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sonmvayina:
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opinion and emotions...
I want facts....

You will see it keep on seeking! Matthew 7:7-8🤣

Funny atheist!
Seun will complete it!🤣

Because he is the only begotten Son of the true God!🙂

martinskelly:
Was i in the first place asking you to lead me to one? Abi did i tell you that i was scammed by one.
Weren't you the one that started writing Epistles even when it's clear that i wasn't asking for it. So, your illustration on how to know the true God is by using fake and original currency to convey your message to someone that is enlightened. Smh
Abi you think say I dey follow religion sheepishly.
A word on marble for you;
"If you never surrender, you no go encounter"
Have a blessed day.

Here is your question again:

martinskelly:
Someone said believe your pastor and Ignore the other, but what if both of them are my pastor?

Meanwhile you can't connect with the Bible God without first having to do with His anointed/chosen ones who are also connected to his Son.

Jesus said about people who aren't Jews:

“I pray not only for these followers but also for those who will believe in me because of their teaching." John 17:20 ERV

Paul said to Hebrew speaking Christians:

Remember your leaders. They taught God’s message to you. Remember how they lived and died, and copy their faith. Hebrews 13:7

Obey your leaders. Be willing to do what they say. They are responsible for your spiritual welfare, so they are always watching to protect you. Obey them so that their work will give them joy, not grief. It won’t help you to make it hard for them. Hebrews 13:17

So my friend you can't be a Christian if you are not SUBMISSIVE to any organized group of teachers who are serving in place of Apostles many like you thought they can be Christians when they are not truly submissive to any organized group of teachers but they end up doing whatever pleases them all in the name of Jesus so Jesus said such humans are workers of iniquity. Matthew 7:23

WHY?

Because they failed to focus on what will benefit all believers as one family instead they are seeking only their own good which means they only pick whatever pleases them in any religion calling Jesus!🙂

martinskelly:
The coloured is saying many and not all, I must not believe every tom, dick and harry doctrines to know that God exist because the bible has explicitly stated God exist.

The few remaining ones that are not among the false prophets are still much alive and still much amongst us.

Why not think of how to identify the one and only true prophet of God?

If there's a problem regarding fake currency circulating won't you work towards getting to know the original one?

martinskelly:
There is a lot of divisions amongst Christianity which is not obtainable with the other religions.

There is no division among Christians it's you people that love deceit.

Only one organization is practicing what Jesus taught and they are united globally just as he begged his father to make it happen among them:

"I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one" John 17:22

In true Christianity there can never be a division {1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8} it was after the death of Christ's Apostles (when men were sleeping in death) that Satan initiated his own agents and mixed them up with those believing in the teachings of Christ's Apostles {Matthew 13:25} from that year until the 20th century Christianity was silenced and all sorts of atrocities was committed by Satan's agents in the name of Christ but after Jesus returned in the 20th century he began to restructure his group once again and today Christianity is back fully on her feet but the true God began calling us by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So if you want to see the love Jesus said will reign among his disciples come and see, it's happening for real among us! John 13:34-35

There is no racism nor politics that can divide us because we are God's people following His chosen {anointed men)

martinskelly:
Someone said believe your pastor and Ignore the other, but what if both of them are my pastor?

Good question!

When Jesus said:

"Many false prophets will arise and mislead many" Matthew 24:11

He was talking about different religions claiming they are worshiping the same God just as it happened in the days of Elijah, 450 prophets of Baal claimed they are worshipers of the only true God who sent Moses.

Do you think they worship in the same center?

NO!

Each of them has his or her center where people gather to worship with them but they all had one thing in common: they are calling Baal and using the same system of worship though there are slight differences in their mode of worship which prompted 99% of Israelites to embrace the false worship as each person will find the one he or she preferred.

Today all these people claim they are worshiping the same God: JESUS!
But are they teaching the truth?
NO! They are targeting followers hence teaching what appeals to many people all in the name of Jesus! Matthew 15:8-9 compare to Matthew 7:21-23

So if you want to know the truth pray to the God of heavens and beg Him to send His worshipers to you in your home {Act 8:26-36 compare to Matthew 10:11-13} they will surely come but you may not like their system of handling sacred service because it's not the common one you are used to. Luke 21:17; John 17:14

We are fulfilling the prophecy that's revealed in God's word regarding the end time and we have formed a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} even in this period when people are hating, fighting and killing themselves due to racism and politics {Revelation 6:3-4} and just as Jesus foretold LOVE remains among us globally and everyone can testify! John 13:34-35

Christianity has nothing to do with these denomination thing it's either you are a Christian among God's modern day servants or you are hiding among pagans who have changed their label! 2Corinthians 11:14🙂

Believe your pastor and ignore the other!😟

JibolaUsman:
I'm not arguing with you
you're the one coming to my Topic to comment
I dey my house je je.

It's OK as true Christians we don't insult people no matter how they disagree with our faith instead we speak humbly and respectfully with everyone:

But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect. 1Peter 3:15

So please i tender an apology if my posts annoy you i was only speaking out my conviction regarding the topic of discussion.

Goodbye Sir!

JibolaUsman:
Why will it stop ? If we are still preaching in the name of Jesus Christ through God and that has not stopped why will miracles also stop ?
You seem to think miracles are something great when miracles are a dime a dozen .

It's OK if you still see supernatural signs happening in your religion there is no need to argue about it that's why churches differs.

JibolaUsman:
Keep on Quoting the Bible and bending it to fit your erroneous beliefs

Well i believe Jesus performed miracles in the first century and i also believe he will do more than what he did when God's Kingdom comes.

I think we are on the same page with this the slight difference is you believe what the first century disciples of Christ experienced back then should continue until now while i believe it's no longer happening like that until when God's Kingdom comes.

Whichever way i wish you well with your faith.

May you have peace!

JibolaUsman:
The reason why it is hard for the rich man to enter the kingdom of God is because he is too full of himself to listen and Change. You're clearly a Jehovah witness. To full of their doctrine to believe in the doctrine of The Bible.

Well the Bible teaches that there is a reason why first century Jews need to witness miracles!

Miracles and Magic are related because both involves supernatural acts the ones that happened in Israel is called miracles while supernatural acts also occur in other lands but called magic.

So in all traditions people experienced supernatural acts in the past not only with the God of Israel.

That is why you need to ask a question:

What is the essence of rating the Bible's supernatural acts above the one's that has been happening in other lands?

Well it's because the Bible God promised a lot of things about His kingdom which is to come. He promised to raise the dead, to cure all manners of sickness, make the lame walk, unstop the hears of the deaf, make the dumb speak and make all natural forces work for the good of His worshipers all these He said He will do when His kingdom come.

So by the time Jesus walked the earth and few Jews noticed his preaching and teaching they want to know more about God's Kingdom which they've heard a lot about in the past that is why Jesus began performing those things right in their presence for them to believe and take the message (Good News) to all the nations.

Throughout the world people have heard about supernatural acts and no one can deny that fact but there is no God like the God of Israel who promised to restore perfect peace on planet earth! Psalms 37:9-11

Those first century Jews need to witness these things so they could take the news to the most distant part of the earth {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} not that they will continue healing people just like that.

That's why Paul told them that such supernatural acts will stop when God's word is complete {1Corinthans 13:8-10} and only love which Jesus promised {John 13:34-35}will remain as sign of the true God in the midst of His worshipers! 1Corinthans 13:13 compare to 1John 4:8

Thank you!

JibolaUsman:
So her belief in Jesus made the Miracle possible?

Of course that's what the first century disciples of Christ enjoyed for decades until it no longer happened like that anymore otherwise Timothy also believe in Jesus Christ yet he wasn't cure of his sickness!🤔

JibolaUsman:
Why does Jesus say " thy faith has made you whole ? "

Because she believe in Jesus.

JibolaUsman:
Did the Roman not perform the miracle ?

NO!
Jesus did. Because it's by coming to Jesus that he revealed that blessing just as the woman with the flow of blood didn't need Jesus to talk or say a word but all she thought was to touch the fringes of his garment and she was healed miraculously! Luke 8:43-48

Deepspirituals:
The other Fellow Believers that have houses , cars and other Essential things of Life that that are ever ready to be used by the Believers that doesn't have them ...They had all those things as a results of Hard Work not As a results of Righteousness,Or aftermath of Having Sought for God's Kingdom First.

We all lack one thing or another in this system of things that's why we use everything together as one happy family. That's what Jesus meant.

Deepspirituals:
Secondly Sir ..You mentioned that The other things are Spiritual ..from Your Enlightenment View ..It means Everything...The Kingdom of God ,His Righteousness and other things has nothing to do with this Present World at all.... It's all about The Making Heaves and Inheriting the Earth Later after this Present World ..
Are these Analysis Right ?

They are spiritual in the sense that one shouldn't think of accumulating it all as our brothers have one thing or another that we need so if my brother has one thing that i lack it's to my advantage because i can always make use of it just as Jesus did in those verses!

JibolaUsman:
I said a Non Jew Performed a Miracle in the Roman soldier with the sick son who told Jesus not to bother coming to his house.

Why did he go to Jesus if he could heal his son on his own?🤔

cornelboy:
What should we do with this?

He wants the government (that needs the support of these religious leaders) to stop their activities!

https://www.nairaland.com/8593376/imperative-need-clean-up-religious#138027180

That's why you should be grateful all the time that you believe the Bible because it was clear to Pontius Pilate that Jesus was innocent yet he sentenced Jesus to death.

Why?

Because he must please the RELIGIOUS LEADERS who can create tension that'll lead to Pilate's removal as governor! John 19:12🙂

Dey play!
Who will organize voters during election?
Who will direct voters to God's choice among the candidates?

Ọmọ your democratic rulers needs this people much more than you so your grievances against them is like a joke!😟

KBdownloads:
This doesn't address Isaiah 45:7. The verse says God creates evil, not that evil resulted from human sin. If evil came from Adam's sin, then God didn't create it, humans did. But the verse explicitly says God creates evil. So which is it?

You missed a verse in the Bible:


God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day. ‭Genesis 1:31 NIV‬


Please where is the evil?
Is it within all the good things?

Of course God never created anything evil in the beginning.

So what are the evil God is referring to in the Bible book of Isaiah 45:7?

They are natural forces that could be harmful when misused.

I mentioned "FIRE" an accumulation of gasses, just this December fire consumed a lot of properties yet can we survive without using fire?

The answer is NO!

So God is telling Isaiah that He created this thing and so He could redirect it to do something totally different from what we knew it to be.
For instance the fire Nebuchadnezzar wanted to use to destroy Shadrach Meshak and Abednego turned to air conditioner while the same fire killed the strongest men in Babylon.

The import of this verse is to remind us that whatever evil thing we could be scared of they are all harmless to the Creator who made them all! Matthew 10:28🙂

JibolaUsman:
U may need to either consider getting deliverance or seeing a psychiatrist.

Exactly the same thing those people you are mocking will say to you for mocking their religious beliefs.

If you are mocking these people for the things they believe then you don't have to be abusive when someone tells you the bitter truth.

Supernatural gifts ended with the first century disciples of Christ that's why you can't find a single miracle performer today like them, towards the end of the first century miraculous signs began diminishing that's why Timothy a first century born again Christian wasn't healed miraculously but advised to go for MEDICATIONS! 1Timothy 5:23

May you have peace!🙂

steadygo:
If humans bring the evil on themselves then an all powerful God would be unjust to not allow the evil we have brought on ourselves to come to us.

He just love deceiving himself!🙂

Deepspirituals:
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Questions: Asking this questions not to open any door of Argument But need your Own Version of this ...IS GOOD THINGS OF THE PRESENT WORLD / LIFE ,HOUSE ,CAR, MONEY ,GOOD INVESTMENTS ,SOUND HEALTH NOT AMONG THE OTHER THINGS ?
IS IT NOT POSSIBLE FOR ONE WHO HAVE MET THE CONDITION YOU LISTED ABOVE TO HAVE THESE OTHER THINGS ?
THANKS.

Spiritual speaking the answer is NO!

All other things Jesus is referring to must start with his first century disciples so what are the other things they had apart from the privileged to rule with Christ {Matthew 19:28} and the blessings of eternal life? Matthew 19:29

Well there are many people who became believers through the preaching and teaching assignment Jesus gave his disciples so just as Jesus who had no donkey could use the donkey and house belonging to his disciples as if these things now belongs to him {Luke 19:32-35; Luke 22:10-11} the same applies to true believers, anywhere i go around the world today houses, cars and other essential things of life belonging to my fellow believers are mine because they are ever ready to let me use it just as Jesus and his first century disciples also used many things belonging to their fellow believers!🙂

dawnomike:
In as muxh as I am not a fan of her religion, going as far to threathen her and burn down her house is a unacceptable!!!

She is a stubborn woman!😟
When you are in Rome it's safe to do like the Romans.
She has overstayed her welcome in their community.
First of all her tongue shows she is not from Ilorin meaning she is not an indigene, secondly she knew what this people doesn't want in their community yet she goes ahead to build her shrine right in their midst!😟
Please let's be reasonable.
Do you think anyone could enter Israel during the time they were practicing what is written in the Mosaic laws to do what this woman did in their community?🤔
What most of us don't know is that it's only in a military regime that the rulers can do anything against those who did this thing because military doesn't need your votes to rule over you but as for democratic rulers ọmọ it's whatever the majority in that community decides that matters otherwise any political party will where a public office holder stands to condemn what they did to her shouldn't expect a single vote from that community.
That's the ugly side of politics most of you don't know!😟

KBdownloads:
So your answer to a direct biblical quote is to tell me to drink p*ison and go to hell?

You guys are hypocrites.
I responded and substantiated using scriptures to explain the meaning but did you respond to the biblical truth?

NO!

Instead you ignored and looked away as if you never saw to my post at all in the first instance!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
OK let's do as you ask!

After the first (original) sin happiness was taken away from the earth and what remains is a struggle to survive till we expire. That is why many became desperate opportunists doing whatever they can just to find a purpose for their existence leading to oppression, intimidation and persecution of the less privileged.

So despite all these God didn't just give up He kept sending obedient humans as prophets to warn or enlighten confused people in order to make them have a rethink regarding their ways of life.

But many have become vicious even to the point of hurting God's servants that is what scares Isaiah the prophet knowing the stiff-necked people he was sent to deliver God's message to.

That is why God told Isaiah saying:

I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things. Isaiah 45:7

What is the import of this verse?

God is telling His loyal servant not to be afraid of either darkness or light because He created both so He can make them work to the advantage of His loyal servants while those planning to hurt them will be frustrated. Think of how God made the sun not to give it's light to Egyptians for three consecutive days yet in other places they are enjoying the day light {Exodus 10:22-23} this same God made the sun to stand still for more than the time it used to be during the days of Gideon.Joshua 10:12-13

What about peace and calamity?

Think of how useful water is to life. Can we survive without water? Well water is the most important asset to life yet it's this same Water God used to destroy evildoers in the days of Noah.
OK what about fire?
Of course that is the most destructive thing we humans could think of in fact scientists said it comprises of different gases but what did this God changed fire to?
Do you remember Shadrach, Meshak and Abednego?
Well this God turned the most heated fire into air-conditioner for His loyal servants while the same fire killed Nebuchadnezzar's strongest men!😟

So when you read God's word please ask for the import of what you are reading otherwise you will misconstrue the message.

May you have peace!🙂