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MightySparrow:
Hehehehe.
Usual rhetorics.
Take history texts and study the arguments.
The OP is as lazy as his post.

You idiot. I know you are so empty headed that instead of saying what you know it's me you will quote!

Have i ever had any previous conversation with you before this thread?

NO!

So since you claim you've been on the forum before then you should at least keep some manners not just throwing tantrums then aggressively demanding responses even when i keep telling you to calmly present what you have in mind one after the other.

Ọmọ people learn everyday so i have learned to address issues one after the other so other interested followers could know the response to each question.

So you've already concluded without listening to know if the person you want to chat with is no longer the type of person you thought.


Haba that's just too bad nah.

At least you should give people a benefit of doubt if truly you're sincere in whatever you do!

Chai!

I don't remember having anything to do with you so it's not you that i'm referencing rather those who already said Jesus never existed yet rushed in hailing you as if they're interested in Jesus.

You see why you need to be cautious?

Then allow others to find out instead of being so aggressive.

You came in with a greeting but within few minutes you became so aggressive as if we've been quarrelling with each other.

That's what inexperience does to young men like you, no matter what transpired between you and someone in the past since it's all about faith there's no reason trailing the person with aggression, i may decide to ignore you and your friends will that make you feel good?
No matter what you say i'm always cool with my beliefs so it's you that's boiling while i'm just chatting friendly with whoever comes my way!

That is what DOCTRINES is all about but then Jesus made it clear to us that if the doctrine is correct it will yield good fruit but if not it will produce routine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

So between the two which one has produced the fruit expected of Christ's disciples in our day?

The two questions we need to answer:

MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

Truvelisback:
The story is different from the one I am talking about.

Oya quote where it's found in God's word nah!

Straybullet:
They will only be content if I join their group...that will never happen Michael547 and MaxInDHouse

I am deleting all my comments on your thread.

Please format our names from your system after all your thread is not about our religion so let others claiming Christians come in to reason with you and your friends.

Truvelisback:
Why did Jesus refuse to heal the man's son?

According to the story did Jesus refused to heal the man's son?

Guy, try to learn, you only remember the story but what happened exactly you don't know in the Bible yet after showing you you're still poised for blind argument.

Jesus never hesitate to cure the man's child rather the man had issues concerning the use of Jesus' name to heal, in Matthews account of the same story the man first took his son to the Apostles who were just calling Jesus' name according to what he asked them to do even though most of them are still having doubts about their own leader that's what affected the man's child.

So when Jesus saw what happened he blamed both his disciples and the man (not the sick child) Jesus later told his disciples that their failure to heal the child is their own lack of faith:

“Lord, have mercy on my son, because he is an epileptic and is ill. He falls often into the fire and often into the water. I brought him to your disciples, but they could not cure him.” In reply Jesus said: “O faithless and twisted generation, how long must I continue with you? How long must I put up with you? Bring him here to me.” Then Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him, and the boy was cured from that hour. Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said: “Why could we not expel it?”  He said to them: “Because of your little faith. For truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard grain, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you" Matthew 17:15-20

So when Jesus said "lack of faith" he wasn't only talking about those needing cure but the nation of Israel as a whole including his own disciples:

"When Jesus heard that, he was amazed and said to those following him: “I tell you the truth, with no one in Israel have I found so great a faith" Matthew 8:10

Fididiguy:
In fact the difference between religion and spirit son is that religion will not see God in Jesus, they will much more ascribe Him to Mary rather than Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost
Is the same knowledge that reveals Jesus as God that also revealed that we are also sons of God
Now you will understand religion more, religion exists in old testament of the Bible using law, basically law of Moses, but there are other forms of religion that goes with or follow people that read both old and new testament to not accept the key message of Sonship in New testament and for this reason they fall short of the promise that makes the fulfillment of God promise in this life

So from your own point of view all religions claiming Church of Christ are OK as long as some individuals among them claims they are BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS right?

Techobeys:
This is not scriptural Mr. Max. I’ll appreciate if you don’t bring all that myths here. You can see people are attacking reasons here and not myths.
If you think devil is an angel, let him dwell in your mind and not on this thread. Thank you.

Well each person is entitled to his or her own opinion that's mine and i used it as teaching in my ministry so i'm not surprised that it differ from yours however keep up with whatever you believe so far its yielding fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

Cheers !

Aemmyjah:
Don't mind him

He himself drop a screenshot that Adam and Eve passed on sin to their descendants. This happened when they had no children yet meaning that all their future offspring are condemned to sin
A babe left on his own without proper guidance will do all sorts of badness
Our sinful nature incline us to do wrong

If you give a child of about 1 year a knife 🗡 and rest your head beside him. He'll keep stabbing it until blood gushes out and the person dies. People will not blame or prosecute the child cos he's INNOCENT

He has nothing meaningful to post on NL that act like one nagging wife around us...

How was the Memorial sir?
We were 340 in number

Awesome!
127 in attendance.

Truvelisback:
Haven't you red a situation where a man approached Jesus for a miracle or healing or deliverance or so and Jesus refused to answer the man because of his unbelief? The man started pleading that Jesus should help his unbelief.

NO!

It wasn't the man rather it's the man's son. Mark 19:24

That's another evidence that the sick person is not disturbing Jesus' ability to heal whether he believes or not!

Aemmyjah:
Could not means inability
Did not implies choice
We must demonstrate faith to receive God's help
What if Jesus sincerely chose to help someone who is faithless. Would his God's given power bounce back to him?

He taught Jesus needs faith from those who are sick.
Please what about Jairus daughter?
The widow's son?
The centurion who asked for help?
Did those healed have any faith in Jesus?

Truvelisback:
We are not talking about approach here, we are talking about faith. Jesus wanted to heal them but they didn't believe in Him. A person may approach you without believing. In some cases, Jesus would ask, ''Do you believe that I can do this?".

Of course it's about APPROACH because the Bible said:

"he laid his hand on them to cure them" Mark 6:5

Which is impossible if they never approached him!

Truvelisback:
But Jesus couldn't heal certain people in the Bible because of their faithlessness. What do you have to say?

That simply means they never approached him!

Faith is required on the part of something who needs something so you have to approach the person you want to help you.

Because Jesus grew up as a carpenter in their midst and they knew he wasn't educated in any of their Rabbinic schools so who ordained him?

That's why they refused to approach him but in the same place those that approached him were cured:

So he was not able to do any powerful work there except to lay his hands on a few sick people and cure them. Mark 6:5

Jesus often sends out the force to cure when there are many expecting to be healed he can't start touching each of them but in this case only few tried to see him so he laid his hands on them and cured them.

Your own pastors will still tell someone who left Ọ̀yọ́, Ògùn, Ọ̀ṣun, Òndó, Èkìtì, Ẹdó and so on to Lagos claiming they were not healed because they don't have faith.
Please what made them travel all the way to see these Yahoo big boys if not faith?

Emusan:
You're still repeating the same thing.

I educated you the last time even bringing your own organisation explanation about the two verses.

So, babies are INNOCENT they can't be enemies of God.

Even human knowledge demands that once you're declared INNOCENT by a competent court of law, no one can called you a criminal. How much more with that be with God?

For you to believe bables are INNOCENT and still believe that they are God's enemies shows something is wrong with your understanding.

Below are your organisation explanation.

Why are you not in one line of thought with your organisation?

Which organization told you that babies are enemies of God?

kingxsamz:
You're a Jehovah witness member. Most Christians don't even take you people seriously. 😂

That's the evidence of true Christianity!

“These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you" John 15:17-19

From the words of Jesus Christ are you seeing the sign or evidence of his true followers in the group that's vilified by all religionists? Matthew 5:11-12

That's why i said it's the level of your IQ.

Fididiguy:
The aim of living is not to live beyond death, we all going to see dead people, our dead dear one, the aim of living is to live accordingly to Christ, as Christlike, you will rise from death triumphantly to glory not to death again

This is what i'm saying!

If a question is asked interested Bible scholars will like to air their opinion but some just like looking for trouble when no one is pursuing them.

Thanks for your contribution!

MaxInDHouse:
There are many religions and in fact religion is as old as mankind on planet earth but with all the nations in ancient times being in one religion/form of worship or another everyone is saying "God is one"
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

This is why i told you to be PATIENT now you're speaking for the OP even when there's nothing like what you said in the OP.

Please learn to be respectful and patient it will really help you to go a long way in life!

Emusan:
The fact is, babies are INNOCENT and to be innocent is to be without sin

Look! I was born guilty of error, And my mother conceived me in sin. Psalms 51:5

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God Romans 3:23

With the above innocence is not an excuse!

PulsingPurple:
Lemme wait for the scholars too.

Good boy!

kingxsamz:
Christianity is the religion with the most confused set of adherents. I once saw a post on Twitter where someone said Catholics are not Christians and it had thousands of likes.
I wonder how Christians expect anyone to take them seriously when they can't even agree with eachother.

This shows the level of your IQ.

The word "CHRISTIANS" means followers of a young Jewish man called Jesus who claimed he is the CHRIST.

So instead of taking all religions claiming they're Christians as real Christians why not go through the thoughts, words and actions of the Christ as found written in the Bible?

I'm 100% sure that if you're to do the same with different instructions claiming engineering department you could have sort it out within few days so why not use the same approach?

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Emusan:
But you agreed with your gods that children are God's enemies.

So, if a Child is INNOCENT and can't know what SIN means.

Is an INNOCENT and someone who doesn't sin an enemy of God?

YES!
We are all born sinners {Romans 3:23; 5:12} but the OP is asking if a newly baby committed a sin that's what i explained that regarding commiting sin the baby is INNOCENT.

For more insight on INNOCENT and FAITHFUL read more on the below thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/7848261/difference-he-innocent-faithful

May you have PEACE!

Who is interested in the two questions?

I believe the coast is clear now as distractions has been settled! Proverbs 26:5

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