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Sal C: Are you deliberately displaying this double standard?. Are you telling me it's impossible for one to decide and live a celibate life? The last time I checked nobody was forced into priesthood. And they very well know the rules before joining. Both the pastor who commited adultery and priest who did not keep to his vow of celibacy simply decided to do what they know is wrong.

Again can you tell me what you meant by misconception of the bible?

Bible never said it should be made a rule anywhere that men shouldn't marry. For this denomination to take up that standard was a misconception of what Paul said about marriage. He was saying that its better to remain unmarried not that any should make it a standard, that was why he also said that if the person cannot bear it , its better to marry than commit fornication. Leave the married fallen pastors for God to judge, but why should a religion cage its pastors all in the name of celibacy? If they truly want to practice it then they should stay away from fornication. Who are they deceiving? Shallom!

Sal C: Lacum has already given you my response. Celibacy is no the cause.

Think u should check out my response to Lacum

Royal Roy: Very nice analogy!!

This should summaries all this discussion.

I doubt

lacum: we have also heard stories about some maried pastors who lost after their female members and even males and children. so in this case, are u suggesting that their churches were wrong for sticking to one man one wife or should they also provide them with male wives?

We know that stems up from unholiness, females immoral dressing, lust and so on, but for Rev Fathers, its to satisfy their craving for what God has ordained from the foundation of the world. Sin is in the world, so those married pastors that lust after othe women is just part of the sin and fall of man. But in the other case of the Rev Fathers we would not address it as "he has fallen into sin" because it was something that was delibrately carried out as a result of misconception of the bible.

Sal C: Then you are yet to understand what Jesus meant when he said ' some made themselves eunuch for the kingdom of heaven's sake.

Notice that these people made themselves eunuch, that's to say they were not one before then. And Jesus did not mean that you should get yourself castrated. He meant that these people choose to celibacy for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.

That's what Rev Frs do.

But it seems that it doesnt favor them, cos we've heard so many stories, it would have been better if they had taken Paul's advice.

tpia@:
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Rexyl: fulfilling the master‘s mandate ... the priority... the ultimate...

We are saved to save, every Dlbcian must hv that in mind. Evry true born again member must that evangelism is our main priority.

homesteady: I suggest that you should go back and read what I wrote again!

I did see it! Shallom!

Rhemar: and who says so? I don't like this comment seems like placing d church over every other.

Sowi o, mayb am jst a fanatic.

engrtee: Why do dipper life discriminate alot. Why the isolation.


A girl told me i must first be baptised and convert to dipperlife befor she considers any catholic for marriage.she say she could tolerate few other churches but never catholics. Catholics are darkness. Godforbid her marry demonic incarnate.

Friend what you must realise is that we have different individuals with different ideas. We have fanatics all over the world. Jst as we have fanatics in other spheres of life or religion, we also have them in the church. Fanatics go a long way inorder to maintain the old standard, we're nt rebuking them though and at the same time we're nt giving them the full suport. The lady in your encounter might just anoda deeperlife fanatic. That does nt mean the whole church act on that rigid idea, though no deviation is made if the matter in question goes against the bible and nt necessarily against deeperlife standard.

tpia@:
The thread title says deeper life bible church, i think you can read.

Do you have a problem with the church?

And if you do, must you go out of your way to insult it?

Take it easy bro, follow peace with all men remember?

Ajibam: Happy sunday,brethren

Same too you dear, and thanks Mod(s) for lifting the ban.

homesteady: No they are muslims! Mtcheeew!

NOT FUNNY

Sal C: Matt 19 V 12 For there are some eunuchs which were so born from there mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs , which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (KJV)

For there are different reasons why men cannot marry: some because they were born that way; others, because men made them that way; and others do not marry for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let him who can accept this teaching do so. ( GNB).

So why did you say its not about marriage.

Or perhaps the word eunuch means pastor?

Eunuchs to me means castrated or infertile men, and ofcos why should an infertile man talk abt marraige at all ,. But we talking here abt sound men not infertile men.

4C2215131: Is it impossible to have a difference of opinion on a subject without it getting all personal,rowdy, and the like in NL.

We keep complaining about our leaders but taking a cue from the attitude displayed by members of NL I doubt many wouldn't make better leaders. It goes beyond being incorruptible you know. Tolerance and humility births true wisdom. Folks let's learn how to agree to disagree.

Thanks, we heard you

nato.14:
confused bunch. Celibacy should have been optional not a must. Now dey r tinking of marriage,its for evil. Promotinng gays . Mmtschew!!!!!!!!!

Were are u frm? Pls no one is suporting gay, unless if you,...

xynerise: Among the 12disciples, it was only Peter that got married

Its not true, the bible never had any reason or medium to talk abt or make refference to the disciples' wives or family, if Peter's mother inlaw had not had any fever and as such needed no healing frm Jesus who would have known that Peter was married?

xynerise: Among the 12disciples, it was only Peter that got married

The bible never indicated that, correct me if am wrong, wit bible ref if possible.

Hostermipo: I don't think they are disobeying the bible. As a priest it is good but if and only if you know you can do it and what i think can bring curse is when you are claiming to be a Rev. Father and having secret affair.............the likes of 1.[color=#881111]Paul[/color],majority of 2.[color=#881111]Jesus disciples[/color], 3.[color=#881111]Jesus himself and John the baptist[/color] never get married..... So i can say that getting married is not a must but it is better to get married than falling into the sin of fornication. . . . . . . . . .* Note: am nt a catholist but Baptist*

1. Bible scholars believed that Paul was married but lost his wife and decided not to re-marry. Paul was a Pharisee,and being a Pharisee requires one that is married. 2. Mention any you know that was unmarried till death. 3. Those were special people, they were sent directly from heaven to fulfill God's plan and purpose for mankind, so they couldn't have been entangled with marriage [color=#992222] John 1:6 , John 3:16[/color]. These scriptures shows that they were special people sent by God from heaven.

Baby remmy: Even apostle Paul admonisd us to stay as he did bt if we kant contain or control d flesh then we shld get married. Marriage is not compulsory. dats not what God meant by being fruitful alone. he was also refern to d creative ability of man to improve on the world dt he has created

Are you selective? Did God say be fruitful only? [color=#992222]Genesis 1:28 [/color] read that very well, or am i the only one seeing the words: multiply and replenish the earth? If you did see those words can you tell me what the bible was talking about pls?

Royal Roy: @Op, the Catholic church did not "order" its priest and rev sisters to be single.

Being celibate just like Jesus Christ & John the Baptist is a standard for being a priest or a Reverend Sister in the catholic church. People are not forced into it.

You have to fully convinced by the spirit before you go into priesthood or sisterhood. You have to be prepared before you plunge into it.

Don't misinterprete the bible to suit your personal ego!

Royal Roy: @Op, the Catholic church did not "order" its priest and rev sisters to be single.

Being celibate just like Jesus Christ & John the Baptist is a standard for being a priest or a Reverend Sister in the catholic church. People are not forced into it.

You have to fully convinced by the spirit before you go into priesthood or sisterhood. You have to be prepared before you plunge into it.

Don't misinterprete the bible to suit your personal ego!

Sorry to say but we find out that most Rev Fathers are nt capable of maintaining the standard, thereby illicit affairs here and there, and that was what Apostle Paul warned against [color=#993333]1 Corinthians 7:2 "NEVERTHELESS TO AVOID FORNICATION LET EVERY MAN HAVE HIS OWN WIFE, AND LET EVERY WOMAN HAVE HER OWN HUSBAND"[/color]

Sal C: You can read Matt 19 v 12 and tell me what you understand by the statement Jesus made.

Jesus was talking abt how pastors(preist, leaders etc) are made. He said some are born to be, others are made so by men, while some took the work upon themselves, he never said anything abt marrying or not marrying

njideoby: Nna,which of de chief priest in de bible didn't marry?
Get ur facts right before deceiving de feeble minded.priesthood started with Aaron who was happily married with children.
Does the name John de baptist ring a bell? Ask what his father's vocation was as well.
Time will fail me to talk about Eli and his family. Or did Peter who you reverence as de foundation (rock) upon whom ur church was built not married as well? Check out de story about his sick mother-in-law whom Jesus healed by Himself.
Apostle Paul's case was just a personal decision,not based on any human ideology nor oaths (calibacy).

pls tell him 4 me o, i think it was only Paul who didnt marry . No Paul married buh was widowed, so he choose nt to re-marry,

The bible made it clear that we should be fruitful and multiply, to this effect i see no reason why the Roman Catholic Church forbids their Reverends in engaging in marriage and thereby raising up families as the Lord has commanded. Forbidding to marry is it not a breech on the law of the bible and the family institution as a whole?

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