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Gabrielshow24:
Is this how narrow minded you are?
Is it only because of nationalism that wars are fought?

No matter what the order from out Master, Lord and King is "drop all weapons" there is no reason to fight and kill anyone that's why you can't point to any instance in the New testament where Christians fought wars!

Gabrielshow24:
Supreme okay?
what then is the yardstick of supreme?
🤨

The only PERSON to be WORSHIPED who will never worship anyone!

Michael547:
Just leave that guy alone. He doesn't have any point to justify why Christians should go to war. Just ignore him. He has nothing in him.

Nah one of those noisemakers claiming he has faith!

Gabrielshow24:
Very easy to say🫠
The same can be said of Jesus and his Angels in Revelation story arc👀

The order we received from Jesus is to leave judgment to him because he will bring heavenly armies to do that not humans!

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂.
I laugh.
Truth is universal so also Law.
But even in the Law there are special circumstances and cases!!!
I am alluding to the fact that your premise is fallacious and doesn't take reality into account.
Though there are semblance of truth in it but you have committed fallacy of accidents.
That's my contention!!!

You can run but you can't hide!

Jesus condemns raising weapons against either friends or foe so there is no excuse for believers in Christ to kill anyone claiming he or she is defending his nation instead what Jesus told his disciples to do when enemies come to attack Jerusalem is run away not fight in defense of their nation! Matthew 10:23

Gabrielshow24:
What caused the early christian sect wars!!!

Who are the early Christians that goes to war?

Jesus said:

“The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left." Matthew 13:24-25

When men were sleeping means all the first century disciples of Christ were SLEEPING IN DEATH that's when Satan planted WEEDS in the congregation {Matthew 13:38-40} so know today that anybody who leads or raise up weapons are AntiChrists Satan's agents not Christians!

Gabrielshow24:
Now you have added 😂 context 🫠.
Now you know that God is more of a title🤨!

Anyhow you put it the point remains that both Moses and Jesus were Gods and the scriptures say they are related due to that title but they are not the supreme being who doesn't worship anyone!

Michael547:
Oga you are funny.....you yourself have told us here that Jesus told his followers not to raise up arms. So what realities have changed that would make Jesus' disciples disobey such a command? Till now you not stated one reality and you want me to take you serious?

He's really funny going back and forth thinking he's smart instead of being straightforward like Jesus taught his disciples! Matthew 7:28-29

Gabrielshow24:
But you just mentioned Moses was God, Jesus was God🤔

Check your dictionary and see the different meanings of the title GOD both Moses and Jesus were Gods due to some aspects but when talking about the SUPREME BEING who doesn't worship anyone Moses and Jesus don't fit in because they both worshiped someone GREATER than them!

Gabrielshow24:
🤦Who taught you English?
That person should be shot!!!
Is that the theme of the message?

Ọmọ there are certain things that is of the flesh:

Now the works of the flesh are plainly seen, and they are SEXUAL IMMORALITY, UNCLEANNESS, BRAZEN CONDUCT, IDOLATRY, SPIRITISM, HOSTILITY, STRIFE, JEALOUSY, FITS of ANGER, DISSENSION S, DIVISIONS, SECTS, ENVY, DRUNKENNESS, WILD PARTIES, and things like these. I am forewarning you about these things, the same way I already warned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom. Galatians 5:19-21

People PRACTICING these things will not inherit God's Kingdom.

So true Christians are ready to lay down their lives instead of PRACTICING these things and making excuses!

Gabrielshow24:
What then is the yardstick for being God?

GOD is the SUPREME BEING One who is to be worshiped but who doesn't worship anyone!

Gabrielshow24:
The self same bible goes against adultery but yet there are physical circumstances that have sown people into adultery either through human trafficking, financial hardships.

So it's OK to become a PROSTITUTE because of circumstances people find themselves or ready to die instead of bringing shame on the name of their God? Matthew 10:39

Guy you're not chatting with a baby o, so speak up!

EmptyGarden:
While my mum was critically ill, just before her passing, she constantly talked about seeing her cousin that had died 15 years earlier.

That's what happens when the brain is working but our body is sleeping we call it "DREAMS"

Gabrielshow24:
Is this a reasonable conclusion from my exegesis above? 👀straw man fallacy won't help you. Your logical errors are clearly visible.

Jesus told his disciples:

"Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it" Matthew 10:39

This is why most of Jesus' disciples died in the hands of their enemies and no single person died due to DEFENSE of first century Christians.

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself!

Janosky:
The content of the Jehovah's witnesses's translation popularly known as the New Word Translation is actually to pass across the message of it's Author, Jehovah God.

Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors for their forgery of 1 John 5:7?


Sparrow & his crew are WAILING WAILERS desperate to bash JW's for his own self serving myopic interests.

His gods of men are selling their deities in a bottle for protection of their members (screenshot evidence).
Did Sparrow open any thread to bash & criticize that satanic practice of his leaders & mentors?
How many bottles for protection did Paul sell to believers?

Sparrow is inseparable from hypocrisy and IBERIBEISM.

Abeg ignore this old man, he's just seeking our attention!

Gabrielshow24:
🤦 Oversimplification, failed to take other contexts of Jesus' resurrection and visions of the apostles of Christ's Glorification

I am a Christian so i believe the same thing as his first century disciples.

What they believe about Jesus is that he was a PROPHET and son of God not GOD!

Gabrielshow24:
Also your false equivocation of my standpoint with that of the pharisees is it factual?

Gabrielshow24:
doctrinal freedoms you enjoy were the consequences of war.

Gabrielshow24:
if perhaps your country goes to war and you are forcefully conscripted then rebel against your nation by refusing to take up arms! Whatsoever you do then you MUST live by it.

I got you perfectly you don't believe in Jesus' orders!

We need to MEDITATE THOROUGHLY on the orders Jesus gave us so that we can be fully convinced that it's LOGICAL and the best thing to do instead of shying away from the truth.

So if anyone wants to know the sense behind Jesus' orders not to pick up weapons for defense of nations i can help you!

Beautiful!

Jehovah is great!

Pharisees in the first century also think like you are doing today, this is what they said about Jesus and those believing him:

Therefore, many of the Jews who had come to Mary and who saw what he did put faith in him, but some of them went off to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done. So the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered the Sanʹhe·drin together and said: “What are we to do, for this man performs many signs?  If we let him go on this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation”. John 11:45-48

The highlighted in blue is what they thought as Jesus was teaching people to LOVE and PRAY for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} so they concluded that if all Jews should become disciples of Jesus there will be no SOLDIERS to defend their nation when Roman armies attacks.

So faith is not what you think is working like humans do calculate rather it's relying on what God said even when it doesn't seem logical from human point of view! Hebrews 11:1, 6

JESUS

WAS God ✓

IS God x

Just like Moses who was empowered to act as God in Egypt with great miracles {Exodus 7:1} Jesus was also a God when he walked the earth! John 1:1

That is why Moses told the Israelites that GOD will send another prophet like him to Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18} apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus of Nazareth is that prophet Moses talked about! Act 3:22

Gabrielshow24:
Also your false equivocation of my standpoint with that of the pharisees is it factual?

Gabrielshow24:
doctrinal freedoms you enjoy were the consequences of war.

Gabrielshow24:
if perhaps your country goes to war and you are forcefully conscripted then rebel against your nation by refusing to take up arms! Whatsoever you do then you MUST live by it.

I got you perfectly you don't believe in Jesus' orders!

Gabrielshow24:
😅 you have no idea the spot you have put yourself, from your Jehovah witnesses' doctrine there are lots of Jesus' words and beliefs you do not obey. I am not that little to attack your character.
But any technically sane person knows you are hooked.
Back to the subject matter.
It's not about the leader, it's the idealogy.
Although the war was ingrained in both politics and religion.

Instead of shying away from truth why not mention one as in just one command of Jesus that Jehovah's Witnesses don't obey?

EmptyGarden:
This is actually true.

It's not true rather their brains are still working while they are dying slowly so it's information stored in their brains that keeps coming back.
For instance if someone has not been indoctrinated to believe in life after death he or she won't see anything when dying!

Gabrielshow24:
🤦You act as if everything is ideal.
The protestants that laid down their lives in battle what about them?

Laid down their lives.
How?
By obedience to what Jesus said @ Matthew 10:16 or picking up weapons in support of another leader who asked them to go killing and get killed?

Gabrielshow24:
"complete" is absolute!
Have you completely obeyed the son of God?

YES!

TenQ:
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

God is a Spirit. So you don't need seeing any object before obeying Him

Worship
In Spirit. The same line of thought no matter where they may be despite not visibly together in the same geographical location! John 17:22

In Truth.Align their thoughts with God's word! John 17:17

My spiritual family are Jehovah's Witnesses {Matthew 12:46-50} throughout the earth we are One in thought regarding terms and conditions of worship! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Who are your spiritual family with whom you worship in SPIRIT and TRUTH?

Gabrielshow24:
What aspects of ideality don't you understand?
You're committing fallacy of accidents and not taking into accounts lots of physical factors and circumstances!!!

Physical factors?
Circumstances?
What has these got to do with complete obedience to the son of God?

You are shying away from the TRUTH.

No wahala!

Gabrielshow24:
Truth being humanly subjective and both parties will always see themselves as being in the right.

So between this two which one should believers use to SET MATTERS STRAIGHT? 2Timothy 3:16-17

God's word: Bible
Or
Guns: Weapons of destruction?

Gabrielshow24:
And Is there any word or phrase in my previous write-ups that hinted on me saying God approved christian wars?

So going by what Jesus taught his disciples can a Christian be in the military?
If Yes for what purpose?
Whose orders will such ones take when going to war?
Will they take orders from Jesus who said:
"Keep away your weapons because those taking up weapons will perish by weapons" Matthew 26:52
Or from Politicians dragging territories?

TenQ:
You bore me sour as the Antichrist's representative. You still don't realise you speak like the Pharisees in your argument.
The god of this world has blinded your eyes and mind because you are infected with the demons of Jehovah's witnesses. Stop feigning to be of Jesus Christ. What has darkness got to do with Light?
Jesus spoke about your kind, the Tares in the midst of wheat. He says, .. let them grow together

Mat 13:28-30:
"He said to them, An enemy has done this. The servants said to him, Then do you want us to go and gather them up? But he said, No, lest while you gather up the darnel you also root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. And in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, First gather together the darnel and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my granary."

Your Jesus is an Angel called Michael but my Jesus is YHWH Your Holy Spirit is just a force, my Holy Spirit is YHWH.
The Light of Christ and your darkness cannot mix as your darkness has to disperse

Have a nice day!

Continue deceiving yourself!

Their hearts are troubled because the light of the world (Jehovah's Witnesses) have spoken so their conscience is disturbing them they're only trying to play safe because they know that Christmas is pagan festival but only Jehovah's Witnesses stood our ground on the matter as for Kumuyi or Olukoya It's only within their headquarters that they pretends their members are celebrating the pagan festival in their homes.
Check the screenshot below abeg what is happening?