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 Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:59am On Jan 19, 2015 |
eighTHREAD: Obiagelli:I would like to state that the comparison between US activities in Iraq and Nigeria's fight against boko haram was not done to compare their strategy against terror and the results they have both gotten thus far. This is not a comparison of budget, nations, military strategy and results but of the crucial role attacking the rudimentary cause of terrorism is to winning to war on terror. My real goal of the comparison was is bring to light. 1. How bullets and tanks have minimal and ephemeral effect in the fight against terror. 2. To bring to light the magnitude and the resolve of terrorist and the fact that they are like hydras cut one head, 10 more emerges, be they state sponsored or a group of guerilla groups. 3. To show case that you can win a particular battle against terrorist but lose the war against terror. Now based on my analogy and result on the ground I have presented my facts and to showcase that even tho GEJ may be struggling to win the battle against terror. GEJ is laying in my opinion a foundation that pushes us one step further to winning the War. So lets engage based on the following. Which president have laid on ground a better framework to win the war on terror. Which president did more to attack terrorism at its root. I would like you to diligently go through my above 3 post because that was me making my case I would like you to make your case for Buhari and counter the statements I made about Buhari and the APC. As you do this ... I would want us to maintain decorum in our choice of words.
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| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:57am On Jan 19, 2015 |
eighTHREAD:Please dispute my spewed reasoning and address them instead of making snide comments. Lets be issue bassed MR man. |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:53am On Jan 19, 2015*. Modified: 9:19am On Jan 19, 2015 |
Change2015:The link I posted established the fact that Boko harams origins can be traced to maistastine. Please define what reborn means. And what has 16 yrs of pdp given the nation? Insecurity in every corner, with Boko Haram consistently underrated and Jonathan slow to act.@ bolded lets not go there with APC receiving tons of PDP members, the same set of people that played a crucial role in PDP. They are responsible for whatever Nigeria turned out to be in the last 16yrs. This same people are powerful stake holders in your party. APC is PDP with a new name. The delta amnesty cannot be claimed by Jonathan as that was from Yaradua. However when MEND killed half a dozen police and army personnel in Bayelsa, what was the President's response?Guy do you actually read my post and digest my statements before making comments. Where did I say the Amnesty was Jonathan's idea. Moreover kudos would have to be given to Jonathan for continuing with the program and taking it to new heights. The army needs to demonstrate it's competence in the face of Boko Haram. Why should citizens cheer when they can see and feel the disinterest coming out of Aso rock? We know the security services have been consuming one quarter of our national budget, and now we have an internal crisis and what do we see... A President that grants waivers for former militants to import arms and naval vessels, a President that thinks armaments are purchased in cash transactions by non-nigerians flying to south Africa. In breach of south African law, and certainly Nigerian law as well.This is a excerpt from my post which you failed to read. [b] Most Nigerians want results ... They want to see magic happen. They want to hear that our 200 girls are back, that all the captured state in bornu are now under the Military control, the want to shekua head on a tray and Boko haram disbanded . I want the same results too. The challenge is that they fail to realize that you can't get results out of thin air from an army who for the past 30 years have been left to rot, both in equipment, and in training by successive governments. The quality of our soldiers are no longer what it used to. We have people joining the military not out of patriotism but mainly due to the desire to make ends meet. This is a quote from Minimah "“ There is high level of unemployment on the ground, most people want jobs, if that job means joining the Army, fine; it’s a source of employment, but when the reality of military service comes, he drops his rifle and runs away.” (http://www.punchng.com/news/army-getting-new-weapons-to-combat-b-haram/) Also According to Vanguardngr.com I quote [/i] From the deep divisions in the fighting ranks of the Nigerian military, it does appear these selfish politicians have reached out to their contacts in the military and convinced many of them not to fight and to sabotage the operations of the Nigerian military. This has led to too many desertions and cowardly actions, which have paved the way for the Boko Haram to make frightful progress to the point of establishing caliphates here and there - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/boko-haram-curious-calls-presidents-resignation/#sthash.BkUsaPgy.dpuf[/i] So aside Goodluck working hard to correct an over 30 years rot in the military, and leading an army /citizenry filled with saboteurs and Boko haram sympathizers as he tries to navigating his way around the stiff opposition from the west that is bent on limiting his ability to purchase weapons due to their spurious human rights allegation. We see a President looking to borrow $1bn to fight the insurgency, because apparently in planning the budget the issue may not have been a priority?What a very silly conclusion. First the loan is not a cash loan but supply of military hardware to be paid over seven years. This loan do not attract interest. It is very strategic I am wondering why I forgot to mention it in my piece. Close to 90% of the armies budget goes into recurrent expenditure. With only 10% left for milex any attempt by GEJ to encroach into the 90% would spell doom to the salaries of men of service who put their life on line for Nigeria. Taking a 1billion loan that did not attract interest and would be paid over 7 years is a very strategic decision. (http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/168645-jonathan-gets-approval-to-borrow-1billion-to-fight-boko-haram.html ) While some lawmakers applauded the effort of the joint committee and moved for immediate approval of the loan in view of the security challenges, Your party was against it. with Olubunmi Adetumbi (APC-Ekiti), and Sen. George Akume (APC-Benue) called for appropriate procedures to be followed by the senate. The Senate President, Sen. David Mark, however, doused tension by explaining that the senate was not flouting any legal or constitutional provision as the borrowing was not in cash to attract any further procedure before approval. Even his belated visit to maiduguri smells of political opportunism.Whatever you like call it… The fact is that he visited maidugri. When abuja was bombed he claimed it was not MEND, and now close to an election, days after MEND endorses his main rival, he says, oh actually they wanted to kill me? MEND has stated that they gave the authorities notice of the bombing and yet there were still fatalities? The public is left to conclude that Jonathan is a liar because obviously there was no assassination attempted. And the lie is for political gain, certainly not to enhance the security of the nation.The mains story here is not GEJ's statement but the fact that an unrepentant part of a criminal organization MEND that has refused the amnesty supports your candidate and you were all gaga, happy and jubilating. My friend this is very suspicious. The public is left to believe that APC has some form of links with the remains the criminal organization MEND. Who say they may not have such link with boko haram too, Given that their leader Shekua and buhari your candidate would like to see Sharia implemented allover Nigeria. I am very suspicious of APC We have gallant soldiers now sitting on death row, who have said they were sent to the battle front without medical corps attached, and the recent cnn interviews where soldiers complained about their equipment, having to pay for their own treatment, and having to buy their own uniforms. What is the response from the commander in chief? Is there any enquiry to establish the facts and educate the public if the allegations are false? Is there any disciplinary action, if the enquiry establishes that the situation is as these soldiers have testified? Or is it that he needs 4 more years to think about it?Goodluck has just gotten the approval of a 1billion dollar loan in form of military hardware. This load is with no interest it will do justice to an army that have been left to rot for the past 30years plus. What was APC response to this development. The fought against a motion that would enable our soldiers get better military hardware. Sorry but you are convincing no-one with your argument. You have not even tidied up the first of your series on his 'fight' against corruption. Nigeria under Jonathan is crawling into division, and that must end.You are entitled to your opinion … I have responded to those deserving of response on my other thread. Mr Change what has APC done in contributing to help Nigeria fight terrorism aside criticizing and demonize the effort of the military and men who put their lives on the line for Nigeria. 2 Likes 2 Shares
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| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:47am On Jan 19, 2015 |
Change2015:Who is Davis hanson is he president George bush. Please do not quote me out of context. I never said Saddam was a major sponsor of terrorism. I stated they supported/sponsored terrorism. What has 9/11 killers got to do with my statement. Also looks like you did not even read the link you sent. You just quote links from nowhere without having a deep understanding of what you are quoting. This is an excerpt from the link you posted below. The Bush administration made the argument that in the post-9/11 climate there should be a belated reckoning with Saddam Hussein. He had continued to sponsor terrorism, had over the years invaded or attacked four of his neighbors, and had killed tens of thousands of his own people. He was surely more a threat to the region and to his own people than either Bashar Assad or Moammar Qaddafi was eight years later. I am amazed you never read the bolded statement above in the link you posted. This is Why America invaded IRAQ .... Also below is a small excerpt from the presidents George bush's speech in 2003 " Iraq is now the central front in the War on Terror. Enemies of freedom are making a desperate stand there. The terrorists want us to leave Iraq before our work is done. They want to shake the will of the civilized world and they must be defeated. The surest way to avoid attacks on Americans is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans. We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan so that we do not meet him in our own cities. Two years ago, the President told Congress and the country that the war on terror would be a lengthy war, fought on many fronts in many places. America and a broad coalition acted first in Afghanistan. Nearly two-thirds of al-Qaida's known leaders have been captured or killed. We also acted in Iraq, where the former regime sponsored terror, possessed and used weapons of mass destruction, and for 12 years defied the clear demands of the United Nations Security Council. " ( http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030909.html ) With the above information from George bush I have established the fact that the according the US the main reason they invaded iraq was to fight terror and that Iraq sponsored terror. MR change who is the liar now. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:31am On Jan 19, 2015 |
missyAL:This is Why America invaded IRAQ .... Iraq had been listed as a State sponsor of terrorism by the US since 1990, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Iraq had also been on the list from 1979 to 1982; Hussein's regime had proven to be a problem for the UN and Iraq's neighbors due to its use of chemical weapons against Iranians and Kurds in the 1980s. President George W. Bush addressed the nation from the Oval Office, March 19, 2003, to announce the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom. "The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder." Below is a small excerpt from the presidents George bush's speech in 2003 A CENTRAL FRONT IN THE WAR ON TERROR From the President's speech to the Nation, 9/7/03 Iraq is now the central front in the War on Terror. Enemies of freedom are making a desperate stand there. The terrorists want us to leave Iraq before our work is done. They want to shake the will of the civilized world and they must be defeated. The surest way to avoid attacks on Americans is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans. We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan so that we do not meet him in our own cities. Two years ago, the President told Congress and the country that the war on terror would be a lengthy war, fought on many fronts in many places. America and a broad coalition acted first in Afghanistan. Nearly two-thirds of al-Qaida's known leaders have been captured or killed. We also acted in Iraq, where the former regime sponsored terror, possessed and used weapons of mass destruction, and for 12 years defied the clear demands of the United Nations Security Council. (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030909.html ) With the above information form George bush I have established the fact that the according the US the main reason they invaded iraq was to fight terror. Yes they battled against a regular army but The U.S.-led Coalition forces toppled the government and captured the key cities of a large nation in only 21 days. The fact is the real war on terror started after the invasion. As they started to battle with extremist and other terrorist elements in their bid to bring normalcy to iraq ... with Over 2Trillion spent and thousand of lives gone. It became evident that their policy against terror was not working they need a policy change, hence the withdrawal of boots on the ground by Obama and American's insistence on not setting boots on the ground to battle ISIS when she came up. @Change2015 and @ missyAL Before we go deep into this conversation and veer of course engaging on an unnecessary angle of this conversation. I want to bring us back home to the essence of this conversation. I would like to state that the comparison between US activities in Iraq and Nigeria's fight against boko haram was not done to compare their strategy against terror and the results they have both gotten thus far. This is not a comparison of budget, nations, military strategy and results but of the crucial role attacking the rudimentary cause of terrorism is to winning to war on terror. My real goal of the comparison was is bring to light. 1. How bullets and tanks have minimal and ephemeral effect in the fight against terror. 2. To bring to light the magnitude and the resolve of terrorist and the fact that they are like hydras cut one head, 10 more emerges, be they state sponsored or a group of guerilla groups. 3. To show case that you can win a particular battle against terrorist but lose the war against terror. Now based on my analogy and result on the ground I have presented my facts and to showcase that even tho GEJ may be struggling to win the battle against terror. GEJ is laying in my opinion a foundation that pushes us one step further to winning the War. You talk about Goodluck lack of policy and a coherent strategy. I beg to differ what goodluck lacks is the ability to communicate effectively and define his policy on terror. Goodluck is a poor communicator. This has been the Achilles hill of his administration. He has suffered from a poor PR team. It is just of recent his PR team is gradually getting their acts together. I have written extensively on this at one point. So lets engage based on the following. Which president have laid on ground a better framework to win the war on terror. Which president did more to attack terrorism at its root when they had the chance. I would like you to diligently go through my above first 3 posts not just glance over it before you respond because that was me making my case I would like you to make your case for Buhari and counter the statements I made about Buhari and the APC. As you do this ... I would want us to maintain decorum in our choice of words. If you want us to engage further. Lets have fun. 3 Likes |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:24am On Jan 19, 2015 |
obi4eze: akinsadeez:1) In 2014 Lagos State Governor, Babatunde Fashola, SAN was dragged before a Federal High Court sitting in Lagos over alleged failure to release information and documents relating to spending in public schools in the state. Have you asked him why he is refusing to release it. Have you asked him what he is hiding.. Why is he yet to domesticate the freedom of information bill. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/foi-lagos-gov-court-spending-education-lagos/#sthash.K6t9MF8C.dpuf 2) Has APC as a party told you how they have been able to fight corruption in their states. ? 3) In Lagos State after an audit 8 councils were accused of squandering at least N224 million of public funds on a range of questionable expenditure and unimplemented contracts. What has APC lagos done to them. 4) Can you tell me what a man like Atiku is doing in your party when it is public knowledge that he is the epitome of corruption. (http://saharareporters.com/2007/02/20/vice-president-atikus-burden-corruption) (http://pointblanknews.com/News/THE_US_REPORT.htm 5) Can you tell me why I should vote for Buhari who thinks Abacha is not corrupt even after the US froze 458 million dollars he stole? http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/betterlivingofedolitesandnigerians/forum/topics/fact-file-hear-your-boot-licking-general-buhari 6) Under Buhari N25 billion-fraud that took place in the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) But when an unfounded allegation of 20 billion goes missing from NNPC you cry Jonathan. (http://theadvocatengr.com/new/ptf-n25bn-disappeared-under-buhari-pdp-campaign-organisation/ ) Your answers would influence my continued discussion with you. |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:17am On Jan 19, 2015 |
mrmetoo1:Prevention and prosecution goes hand in hand. GEJ is doing both. He is preventing and prosecuting. My post simply highlights the fact that he has been prevention heavy. Prosecution is actually much harder to carry out in a democratic setting given the nuisances of our judiciary process. Prevention therefore pays better, but going forward he should build an much more robust anti corruption strategy. |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:15am On Jan 19, 2015 |
holatin:I gave you my response and asked you a question and you refuse to answer my question. It is evident you have no answer. Unlike you I accept the fact that GEJ is a work in progress. I do not see GEJ the way you see your Buhari and APC as gods who can do no wrong. To the extent they would be milking you dry under your nose and you would still be shouting SAi Buhari. |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:10am On Jan 19, 2015 |
emiye:1. I chose to support a man who because of him Nigerians now go from PH - Enugu on Jonathan train for only N650, Under president goodluck jonathan. 2. I chose to support a man who met DEAD railways! and revived the Lagos-Kano route in 2011 and PH-Enugu route. because of him Lagosians now ride air conditioned trains! 3. I chose to support a man who because of him Nigeria now produces power at the highest level at almost 4,500MW 4. I chose to support a man who because of him Benin Ore road where in the past thousands have lost their life is now safe and motorable 5. I chose to support a man who because of him Highest increase in life expectancy in Nigeria has increase to 51.9 years 5. I chose to support a man who empowered Over 1,200 Nigerian youths to be job creators through YOUWIN. 6. I chose to support a man who working with Bill Gate took polio cases from 50 to 6 7. I chose to support a man who unlike the other candidate is not stifling the press and suppression citizens’ right to freedom of speech... Infact you can criticize the president and still get an award from him. 8. I chose to support a man who under him Global auto giants like Peugeot, Nissan and Hyundai now either assemble or wholly manufacture small cars, Sport Utility Vehicles, trucks and buses at various locations in Nigeria. 10. I chose to support a man who made for the first time since independence Nigerians from the South-East region of the country can now travel their region to the outside world thanks to The Akanu Ibiam Airport in Enugu. 11. I chose to support a man who unbundled of the dysfunctional Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) into about 18 profit-driven companies 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:09am On Jan 19, 2015 |
RoddyMan:Where did I state GEJ is against jailing people who have been convicted of corruption. Read my piece I stated GEJ has made more strides in prevention that prosecution. Going forwards he would need a more robust strategy. 2nd - His body language, such as granting pardon to people like Alamaisegha means he is not really sincere about fighting corruption. http://www.channelstv.com/2013/04/09/us-describes-alams-pardon-as-set-back-to-fight-against-corruption/I do not support that action. Moreover given your logic Buhari saying Abacha is not corrupt … a general that has been indicted by the west. this mean he is really not sincere about fighting corruption. Buhari surrounding himself with the likes of Atiku and Tinubu both with a shoddy past … to the extent they are sponsoring his campaigns really mean he is not sincere to fight corruption 3rd - You mentioned 427cases by the EFCC, I would be interested to know how many of these cases relate to cases of civil servants/ politicians as against private cases like 'Yahoo boys/419' or fraud cases in private companies. I'm very sure that more than 80% will relate to the latter group.Oh it no longer that Jonathan is not prosecuting corrupt people but that 80% percent of them are yahoo. Kai APC, I tire for una. Moreover I have no concrete details on the specifics of the case. Vist here to know more http://efccnigeria.org/efcc/index.php/news Moreover as I write this Under Jonathan NO fewer than 12 governors are being investigated by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission and the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission for massive fraud and misappropriation of public funds in their states. Governors Rochas Okorocha of Imo State; and Emmanuel Uduaghan of Delta State as being on the probe list. “Both of them are aware of the investigations but others are not. If we give you their names, they will start intense lobbying and manoeuvrings which won’t aid our investigations,” the source added. Last year, the sacked chairmen of the 27 local governments in Imo State had told the EFCC that Okorocha misappropriated funds from a N13.5bn bond raised by his predecessor, Ikedi Ohakim. (Okorocah is APC) http://www.punchng.com/news/efcc-icpc-probe-12-governors-for-massive-fraud/ The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission has described media reports that it had dropped corruption case against the governor-elect of Ekiti State, Mr. Ayodele Fayose, as untrue. The agency’s Head of Media and Publicity, Mr. Wilson Uwujaren, told our correspondent on Monday that the recent election of Fayose had not affected the ongoing trial of the governor-elect at the Federal High Court, Ado-Ekiti, for alleged corruption. http://www.punchng.com/news/fayose-still-has-a-case-to-answer-efcc/ Lest I forget under GEJ the judiciary is more independent. EFFC is doing their best to prosecute but the more bigger the thief the hard it is to convict. 4th - Why has he been unable to strengthen the Judiciary to enable them close cases of fraud against public officials? I believe he lacks the will power/guts to fight the corrupt members of his party/cabinet that helped him get into his current position. If his current wealth/position is as a result of the support of a corrupt environment, how can he fight it?In the last two years, the Jonathan administration has strengthened the independence of judiciary by improving the integrity of the appointment of judges and enhancing their security of tenure. Also the federal Government has signed an MOU to implement the court Judgment granting the Judiciary autonomy FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE meaning the Judicial arm of Government will now get their monetary allocation directly from source and no longer needs to lobby for funds. http://leadership.ng/news/392289/judiciary-autonomy-fg-agrees-implement-court-ruling GEJ is doing so ...but more should be done going forward. Inbtween I made some statements About APC and Buhari do you care to respond to them. |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 1:01am On Jan 19, 2015 |
ayindejimmy:@ bolded Pls lets not go there with APC receiving tons of PDP members, the same set of people that played a crucial role in PDP. They are responsible for whatever Nigeria turned out to be in the last 16yrs. This same people are powerful stake holders in your party. APC is PDP with a new name. A vote for APC is still a vote for PDP with a new name. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 12:26am On Jan 19, 2015 |
dolphinheart:Most of the bad things I did not do while growing up was because my parent created an environment that made it hard for me to do them without been caught. Removing the teeth of corrupt people which Buhari did … did nothing to stop corruption it had and ephimeral and short lived effect. Those people he removed their teeth. have growing back the teeth and continued stealing. You need to hide the meat and remove their teeth that is all my post have been saying. |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 12:21am On Jan 19, 2015 |
mrmetoo1:TRUE story I know a man who was once a former vice president of Nigeria who used his office to enrich himself to stupor, he stole billions of dollars this same man is currently one of those sponsoring Buhari's re-election bid. That alone makes me think buhari can't fight corruption. To fight corruption he would have to start with his friends |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 7:30am On Jan 18, 2015 |
RoddyMan:As usual you are entitled to your opinion. I never ignored those counter arguments. I responded to those I had the time to respond to. I will respond to all of them both in this thread and the other this week. It will be a fun ride for us all.  |
| Politics › Re: Aisha Buhari: The North Should Hold Amaechi Responsible by Matthewbriggs(m): 9:21pm On Jan 17, 2015 |
I support good luck but this is not cool. This cooked up story. 3 Likes |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 1:47pm On Jan 17, 2015 |
missyAL:I would address the points you raised. Moreover I am excited and look forward to engaging you on this subject ... Once i clear my schedule. I am currently unavailable at the moment. I would respond once I am free. Thanks |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 12:04pm On Jan 17, 2015*. Modified: 12:37pm On Jan 17, 2015 |
missyAL:O the reason they fought for the regime change was not because his regime supported terrorism. Abi  Secondly It would be simply idiotic to compare terrorisim in Nigeria to US a developed nation with a military budget that several times our entire national budget. Iraq is a much better comparison they are both third world nations with a higher percentage of her people followers of a religious prone to extremisim. 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 11:31am On Jan 17, 2015 |
adamskutty:Your statement gave credence to the fact that you never read my piece. I stated that you never win the war against terror by killing terrorist alone ... You may win the battle but not the war. Yardua just like buhari never won the war they just won the battle. I say this because you win the war against terror by crushing their ideology and giving people in terror prone areas more access to education and opportunity. Case in point is MEND which you mentioned. Mend that was brought to stands still when the government took active steps the give the people of the Niger delta more access to education and opportunity. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 11:23am On Jan 17, 2015*. Modified: 11:56am On Jan 17, 2015 |
adamskutty:You are entitled to your opinion. I respect that. But your assertion are way wrong. I am not a big fan of back and forth arguments online. One key reason is my tight schedule. Moreover I do engage when it is absolutely neccesary, case in point is my last thread where I did engaged with your APC supporters with the little time at my disposal. |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 11:09am On Jan 17, 2015 |
jaybee3:I believe you must have read one of my threads where I dealt extensively about his lack of an effective communication strategy that should give you enough context when I make such statements. Yes action speaks louder, But actions can only speak when it is communicated effectively. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 9:16am On Jan 17, 2015 |
Space for rejionders |
| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 9:16am On Jan 17, 2015 |
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| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 9:15am On Jan 17, 2015 |
Moreover I prefer a good luck led army against boko haram than an APC lead army I say this for the following reasons. 1. The reaction of the opposition to Boko haram : In Paris artists were killed ... In America the world trade center fell ... In Australia a hostage took over a cafe ... the recurring theme in all these events is the fact that everyone including the opposition came together united as one, in support of the government in her fight against terrorism. They stood with soldiers, they stood with men who sacrifice their life to keep them safe. But what have we have instead is an opposition that would rather oppose the government and make inciting statements instead of contributing her own quota to the fight against boko haram. This is a quote from daily post.ng “Rather than show patriotism by collaborating with the Federal Government, the APC presidential aspirant prefers that the nation has no solution until the time he is able to step in as president with his ‘magic wand’ to end the insurgency. This not only exposes a height of insensitivity, but also a clear absence of genuine love and concern for the people. Assuming, without conceding that he has the solution to the problem, should Buhari as a prominent citizen not have put the country first before any selfish political agenda and personal aggrandizement?” - End of quote. It is therefore of no surprise that the current presidential candidate of the APC when asked to lead a delegation to hold talks with boko haram he refused. [b] Also seeing publications from the APC complaining that Nigerian has spent over 30billion dollars for defense in two years and yet the military is failing to contain boko haram, forgetting that with over 2 trillion dollars spent in the fight against terror in a country half the size of Nigeria by the best army in the world the west is yet to contain terrorism in iraq. Statements of this nature in contrast with the real reality of the enemy we face as a nation leads credence to the fact that they may have no idea of the magnitude of the enemy we fight. The fact is that they opposition has done nothing so far in fighting terrorism other than utilizing it to score political points, and have proceeded to indirectly become tools in boko haram's propaganda of terror. I am therefore not confident in their ability to contain terror. [b] 2. Buhari credentials makes me question his ability to attack Terror: [b] APC's propaganda arm has been awash with the exploit of buhari's battle with the maistine rioters and thus they believe he has the ability to defeat boko haram. [b] Yes Buhari may have won the battle against maistine a small group of rioters in 1985 but the real story is that he ultimately lost the war against terror due to his lack of deep insight of the enemy he faced. He failed to realize that you do not win way against terror by killing terrorist alone you win the war by killing their ideaology. I say this because according to this report from these sources below, Boko haram's origins can be traced to the Maitatsine. http://allafrica.com/stories/201107240006.html , http://wwrn.org/articles/32352/?&place=nigeria§ion=sectarian-violence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram Read this thread for better context https://www.nairaland.com/833495/lies-lies-lies-buhari-5 This assertion is backed by the fact that it is easy to see that boko haram is the same as Maitatsine, aside its origin… they share the same beliefs, theology and violent methods. I would also like to point out that his battle against maistine was very insignificant … because this feat have been repeated by our armies over and over again, it can be likened to news we hear every day of our military taking control over a territory and killing so and so number of terrorist and chasing them away, we all know that these news do not mean victory nor does it translate to the fact that the we won the war on terrorism. Until you kill the idealogy you will never defeat terror. I therefore make bold to say that Buhari failed in fighting terror reason is that Maitatsine never ended in 1985, He might have chased them to chad but because of he left no solid anti terror legacy like other past Nigerian leaders, 30 years later Nigeria is still battling the remains of a group he failed to nip in the bud when he had the chance. [b] The question is If he failed in fighting terror in 1985 when he was at his prime, What makes me think he can do so today. Secondly I am not sure I would want a man who made the following statement saying "An attack against boko haram is an attack against the north" … I am not sure I would want a man who spoke out against soldiers laying down their life to keep us safe. I am not sure I want him leading this same army against bokoharam. Irrespective of the fact that he has gone on to pick a pastor as his running mate … His extremist views like his support for sharia been implemented throughout Nigeria which something the boko haram group seems to be agitating for does not stand well with me. Good luck Ebele Jonathan may not be perfect. But he is one of the best thing that has ever happened to Nigeria's fight against terror. I would chose a man whose approach to solving terror aside using guns and bullet … is building strong Intelligence gathering / monitoring systems that enables you to detect terror before it strikes as he role out strategies to attack the root source of terrorism like killing the ideology that powers her, using education and capacity building. I would chose GEJ to a man who shares some extremist views with these terrorist to cap it all failed to nip in the bud just boko haram at its infancy … The fact that he come from a party that has done nothing so far to help in the fight agaisnt terror makes him a not so attractive prospect. 9 Likes 6 Shares
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| Politics › Re: (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 9:15am On Jan 17, 2015*. Modified: 9:07am On Jan 19, 2015 |
GEJ FIGHTING INSECURITY They say Goodluck jonathan has failed in keeping Nigerians safe, that he is incompetent. Under him 200 chibok girls were kidnapped from their school, over 2000 people were massacred in the town of Baga recently. The north east seems to be no longer safe, bomb blast are becoming an order of the day. We hear news of Boko haram taking over cities, while our soldiers flee as they complain that they are poorly equipped, But we hear billions of naira has been set aside for defense. Why do boko haram seem to be getting the upper hand. MY RESPONSE : In 2003 America invaded Iraq, a country half the size of Nigeria. The major goal was to take the fight against terror to her door step. Several years later with over 4,486 US soldiers dead, and according to Reuters over 2 Trillion dollars an equivalent to 75 times our entire national budget for the year 2014. It is expected that with this much investment from the world's most powerful armies in collaboration with the strongest and the most efficient Secret intelligence agencies in the world ... Terrorism should be history in iraq a county half the size of Nigeria. But what is the current reality on the ground. As you read this, nearly half of Iraq is currently controlled by a Terrorist organization called ISIS. According to Reuters a top new agency, over 13millions citizen of iraq have been displaced. Over 500,000 iraqis have lost their life as casualties in the fight against terror. Are the Americans, British and west Incompetent given that even after killing saddam husseni, Bin landen and setting up military bases in iraqi and spending 2 Trillion dollars of their taxpayers money to fight terror in Iraqi an amount that is 155 times our defense budget ... Terror is instead growing like wild fire. Is Barack Obama and all the leaders of the 10 arab states with their legions of Jet fighters and Kurds/iraqi soldiers on the ground incompetent given that for the past 4 months they have not been able to flush out ISIS from a very tiny city called kobani in iraqi. Instead over 300,000 civillians have fleed to turkey. The reason for the above information is me trying to provide you a with a deeper context and understanding of terrorism. To give you an idea of the magnitude of the type of enemy we face. One common trend I have discovered is that most Nigerian underestimate Boko haram and are yet to fully grasp the magnitude of the type of enemy we face. They think they are one rag tag group of criminals. Boka haram is a terrorist organization like ISIS, Alqueda, Taliban powered by an ideology with funding and support from wealthy extremists in and outside Nigeria. With massive supply of willing fighters Even if the Military kills 50 today, a hundred more rises to replace them in no due time. The world thought that after the death of Bin landen Terrorism would go down and the moral of terrorist would weaken but that is far from the truth in fact the reverse has been the case with terrorist becoming more bolder. I would not want to completely absolve GEJ of all the blame in this fight against terror. His problem in my opinion has been his inability to carry Nigerians along in the fight and effectively communicate what he is doing in dealing with them. His inability to communicate his sympathy during the wake of the Bring back our girls crisis and his display of insensitivity on some occasion were very wrong and may have sent the wrong signals to most Nigerians. Irrespective of his shortcomings I make bold to say that GEJ is one president that has done quite a lot in the fight against Terrorism compared to other administration. I say this for the following reasons. Most Nigerians want results ... They want to see magic happen. They want to hear that our 200 girls are back, that all the captured state in bornu are now under the Military control, the want to shekua head on a tray and Boko haram disbanded . I want the same results too. The challenge is that they fail to realize that you can't get results out of thin air from an army who for the past 30 years have been left to rot, both in equipment, and in training by successive governments. The quality of our soldiers are no longer what it used to. We have people joining the military not out of patriotism but mainly due to the desire to make ends meet. Also According to Vanguardngr.com I quote [/i] From the deep divisions in the fighting ranks of the Nigerian military, it does appear these selfish politicians have reached out to their contacts in the military and convinced many of them not to fight and to sabotage the operations of the Nigerian military. This has led to too many desertions and cowardly actions, which have paved the way for the Boko Haram to make frightful progress to the point of establishing caliphates here and there - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/boko-haram-curious-calls-presidents-resignation/#sthash.BkUsaPgy.dpuf [/i] So aside Goodluck working hard to correct an over 30 years rot in the military, and leading an army /citizenry filled with saboteurs and Boko haram sympathizers as he tries to navigating his way around the stiff opposition from the west that is bent on limiting his ability to purchase weapons due to their spurious human rights allegation. More in terms of Ammunition purchase he has recently been able to secure a I billion dollar loan. This loan is not a cash loan but supply of military hardware to be paid over seven years. This loan do not attract interest. It is very strategic move given that Close to 90% of the armies budget goes into recurrent expenditure. With only 10% left for milex any attempt by GEJ to encroach into the 90% would spell doom to the salaries of men of service who put their life on line for Nigeria. Taking a 1billion loan that did not attract interest and would be paid over 7 years is a very strategic decision. We are on a part to have a much more equipped army to battle terror. The irony is that the same APC say Nigerian army lack ammunition were against this move. Whewww What opposition. Moreover I have confidence in a Goodluck's leading fight against terrorism in his second term. In say this because the best way to tackle terrorism is not only by guns, bullets, tanks and choppers but by building strong Intelligence gathering / monitoring systems that enables you detect terror before it strikes. Hence It is of no surprise that under good luck there have been heavy investment in counter-terrorism joint training programmes and equipment for the Nigerian military and police force. Also most notably is that Under Goodluck The national identity management commission has been sent on a new course of Building an accurate state of the art Identity Data Base of every Nigerians. With each Nigerian having a unique identification number tied to an electronic card, Just like the social security number in the US ... By this singular action the president has sent in motion a powerful initiative that would enable our security agencies gather solid intelligence and track potential terror or crime suspects. Our fight against terror is poised to be more smarter and efficient once this is completed this year. Secondly you do not win the war against Terror by killing terrorist alone. You win the war by killing the ideology that powers terrorism. Key ways of killing the ideology is first by giving citizens in terror prone areas more access to education and opportunities: Terrorist recruiters feed on the ignorance and economic frustration of their recruits. It is of no suprise that Boko haram is against education. That is why Good luck jonathan investing billions of naira in building 9 universities and 125 Almajiri Schools in 13 states in the north is very strategic and an incredible step in the right direction. The fact is it is much more harder for you to convince an educated man with a job and a good life to go blow himself up. The north is indeed a nuclear reactor of talents, of scientist, of doctors, of inventors waiting to be unleashed to serve Nigeria not as terrorist, not as boko haram fighters. By this singular act he has nipped in the bud a teeming population of potential recruits, because the Almajiris of today are the potential bokoharams of tomorrow. You also need a well thought out desensitization strategy aimed and at killing the seeds of extremism in the minds of potential terrorist. As I write this the national intelligence agency is about embarking on a drive to use positive media propaganda as a tool to combat the ideology of these terrorist . GEJ is not incompetent ... He is the first Nigerian president to face this new kind of threat. A threat that even the so called world powers with all their military advancement and 2 trillion dollars of funding are yet to contain. 12 Likes 7 Shares
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| Politics › (Boko haram )PART 2 Of How I Engage With APC Supporters & Win Them Over Offline. by Matthewbriggs(op): 9:14am On Jan 17, 2015*. Modified: 8:25am On Jan 19, 2015 |
If you have read Part One … This is PART TWO of a series of Threads that were inspired by my encounter with a cab driver. A while ago I boarded a cab ... as the journey progressed. The driver started talking about how APC's buhari was the best thing for Nigeria. After spending 15minutes with him in that cab ... This guy moved from been a buhari supporter to undecided. All I basically did was share with him my conviction on why I think Good luck deserves a second term. The first thing any buhari supporter would do when they start engaging you is complain about jonathans government. Their complains revolves around three key themes. They are a) Corruption b) Insecurity/bokoharam c) and the economy. I decided to address each of these themes on separate threads over a period of time, as I try to share with you my personal conviction. I have tackled corruption in before For today I would be tackling Insecurity/Bokohram. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Politics › Re: Politicinas Are Liars, I Don't Trust Them : Pastor E.A Adeboye by Matthewbriggs(m): 10:12pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
Bottom line Adeboye does not Trust Osinbanjo, and co.  They thought having a man who thinks sharia should be implemented thought out Nigeria pay visit to his church would pull the wool over his eyes. Not knowing Pastor Adeboye cannot be deceived so easily. 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: 6 Types Of Voters In Nigeria. What Type Are You? by Matthewbriggs(m): 9:14pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
I belong to the sophisticated... |
| Politics › Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Matthewbriggs(m): 8:36pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
Very revealing |
| Politics › Re: Prof. Yemi Osinbajo Having Breakfast (Photo) by Matthewbriggs(m): 10:45pm On Jan 15, 2015 |
herald9:@bolded. GUY you wicked ooo. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:22pm On Jan 15, 2015 |
emiye:I have been very busy ... Just closed from work. GEJ is a very marketable product the challenge GEJ is facing is that he has a very weak propaganda team who is just waking up from a long slumber. If GEJ loses the election. It would not be because he did not perform well. It would be because those in charge of selling his image to Nigerians did a poor job. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 8:17pm On Jan 15, 2015 |
bayulll01:Lol your post reminds me of one cab driver. He is serious buhari fanatic. I had to chill down a bit because the vibe I was getting from him was not funny. I want to live long. Where the conversation became interesting was when he raised buharis certificate issue. When I finished educating him about it. The man just dey look me. Moreover thank you for comment. It is well |
| Politics › Re: How I Engage With APC Supporters And Win Them Over Offline. Part 1 (Corruption) by Matthewbriggs(op): 4:16pm On Jan 15, 2015 |
holatin:Below were my questions Matthewbriggs: 1 Like |
. Smh. You engaged a taxi driver who is probably a stark illiterate and an unenlightened man and still had the nerve to come here boasting of how you win APC supporters in an argument.