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Gabrielshow24:
The character development of Jesus alludes to the fact that a necessary War, at the very end, was fought to overcome an enemy.

There's no way you can snake your way out of the fact that "THE PRINCE OF PEACE FOUGHT A WAR".

This is just a logical device to make you see the error in your conclusion!!!

The Prince of Peace fought a war and that makes the order he gave to his followers invalid right?

Gabrielshow24:
Where do I belong? 👀
Enlighten me, O wise one!

You belong to the man who said:

“You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him" Matthew 5:38-39

And you are doing exactly what he said!

Gabrielshow24:
You act as if Peter didn't cut off an ear for the sake of Jesus.

This is part of the little things, I want you to see inorder to realize the error in your absolute statement!!!

YES!
Jesus COMMENDED Peter for that wise move! Matthew 26:52

Gabrielshow24:
Can't you see the literary device am using? 🤭
Now you are thinking!!!

YES! Now i can see where you belong!

Gabrielshow24:
Although Jesus' words still you have drawn a fallacious generalization and conclusion from it!!!

You should have told us who are supposed to obey what Jesus said and those who shouldn't nah!

Gabrielshow24:
situation arises where you have to fight for what you believe!!!
And what is Right!!!.

I wonder why this doesn't apply to Jesus' first century disciples!

Gabrielshow24:
Your words not mine😅😅😅.
Dismiss the authority of Jesus then I will concur with your standpoint 😁

My standpoint or Jesus' order?

Gabrielshow24:
Do you see the hypocrisy?

The same things you allude against were all done by the son of God. 🤕

He led a WAR against Satan and his host😁.

I don't see how you want to come out of this👀

So who are the Satan and his hosts that are killed in Russia and Ukraine today?

Your so called fellow believers in Christ?

Gabrielshow24:
It's your words not mine!!! 🤭

No wahala at least you know where you belong now!

Gabrielshow24:
At least Jesus is full of mercy yet he didn't spare his enemies 🤤 and ordered for their execution 🤔.

I love this!

So he shouldn't have told you to spare your own enemies {Luke 6:27-38} right?

Gabrielshow24:
"agree with his rules"
🤧Where have I heard that from?

Do you see how your conflations are embarrassing?

Who else do people faithless miscreants exterminate?
Their friends or those against their "rules" 🤕

People or Faithless miscreants?

Gabrielshow24:
Are you this daft?
Don't you know human actions are motivated by myriad of conditions? While still having elements of politics; you can't deny the underlying zeal for longevity of life(self defense). And that most of the time is the major premise of battles. You fight and lay down your life for what you love perhaps family, loved ones or just for the sake of your fundamental human rights.

Just say Jesus Christ is a bad commander because it's his command that his first century disciples obeyed to the cure which made Jews kill them like no man business.

So going by your opinion all of them were DAFT for taking orders from Jesus of Nazareth!

Gabrielshow24:
Do you see your hypocrisy? 🤦
Who else do people kill in battle?🤷🏾‍♂️

Jesus said about faithless people:

"Moreover, bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27

So it's those who don't agree with his rules that will be EXTERMINATED o!

Gabrielshow24:
Tell me the spiritual benefits of this?

Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. Look! The Devil will keep on throwing some of you into prison so that you may be fully put to the test, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown of life. Revelations 2:10

Let's see if you truly believe Jesus!

Gabrielshow24:
"THE PRINCE OF PEACE RODE A HORSE INTO BATTLE".

To kill his FAITHFUL FRIENDS right?

Gabrielshow24:
Check the christian population of south Korea or perhaps they are not JWs so they are faithless? 🤨

As long as they are not ready to abide by Jesus' command {John 15:12-15} they are not his friends he doesn't know them {Matthew 7:23} so i don't acknowledge them as my fellow believers in Christ!

Gabrielshow24:
That's why I said earlier; you that set the standard must live by the standard.

If you want to be ideal then go all the way!!!
But pray against circumstances that will turn your ideality to reality.

But am sure as long as you live, your very standard will be tested😁!!!

May you not live to see war or forceful/mandatory conscription!!!

That's why we need to build faith in what Christ taught not just claiming Christian without meditating on how to face the reality of what Jesus told his real disciples!

Matthew 10:34-39

Gabrielshow24:
A time back you said you had a logical reasoning to account for south Korea's mandatory military service which your original premise failed to account for!!!

Surely you misunderstood me!

I said i can help you gain the logical reason why Jesus commanded his disciples not to raise weapons against anyone in the name of dispute or war.

What concerns me with faithless people fighting and killing their neighbours?

Michael547:
Stop being mischievous....I have told you that self defense when necessary is different from joining the military and fighting for political interests. Oga which of the countries is God supporting In wars going on in the world today?

Ask him if the thief came as an enemy sent to come and kill or just to make money the hard way?

Sometimes i often thank Jehovah's Witnesses for helping me to acquire godly wisdom at least i know the difference between a thief who would have stolen what he wanted without having anything to do with me physically if he had the chance and a soldier ordered by some authority to attack me in the name of defending his country!

Kingsempires:
oga max you have not yet answered my question I didn't tell you to explain Matthew,mark, Luke and John. I said Romans 13 ?

Ask the below commentator why he said:

Gabrielshow24:
A wonderful speech that will only fuel the aggressor!!!

It's Paul not Jesus that's talking to Christians in Rome that's why i showed you how Paul got the inspiration

Michael547:
So what you are telling me now is that God is not on either side? Yes or no?

He is hiding from the truth but after reading the comment of a living faith he confessed:

Gabrielshow24:
A wonderful speech that will only fuel the aggressor!!!

What else do you expect from someone whose conscience is judging him?

Of course you can't expect him to admit openly that he's not been speaking for faith in Christ Jesus!

Michael547:
Oga are you telling me that God is not on either side of these countries that claim that they are right? Yes or no?

Wahala dey for OKOKO!

Gabrielshow24:
A wonderful speech that will only fuel the aggressor!!!

And who cares about what aggressors think! Matthew 10:28

Kingsempires:
please I want you to explain roman 13 for me

Jesus taught us to:

“Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” Matthew 22:21

Caesar means human authority demanding TAXES, TRIBUTES, HONOUR and FEAR from all those in their territory {Romans 13:7 compare to Matthew 5:41} but when they demand our whole soul devotion {Mark 12:29-30} we must say "NO Sir, that's God's properly" Act 4:19; 5:29

Christians were given a new COMMANDMENT by Christ Jesus that we must LOVE our fellow worshipers like he love us. John 13:34-35

Failure to do so means we are no longer Jesus' friends! John 15:12-15

So if you think of self defense remember what Jesus said about Love for your neighbour {Mark 12:31} and love for your fellow worshipers! John 13:34-35

That's why you can't hear of Christians in the first century fighting or killing rather they run away from trouble zone {Matthew 10:23} or surrender their lives for the law of Christ! Matthew 10:39

MindHacker9009:
Same goes with following Jesus Christ. If not where did Jesus Christ say to follow him one has to join an organisation like yours which has only five members in the governing body making all the decisions and no one can go and question them.

You're missing something here!

God promised the Israelites a New Covenant {Jeremiah 31:33} and those involved in this new covenant will gather people throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2} have an headquarter {Isaiah 2:3} then divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, stop the making buying selling and using of weapons, vow never to join military services! Isaiah 2:4

So if the Old Covenant you're advocating for is no longer WORKING why not look for the New Covenant?

AntiisIam:
Na question I asked you sufu, who are the business partners of Rusell

And i'm not interested in answering an abuser!

AntiisIam:
Wait bobo, shey your mumu never do nii

I don't have your time!

TenQ:
Remember where we started from
1. Your Jesus is an Angel
2. Your Holy Spirit is a mere force
I showed you by the scriptures that Jesus was no Angel
I showed you by the scriptures that the Holy Spirit is not just a force

Since the identity of the Omniscient , Omnipresent and Omnipotent God is not yours, then you are of the Antichrist!

Have a nice day please!
I am done with you on this!

Continue deceiving yourself!

Where are your fellow worshipers doing God's will today like first century disciples of Christ?

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

You can quote LETTERS by there is no SPIRIT in all your assertions because that's what WORKS not just quoting LETTERS with nothing to show for it! 2 Corinthians 3:6

MindHacker9009:
Who are they?

I am asking you because it's obvious that none of all those claiming JEWS today practice what Moses taught back then.

There is no Tabernacle where PRIESTS Unitedly, there is no stoning of law breakers in Israel, LGBTQ has been approved in Israel by Jews practicing Judaism.

So do you think there is any group of people still worshiping the God of Moses today?

AntiisIam:
How many men's business is occultist JW's?
Who are the original Christianity, hope OCCULTIST JW's isn't among?

Matthew 10:24-25

TenQ:
As if you responded just once to any of the scores of scriptures I presented to you.
What do I have to do with members of the synagogue of satan?
Rev 2:9:
"I know your works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but you are rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
Like Muslims, you claim to serve the God of Abraham, BUT your membership is of the synagogue of satan.
Sorry!

Just as real Satanists were accusing Jesus and his group calling them Satanists! Matthew 10:24-25

Simply because i showed you what you are doing wrong in the name of Jesus you are crying like this shey?

John 15:17-23