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QuinQ:
Begotten by whom? When? Ask your supervisor elder

Did you believe what God's word said or not? John 3:16🙂

DeepSight:
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Good excuse.
The scripture remains there to taunt you. It clearly says there were other sons of God and even Satan was one of them.
Enjoy yourself as to how God begat them.

Oga abeg waka pass my side i no ready for insults today!🤣

QuinQ:
Can you explain "begotten son"? Begotten by who

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV

Is this what you want me to explain or not?

DeepSight:
I repeat - how are they sons of God if not begotten by God?

You still dey my domot?

Abeg waka pass my side i no get time for insults today!🤣

Oh, I see!
So you are here to insult people sorry abeg waka pass my side!🤣

DeepSight:
I hope you are not drinking.
How are those other beings sons of God if they are not begotten by God?

DeepSight:
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​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)
Who were these other sons if Jesus is the only one?

I said ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God not only son.

I hope you are the bolded

DeepSight:
1. Whose son are you
2. Who are those referred to as the sons of God in the book of Job.

Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of the one and only true God.

So he totally differs from all other beings!🙂

QuinQ:
Testimonial from all over about what same Jesus is doing - samr Jesus that never existed!

Now you are talking.

sonmvayina just love aimless arguments

Himself, his Jewish landlord and atheist friends were like first century antagonists trying to silence young kids who were saying:

“Blessed is the one coming as the King in Jehovah’s name! Peace in heaven, and glory in the heights above" Luke 19:38

Jesus told them:

“I tell you, if these (children) remained silent, the stones would cry out.” Luke 19:40

Why?

Because Jesus is God's only begotten Son who doesn't need historians to get his messages across the globe!

Disinfectant123:
Wdym "How"
Isnt he all powerful?

Even God's son was raised by Joseph and Mary!🙂

Moderator101:
Are you saying God decided the kids should be killed too since there is no parent to raise them?

But i expected to see adults on this forum nah, who is giving babies phones to join in intelligent discussions!😟
Of what benefits are children without parents to cater for them?

Disinfectant123:
Cant god take care of them?

How?
What He said is it's parents that should raise their children so if such parents can't then their products (children) must not live.
Of course they will be raised in Paradise where true Christians will cater for them as all the resources on planet earth will be managed by God's organization not now that people are still fighting and killing for natural resources!🙂

QuinQ:
The question is mentioning Hom at all, whether on His side or not.

You like worrying yourself my guy.

Can you remember when anyone ask you how people come about using paper designed as money in exchange for everything?

Yet they are ready to quarrel, fight and even kill their neighbors for money.

So if they are seeing the disciples of Christ all over the earth preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom let them continue arguing about Jesus' existence.

Disinfectant123:
He was made good and decided to kill kids because of their parents actions? So evil moustache man did some good deeds does that make him good? I thought adults would have common sense. Still havent debunked my points, Him doing some evil deeds debunks him being all loving.

How do you expect parents dead while kids are left to suffer with no one to cater for them?
I thought you wanted to reason o!🤔

sonmvayina:
I don't want conjectures.

Go worship with your Jewish landlord no need worrying yourself!

bolabizzle:
Keep beards now o. Your governing body has given you permission to keep what jehovah gave you naturally.

Nobody is cashing out in God's organization!

I'm one of his witnesses.
Walahi talahi he is not using church funds!

If you can't answer the simple question it's OK!
There's no need getting annoyed!🙂

Your Daddy said:

Failure to pay tithe means worshipers are not going to heaven.

Do you think he is telling you the truth from God?

RhemaJet7:
I repeat, YOU ARE A FALSE PREACHER!

IF YOU ARE A GENUINE CHRISTIAN, YOU WILL NOT BE SPEAKING AGAINST YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN, A WELL RESPECTED, HUMBLE MAN OF GOD, AN ESTABLISHED INSTITUTION EVEN IF THE MAN COMMITED ERROR, BECAUSE NO ONE IS PERFECT.

ANOTHER NAME FOR SATAN IS "ACCUSER", AS YOU PERSISTENTLY ACCUSE THE MAN, THAT SHOWS YOU ARE WRONG, YOU ARE NOT A GENUINE CHRISTIAN.

More evidence shows on your profile.

You are quoting scriptures that say: WE SHOULD PRAY FOR EVERYONE, PRAY FOR OUR ENEMIES - YOU MEAN EVEN ISLAMIC TERRORISTS, BANDITS AND THEIR SPONSORS, AS CHRISTIANS, WE SHOULD BE PRAYING FOR THEM?

HELL NO!

THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS CASE AT THIS VERY TIME.

EVERY SCRIPTURE IS TRUE
EVERY SCRIPTURE IS A LAW.

AND IN EVERY LAW, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

THAT IS, IN THIS DISPENSATION, I AM PERMITTED TO CURSE ANY ENEMY OF CHRIST.

WE ARE IN A TERRITORIAL BATTLE,

I CAN NOT BE FIGHTING SPIRITUAL WARFARE, AND YOU WILL EXPECT ME TO BE USING GENTLE WORDS WITH YOU.
THAT'S STUPIDITY!

THE KINGDOM OF GOD SUFFERETH VIOLENCE, THE VIOLENCE TAKE IT BY FORCE.

As you opposed Pastor Adeboye and his ministry,, MOCKED his God, you have brought curses upon yourself.

The Law says that.

Evidence below:

Matthew 12 (KJV)

30   He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

31   Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32   And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The fact remains that God never created anything evil everything He made was GOOD.
So it's rebellious humans who won't take to His purposes that will make Him redirect what is GOOD for another purpose.

Take for instance God created humans with the ability to communicate through the gift of speaking but when inhabitants of Babel decided to remain in one location instead of spreading to all the corners of the earth as God wanted {Genesis 1:28} He redirected their gift of speech to contradict themselves so that they left Babel and scattered throughout the earth! Genesis 11:1-9

Now to prove His ability that He is the one who gave humans the ability to speak God redirected the speeches of Jesus' first century disciples so they began speaking languages they themselves don't understand thinking they were still speaking their normal language while their audience are hearing different tongues according to the person each disciple is talking to! Act 2:4

Please what is evil in the gift of speech?🙂

Disinfectant123:
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"While Genesis 1:31 affirms that creation was initially “very good,” this describes a specific point in time, before the entrance of sin, rebellion, and human disobedience. In narratives like the Flood, God explicitly declares His intention to destroy life: “I am going to destroy all flesh” (Gen 6:13). Water functions merely as the instrument, not as a morally neutral “tool” accidentally redirected; the destructive intent originates from God Himself. Similarly, Isaiah 45:7 explicitly states that God creates both peace and calamity (raʿ), indicating that divine judgment, not human misuse of resources, is the source of disaster. Holiness does not mean that God refrains from issuing destruction—it means He never acts immorally. Reducing all calamity to “redirection of good things” imposes a philosophical comfort onto the text and ignores the consistent biblical pattern of intentional divine judgment, where instruments like rain, fire, or armies are secondary to God’s sovereign will. Reading Scripture with this mindset—acknowledging divine sovereignty and moral purpose—does not diminish God’s goodness; it shows that judgment and destruction are fully compatible with His holiness and justice."

QuinQ:
Exactly. If people were to be written about by order, he'd be among the last written. Allegedly walking on water and raising the dead would convince historians even more that they were dealing with fiction not worth mentioning!

Jesus himself knew that history can't be on his side because Satan is the one in control of all the fields having to do with money and riches among mankind that is why he said to his disciples:

"You will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth" Act 1:8

Are they to be arguing about Jesus' existence?

NO!

Rather it's by their activities as prophesied in the Bible before Jesus that will serve as evidence or witness that the promised Prince Of Peace has come and taught people through his wonderful counsel {Isaiah 9:6} how to form a global family of peace loving worshipers in preparation for the coming new world!

@ Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

This is what we found:


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.



Malachi said:


Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. ‭Malachi 3:16 NIV‬


So if there is a global organization of worshipers who have used what they found in the Bible to resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves, stop producing, buying selling and using of weapons and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone yet someone keeps agitating about the existence of God's promised Prince Of Peace there is no need wasting my precious time with such ones.

Malachi said while we are going about discussing with interested ones who are seeking the righteousness of God and reasoning with them from the scriptures {Matthew 10:11-13; 28:19-20} Jehovah's angels are writing down our names and the names of those paying attention to us {Malachi 3:16} because that's the only way people's name can enter into the book of life! Revelation 20:15🙂

If so then each historian will right what is important to them as for Jesus he was a nobody then that's why Pharisees need someone to identify his face, Herod wanted to know him because of the death of John the baptist that he killed thinking Jesus could be resurrected John and most importantly the Roman governor Pontius Pilate found the whole story as nonsense but he felt the Jewish religious leaders were simply jealous that Jesus (a younger Jew) is stealing their members.

So no right thinking historian of his time could think of writing about a nobody!🙂

QuinQ:
I said "contemporary historian", a historian living around the same time as the person or happening.
Example, someone writing a history of the Biafran War today would be a contemporary historian. As opposed to someone writing it 500 years from now.
Example. Josephus would be considered a contemporary historian of Jesus though he was born after His death.

Aydot99:
Yes, All power belongs to God and not all power belongs to son of Mary.

You are right all powers belong to God that is why Jesus could say:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth" Matthew 28:18

If it belongs to Jesus then what is the essence of giving him in the first place?

So it's evident that the one having all the power allowed Jesus to rule for a period of time and that time is limited as Jesus must return what was given to him! 1Corinthans 15:27-28🙂

Aydot99:
Popsi nack my mumsi 9month later I was born. Very easy to explain

Guy are you a friend to Mr Ibu?🤣

QuinQ:
If someone writes "Nigrrian Church history from 1914 to Present (2026)" you'd wonder why they didn't mention Oyedepo.

I'm asking what you meant by the word "CONTEMPORARIES"
Please don't change the subject!

Well if you don't calm down and type the words like a faithful Christian will do with deep respect for Christ Jesus who said we should not be hurtful in words and actions i'm sorry the ban may last for more than you expected. Matthew 10:16

Please calm down and respectfully type what is kind just as Jesus said that nice people say good things out of a good heart! Luke 6:45

sonmvayina:
ok
1. Show me where God says he has a son.
2. show me where God said he was sending his son as a ransom...

I never expected you to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses because there is one quality that's found in each person who becomes one of us and from the experience i have had with you that quality is far from you.
So my response to you is for prospective JWs who are searching for the only true Christian organization not just every Dick and Harry because faith on its own is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2🙂

The prophecies about the Messiah started right in the garden of Eden after Adam's rebellion.

@ Genesis 3:15 God told Satan that a child will be born who will destroy all the works of Satan! 1John 3:8

@ Genesis 49:10 Jacob prophesied that rulership will not depart from Judah until Shiloh comes and to him the obedience of all the people will belong! Philippians 2:10

@ Deuteronomy 18:18 God promised to raise a prophet/god like Moses {Exodus 7:1} among the Israelites {Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1} and whoever disobey him will be cut off from among the living! John 3:16

@ Isaiah 14:12 it was revealed that a virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a baby boy whose name will be called Immanuel which means "with us if God" Jesus was born of a virgin and he served as God performing great miracles even greater than what Moses who was first called God did in his lifetime. Exodus 7:1

@ Daniel 9:26 It was revealed that the Christ (Messiah) will be killed with no property left for himself this happened to Jesus of Nazareth as the last thing he had on him was taken away! John 19:23-24

@ Daniel 12:1-3 it was revealed that Michael who is standing for the salvation of God's people will come and do so many things which Jesus did in his three years of ministry.

@ Joel 2:28-30 God promised to put His spirit on many believers and lots of wonderful things will happen this was fulfilled few days after Jesus was raised from the dead showing that what God promised has been granted! Act 2:16-18

@ Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 God promised to unite faithful people throughout the world and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers through the teachings of the Bible. Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling this today.

So if you don't believe that Jesus exists that's your own cup of coffee God has given enough evidence (witnesses) around you and that is what we need to see not seeing a spirit before believing that our God is working among us! Isaiah 43:10🙂

QuinQ:
Who and where?
Even His apostles did not write about Jesus till long after His resurrection

Please what do you meant by the word "contemporaries"?

Are you talking about people who must pen down the history while it's happening or people who lived the same time with Jesus?🙂

Queenttoast01:
Brother Maxin, purpose of life is greater than money. Money is just a tool and this is a stated volunteering role and no one works for God and gets nothing.

That's good if your God will pay them!

QuinQ:
OP's point is that no contemporary historian wrote of any one of them - even negatively.

They actually wrote about false Christ but they may not be talking about Jesus.

That's my own point!🙂

sonmvayina:
Only those that follow the Torah.....
that is what the passages is saying.
but God is within everyone, but the witness are those keeping the Torah.

What the verse says is that it's their activities that will serve as evidence that their God is alive in their midst.

So if you believe that then you have no excuse after seeing Jehovah's Witnesses who are WITNESSES of Jesus of Nazareth! Act 1:8🙂

sonmvayina:
ok, please can you quote from the Tanakh where it says God has a son, he was sending as a ransom for humans.....
I will become a JW today.....if you can and we will end this discussion. but if you can't, are you willing to consider the fact you have been fooled and lied to..?

God never completed all the prophecies about the Messiah in any single verse so it's either you accept it in parts or forget about God and Messiah completely!🙂

QuinQ:
His point is that no contemporary historian wrote about Jesus, even denouncing him or warning people not to follow his "false doctrine"

Was there any who specifically mention Jesus by name?
I understood what you are saying but it's evident that there were three individuals in the first century claiming Christ so the people you are quoting may be talking about any of them!😟

sonmvayina:
Guy, God is within everybody oh
God is the universal consciousness....Not a Jewish man up in the sky.
you really don't understand anything.

So everyone you see around you whether they are obedient or disobedient are WITNESSES of God shey?🙂