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RedboneSmith:(1) Before Afonja uprising what role did Ilorin play in history of Yorubaland? It was the cosmopolitan urban center of Yoruba Culture. The gateway into Yoruba. It was under the ruling authority of Alaafin. It was at a confluence of trade routes into Ashanti, Kordofan, Mali, Yauri, Kano, Nupe.... Naturally, Alaafin placed in there a tax collector.....but because it also housed spies and agents of enemy kingdoms it called for a military outpost as well. The Aare Ona Kakanfo used to domicile in Oyo. The ambitious expeditions of Aare was one too many and on the edge....reason he was relocated to Ilorin. Now, who were the people in Ilorin? Fulani was amongst the people It was predominantly Yoruba but others lived there as well....citizens of Baruba, Yauri, Tapa, Mali, Hausa and so on but Fulani was there as well. They were Islamic clerics and did not nurse the either of war against Oyo. Afonja was the one who warred against Oyo, he had warriors but not enough number to overrun Oyo...this is where Alimi came in. (2) The Ilorin warriors were led by Yorubas. They were trained the art of war strategies under the Eso but it just happened they were staged in Ilorin, and not in Oyo itself. (3) Specific to your referenced period, Ibadan was fighting wars with many different nations simultaneously. The army was stretched and the strategy was defense of Ibadan, not occupation of another land. So what gains were there for them in securing Ilorin? At that point in time, none! (4) in Jalumi war, which you left out, Ibadan succeeded in pushing Ilorin out completely and back to Ilorin. In hindsight they should have chased after them and complete their retreat out of Ilorin and to the other side of Niger, but that was not expedient at the time tue to their many campaigns against others. (5) Let's be proud of Ibadan and give credit in recognition of their valour. What stopped Ijesha, Ijebu, Egba, Offa and others from marching up to Ilorin to chase fulani out? Why does it have to be Ibadan fighting the enemy? Matter of fact while Ibadan was battling Ilorin, other Yoruba nations were battling Ibadan. The loss of Ilorin is a shame on Yoruba generally, not just Ibadan. (6) Ilorin never again dared Ibadan or any Yoruba town after Jalumi. In the aftermath and after Afonja had been killed, they created a political class to rule over them and the title was Oba of Ilorin. (7) The rule by proxy introduced by British did not respect history or ethnic, they pretty much were interested in heirarchy order and how to class that heirarchy for effective control and indirect rule of the grassroot. The heirarchy in Ilorin wore a turban, not a crown as Yoruba Obas do and so Ilorin was classed into turban wearing heirarchies. Similar thing happened in Epe. They needed to classify the ruler of the town and this led into dispute with Akarigbe of Remo. The British called Ooni to give judgement. If Yoruba had raised objection about the turban wearing Oba of Ilorin being grouoed with other turban wearing kings Ilorin title might have remained Oba. No one objected. The Northern Emirate changed the title from Oba to Emir. Ilorin, as at 1966, was the capital of North Western State. The Yorubas still had a chance to recover it and bring it back politically into a full Western State. The different political ambitions and complete raype of the country by successive military administration chipped away at references of Ilorin to West or Yoruba. ( Over the years attempts have been made to reverse the loss of Ilorin. The problem of regaining it lie within Yoruba itself. Governor Mohammed Alabi Lawal, former Governor of Kwara State was an opponent of the Emir of Ilorin. Yoruba knew this yet made no political moves to support and sustain the efforts of the Governor. In Moro Local Govt of Kwara State, where the town of Jebba is, there is an Oba. The Northerners do not want any Oba in Kwara and particularly that Adebara claims that as the longest reigning dynasty in Kwara, he is independent and should not be chaired by the Emir. Emir of Ilorin however wants to subdue the Oba crown under his domain and ultimately erase it. Jebba is North of Ilorin. Oba Adebara has been fighting this battle alone. What is Yoruba doing in support of Oba Adebara against to Sulu Gambari and the North? Few years ago OPC invaded Ilorin with the single action to raid the palace, depose the King and install an Oba. Along the route heading to Kwara their movement in such large number and convoy was suspected and the Police command in Ilorin was notified. When they got to border to Kwara they met tanks and battle ready army and police, they were denied entry into Kwara. No confrontation, they turned back. Early this year we got news that the Jebba bridge had collapsed. The link between North and South on the Western flank is that bridge crossing. All the traffic that passes through that bridge is a boost to economy of Jebba. The town is a resting spot for travellers. Without the bridge the economy will collapse. Travellers have been forced to reroute away from Jebba since the bridge went down. Did the bridge collapse, or was that an act of sabotage by pro Emir elements to destroy the economy of Jebba and shame the Oba? Now, we cannot count on Senate President Saraki, being a Senator from Kwara to see the economic impact to the different layers of production in the Supply and Distribution chain that use this bridge or the suffering their absence would bring on the community, because Olusola Saraki was one of those that plotted the downfall and ultimately the death of Governor Lawal. In fact Bukola Saraki was Governor and it is still believed in Ilorin till today that he and his fatjer had a hand in Governor Lawal's death. Saraki is an avid pro Emir, they are trying to destroy Jebba and erase its Yoruba link. The VP is Yoruba, Minister of Works is Yoruba....what actions are they taking to see to it that a new bridge is constructed and the economic lifeline of Jebba returns? That would be a victory for Oba Adedara to lift up his head and remain poised against Emir and his agents of hate. This Ilorin issue is a collective Yoruba challenge, not just Ibadan. Ibadan has done its part. |
RedboneSmith:If i say this to you... ....in the year of the locust attack, on first day of the second moon of the year, when Arewa disapeared from the night sky, the Alaafin was visited by a foreigner whose sojourn would later turn the history of Oyo around for ever.... Are you able to tell me the year, the month, the day and what Arewa is? More than likely not. You see, this is how the ancients kept record of time and events and passed it on. In our modernity we have lost that knowledge and because naturally the African is a spiritualist, our abilities in empirical science is dulled, and no one has taken time to study and recognize that oral history is accurate in dates....we are just lazy and wont make effort to translate their dating method to synch with our roman calendar. Not that i know the event and can match the date myself, but the point in my scenario is that this is how oral records are kept and we should not blame our ancestors or discredit them....we should blame ourselves for not making effort to merge our oral past with our modern realities. We are the couplers...and weve done really bad job of integration. In fact we have not integrated, we simply replaced. |
I heard that in few days ahead Afenifere is having a fraternal meeting with Ohanaeze to relive the Ironsi/Fajuyi assassination in July66 as an anchor for partnership between Yoruba and Ibo. What is the point? If Afenifere is looking for ways to dislodge APC from power they dont need to use Fajuyi's sacrifice in vain and a pretense of finding common ground with Ibo. Neither is it honorable to drag his memory in the mud to establish a pro-Ibo and an anti-North stance. Here is a list of Yorubas assassinated in Jan66. They were killed by the people Ohanaeze represent, the Ibos. CIVILIANS 1. Premier of Western Nigeria, Samuel Akintola. 2. Mrs Lateefat Ademulegun (pregnant) MILITARY 1. Brig. Samuel Ademulegun 2. Col. Ralph Sodeinde 3. Serg. Daramola Oyegoke In addition, Col. Victor Banjo was executed by Ojukwu. Yoruba lost six precious lives and a baby to Ibo carnage. Afenifere, can you as well use their names as pointers for finding common ground with Ibo in the way you are disrespecting Fajuyi name and dragging Yoruba pride in the mud? Let's see how much love and kisses you get in public for such a dare. If you cannot do it for Jan66, why for July66? What is your point? Thank you. |
sweerychick:How many non-igbo are commissioners or even head of service in Igboland? Pay attention, i did not say Yoruba, .....i said non-igbo! There are none! That says a lot! Dont respond back with bogus names....Mayor does not accept Ibo statemant on its face value, I fact-chect claims |
Radiocarbon dating itself is not conclusive and final on excavated archives. There is an element of assumption in radiocarbon methods. It is a protocol adopted for advancing theories....pending discovery of a more definite physical evidence to yield facts. Please let us be mindful and not supersede valid oral history with assumed calculations. |
RedboneSmith:Discuss it in full dimension if you must do so. Yoruba were already using guns to wage war in the years you mentioned. Yorubas were in the middle of Kiriji war when colonialists got hinterland of Yorubaland. One of the principal warriors was Ogedengbe and many of his pictures showed him with a musket. When British Navy attacked Lagos they were badly defeated twice. Yorubas used muskets and canons to defend Lagos and it was only on third attempt the foreign navy succeeded in victory, and that battle was hard-won, took over 24hrs. Yoruba had posessed guns through trade with Portuguese and Dutch. Iyalode of Egbaland was one of the frontline arms trader. If according to your storyline Britain was involved in mediating a war in the hinterland of Yorubaland, then it had to be after 1865....the bombardment of Lagos i described above occurred in 1850. If we could fight off British sailors in boats and over waters in 1850, what stopped us from decimating Fulani horseriders galloping in open view across the plains....or into dangerous terrains of the forest where tree canopies can aid our concealment and assist ambush with the lethal fire power of guns? Please reconstruct your story. I repeat, Fulani has no power of victory over Yorubaland, they owe gratitude to Afonja and his armies for their Emirate in Ilorin. |
Cyojunior:So if Ooni already said this in bold, then why are you wasting your time with an unproductive essay on who is supreme between the two? |
RedboneSmith:That is not accurate. Ibadan itself was a relocation into the forest, from an earlier geographical settlement in the open plains in higher latitude than Ilorin. Oyo Ile was geographically North of Ilorin, and they kept cavalry in Oyo Ile. There are no fulani fighting on the Yoruba side but there were Yoruba warriors on the Ilorin side. This is why we remind that it was not a jihadi that took Ilorin....rather it was act of rebellion by the Yorubas in outposts. Fulani would not have had a chance were there no Yoruba warriors pushing the front south into the territories. |
May God Almighty bring her recovery and place the daughter in peaceful rest. |
The fear of OPC is the beginning of Ibo brain reset. All the ezes from different areas pack into bus and went to bow down and dedicate to Aare a promise of good behavior of all ezes in Yorubaland. Dem no even wait for Aare to demand it....they volunteered on their own to fall under his rule. |
ArchangeLucifer:The caption really should be SE Govs endorse their Master, Buhari for second term as they look forward to 2023 when he is "expected" to hand over power to them. |
bamoski:Agbada is a wear across the savannah. All peoples of Savannah wear agbada, they wear kaftan and they wear buba. Yoruba is a member of Savannah Belt. Above Savannah you have Sahel Belt. In the Sahel they also wear agbada but in addition, they wear turban to insulate the head and face against the scorching heat of the Sun. Below Savannah you have Guinea or Coastal belt. People of the coast tie loin clothes. So agbada is worn in both Sahel, where Hausa is, and Savannah, where Yoruba is. |
ODVanguard:During investigation and Senate hearing of Stealer Oduah on bulletproof BMW, Maduka was found to have colluded with Ngozi Iweala using import waivers to defraud government. Each state of the federation have a number of import waivers allocated to them as privilege. Maduka colluded with Ngozi and used two waivers allocated to Lagos State, without the State authorization, to go around customs and bring in the two bulletproof vehicles. Lets not forget that Stealer Oduah told Senate that the two BMWs were gifted to her by the Ministry of Aviation. If this was true, why is a Federal Agency using a waiver that belongs to State to import a vehicle laundered through a non-bid purchase from a private seller? Did Ministry Aviation get Lagos State approval to use its waiver? This thief need to shut his mouth before we reopen the case and make him go to court to answer how came in posession of the waiver? |
nwabobo:How much does Maduka make in income to be paying that much tax? If he was in Anambra would he make half that income? |
lustychima:They will not listen to your message...but they will listen to whipping. God has made them to be eran iya! |
Hope you feel well. Im enjoying the thread. |
Tell Okorocha we want Oba Akiolu statue. |
Paretomaster:Every administration since 1999 Ibo come out and say the president will hand over power to them after he finish tenure. If you ask them to vote who everybody else in the country has chosen they will put their feet down stubbornly and say NO, and label that candidate all sorts of names. One small region wey be say you can travel through all its landlocked states in less than three hours go tell other five regions of mega landmass and thousands of kilometers of combined international boundary and political mastery that their candidate is a wrong choice. Then when that candidate wins, as its sure to happen, Ibo is the first visitor in Aso Rock asking to be given SFG position. Three years in they will start warning the rest of this country that this president they assaulted with negative labels is handing over to them after his tenure. I dont know if God was in the middle of a research and development exercise trying different brains and emotions when he created the Ibo specie. These specie are not of Adam and Eve stock at all. I promise you! ![]() |
Ordinary IPOB una no fit manage, na Nigeria una wan manage in 2023. We dey wait now, make God spare lives so we can put Fashola there to contest for Presidency. Una never sabi |
UAE123:Those who cannot differentiate truth from falsehood or law from ethics are often at a loss to raise point of defense when their own dignity is attacked with falsehood or their rights assaulted unjustifiably. Misau does not need to present evidence. He has nothing to loose. IGP has a lot to loose. If he is dishonorably discharged for this misstep, which indeed could happen, he looses his lifetime pension and cannot enter into any business or contractual deal with police for rest of his life. Therefore it is to IGPs best discretion to hire a lawyer and a PR and dispatch both to start talking for him. The Senate could invite Esther as well if they want to...and women talk too much sometime, you can bet she will spill the bean. When a charge of this magnitude is raised to the point of going in front of National Legislature it is no longer a matter of simply law...all the points and functions of office must be attended to, including codes of ethics....which by the way is also a legal instrument for managing behavior and relationships in a professional institution where trust and integrity is highly desired and of utmost importance. Dont argue blindly, this is not soccer duel between manchester and liverpool and you are not in a sports arena, you are in the political section of nairaland. Enjoy the evidence....
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devindevin2000:You are upset about our obsession with pussy. With these big swinging sticks we carry around what else should be our obsession if not pussy? You see why your girls love Afonja d1ck? You see why Chidimma out of frustration went and got cucumber? Omo ibo you see ya life... ![]() ![]() |
UAE123:One of the grievances the public has against government is lack of integrity. Lack of integrity means a breakdown of trust, perceived or real. Abuse of office Misuse of authority and power Bias Favoritism And so on.. These and many more erode citizens trust for government. An IGP that accelerates promotion for a girl so he could sleep with her has created tension and bias at work and lost trust (integrity). If IGP can do it to a lower rank, with no punishment, why can't AIGP do it? Why cant CP do it? Why can't Superintendent do it? Very soon all girls in the forse will become maidens to their superiors and get promotion ahead of male counterparts. He has violated professional ethics. |
FarahAideed:The promotion was done to create safety net for his romantic affair. He cannot involve in romance with any rank below officer cadre. |
sarrki:Not everything is about law. How about professional ethics? |
devindevin2000:Your girls run to us for safety and beg to be married. If we dont they will end up as baby factory in Aba. |
Make yanminri go die abeg. Mrs Fatima Ajimobi
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If no be pastor wey dey grope some women in name of Jesus, na Police dey finger and squeeze in name of law.
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With first wife With Esther Esther and sister on day of her wedding to Idris.
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JideAmuGiaka:No be every Idris be Hausa/Fulani. |
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Over the years attempts have been made to reverse the loss of Ilorin. The problem of regaining it lie within Yoruba itself. 
