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MightySparrow:
Is this a New Light? You have claimed here severally that the era of miracles are gone with the apostles

Of course Jehovah doesn't give anyone such power today that doesn't mean Jehovah has stopped doing the needful when necessary.
So try to get the sense of what someone says not just running to a wrong conclusion and speculating what you never heard them say.

lawani:
Being indoctrinated can make you do bad things. People who stoned Deborah in Nigeria to death were indoctrinated. People who detonate bombs to kill themselves and others were indoctrinated. Only people who are very mature in spirit are free from indoctrination. Politicians use religion, I agree and that is the more reason religion should be eradicated. Before religion was invented, they had to look for other tools

Indoctrination will forever remain until God wipe out false religions but as long as politics is concerned killing of innocent people will continue.
Deborah was stoned to death by zombies who thought they were fighting for God but in reality they are fighting for those ruling over them.
If you are truly educated you should know that judgement is to come from those in authority not mob actions that is why none of those who killed the girl could come out publicly to declare he or she did because the authorities will take him or her in for questioning but is that the case with executioners authorized by the government?
The answer is NO.
If a thief is caught a mob may decide to kill and burn the thief at the stake but can anyone come out openly to declare he or she is part of those who killed the thief?
NO!
Because that's jungle justice.
In fact many Muslims condemned the act while indoctrinated ones don't know where to stand.
So there is false religion which blinds people into doing what they supposed not to do while there is true religion that has no side effects on either the adherents or none subscribers.

Your Ifá is behind the ritual killings of innocent people when they need human sacrifices, that's why they do orò at nights to fetch out olùwọ̀ (unfortunate souls) someone who found himself or herself in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If your Ifá is better than Christianity why do they practice human sacrifices till today?
I know they can't deny this because it's in the "odus" Ifá methodologies.

Is using humans for sacrifice not part of indoctrination?

Adam put the blame on God instead of admitting his blunder so God perform a miracle for the first time in the face of this couple, He made a cloth for them using animal skin then two angels from nowhere appeared with a sword turning itself speedily while the angels keep following Adam and Eve until both of them left the garden of Eden and the two angels with the turning sword in the middle stopped at the gate of Eden so that the couple had no further access into the garden!
When Adam and Eve began having children their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren were seeing the garden with the two angels and that turning sword in between stationed at the gate of the garden until the flood swept everything away.
So only Noah's children could tell their own generation about the garden and the two angels guarding the gate to Eden.
God has performed many more miracles to save His worshipers from the hands of Satan, demons and their human agents that's why miracles do happen not that we can just call God to start displaying His powers when it's not necessary.
In our modern times there are miracles that Jehovah performed in behalf of His Organized worshipers and just as it has always been such events are known only among His worshipers.
Jehovah is doing a lot today that makes us marvel He is like telling us:
"I am with you so you need not fear anyone" Isaiah 41:10
Many sceptics do anticipate miracles saying God should use it to convince them of His existence but has God ever done such just for spectacular display in time past?
Well let the Bible God's word enlighten us.
To be continued....

The Almighty God has given mankind all what we need to enjoy life on planet earth but after the fall of mankind in the garden of Eden a lot has happened that requires the intervention of God because Satan and his cohorts (demons) have seized the opportunity to live and rule among humans therefore with their presence only God's intervention can the righteous survive.
Satan and demons are supporting what they initiated with supernatural powers.
For instance there was no record of any miracles when Adam and Eve started as a couple but Satan used a snake as puppet to speak with Eve.
You can imagine the thoughts running in the mind of this woman as she heard an animal speak to her for the first time ever. She would start doubting what God told her and her husband:

“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.”

Please how can the couple truly have in subjection a creature that's wiser than them?

Who will tell Eve that what just happened has the backing of a supernatural force that's opposed to their life giver?

That's the first miracle ever happened in the face of Eve so when God's word said the woman was thoroughly deceived {1Timothy 2:14} we can grasp what really happened because Adam can't be fooled with miracles.
Why?
Because he knew how God miraculously created Eve using his rib and he himself spoke of it when he said:

“This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called Woman, Because from man she was taken" Genesis 2:23

The introduction of miracles to deceive humans first came from Satan {Revelations 12:7} that's why God must intervene otherwise the righteous can't survive with Satan and demons living on this planet with humans!

To be continued....

Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ~ OP

johnw47:
repeating something over and over again which has been answered by many is folly/foolishness.

You said you don't want to discuss or reason with me yet you keep quoting me and typing long epistles.
Well for your information i'm not reading what you typed if you really want to discuss with me i'm ready but if not then forget it i'm talking just as you're talking you're not ready to reason with me and i also am not interested in reading whatever you post!

Lucifyre:
Pls show me where i identified as an atheist.

OK so you don't even know the meaning of that word "ATHEIST"
Na wah o, and come to think of it you want to argue.

Please mention the name of your own God and what your God is doing if you're not an atheist?

Ọmọ an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any deity but you guys don't even know the meaning of that word "BELIEVE" it means "TRUST" so if you don't trust any God where do you belong?

The gathering of Holy Ones where people are spiritually secured!

Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord?
~ Tolu Ilori

Omoawoke:
You are invited to my next thread loading… it would be centered on the atrocities of that demon called Jehovah
You are a good clown…. At least you keep it entertaining…
Stay tune.

Not to us, O Jehovah, not to us, But to your name give glory Because of your loyal love and your faithfulness. Why should the nations say: “Where is their God?” Our God is in the heavens; He does whatever he pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands.  A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them. Psalms 115:1-8
I hold onto your last comment on what i did on this thread:

Omoawoke:
You won! Your evidences, arguments were 100% convincing, they are all pure facts and understandable

Here's a comments from someone who once felt cold towards Jehovah like you:

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Here are comments from your fellow atheists:

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

So the next thing you can do now is to call those who are criticizing Jehovah to tell us the names of their Gods and where is their Gods when Jehovah was doing all these things!

Gabrielshow24:
Not surprised, after your endless defeats, you tend to quote me out of spite🤔. It shows I am doing an excellent job in decimating your pathetic doctrines!
Maybe,🤔 if your doctrines were fool-proof you won't have these issues!
Doctrines from the pit of Hell! 🤧

Olódo!
Is this about doctrine?
Ọmọ you have shown in that comment that you don't believe in God at all because if you do you won't say such a thing.
For your information God's servants don't perform the same miracles all the time miracles occurred based on necessity not for display!

Gabrielshow24:
Wetin be your own problem 🧐.
I no count you as christian🤨!
Leave the conversation to true believers 😁.
The aim of my message was to point out that a lot of modern day xtians are "shallow" but as usual, you go dey yarn off point!

You are not a Christian in anyway.
Look at the commentator above he makes sense much more than you even though he doesn't believe in the Bible he said if you need fire to burn something all you should do is get petrol and a lighter but you disguised atheist want to see what the Bible said happened back then before you can believe it actually occurred.
So in what way are you a believer if you don't know that God's servants perform miracles on needs not for display?

Omoawoke:
Now that I said you have won, you won’t keep shut and carry your shame away…
lol…
I actually feel you have a mental problem, and I hope you find the help you deserve…
But, you won! Your evidences, arguments were 100% convincing, they are all pure facts and understandable 😝

Mental problem?
Well once beaten twice shy!

Omoawoke:
I said you’ve won!
🏅
Congratulations!

Next time be a good boy condemning what you can't find a better replacement for is stupidity!

Truthseeker10:
Our Oga, are humans not suppose to have and display animalistic trait since they evolved from animals? What makes the qualities that you mentioned above to be either right or wrong, is there a scientific test on how we can determine that those traits are either good or bad?

He thought this will be easy!

lawani:
I aim to isolate Christianity and Islam because of the harm they do to humanity.

You can never ever make sense to sensible people because RELIGION is not the cause of violence but POLITICS.

Clown is comparing Jehovah's Witnesses to jihadists when the whole world knows that it's unthinkable for Jehovah's Witnesses to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:4

Omoawoke:
Lol
Okay you won! You did it…
Smh, I’m beginning to believe you are trolling…

Of course i must win that's what my God said about His worshipers:

No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah. Isaiah 54:17

You rise against Jehovah claiming He is evil and you never expected any servant of Jehovah to refute whatever you are saying against Him so when i came to the scene you thought your accusations is enough to silence all believers in Jehovah but you were shocked that i kept giving you reasons why Jehovah is justified.
You first tried lying but i mildly corrected you, you turned to insults i took it as a joke, you began using abusive speeches i remain tactful, you turned to curses i laughed it off and finally you thought emotionally blackmail will work until all failed that's why you started calling for arrest.
WHY?
Ọmọ because you've been beaten intellectually.
You can't condemn the acts of a deity as recorded when you turn a blind eye on the cause.
That's what shows how stupid you are.

Present the lifestyle of your hopeless, worthless, useless and helpless Ifá let the whole world see the God or tradition you've got that supercedes the Holy one of Israel: JEHOVAH!

Lucifyre:
Man how childish, desperate and shallow you have to be to continously save quotes and reference em each time ur back's against the wall. Same way you go digging into people's past posts. Quite pathetic, grow up man.

You're an atheist nah so you can't value reasonableness.
You said someone is low in IQ yet people from different schools of thought say otherwise.
That shows how daft you are!

Omoawoke:
All this to you is about winning?
And even at that, you failed…
I feel so sorry for you actually that I started trying to treat you nice… I was really trying to dig into your mind to understand if you were just joking or you were serious about this whole thing (a part of me still in denial that someone cannot be this low upstairs )
But nothing is impossible, we have all seen people risk it all for the dumbest of all things, people are still suicide bombers today because of the indoctrination they received, people that burnt Deborah still think they are justified… I not only feel sorry for you, I feel sorry for the world to have people of your likes existing on it… and there are so many of you… both Muslims and Christians, with your narrow mindset, gullible, low IQ…. And they become human weapons making the world a very terrible place
Spits!
And that’s the very essence of this thread, to discusss that “RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD “ Christians and Muslims to be specific

You can cry and cry and cry for loosing it when you think you've figured out all that has to do with faith in the God of Abraham.
You are in fact the most stupid and evil human on planet earth because you are here condemning the acts of ancient people but failed to face the present situation today.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses i know you are deaf to that but i will enlighten you and all your cohorts here.
Jehovah did all that in the past because that's the language of those people back then. Violence is what they understand not peace otherwise you can't be foolish enough to wait hoping to fight with the people whose God single handedly rescued millions of slaves from the hand of the world's most powerful nation.
At that same time Rahab a prostitute in Jericho used her senses just like the Gibeonites did and they were saved for being wise.

So those destroyed deserved to die!

You want to justify useless, worthless, hopeless Ifá that nobody could say exactly how this wicked demon lived all because you read about how Jehovah dealt with evil people in ancient times.

You must be the worstest clown ever on the surface of this planet.

Ṣíọ̀!

Sand2022:
Who created this thread ? There is a problem with the title. Apostates in the gathering of holy ones.
MaxinDhouse, you're technically not part of the holy ones. Many congregations, if not all, there is no single holy one in this area.

Of course i'm not one of the Holy Ones but i'm OBEDIENT to them as Christ said i should {Matthews 25:40} but when i see guests entering yet criticizing them i wonder why not go and pitch your tent elsewhere since you don't believe they are holy?

Ọrùn iṣu l'àparò ń kú sí.

Apostates no fit organized themselves for worship o!

Why duty to Caesar negates duty to God?

Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord? ~OP

Knowledge they say is power and power is the ability to do work, that is if you guys haven't updated the definition.

So upon all the knowledge you people have accumulated what do you have that those without such knowledge doesn't have?

As a believer in God's word i can speak boldly about my faith anywhere and at anytime before anybody.
I now have brothers, sisters and families throughout the earth because we share the same line of thought. John 17:22
We have all vowed never to raise weapons against anyone {Isaiah 2:2-4} because our God has taught us to know that supporting wars is taking side with the devil who has no reason other than killing and destroying lives! John 8:44

You are free to say whatever comes to your mind against any religion but never ever think you have what it takes to silence the WITNESSES of JEHOVAH the one and only true God! Isaiah 43:10; 54:17

Farewell!

Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord?

Lucifyre:
See who is talking about having a brain 🤣 Ironic

See what many have said about me:
Traditionalist

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Atheist

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Catholic

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Interested person

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Traditionalist

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Interested person

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Pentecostals

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Atheist

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

So it's after beaten all you guys through the power of reasoning that's paining your friend (Omoawoke) you people thought nobody could defend God's word the way i did.
Omoawoke tried insults it failed, he used abusive speeches it failed, he turned to curses i wasn't bothered he then switched to emotional blackmail after everything failed at last he felt this man should be arrested for defending the Bible.
If he's not a clown who are the policemen or politicians in power?
Are they not the same people claiming Christians and Muslims?
In fact they will beat him mercilessly after reading all what he has typed about their God and i will still be the one to plead on his behalf.

Omoawoke:
So you just said you will draw out a sword and slaughter a nursing baby…
Seun, please let’s find this guy and either luck him up forever in rehab or send him to jail… He shouldn’t be moving among sane humans. He’s a potential danger to the society

Funny clown!
So you can't differentiate between
"i will" and
"i would have"

If you don't have faith that doesn't mean you should bury your brain nah.

Do people still learn war today?
Is there any law that stipulates who they should kill during wars?

Ọmọ you are really a kid.

What occurred back then totally differs from what we have to today.

Back then people fight for lands in support of their human kings but only Yahweh demanded for a land by sending a warning signal to those occupying the land to vacate.

So if i was with the Israelites back then i will destroy anything on the way of pure worship.

I know you are pained with the way i rendered you silence showing that Yahweh has sound reasons for what He did back then.

Omoawoke:
So imagine if you had been in Israel at that time this happened,
And your were instructed to destroy completely, slaughter women, children and nursing babies…
Would you have done it back then…

Ọmọ that's what people back then does as in all the nations in fact Yahweh was merciful to have send a warning signal ahead.
People back then were fighting for lands as they support one king against another it's only Yahweh that reigns back then as a spirit King all other nations were fighting in support of kings who only rules them with no difference in the form of worship they all practiced.

So YES i will be among the Israelites doing God's will.
But if i happen to be an Egyptian or an inhabitant of Jericho or Amalek i will never fight in support of a human King for any reason whatsoever!

Omoawoke:
You haven’t answered the question
If yawheh appears to you now and tell you to go to a village in Ogun state where they are carrying sacrifices and doing ogun festivals… And told you to go there and kill everybody there and their children and babies? Would you do it?
As for me, there’s no way anything or anyone on earth can order to me to go slaughter babies with swords…. I will never do it… So answer, would you?

Instead of this aggression you need to calm down and think.
I told you the reason why Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy those nations on the promised land.
They weren't destroyed for whatever religion they practiced but stubborness to leave the land Yahweh gave Abraham for the establishment of pure worship.
Note that there was a nation that left and begged the Israelites for a space the Israelites gave them on the same promised land.
So it totally negates Yahweh's program for anyone or group of people to attack others for the sake of worship.
If anyone hears such today it's the voice of a demon because it has nothing to do with Yahweh's program!

@ Omoawoke.

Can you now tell us something we can all verify through records about Ọ̀rúnmìlà after all you disagree with Bible's explanation.

Omoawoke:

Even you should be laughing at what you wrote. You don finally kolo. This has become a comedy session

Leave it for interested persons who may like to know why Yahweh did what He needs to do for the establishment of pure worship.
So i'm not responding just for you o!