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You people don't know what you are all missing.
What do you think makes it easy for JWs globally to have a complete Bible each including our young ones who can read it?

Well Jesus said:

“But now let the one who has a money bag take it, likewise a food pouch, and let the one who has no SWORD sell his outer garment and buy one." Luke 22:36

Because of this God's organization made it a compulsion for each witness of Christ to have a complete Bible of his or her own.

How?

By voluntary contributions from wealthy members of God's organization Africans can have the best Bible in the whole wide world: Deluxe New World Translation without having to pay for the cost of production.

For your information the complete Bible is what Jesus is referring to as SWORD! Ephesians 6:17 compare to Hebrews 4:12

immaculatesense:
Okay sir.
Do you sell Bibles at JW?
Thanks.

Please walk into any kingdom Hall of JWs and ask for a Bible to study with us make sure you ask for the name of whoever demands payment from you.

Go now don't delay!

delkuf:
so you mean God will be having discussion with the devil like the case of job about who to touch and who not to touch. Is that not stupidity. My brother if you live in sin you are opening your live to sickness and affliction.

Ọmọ the case of Job shows that all faithful people will be TESTED by Satan {2Timothy 3:12} and it will surely affect their bodies the only three individuals Satan can't touch are Adam , Eve and Jesus.

WHY?

Because they were perfect unlike Adam's descendants who have inherited sin already {Romans 3:23; 5:12} so Satan has every right to touch whoever he wants to tempt you can only add to your problem when you live in sin but whether you live in sin or not Satan has every right to touch your body o!

immaculatesense:
1. It is true that tithing is not for believers and it is not necessary. I do not subscribe to it but I a church have members that pay tithe willfully without being coerced and the pastor uses the money for the people in the church and community, and not for himself, then I can't call such a pastor, thief.

He is a thief!
Whatever he is using it for is worthless if the payer feels he is obeying the law of tithe.
Saul was ordered to destroy the whole of Amalek but he preserved some things claiming he wants to use it to the glory of God if God rejected Saul for such then there is no reason why all so called pastors shouldn't tell their members that tithe is no longer Christian practice! Hebrews 7:5-12

immaculatesense:
2. He sold books he wrote? I don't have issues with selling books or other materials. They are not salvation. At least churches sell printed Bibles and even bookshops sell Bibles too.
I don't know maybe in JW you share Bibles for free. But I may have issues with his topic and what is the detail of what he wrote in the book. But I can't judge the book that I have not read. That will not be just and that is not what the scriptures taught me.Thanks.

Advertising the books in Christ's name is the CRIME, anyone can become an author writing interesting articles but don't attach it to Christ that's unchristian!

psucc:
So what they did was sold to other preachers? Everyone saw or knows what they did -preach the Word. They didn't sell? Take your marketing strategy off the Church. You cannot add a soul to the Church. It's the Spirit of God that does that.

Ken4Christ:
JW doctrines has damaged your brain and keep you blind. Your brain will reset when you see yourself in hell.

Hell is common grave of mankind Adam, Eve, Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and Elijah are all in Hell so stop deceiving yourself!

Ken4Christ:
I am a gift to the body of Christ.

Please which church is the body of Christ?
Don't tell me it's countless religions who are contradicting themselves o!

delkuf:
the case of job was an exception. It was God allowing the devil to tempt Job. And I can never study with your occultic group

So if God allowed Satan to touch Job what makes you feel you're different?
Or are you more righteous than Job?

Continue and die in your ignorance nah!

Ken4Christ:
You will perish in your ignorance.
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. The sense in which angels are called sons of God is not the same as that of Jesus.

You've perished already because Jesus is the only creature God made by Himself that's why he is rightly called the firstborn of all creation {Colossians 1:15} he is not God or the father! John 17:3

Ken4Christ:
So, selling information is now an offense. The Bible you have today, didn't buy it? What about the books you used in school?

Olèèèèèèè!
Thief!
The Bible is God's own word not man's so you can't compare God's word with the nonsense you wrote to gather gullible followers and start extorting money from them!

@ immaculate
See another poster here talking to your friend Ken:

psucc:
So what they did was sold to other preachers? Everyone saw or knows what they did -preach the Word. They didn't sell? Take your marketing strategy off the Church. You cannot add a soul to the Church. It's the Spirit of God that does that.

Please what does marketing his books has to do with God's congregation if he's not a THIEF?

StillDtruth:
That was why it was Written "the hour cometh
And clearly today, that hour has come as proven by their fruits.

Quote Bible guy QUOTE God's word not just saying things off head.

StillDtruth:
See Madness. You clearly have become a Mad pathological Liar. The thread proves that it is you who said it at 6:19am.

I know you're ashamed of yourself now so the next thing is to start looking for insults here and there but i will leave you with what God's word said at Hebrews 13:17

Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an account, so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you. ~NWT

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Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you. ~NIV‬

Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.~KJV

Are those words of MaxInDHouse or the word of God?

StillDtruth:
Did thou not hear that it is Written neither shall ye worship on this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem nor at redemption camp nor at assembly hall nor at church?

LIAR!

Quote scripture o!

True Christians worshiped in the upper chamber at Pentecost {Act 2:1-3} that is a sign God approved their meeting together {Hebrews 10:24-25} and God's blessings will be on all honest hearted attendees! Psalms 133:1-3

So if you're not joining any assembly of worshipers you are a confirmed atheist because that's the same reason they are running away from ORGANIZED WORSHIP!

immaculatesense:
Sure. If that is your context. Correct.
1. Jesus is the son of God
2. Angels are sons of God
3. Adam is the son of God
4. The righteous are sons of God and daughters of God. If that is what you mean. Then correct. That is the position found in scriptures. Thanks.

Whether you agree or not the fact remains that Jesus who is the firstborn of all creations is part of creation!

immaculatesense:
Okay sir. A thief must steal something. Sir, can you proof with evidence like you said you will what he had stolen?
Thanks

According to God's word tithing was instituted among ancient Israelites so that the system of worship will run smoothly since Levites weren't given any inheritance when they left Egypt.
But when Christianity was established the tithing cease because they weren't practicing the old system of worship again {Hebrews 7:5-12} this impostor keeps speaking against God's organized people because we teach people that tithe is unchristian practice.
Secondly he publish books and sell to people claiming how to increase members of the church which is unchristian because the church can only increase through adequate preaching and teaching of God's word anything aside from that is paganism but because he wants to extort money from people he keeps on advertising his useless books in the name of Jesus who said:

You received free, give free.

That makes him a confirmed thief!

immaculatesense:
Read my modified and read Hebrews 1:5.
Adam was also God's son in Luke 3:38. What about that, so we plenty because I am also a son of God if that is your context. Abi

All intelligent beings humans and angels are God's children the difference is some are spirit beings while we are human that doesn't change the fact that the first born of creation is part of creation.

immaculatesense:
If he called your organization cult, then he is also wrong and I hope he also apologize. But two wrong do not make a right. Thanks

Who cares for apology?
I can use the Bible to prove that he is a thief so let him prove that jw.org is a cult we will both use the Bible.
There's no need for apology if he truly feels jw.org is a cult group that's a welcome development but he needs to use the Bible to prove it while i use God's word to prove that he is a thief!

StillDtruth:
Mathew 7:16 has already answered this.

But you can't point to one at least just one which means you don't believe God is able to preserve His church!

StillDtruth:
See how you prove to be mad?
So Islam is Christianity shey?
Then did you not say "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you .."? did you say church leaders?

Chai see confirmed madness o!

Am i the one who said believers should be obedient to those taking the lead among them and be submissive or God's word?

Ọmọ you don dey Colo o!

StillDtruth:
That is why I said you were lying when you were trying to claim the little group in Matthew 28:20 was your Russell cooperative society. Oléeeee.
As you forget David Koresh's, Oyedepo, Ebuka followers also claimed the same thing.

Good!
So which is false and which is true?
Or are you of the opinion that there is no church of God where Christ is actively leading his people?

immaculatesense:
Max
Calling someone a thief is not civil and it is disrespectful. Please, retract the statement or apologize. Please.

He is a THIEF calling others Cult simply because we are teaching the truth that is jeopardizing his chances of extorting money from people.
If you don't see him as a thief that's your own opinion but from my own biblical perspective the guy is a thief!

immaculatesense:
Jesus is not one of the many sons. Jesus is the only son.

Wrong!
Only BEGOTTEN son which means he is the only creature that God made all by Himself.

StillDtruth:
So obey the Islamic bandits and submit to herdsmen for they keep watch over you...

See how you proved to be a demon?

So the church of God is Islamic bandits and herdsmen shey?

You're just empty yet arguing blindly.

REJECT: I was a Muslim before i rejected Islam after discovering the truth.

REBEL: I know God won't come down to lead his church so i must cooperate with those taking the lead failure to do this is a sign of rebellion not against humans but against God himself.

I know you are running away from the cited verses that's why i'm quoting them for everyone to see that you don't believe in the Bible God at all:

"Face-to-face I speak to him, openly, not by riddles; and the appearance of Jehovah is what he sees. Why, then, did you not fear to speak against my servant, against Moses?” Numbers 12:8

Perhaps Moses was perfect when those Israelites were rebelling against him!

delkuf:
It is only when you live in sin that the devil can touch you.

Study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses you will say NO.
Was Job living in sin before Satan touched him? Job 2:6-8
When you refuse to learn but insist that you want to teach this is the result!

StillDtruth:
It's ok to be rebellious to a church

"Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an account, so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you" Hebrews 13:17
See the big difference between your way of thinking and God's way. Proverbs 3:5
A faithful servant of God will reject false religion not rebel the two totally differs in meanings.

REJECT: turn away from such worship.

REBEL: kick against constituted authority

So if you are rebelling again the church is it humans you're rebelling against or the head who appointed imperfect humans to lead as his representatives? Ephesians 5:23

That's why everyone is MAD to you and not even one single person is found that is fitting to be your fellow believer.

Ken4Christ:
The differences between Jesus and us are:
1. Jesus is God but we are gods
2. Jesus is the one appointed to judge the dead and the living.

When God appointed David as king in Israel does that makes David another creature than man?
So when God appointed one of His sons in heaven as judge it doesn't change his being as one of God's sons to God Himself.
Pastor Piri get that into your empty skull!

cornelboy:
I would rather focus on what the bible teaches, rather than my imagination. If you believe Jesus is different person from the Father, how come Jesus is now the father?

He's just a thief using the old traditional way of threatening people to join religion (Hellfire)
Apart from that he knows nothing that is why he always feels bad when he notice how competent JWs are so since he can't back what he's saying with God's word his next comment is "you will burn in hell"
If Jesus is the father then who was Jesus praying to?
To whom was Jesus being loyal?
Was he praying to himself and loyal to himself?
Compare to the two artistic impressions below and see which one is the real Jesus!

Ken4Christ:
You just shot yourself at your feet by the scripture verse you quoted. Paul and Apollos did something before God added to the church. Please, don't get involved with what you are ignorant about.

Ole! Thief!
Paul and Apollos preached from house to house and in public squares just as Jesus taught his disciples not sitting down and publishing fake stories to woo worshipers.
It's the preaching that sinks into the minds of listeners and made them believers in God's word so Christianity back then is not about quantity rather it's about quality 90% of attendees at Christian meetings back then were all disciples who can preach and teach God's word not bench warmers.

MightySparrow:
Yet, no Muslim has answered my question: ' Allah sent Pharaoh a Muslim to annihilate Israel, the non - Muslim nation. At the red Sea Allah drowned his servant and saved his enemies. Why?

If you are practicing a false religion it's a problem because there will be lots and lots of questions you won't be able to answer no matter how bold you are.

Pharaoh became a Muslim after he was defeated by Jehovah not before then but as Islam doesn't know why believers in the same god should fight against one another no Muslim can explain why Pharaoh wants to attack fellow Muslims (as Muslims will call Moses and those with him)

Allah has nothing to say or do about his worshipers fighting and killing one another that's why Pharaoh (Muslim) could still be determined to kill Moses (Muslim)

Ken4Christ:
Let me give you a simple illustration. When you sleep at night, you see yourself in different places in the dream but your body is lying on the bed. Are you not the same person.

What about witches who are in their homes but are in different forms committing havoc? Are they not the same person?

What makes you think God cannot be in heaven and on earth at the same time?

You and this your hay fever dreams!

StillDtruth:
Off Point!
At least it is proven that you were lying when you were trying to claim the little group in Matthew 28:20 was your Russell cooperative society. Oléeeee.

For your information Russell and others are the Apostles of our time that's why they are able to organize disciples in all the earth teaching them to continue the work Jesus assigned to us without let up.

Oya mention the name of your own church let's hear what you've been doing apart from calling people names on Nairaland!

Gabrielshow24:
This is fallacious!!!
He was an "angel" because he was on an errand from his Father!!!

Not that he was part of a set of beings also coincidentally called "angels"👀

Your false equivocation is just too much!!!
If you so claim he was an angel while not tell us whether he was a cherub!
Or Perhaps a seraph!!!

OK Sir!