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DeepSight:
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I have educated you on what is translated as only begotten and it does not mean what you claim here.

MaxInDHouse:
We don't force this on anyone if you are not in agreement with this it's OK you are free to pitch your tent with those who agree with you!🙂

QuinQ:
So begotten means created? Wow! So why not just say created. Also when God said "let is make man...", why didn't he just say "make man in our image...". Proving he wasn't giving orders to someone. Also Psalm 33:9 made clear He spoke the world into existence, not through orders: "For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it appeared". Na wa for this your theology o.

DeepSight:
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Holy Moses!
Gentle me?

DeepSight:
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I always seek to force people to study and do better.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

sonmvayina:
exactly, it worked then, why now?

DeepSight:
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But as a non-Trinitarian you really should not be too worried about the subject. Because Jesus being a son of God is not really a contradiction for you. It is only a contradiction for Trinitarians.

DeepSight:
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I always seek to force people to study and do better.

MaxInDHouse:
The word "BEGOTTEN" means born or come to existence in a special way!

Jesus is the one and only creature made by God directly but all other creatures exists through God's orders carried out by Jesus.

That's why the Bible book of Genesis keeps repeating God's orders to someone beside God during the creation of other things! John 1:2

“Let there be light.” Genesis 1:3

“Let there be an expanse between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters and the waters.” Genesis 1:6

“Let the waters under the heavens be collected together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” Genesis 1:9

“Let the earth cause grass to sprout, seed-bearing plants and fruit trees according to their kinds, yielding fruit along with seed on the earth.” Genesis 1: 11

“Let there be luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and the night, and they will serve as signs for seasons and for days and years.  They will serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.” Genesis 1:14-15

“Let the waters swarm with living creatures, and let flying creatures fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” Genesis 1:20

“Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds, domestic animals and creeping animals and wild animals of the earth according to their kinds.” Genesis 1:24

“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:26

These are instructions or orders given to someone who is working beside God as a master craftsman {Proverbs 8:30} this is the person God first created as His first work {Proverbs 8:22} and the first born of all creation! Colossians 1:15

DeepSight:
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"Only begotten" is actually translated from "monogenes" which means unique or one of its kind.

That is the argument you should use.

Go school, I nor gree. Go school, no, Watchtower is enough for me.

DeepSight:
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Along with Satan, according to Job 1:6.

QuinQ:
If He was created why is He said to be begotten not created??

QuinQ:
We now know for certain that sonmvayina is musicwriter!
It is hard to camouflage who you are on Nairaland. Hard to hide your "voice"!😅

QuinQ:
Maybe he is musicwriter

QuinQ:
I just want you to articulate the difference between your belief and that of Trinitarians.

Disinfectant123:
Sometimes I really question christians with their "logic"

DeepSight:
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I have since solved it. All the beings in Job 1:6 were sons of God including Satan.
So how is Jesus the only begotten one.

Disinfectant123:
Ah the excuses.

DeepSight:
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What's the problem. Surely you know JWs don't condemn alcohol, only the abuse of it.
Men!
You guys are unbelievable in your rose tinted glasses.
Job 1:6 remains evidence that Satan is also a begotten son of your Yahweh.
Bwahahahahahahhahahahhaha! Apologies to LordReed.

Disinfectant123:
howdoes this address my point

DeepSight:
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Don't be a kid.
I only asked if you were drinking.
I was and still am by the way.

DeepSight:
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All because you cant answer your own scripture.
Enjoy, you cant delete Job 1:6.

QuinQ:
Of course I do. Now answer my questions

QuinQ:
Begotten by whom? When? Ask your supervisor elder

QuinQ:
Begotten by whom? When? Ask your supervisor elder

DeepSight:
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Good excuse.
The scripture remains there to taunt you. It clearly says there were other sons of God and even Satan was one of them.
Enjoy yourself as to how God begat them.

QuinQ:
Can you explain "begotten son"? Begotten by who

DeepSight:
I repeat - how are they sons of God if not begotten by God?

DeepSight:
I hope you are not drinking.
How are those other beings sons of God if they are not begotten by God?

DeepSight:
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​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)
Who were these other sons if Jesus is the only one?

DeepSight:
1. Whose son are you
2. Who are those referred to as the sons of God in the book of Job.

QuinQ:
Testimonial from all over about what same Jesus is doing - samr Jesus that never existed!

Disinfectant123:
Wdym "How"
Isnt he all powerful?