₦airaland Forum

omonnakoda:
This is nonsense..Remember Sun Tzu in the art of war.
When you are strong act as if you are weak.
Do not be deceived by the show of weakness or be tempted into foolish triumphalism
Be wise like serpents

The real question is this: Are they paying to graze on the land? Do they pay tax.

This is just a strategic move as they realise they are not YET strong enough to be more assertive. The SW position should be uncompromising.This activity is not required and should be aggressively phased out.

It must be viewed in the context of the OTHER COMPETING interests in those lands.
With technology and investment

There is more than enough land in the north to raise cattle as long as we realize cattle owners must GROW or BUY what their animals eat. Nigeria now has a population of more than 150 million and we must use our land wisely and OPTIMALLY.

There is something we must not lose sight of:

These people are walking on foot several times a year across much of the South of Nigeria that means they even know the layout of the land more than the hosts EVIDENCE? The way they handled the kidnap of Falae. He said they were always on the move for days ( In your own territory?) What does that tell you>
Talk is cheap but people must wake up. The reason they are so free i because most people in the south have no use for the Land and are looking for Town jobs. Otherwise how were they able to move for days in the forest and not encounter anyone?

They now own the forest.Their only disadvantage is population. They are not Hausa who do not keep cattle and many Nigerian Fulani do not either. Those who own cattle bring in these Fulani from Niger,Mali Guinea etc .They have nothing to fear when they wreak havoc on villages because quite often their families are not even Nigerian.

What is the solution. ? There is no middle ground. Stop talking and making public pronouncements.
The South have one significant advantage. The State government has all the power too make laws on the subject This must be done smartly using tax,Licensing fees,public health measures etc.
e.g A government may require animals to graze only at specified locations and charge for this.Also require that animals only be moved from these locations by vehicles.
Government may require animals to be screened for a range of diseases at COST to owners.
Require insurance in case animals are infected and need to be culled.
If you cannot find an insurer willing to insure you you don't operate. There are many other measure that can raise the cost of doing business by as much as 50-100k per animal per year

Then there are security measures such as the registration. If you have a criminal record you do not operate. You mus have TB.
You must not carry firearms etc.
Penalties may include powers to confiscate entire herds.
Just like you have LASTMA you have a similar task force
State should also have a capacity evaluation to say HOW MANY ANIMALS they are willing to accommodate and therefore how many licences they will issue
This is not a matter for chest beating.
Put together a panel of experts draft the law do public hearing and put it to vote. Some states may even decide no nomadic activity AT ALL
It is a common mistake to say the constitution allows movement oof goods and services. Not true.

You cannot move a herd of pigs freely in Sokoto state. Anyway animals are not just goods they can carry disease and so subject to regulation.
Yes you can bring cows to come and sell but move move them to destroy crops on land that you do not own.Otherwise a snake keeper can start moving snakes all over the place.
What is needed is thoughtfulness and strategy with a clear goal. NO NOMADIC ACTIVITY
NO FREE LAND TO ANYONE

The ultimate question each state must ask itself is cui bono? Who benefits from this and who pays

Mayor has endorsed this message.

My brother, may Oduduwa bless you and your household, Ase!

victorazy:
They should not trust them yet after one decade. This could be another strategy to infiltrate the communities and areas "Fear North".

Good point!! I agree with you.
Fulani will never outsmart Yoruba in strategy. Relationship sucked to this level because, as the Yoruba elders themselves confirmed, we had become over tolerant, over accomodating and compromised our own security and interests but in view of the direction the country is headed Yoruba will work strategically to achieve regionalism as a first option, failing which we will separate ourselves.

The Fulani proposal is ok on face value but our elders are not going to sit on it. It does not offer solution to the aggrieved issues. Look, our men in police force wear tags that identify them by name and number....has that stopped them from killing innocent people or robbing people of their money at check points? NO! So how is Fulani sarki going to stop his herdsmen who carry weapons not to graze on farms, rape or kill people? Simply carrying or wearing an identification number is not a satisfactory response to their menace. Yoruba must control, totally, its land and forests and rivers.

In the first picture ...is that Obiano in dark behind Ambode?

bayooooooo:
Seriously, the Eze Ndigbo guy was rude. He needs to learn the art of diplomacy.

Deji is not even against Eze Ndigbo title. From what he said, he is favorably disposed to naming another person Eze Ndigbo. I love his Akure dialect, smooth, flowing and original.


Akure Oloyemekun!!!

There will never be an Eze title in Akure anymore. He will recognize Chief of Igbo, not Eze of Igbo.

luvmijeje:
*Sigh* Calling other tribes living in any part of Nigeria immigrants is politically and legally wrong.

However, political happenings under Jonathan have really opened my eyes to the reality that every tribe in Nigeria are territorial.

What differentiate each and every tribe is our languages and culture. You lose that then you're nothing. Let's all learn to respect our differences and above all our humanity. Let's correct each other with love.

[size=20pt]As someone said, it's possible the Eze don't understand the culture behind the Baba oloja. He should be corrected with love[/size]

But telling someone to erase her history, culture and language for your sake is disrespectful.

[size=20pt]according to Sir Gregory his people, the Ibos have been living in Akure for 70 years.[/size]

luvmijeje:
*Sigh* Calling other tribes living in any part of Nigeria immigrants is politically and legally wrong.

However, political happenings under Jonathan have really opened my eyes to the reality that every tribe in Nigeria are territorial.

What differentiate each and every tribe is our languages and culture. You lose that then you're nothing. Let's all learn to respect our differences and above all our humanity. Let's correct each other with love.

As someone said, it's possible the Eze don't understand the culture behind the Baba oloja. He should be corrected with love.

But telling someone to erase her history, culture and language for your sake is disrespectful.

He was respectful to call Ibo immigrant. I myself would have described Ibo as refugees proper if my opinion had been sought on the matter.

For clarification, I draw your attention to the attached illustrations which do not need an interpreter to understand the distance between migrant and refugees is as far apart and distinct as daylight is from darkness, notwithstanding both being equally created by the Almighty Babaloke Himself.

BushidoBlue:
I have listened and watched and read comments from the future generation of Nigeria and I am appalled by what I have observed.

This incident has brought to the fore the underlying animosity that tribalism breeds.

I am not privy to all sides of information so my opinion is based on the respect and reciprocal attitudes of both parties involved.

Let's start by assuming the Igbos erred in some way right there in Akure.
The magnitude of the misdemeanour can't be ascertained by me.
So the Deji of Akure now summons the Eze Igbo of Akure.
Before I continue, I want to ask a question.
Who is an ambassador if not a representative of a nation in another nation and even the embassy grounds are given the same respect as the nation from which the ambassador hails from.
Having said that, an ambassador can be summoned before the president of a country and must honour such an invitation. Being unruly to the "host nation" is a abhorred by any nation or people.
However, being violent on the ambassador is also in distaste and does not speak well of the host nation and can even lead to diplomatic issues or war.

Can we then say that the Eze Igbo is a representative of the entire Igbo community in Akure and as such an ambassador of the Igbos in Akure?
Can we also safely assume that he was summoned and respected the host community by honouring the invitation?
Can we as well say he has the right to ask for the root cause of the issues at stake in order to settle or mediate between the host and his kinsmen?

If the answer to the above is yes in all three positions, will it be personable or civil for the Eze Igbo to be beaten and derobed in the palace of the host community if due to cultural differences, he errs right there in the palace?

I have stated in other posts and threads on this forum that I have been fortunate to travel around this great nation and visit different traditional rulers for different reasons.

One thing I have found in common is that the hospitality and cultural handlers (or special assistants) to the palaces usually explain the do's and dont's of the host community.

I want to know really, what the Eze Igbo said that would have warranted the violent reaction.
If he was found to have erred he must apologize and the initial matter be settled.

With the kind of responses I read here in this forum it would seem that there is a subhuman hatred for the Igbo. The reason I say this is because we hear Nairalanders threaten fire and brimstone ok the igbo's as if the flogging of the Eze Igbo wa not enough humiliation.

When the tables turn and these youth are found to err in another man's land where ever on this earth they may find themselves, I hope and pray their hosts will be more merciful than the youth in the palace of the paramount ruler, the Deji of Akure.

We continue to get information from different quarters in Yorubaland of how Ibos believe market leadership is a democratic process. Markets in Yorubaland are under the jurisdiction of the Oba and he is supported on this by the customary law.

So only the Oba can appoint market leadership. It is not open for voting or an electoral contest. Iyaloja or Babaloja report to Oba and sit in the Oba's Council.

This Eze of Ibos in Akure said his people have been in Akure 70years.....they must be dummies if in 70yrs they did not know the intimate connection between Oba and the market.

We hear and get reports of Ibos challenging why Yoruba should be head of market and rule over them. We don't have to rule over you at all....but if you want to live and trade in a market in Yorubaland, then you must be surbordinate to a Yoruba market leader. It is simple, Yoruba Customary Law does not recognise Ibo as a member in Oba's Council....it is not a positipn for foreigners. In fact, its a taboo to have Ibo in such position.

When this controversy first erupted in Ladipo market, the Ibos there were told to accept Babaloja or forfeit their privilege to trade in Yorubaland, they accepted Babaloja than go back to Iboland or have their trading privilege revoked.

Similarly, the Eze nsigbo has no right to appoint or elect market leader. It is taboo for Ibo to do so in Yorubaland. You are free to return home or surrender your trade license if you cannot have Yoruba above you.

We.did not invite you to Yorubaland.

To those crying about Yoruba fought to keep Nigeria one....did we invite you to march into Ore?

Hot off the Press in Anambra....


In one operation, we made N90m: I built a house and bought one SUV before leaving for Japan


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/in-one-operation-we-made-n90m-i-built-a-house-and-bought-one-suv-before-leaving-for-japan/

ThisMeansWAR:
that's why we say Igbo's generally lack common sense and love to start what they cant finish and only to play victims later .. The trait of pure coward they are .. I think ojukwu laid that example ..

First, why go to the queen of england with a crown in the first place when you know you won't be allowed in .. Common sense should have told you its wrong and you behave like human being ..

A whole king invited you. first, that is a sign of respect, he didn't summon him like a common criminal.. But then, he had to show he is true igbo son of ojukwu, he had to disrepct the invitation to settle a dispute that could have ended with both side having a good plate of amala ..
Are you saying he is not aware that his action is wrong before he even started?

Its like ordinary baale wearing a crown to meet your igwe in igbo land to settle a land dispute ... Isn't that a spit on your igwes face?

It is worse than that....did tou not hear what he said?

He told Deji to book appointment if he wants to see him. He said he did not have time but because he was takinga trip and passing by, decided to branch in and see why Deji want him.


This is a man that said Ibos have been in Akure 70yrs. Apparently 70yrs is not long enough for him or his cohorts cohogs to understand the protocol of the land.

Look, Mr Fawaz and Mr Choudri are the heads of the Lebanese, Turkeys and Syrian families in Lagos. They speak fluent Yoruba. No Lebanese trader, contractor does anything in Lagos without first obtaining their blessing. When they come into Oba Akiolu's palace, they remove shoes and hats at entrance and start courtesies and fellowship with the palace hands and Chiefs before they have entered into the courtyard.
When Eleko shows up the two go on their bellies and praise him and do not lift up until Eleko has called for them to rise.

So who is Ibo in Nigeria? Youve been defeated in war, you are a refugee, you have been emansculated. You are considered.a high political risk and a low political asset to all credible mainstream political parties, you have zero capacity to create, sustain and install political platforms. So who are you in this country

ThisMeansWAR:
when are you going yo be more concerned about Fulani killing Igbo leaders and raping their women ..

At least Yoruba's are already issuing threats ..

Igbo, the coward of the nation

Dem no born Ibo well to issue that kind of threat asking Fulani to vacate Iboland. The other half of their yellow sun go drop that day....it will be a total calamity.

fr3do:
this is one Nigeria
no part of Nigeria is foreign land to any Nigerian
no Nigerian is a 'stranger' in any part of Nigeria as he enjoys the same full consitutional rights as he does even in his home town.

Your Deji and I are equals under this Nigerian constitution.
If yorubas want to return to constituted monarchy, they should fight for odua republic.

Yes it is One Nigeria and no one respects you in it. You are 5th class in this nation, whoever told you are equal lied to you.

Even the President of.the nation told you and broadcasted it to the entire universe that you are a 5%ter.....you are a minority!

Truckpusher:
They are already killing and raping you - What manner of disrespect is worse than that one?

They just killed an Eze on your soil very recently after raping the women and girls in his household.

Igala is beheading and sacking you from your land.

What do you say to that?

fr3do:
one Nigeria means that we are all under one constitution as equals, and this constitution does not require one to be subjected to the constraints of any culture.

You can get your odua republic and fall back to constituted monarchy.

If you notice, Afenifere was specific....."customary law" of the land!

eagleeye2:
Please tell me the bolded was a mistake. What in Hell is a 'foreign land' when I reside in my country?
What is really going on in Nigeria. So, all those who fought to keep NIGERIA ONE made a mistake, if I will be regarded as a 'foreigner' in a part of Nigeria.
Truly your post made me sad.

Nigeria is not a land. Are you not aware?

So use of foreign land is correct.

What the fck is world shipowners association?

Where is their website, who are they....

A bunch of Ibos register a company with CAC and dress it up to appear like a reputable credible world company bht in actuality its headquartered in Aba and is a front for smuggling and crime operations.


I need to see the website of World Shipowners Association...

Prof. Ihenacho O. Chukwumezie sworn in as Commisioner for Culture in Ambode's Cabinet.

Wtf!

Ambode's Cabinet Approved - 5 Ibos made the list.




http://www.nigeriannewspapers.today/goodnews-lagos-assembly-confirms-ambodes-cabinet-members-see-list/

Ibo - human meat eater

Ibo cannibals

Women of Ibo stock.

Ibo female stock

" I just came here to advice you, if you like listen if you don't like don't listen; even i'm not supposed to be here because if you want to see me you have to book an appointment but because i'm travelling that is why i just said i should branch"

This is soooo funny!
Ibos suffer from a psychotic disorder. This is to show they are not ready to assimilate, rather they want to install their own belief system and culture.

chocolateme:
Ok.. It's true that the Eze spoke careless words to the king in the presence of the others which was disrespectful but how come the king has the right to strip that guy of his titles and stuff? These little issues are what can lead to a full blown tribal wars.

The palace orderlies were going to pounce on him and bloody his nose but King had even a better plan. Disrobe him of his ego!

ArodeTsolaye:
All these yoruba "we-will-do-this-we-will-do-that" hot air don tire me. Let the clash happen already. Let blood flow and let the zoo capitulate. They thirst for Igbo blood, why are they afraid to drink?

Ode, they say Yoruba boys flog your eze and kicked his crown to the dust after snapping the bead on his neck.

What else do you want in proof that Yoruba is your master. A whole ndigbo eze, not a spare parts trader, but a crowned eze.

Go and avenge him if they born you well.

Ilekeh:
Look at the calibre of igbo touts on NL.

Yoruba

1) Falae kidnapped
2) Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession from
3) Yoruba leaders order Fulani herdsmen to leave their land ...
4) FG Moves To Check Fulani Herdsmen, Farmers Clashes

Igbo

1) Igbo leader killed
2) We hate Yorubas
3) Yorubas are this and that
4) Is the killer yoruba
5) where is that my yoruba neighbor

dustmalik:
In as much as i would like to see Joy Ogwu sacked or be recalled by the federal government for her incompetency and for deliberately sabotaging Buhari's itineraries which, in turn, led to a gargantuan embarrassment on the person of my beloved President, it's not possible. Though her tenure expires in December 2015, which is barely two months from now. The emboldened, in my opinion, means she can't be sacked or recalled by the federal government. Read below



NB - This is my opinion, and also to educate those calling for her sack. For the bigots on here, you can insult me all you want, but i'll not be replying

Who is the accrediting body?

Junior66:
My brother. The north-east is the home of fulanis, Taraba, Adamawa, Borno, Gombe and the rest.

Half of their poulation is homeless, refugees in camps. Thats a more pressing issue than Yoruba. They need to worry about resettlement for IDPS before worrying about Yoruba. They have their priorities wrong.

I can understand their sentiments about keeping the nation one. If the nation separates where are they to find resource to rebuild? Chad is dry, Darfur has its own problems, Somalia is in turmoil. Their only respite is oil. So we feel their annoyance.

Junior66:
My brother. The north-east is the home of fulanis, Taraba, Adamawa, Borno, Gombe and the rest.

Half of their poulation is homeless, refugees in camps. Thats a more pressing issue than Yoruba. They need to worry about resettlement for IDPS before worrying about Yoruba.

Taich:
Seriously the amount of hate on nairaland is becoming alarming. Yesterday Fashola was asked about sending people back to their states and he answered quite convincingly why he did that, from his explanation u will see that he did what he did not because of hate. I think this Igbo vs Yoruba fights online needs to stop. Please our fault lines are getting wider, and is been widen by the victims of bad governance(youths) like the two E-lords above ,"representing" their tribes. But I tell u that u are sowing the seed of hate and that seed will grow,and when it does grow into a big tree, u can simply cut it down. The hate u preach online is going to consume u. Cos u must reap what u sow.

So is the Oba of Lagos directive online, is disrespect to Deji online?

Why do youbthink this is all online? As if, if we shut down internet all the problems will dissapear.

Were.

new2020:
Great point. You raised a point that has been on my mind for a while. An older yoruba man told me blatantly that there is something inherently wrong with today's generation of younger yoruba men. He attributed this to the broken family... lack of fathers at home; in other words most yoruba homes are run by mothers only. He went on to say that this generation is living on the glory of the past generation...all of the strides made by their generation have been eclipsed by this generation of Igbos. No doubt this generation of yoruba men are lazy, uncouth, envious and widely out of control. You see this on Nairaland daily! Older yorubas are aware of this epidemic but are at loss on how to address it.

Whatever social problems we have.....broken homes, fatherless homes motherless homes, grand mama less homes, babyless homes sef......we are in our land. We have posession of our territories.

What are you doing here in Yorubaland?

Pangea:
Oba kole pe meji laafin!

These people don't learn anything!

This Oba wears a beaded Crown - Ade Ileke! Thats a sacred Crown direct from Oduduwa dynasty.

Na Sango.go punish this eze sef for entering sacred ground with a self styled crown inherited through a lineage of warrant officer grade 2 before him. Oloshi!

sunnyb0b0:
The stupid man should attempt dethroning the Sarkin Fulani whose boys have been destroying farmlands, raping, killing and kidnapping in Akure.

Fulani is not the topic here. Save your yeye eze crown that has been knocked down into the dust.