₦airaland Forum

djustice: Oloshi, oloriburuku, atohunrinwa somebody like you, calling me Ibo. My fingernail is more Lagosian than an Arokian Borgeh like you. Ara oke jatijati feeling funky. Omo ale like you from Iragbiji forming omo-onile in Lagos. Just wait. In 2015, we the indigenes will tell you the story of how you were brought to Lagos from your village on the back of a bolekaja.

Awa omo Eko, omo Epe, omo Badagry, omo Ikorodu, a mo'ra wa. Oo da nkankan mo. Oyi ma ko gbogbo eyin omo ilu oke oshi yi ni 2015 ni. Awon oloshi tan ni ki won wa jeun, ton wa ndi wa lowo mu.

You, dare to call me greedy? You interloping usurpers who have pushed us indigenes out of everything in our state, including our own civil service? You who steal our lands to build your fancy estates in Lekki corridor complete with golf courses? You who want to own everythung in sight including our roads, our taxes, even our blood?

Ko ni ra'gba fun iwo ati awon irankiran to ti nu won jade! Omo abirun lasan lasan! Ee damo to ba di 2015. Shameless gangsters posing as messiahs.

I have an Igbo friend who was born in Ibadan and grew up there. He is always exhibiting his yorubaness more than the Yorubas. He wants to belong so bad and so he defends Ibadan to an extremity that is quite repulsive. Your speech here does not make you a Yoruba. Remember, in Igboland language is the thread of identity. It is not so in Yorubaland. If you are indeed a Lagos indigene, which as far as your post record shows you are not, then you ought to question Igbo presence in Lagos. By virtue of DAWN and Lagos being a signatory, all Yorubas, whether Araoke or not, are citizens in Lagos.

[quote author=distribute inc.]My question is...who can fill the shoes of Fashola the great?
People of Lagos,we all want Lagos to be safer,bigger,with more development,but if the wrong leader comes on board,all the strides of Fashola will be let down,and there might be a downward spiral if the right hands are not on deck.
Please fellow Lagosians and Nairalanders,let us make suggestions here of how ACN and its leadership can select the best and most credible candidate to represent the party to contest for the next Lagos state Governorship election.
I think they should allow Fashola continue...for continuity and sustainabilty sake.
Who can fill this large shoes of Sir Fashola?
Fellow Nairalanders,Lagosians-we can do this.[/quote]You are a real estate businessman, you are not the ideal voice for a political rally of this magnitude. Yorubas are naturally progressive and our track record can prove that. So a call for a progressive leader to succeed Fashola in Lagos is mute and redundant.

What we need in Lagos at this point is a conservative. Whether APC win Lagos or not, Federal is going to APC and the power in the center is going back to the people to do what they want with their region. Therefore the rallying point ought to inject this projection into the succession talk. Western Region is coming back and Lagos will be its commercial capital, Ibadan will rise again to a new political glory.

In one of his published letters, I remember FFK saying in passing "....in fact my brother Orji Kalu just called me yesterday and we had a talk". This letter was published within hours after the said house was locked and then with the governors intervention, unlocked.

Why are owners of Lagos going to a Chief in Ife to plead their case in their adopted land? I dont get it

Okoro2015: What is there to respond when Odimegwu remains head of NPC? The fool who refused to recognise GEJ in a public function is now going behind closed doors, tail in between legs to beg GEJ not to expose them. Come 2016, Nigeria will have her first real census.

Yes, in 2016 we shall have a real census led by an appointee of the ruling APC.

Biafra diplomat: Honestly, I fail to get your point. Are you in all sincerity trying to compare Anambra with Ekiti or Jigawa et al? Then I ask in what aspect, is it in terms of education, Commerce, industry, level of development or what?
It baffles me when some of you who barely travel would come to the internet to misinform uninformed people, again using GDP as a criteria could be misleading especially in Nigeria were figures are apportioned and bastardized depending on who is at the helm, in the same vein, landmass and population are used to determine federal allocation to states which invariably is proportional to the budget of states and we all how these has been manipulated by the military to favor some.

It's only a blind man that would compare states like Ekiti, Jigawa, Ebonyi etc with Anambra.

I dont know what is hard to get, i repeatedly stated "political" settings/structure. Education, commerce, industrial development, these are all subtitles under the political stature of a state or region. Northerners were far less educated and developed than Southerners in the 60s but we were politically less stabilized than they were. InNgeria politics trumps everything else. For that reason my claim remains valid that Anambra citizens in their millions troop to Edo, Ekiti, Jigawa because these places are better promising when all the factors of stability and survival are put into consideration.

The number of universities you have, the numberof graduates tjey turn out per year, the rate of employment/unemployment, the spread of industry and market in your state/ region, all these social markers are irrelevant to introduce in your claim for parity when the survivability and sustainability of your citizens is dependent on other states outside alaigbo.

You will have parity when you are self sustainable and the negative perception of alaigbo is reversed in the minds of fellow Nigerians.

One would have thought that there would be mutual love and respect between Nigerians living in Benin Republic and indigenes of the neighbouring country, especially as they interact on a daily basis in their business and social lives.This is not so, however, going by Saturday PUNCH's investigation which revealed that there is a discreet hostility from the Béninoise to Nigerians living in their country.

Although Nigerians abound in the country -both as students or workers – there is usually an aggressive attitude once a Benin indigene realises that one is a Nigerian. The only people that seem to love Nigerians in the country are their females.A Nigerian businessman, Promise Nwadigos of Digos Worldwide Limited, told Saturday PUNCH that he visits Benin Republic regularly because of the nature of his business. According to the civil engineer, the men of Benin do not like Nigerians because their women easily fall in love with Nigerians. He also added that an average Benin man was lazy and expected his wife to be the breadwinner of the family.He said, "I come here every two weeks because of my car business and also, I import white cement from India and marbles too. It is cheaper to 'clear' the goods here than in Nigeria. Most young men that come here would want to live at ease."I'll prefer to date a girl from Benin Republic than a Nigerian girl because they do not ask for money. In a scenario where you would give a Nigerian girl N5,000 her, a Benin girl would rather you feed her, accommodate here and give her N1,000. Benin people are not rich. Most of them are low-income earners; so whatever happens here is mostly done by Nigerians."Nwadigos added that Béninoise girls like Nigerian men because they (Nigerian men) work very hard and take care of the women.He said, "They like Nigerian guys because we are hard working and decision makers. The women work the most here. Their men are the type of people that tie wrapper and wait for their women to bring food for them. An average Nigerian guy will work and want to impress his lady with his success. I know that some of the men here in Benin do not like Nigerians. For instance, if you take a cab and they find out you are a Nigerian, they are always aggressive, even with their bikes. "Their girls like us, they don't just like us because we are Nigerians, they like us because we are hard working, we know what we are doing and we are rich. They love us for our hard work. Most of their men here are taxi drivers and they do not go to school. Some are palm wine tappers, some sell bread. They live a useless life."

However, an estate agent in the country, Cena Rodrick, told Saturday PUNCH that Nwadigos claims were not true. [size=14pt] He stated that Béninoise men were hard working. He acknowledged that there was hostility towards Nigerians but said it was because some Béninoise have been swindled occasionally by Nigerians; especially the Igbos[/size].

Rodrick said, "My clients are strictly Nigerians because I socialise mostly with Nigerians. I have worked with them well. The kind of house an indigene of Benin would be interested in would not pay me as much as a Nigerian's apartment. [size=16pt]The reason why Benin Republic people are hostile towards Nigerians is because although there are different tribes like Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo, Benin people see all Nigerians as Igbo. Some Igbo people have come here to dupe Benin people. They work here and do a lot of bad things. So that is why we are wary of Nigerians and the cause of the hostility.[/size] Personally, I do not have any problems with Nigerians. It is not true that Benin men are lazy. We take care of our women, not the other way round.

"A nationalised Béninoise, Daniel Laleye, said that he had heard about the hostility but had no personal experience and was indifferent about it.A young man who refused to disclose his identity told Saturday PUNCH that the Beninoise also disliked Nigerians for economic reasons.According to him, some complain that the influx of Nigerians into their country has made the price of basic goods go up.He further stated that while seeking for jobs in the country, a firm would rather choose a Nigerian over a citizen of the country, even if the Béninoise had better qualifications. This, he said, was the reason they did not like Nigerians."They have this hatred for Nigerians. To start with, things are expensive here because of Nigerians. We are making things expensive for them. It might not be expensive to us because the exchange rate favours us but it pains them. Some Nigerians do not negotiate the price of goods and services here; they just pay.

The reasoning of these Benin people is that all Nigerians have money to waste. So they have this natural hatred for Nigerians," he said.For Ibro, an Okada rider in Cotonou, there are several reasons why Nigerians are despised in the country.Ibro said, "I am a native of Cotonou. I was born here, but I shuffle between here and Lagos. I came here to make money. I have lived in both communities. I even arrange girls for some Nigerians when they are around. I collect my cut when I do that. They pay good money for my services. However, it is true that there is hostility from Benin people. For example, some of the girls I have introduced to Nigerians on several occasions have complained to me that some of these Nigerians did not stick to their part of the deal."He complained about the way Nigerians treat his fellow citizens. He told Saturday PUNCH that the police too were not particularly fond of Nigerians because some Nigerians sometimes behaved like rascals, a behavior not permitted in the country.Ibro said, "The truth is there are several tribes in Cotonou. Most of the people in Cotonou are Egun people.

These Egun people are the ones that mostly travel to Nigeria and they are not happy the way Nigerians treat them. They are the ones that get menial jobs (like house helps) in Nigeria and they are not treated well. [size=14pt] Also, the police might not be particularly fond of Nigerians because when they come here, they forget that they are not in their country where anything goes. Here, we believe in order[/size]; so, if you misbehave, the police here will whisk you away. It is always advisable not to resist arrest because the police here are very fit physically; they are also very good runners."A woman who identified herself as Iya Bola corroborated Ibro's claims. She stated that because things were tough for her at a point, she allowed her daughter to go to Nigeria to get a job. When her daughter came back during Christmas season, she cried. Her14-year-old daughter came back with numerous scars and injuries.Iya Bola said that when her daughter told her what she went through, she regretted her decision.She said, "I for one cannot like a Nigerian because of what they have done to me. A friend of mine came to me and said she could get my daughter a job in Nigeria. Because of the way things were for me, I agreed. My child went for a year without me hearing a word from her.

Occasionally, I go to meet my friend to ask about my daughter and she always assured me my daughter was fine. In December, when I finally saw my child, I could not help but cry because of the injuries on her body. She explained to me that it was the worst one year of her life as she used to be flogged everyday by her Madam. Is it people like that I will like?"She said that no matter what her daughter must have done, she did not deserve to be treated like an animal. She said that such injury should be inflicted on thieves, not her innocent child and till date, she never allowed any of her children to come to Nigeria again.

It amazes me that Igbos are not outraged at this call by Kwankwaso and even no one at the political leadership in SE has given any response, formal or informal, in defense of Odimegwu.

First, is Odimegwu not a Nigerian?

Second, is it not an insult to Igbo nation that a governor is harassing this man and calling for his termination?

Third, doesn't Igbo own 50% of Kano, where Kwankwaso is governor?

Fourth, when are we going to hear Ohanaeze, MASSOB, Obi and Kalu demand apology and issue an ultimatum to Kwankwaso and Hausa people?

Fifth, judging by their response in Lagos, isnt it true that if Kwankwaso had been Fashola Igbos would have raised hell?

Sixth, judging by the silence here, is it not evident that Igbo have a morbid fear of offending Hausa and would rather suck up this humiliation than voice their grievance?

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true2god: I knw u r educated but u r very wrong to tell me dat edo is more developed dan enugu, ekiti is more than anambra, or Jigawa is more developed dan Imo. I knw u must be joking or u dnt travel outside lagos.

I grow up in Lagos, and aside from Lagos there is no any economically viable state in the south west. Remember that its only the south western states (aside lagos) in the south that took the FG to court over the offshore\onshore dichotomy on oil revenue sharing formula. They said they cant operate without enough oil revenue frm federation acct. The other south western states are poorer than south eastern states.


The pride of south west is lagos, ok?

You have a narrow understanding of what a regional development is. Let me broaden your mind.

You stated in beginning that your people troop out of the region into other places because of disparity in development. In crossing from SE to SW you are getting away from something and going to acquire something somewhere else.

There are many cultural and social comforts which you must give up when you migrate to another land. There are two interconnected reasons why your zone is not developed.
I alredy told you of the neglect by your leaders. The other is political.

Each region of this country has a character to it. The character in SE is that of a place where no one is interested in, a desolate place. In real terms, it is not desolate, Ive never been but Im sure SE has its own vibrancy, however, the perception does not accord to it any kind of warm character akin to what obtains in the places that you migrate to. So who is creating this perception? Nobody will run in the direction and settle in a land from which millions after millions of native owners, the Igbos, are running from. This pattern of movement therefore is a disincentive for government to invest itself in a relatively underpopulated zone.

In addition, Federal allocation of #50billion to, say, Anambra is by far a huge windfall when compared with the same #50billion to Ogun or Kaduna, in terms of its tangible equity, or to put it in technical terms, its "discretionary value".

Furthermore, in a regional arrangement, if Jigawa was in financial distress, its financial commitments can conveniently be subsidized by its sister states in NW. Same applies if Ekiti was on the brink of bankruptcy, its sister states in SW will rise up and finance its social debts and absorb its delinquencies and subsidize its needs. Same will be expected for Edo in SS, in fact one should not expect Edo to be in default considering the wealth in the region. These assumptions I just gave you if they were to occur today, the recovery for those three states will be true because this regional support network is already in place and been in practice on a smaller scale. It is hard to believe that if Anambra were to be in similar scenario, its regional sister states will come to its rescue. No data is needed to prove this. The hard facts of the inability of all 5 SE states to rescue itself from decay and neglect is enough testimony. If all together cannot act in concert to brin recovery and appeal to SE and are instead waiting on FG to do rescue, then it is valid to say insted of them stepping in witj a rescue, Anambra will be told to contact FG for its needs.

So when I say Ekiti, Jigawa, Edo are ahead of SE, I was thinking very broadly and far ahead into the politics of 2015 and beyond.

true2god: Ur response just got my attention. In the last 25yrs the population of Abuja is less than 200,000, but today its over 4million. Why? There is a lot of federal presense in Abuja, embassies and high commissions, ministries, etc. So its very natural for pple to move there to get a better life.

Until the FG stopped this skewed develpmental processes and balance it evenly, this issue will continue. I wont be surprised if gwari\hausa pple wake up one day and start 'deporting' non-indigenes frm abuja to go back to their states after billions of dollars niger-delta money has been used to set up infrastructures there. This is exactly wats happening in Lagos.

The over concentration of FG's presence in an area at the expense of others is the result of current Lagos crisis. If the FG dredge the onitsha and owerri inland port, make onne port an import processing zone (like lagos), built basic infratrutures in the east (just like lagos), there will be a natural migration.

This is where the Yorubas should play a role by pressuring the Fg to even social-econimic infrastrutural development acros the country.

Nigeria was under leadership of Igbo men from 1960 to 66. The Eastern regional government was under the command of Igbo men. What kind of development did you have in Igboland during this time? Even back then places like Calabar and Port Harcourt were more developed than Igbo territories. So with your leaders in position of authority both at national and regional levels, why was your land not developed?

The war ended in 1970. The war was fought to crush the rebellion, it was not a demolition war. Even though the human casualty was high the structures pre existing the war were for most part left intact. So whatever build-up you had before the war, should still be there and recoverable after the war.

Between 1970 till now we have had two Igbo VP. Could they not see that their land needed development? What was their contribution to the development of Igboland?

New States and geopolitical zones created long after the war are by today's scale far more developed and appealing than Igboland. These places have attained the growth because of the vision of their leaders. Example - Jigawa, Edo, Ekiti, Niger, Kogi, these four states are brand new starting from bottom up and they already surpass much of Igboland in terms of appeal for people to settle in, visit or work. Why is Igboland lagging behind these new starters? Its because your leaders do not believe it is their duty to develop and grow alaigbo, they are stuck in the victim sentiment and are holding FG in ransom to come in and turn their region into a paradise. If Jigawa, Kogi, Ekiti were waiting for FG they will never grow to the scale where they are now, and the leadership in these states continue to map new plans and grow areas to attract investment and diversity. Your leaders have indoctrinated in you the mentality that Nigeria and others in this country owe you something, that we owe you development and progress. I ask you, as leaders, what do they owe you. Moreover, your generation will be the leaders there in few years, what do you owe yourselves?

The leaders of other regions will not stop their own growth and progress on account of you, whether you are present or absent but they will challenge your presence when their progress is threatened by it. That is the reaction we have always heard in North and recently in SW. Your presence is questioned. You may individually be able to change your individual destiny but when it comes to your collective future this is a responsibility for the leadership, not the individual.

APC in power will return authority to the regions. What vision do your leaders have to tap early into this projected reality? You muat do for yourself before others can do for you. If you wait for others in Nigeria to do for you your land will never develop beyond its current state and ultimately your entire ethnic group may abandon the land for better appeal elsewhere like Ekiti, Jigawa, Edo, where the indigenes will continously detest and subject you to humiliation.

Challenge your leaders and put pressure on them to bring pride and greatness to your land. If they initiate some projects on their own and get it going perharps FG might approach to help complete it and add more.

Omexonomy: take a guess how much is lasu school fees a. 400thousand b. 500thousand

LASU is State University. If you enroll in a state university in US or Europe how much do you think it will cost?

Consider this my community service, a philantrophic effort to bring awareness and enlighten so we can all have a prospering city that we are proud of.

Are you aware that tax default and evasion carry jail sentence in Lagos?

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Go here and upate yourself on the news and information on what we are doing to make the State Great.

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Join hands with us to make Nigeria great and to return power back to the people and their humanity.

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Katsumoto: If you read the original article, you will observe that the major complaint by LASG is the unwillingness of the parts dealers to subject their body to LASG regulations. An unregulated body can be infiltrated by criminals who steal cars, break them up, and sell in the open market. This is not different from the security posed by unregulated abattoirs who may sell diseased meat to the general public. Since ATM's point was that the threat could be reported to the police, my response was that there should be no need for any regulations or regulated bodies since the ever efficient Nigerian Police Force is present to deal with any threats.

The issue many of you have is the understanding of what a security threat is. For instance, it was reported in the news recently, that an abattoir was discovered preparing unfit for consumption meat. If meat sellers refuse to abide by regulations or subject themselves to the appropriate body, how will such a body protect society from such threats?

When you say conflict, the Igbo mind drifts to war. When you mention compromise, their mind drifts to cowardice. When you mention industry, they equate it to trading fake spare parts. When you talk about capital infrastructure they immediately believe you are talking mansions.

I am not surprised at their equating safety and security concerns of a state govt with petty theft and bakassi cutlass wielding touts in ASPAMDA. If you ever wanted to know what is meant by arrested development, interact with an Igbo and you will right away discover the definition.

[quote author=St_Black]So has all this garbage explained why igbos would never think of developing their father's land?.....[/quote]Put the development aside for a minute. Why has Yoruba yielded so much of its birthright to a non Yoruba group? Whats Yoruba's problem? Please dont tell me we are accomodating and generous; thats over played. Tell me something else we have never heard before.

Movies like the one described by author are soft attempts through arts and cultural appreciation to build bridges between two opposite ends, in this case Yoruba and Igbo. This again, was a testament of the openess and welcoming goodwill of Yorubas to accept Igbos who everyone else rejects. We were slow coming to the full realization of who Igbo is.

We know now taking count of the various contact points of our interaction with them that we made a mistake. It is not late to bring about correction and review where we stand. It was never Yorubaonly, others are welcome as well. We have never opened up and promoted the interests and progress of any other tribe as fast and as broad as we did with Igbos. Yoruba has to come first now and in some instances, it will be Yoruba only.

This is the new reality, the movie was a reality of yesteryears and those conditions no longer prevail.

Igbo like to pride their hardworking nature as direct attribute of their success. Every Nigerian is hardworking. We can look to the failure in East and wonder why arent those Igbos left at home successful, if true that hardwork is an attribute of Igbo alone?

Too much friction and heat in this thread.

The brazeness of Igbo traders in Lagos has a color of coordination to it. Someone at the top, I suspect back home and in diaspora, is instructing their rebellion against the govt.

The belief that Yoruba is a coward and Igbo are warriors has circulated far and wide and to such a point it is no longer held as a myth, most believe it to be factual.

The concert here is that Yoruba is not Hausa and cannot do any significant harm to Igbo. These leaders see the appointment of Igbo sons into Lagos Govt cabinet as the result of pressure; in other words, continous defiance and confrontation with the govt by regular retailers and traders of Igbo stock on the street and at LG level is bringing in result by defeating the will of the people and psychologically resulting in concessions to Igbo, politically and economically. These actions benefit the retailers but also have a vertical effect on the career and positive recognition of the Igbo stock generally, whether in civil service or politics and as well the professions.

It is therefore imperative that the dirty and collission actions of the traders on the bottom be protected overtly by the contacts and visions of the elite Igbos.

This is a cellular coordination and mimics the exact same scheme of the 66 coup, where the elite incrementally eliminated others to plant and position their stock where they would not hsve otherwise been privileged to be.

This time we see it focused on Lagos and the retailers on the streets are in this case the coup plotters. They are up in arms colliding and defying the laws, while the elites are the motivators, cheering on and affirming the action on ground but also increasing the pressure on Yorubas and demanding that LASG must yield to the needs of Igbo.

What is their need?

Own the entire coast from Lagos to PHarcourt and rule all the Southern non-Igbos. This has always been their desire since 1914. It will remain their aspiration until they get it or something terrible is done to them to permanently convert them away from this silly ambition.