above average i agree |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 11:09pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
LieDetector: England, Congo, South Africa. Etc .. Onazi was not bad against congo |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:53pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Mujtahida: I gave you the history of where that point about subs came in. Precisely last Saturday was when this argument started. You don win the argument. Bye I'm not here to win argument but to rub minds with super eagles lovers...#iwobiisastarter |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:48pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
ChrisKels: So una eye dun dey open abi, I have always maintained that Azubuike Okechukwu is a better player than those pretenders but tbaba1234 and Icon4s were against me for saying that. Im just Happy u guys are now seeing what Michael and I saw ages ago.
Azubuike made our midfield thick at the Olympics and he has been the best midfielder amongst our midfield contingents that ply their trade in the Turkish league.
Agu and Onazi are bench warmers in this same league, yet they are always picked ahead of Azu Okey by Rohr. For reasons best known to him, he also prefers those two to Esiti and Agbo. Just smh bkus Rohr is gradually losing my confidence KPOM Onazi is not a bench warmer in turkey |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:45pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Joebie: Sincerely I wish we could exchange Aina, Onazi, J. Obi for other players outside the 30. e.g Duru, Azubuike, and Esiti respectively
Jk only this match won't make onazi a bad player |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:43pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
edi287: But Ebuehi is too soft na. Na achebo him be. Him resemble person way breeze go blow. Shehu is strong and understands the African game. Shehu is our best rb. It doesn't matter if Ebuehi played well. He didn't play well against Serbia. Injury is not an excuse. Rohr will RIGHTLY start Shehu in the WC because Ebuehi is weak. Na technical ability we go chop?? when i see comment like this, i start to dey wonder how some people watch ball |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:39pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
kennysville: Correct me if I am wrong but i saw him upfront with ighalo in the first half, hence he was played wrongly. Thats a classic repeat of Nigeria vs cameroon that's how his been playing since...4-2-3-1 formation:- the player behind the striker always act like a second striker |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:37pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Mujtahida: See I'm very flexible in my thinking. The main thrust of my argument has always been play Iwobi from the middle. I only conceded to Iwobi playing as a sub to Mikel cos it was pointed out that Mikel is already doing excellently well as regards whatever we want iwobi to do.
Iwobi kept on drifting into the middle cos that's where his natural instincts lie. he later abandoned the wings(your so called inverted abi false winger) and stationed himself in the middle to the extent that the commentator said Iwobi has been effective (yes he used that word) playing centrally. At a point he was deep in the heart of the midfield in front of the defenders. I told you that Iwobi needs space in his head to flourish. No be to dey hug the lines.
Argue it from morning till night it has become clear to everyone that watched the match that Iwobi flourishes as a midfielder not any yeye inverted abi false winger. SE is not Arsenal. Rohr has been using the Wenger template for Iwobi. It can never work in the SE.
Forget about respecting me. I didn't come here to garner respect. Let's discuss football. deny from now till tomorrow with big grammar, you wanted iwobi on the bench, you had serious argument with icon4s and he keep saying iwobi will start....oga i told you with the system 4-2-3-1 all the 3 players behind the lone striker can do the number 10 duty, this is not the firat time iwobi is doing that. Mujtahida you said iwobi is useless from the wing but can play only in the middle and should be retain on the bench incase mikel is tayad, oga no dey embarrass your self |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:26pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Shebi you always say he's not matured. Him no show you today. The boy has it in him. He's not the kind of midfielder that would give you long swinging passes. He's one that will give short crisp passes and needs a mobile CM to play with him. but you wAnted him on the bench to come in when mikel is tayad |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:25pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
EEGA: It's not booting.
It's just that Rohr didn't select his best XI.
If Ebuehi,Etebo and Ogu started the game we would have controlled the midfield.
So,it was a problem of choice of players not booting.
If you say booting, how come three introduced players didn't take time to boot or gel? you don't know what you are talking about, nobody on here will advise Rohr to start with Etebo and ogu, the team have some kinda psychological issue, i don't believe is the players. this same thing happened in the Nigeria game we won against Cameroon also in algeria,Argentina,Poland and Serbia. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:19pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Which wing did u see Sterling playing? Sterling that was always body to body with the CBs. let me educate you better, when the right back or the left back don't press forward and allow much pressure on himself from the opponent right back, the idle winger tend to move above him to the Central defender, that was what happened in the first half. if you are very observant that stopped in the second galf |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:16pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
kennysville: Playin mikel as a forward backfired. I think we got carried away because he did well with cameroon game in Uyo. Mikel needs to be restored to the deep lying playmaker he has always been for the last 15 years courtesy Mourinho. You cant teach an old dog new tricks.
I wouldnt say Mikel was poor in the first half. He was played wrongly tactically speaking. We can see that all the whatever stopped in the second half and we saw a more meaningful and purposeful ball distribution mikel was played wrongly?? really? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 10:15pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Icon4s: Oga, I am icon4s and not icon04.
Your analysis is spot on. lol sorry sir, correction noted |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:39pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Mujtahida: You notice? Have you not been one of those saying iwobi is more effective from the middle than from the wings?
Oga Martz101 come explain wetin we see from Iwobi today ooo shame!!! can you state where mikel played today and where iwobi played |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:38pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Unlimited22: Even Arsene Wenger made this error at times. He's obviously more effective playing through the middle. mr Mujtahida, if you have dignity you wont even talk about this...you said we should keep moses on the bench until mikel get injured that he can't play from the wings i told you 4-2-3-1 formation don't need the wingers to play as orthodox winger and can actually contain 3 number 10, i sighted arsenal and iwobi,ozil,mihkh. iwobi proved me right today, because he played from the right and drift in, you lost my respect for going back to this today Mikel played 10 today and was bellow par, mikel covered his ass and that was what me and icon04 was talking about |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:32pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Sterling exposed Ekong, Shehu had nothing to do with that. He had his hands full with Young and Delli and he didn't embarrass himself. how do you watch football, sterling a winger exposed the CD, he had his hand full with young because he refused to push...shehu was very poor |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:29pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Didn't you see how Iwobi was rousing after he scored. This team can do it if they believe. Iwobi had believe, it showed in his efforts, in his movements, he played with urgency and determination. He stood out of the pack. Imagine if all of them rose up to the challenge as he did.
During the WCQ the team used to boot for 20 minutes now it's 45 minutes. Too bad. mr Mujtahida i believe you should commend me and mr icon04 after you maintain mikel and iwobi could start and perform...also will you still maintain that iwobi should be on the bench until Mikel get tired? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:26pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
EEGA: Bro na the same match wey I watch you watch.Balogun cleared a lot of balls in the first-half.Ekoong was just averag
If not for their long Oyibo wall partnership, I will prefer Omeruo and Balogun to start. you are the one that didnt watch the game |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:23pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Mujtahida: What I like about Ogu is that he's never pressured. very under rated...wish he was younger |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:20pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
samtol4: HAHAHA Opabunmi attendance at 2002 was a shame to football Bigger shame |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Martz101: 9:17pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
samtol4: Shehu played most of our qualifiers he was not bad but Ebuehi is better and faster with good crosses ,hence should sit on the bench shehu did well in our qualifiers because he was playing with some tactical inept teams. I'm not taking anything away from shehu, his a good player but i think his better in the midfield |