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Sports / Re: Nigeria Beats South Africa 2-1 In All Africa Games Men's Football. by Miaraka: 10:21pm On Aug 20, 2019
excel4us:


My dear, the problem is not beating south africa.the problem is what awaits NIGERIANS staying in South Africa.may God PROTECT them
May God protect all who live in SA, especially South Africans because an average of 57 South Africans are killed daily in crime-related incidents.

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Thrash South Africa 0-3 In All Africa Games Women Football. by Miaraka: 5:25pm On Aug 18, 2019
JaceBlaze:
Nigeria finally punishing us for our xenophobic acts cry undecided tongue

Chai,our xenophobia don finish the image of dis khwantry na cry
Chai,our xenophobia don finish the image of dis khwantry na cry[/quote]
They are "punishing" you for your own xenophobia. Not us. Leave our people out of this. Our girls played and lost. They'll win someday. It's sport. Somebody must win and for now, it's the turn of the Nigerians. Let them enjoy the limelight.
There are concrete issues, particulary crime committed by some Nigerians who are based here. Other Nigerians have nothing to worry about.
Our people have no mercy for criminals, no matter who they are, teenager or adult, local or immigrant. If you are South African you should know that they will never be kind or merciful, simply because a criminal happens to be an immigrant.
Crime / Re: Police Clash With Foreign Nationals In Johannesburg Cbd(mostly Nigerians) by Miaraka: 3:07pm On Aug 17, 2019
Xisnin:

You must live in a jungle when the locals become city defenders.
Why not disband all your incompetent cops and let the bloodthirsty locals carry
out acts of savagery and jungle justice?

SMH.
If our cops were incompetent, they would have opened fire and massacred the foreign immigrants who attacked them at the end of July with rocks and firearms instead of allowing them to do their work. They are only 200000 in number and the crime situation is very bad. The number certainly needs to be increased.

Regarding your question about Cape Town, I have this to say - the city has an indigenous drug and gang problem which goes back centuries (1800s) before the heavy, several million strong influx of African immigrants, wealthy fugitives from justice from around the world, etc,.
The 50000 strong Numbers Gang is the biggest in SA. It was formed by two local migrant workers and a nomad. Their idea was to fight the colonialists by murdering them, stealing from them and raping their women. Its "political" base is the mixed race Cape Town community and its linked to the city's 400 street gangs such as the Hard Livings and Americans.
The friendly gesture of relaxing immigration laws and influx control as well as switching off or removal of the electric border fence by the ANC government in 1994 enabled international crime syndicates to exploit our strategic geographical location, trade and diplomatic links with most, if not all country members of the UN and our highly developed road, rail, air and sea infrastructure. Prior to 1994 drugs were not a problem in most parts of South Africa. Even in Cape Town, drug dealing and consumption was a manageable problem.
Nigerian drug syndicates were used by their international counterparrs to establish South Africa as a transit station for drug and human trafficking. Our naive girls who thought they had found rich husbands in certain Nigerians, were used as drug mules. Some of them were forced and others, if not driven by self-interest, only discovered upon arrest in distant countries or at our international airports and other entry points that they had been used as drug mules.
Sorry to mention this but this drug and human trafficking problem which has earned our country a very bad reputation internationally and increased criminality around SA is inextricably-linked to Nigerian drug syndicates who also played a very key role in nationalising a local Cape Town problem.
This comes from me, a former government official and one who studied in your country in the 70s. The majority of us, including those who were assaulted by Nigerian boys for going out with your girls and at least one who's face was disfigured by an acid attack, have nothing against Nigerians. We are not bitter. We didn't even report such things to our leaders. To us this was just a boys thing. As far as we were concerned, such a thing could happen anywhere in the world and after living in many different countries, we know it does.
I just hope that what I've told you will help you and others (SAs and 9jas) to understand that it's necessary to stop the insults, obviate the bad habit of gobbling everything you are told or read in the media or see on TV as if it was the gospel truth and begin to engage as brothers and sisters who must work together to break the chains of poverty and under-development imposed upon all Africans and their countries by the former colonial masters who have remained very much in charge despite the so-called independence.

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Crime / Re: Nigerian Taxify Driver Shot Dead In South Africa by Miaraka: 11:07am On Aug 17, 2019
It's really sad and disheartening to go through this thread. You guys have veered off the topic and very few of you seem to care about the fact that a human being has lost his life, how and why Uber and Taxify drivers, local and foreign, get killed.
Nairaland is a great platform. We could use it to exchange views, debate and negotiate soberly and without insults about matters that affect us all as African people with a view to find and understand one another and work together in the best interests of our African countries and peoples. Instead, we seem to have chosen to descend into the deepest part of the gutter. I guess our erstwhile colonial masters can't believe how easy it has become to keep us and our countries, dependent and helpless.
Crime / Re: Nigerian Medical Student Stabbed To Death By Ukrainian Lady (Photos) by Miaraka: 7:38pm On Aug 16, 2019
jaxxy:
Ukrainian gals are terrible probably far worse than Russian ones. And why wud the guy be in a relationship with a single gal with 2kids. Most of them have unresolved issues.

What do you mean terrible? In which way? I lived in that region for 15 years. When Ukrainian, Russian and Belorussian women love you, they love like crazy but then isn't that the case with all women? Before you dump or cheat on such a woman you should remember that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

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Crime / Re: South Africa: Black African Foreign Owned Shops Looted In Soweto by Miaraka: 7:36pm On Aug 15, 2019
Nigerians, Nigerians, Nigerians! How many times did I call you?
I live in Randburg which is part of greater Johannesburg. Soweto is one of the villages where I grew up. That's where my father's house is situated.
I heard about the looting earlier in the day. Media on the ground in Soweto has been talking about Pakistani owned shops being looted, not African immigrant owned shops. This African immigrant owned shop narrative is a distortion because some people squeeze in the xenophobia allegation into everything that has to do with black South Africans.
I've called some of the guys I know who are based in Soweto and they've confirmed that it's Pakistani owned shops and further explained that the land and buildings are owned by black South Africans. The shops are a form of joint venture between the black Sowetan landlords and Pakistanis.
The black Sowetan landlords are the ones who're affected and therefore have every right to complain and demand the arrest of the looters.
No Nigerian, Ghanaian, Ugandan or Tanzanian, etc. is affected. Besides, they don't live or do busines there. They live and do business here in Johannesburg and some of it's suburbs which are mainly populated by them.
That notwithstanding, the looting is unjustifiable and criminal. Only a very small minority of the 1,3 million people of Soweto, probably not more than 1000, are perpetrators of this crime. The hands of our police are full but I hope they'll be able to identify the culprits who are the real instigators of this looting which is mainly carried out by some paid unemployed youth. Someone is paying. We need to know who it is and what is and deal with them.

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Crime / Re: South Africa: Black African Foreign Owned Shops Looted In Soweto by Miaraka: 6:19pm On Aug 15, 2019
tstx:


Like all black South Africans, you are Intellectually disabled.. So I'm not surprised with what you just typed..
Crime / Re: South Africa: Black African Foreign Owned Shops Looted In Soweto by Miaraka: 6:15pm On Aug 15, 2019
tstx:


Like all black South Africans, you are Intellectually disabled.. So I'm not surprised with what you just typed..

There's no difference between the two of you. You are an embarrassing set of wins reminiscent of the pot calling the kettle black.
Crime / Re: South Africa: Black African Foreign Owned Shops Looted In Soweto by Miaraka: 5:21pm On Aug 15, 2019
Timmyprox:


Damn!!!
black south africans and nigerians need to exchange country
This is a very good idea. We'll learn how not to wait for government to do things for us and you'll learn to live according to rules but you should please take the mosquotoes with you.

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Crime / Re: Over 6,000 Nigerians Under Crime Investigation In South Africa by Miaraka: 10:50am On Aug 15, 2019
Lifestone:
What's the population of Nigerians living in South Africa?

In 2017, NUSA estimated that there are 800000 Nigerians living in SA. My own estimate which Nigerians I interact with agree with is at least 1,5 million or not more than 2 million. There's no one who really knows how many they are because some people, for good and or bad reasons, will not make the effort to register with their Nigerian High Commision or Consulate. In addition to that, there are many who are illegal immigrants. Also, please be aware that being under investigation does not necessarily mean you have been found guilty and thrown behind bars. You can be investigated while on bail at home.
Crime / Re: Over 6,000 Nigerians Under Crime Investigation In South Africa by Miaraka: 7:47am On Aug 15, 2019
chiommy123:
Mr high commissioner doesn't have time to investigate anything he just swallows everything the SA police told him hook line and sinker God is watching una so almost every Nigeria in south Africa is a criminal excluding the high commissioner abi?

No, Madam! You are grossly mistaken. There's at least 1,5 m Nigerians. My own estimate is that they are 2 million and Nigerians I interact with, concur. The majority of Nigerians are living their lives peacefully and not disturbing anyone. They play sports and or music, study, work, worship their God or Allah.
Further to that, please be aware, ambassadors and high commissioners don't work alone. They work with highly trained and experienced government officials or what the French call la creme de la creme of their countries. The High Commissioner would not attend such a meeting without his political, intelligence and military officials. Therefore, please rest assured that the best interests of your country and its citizens are in safe hands.
Politics / Re: Xenophobia: South African Government Shows Concern Over Threats By NANS by Miaraka: 4:46pm On Aug 14, 2019
Inistic:
Just thought it wise to tap this in.
You would agree with the fact that businesses often move from one city to another, state to state and also countries as part of their growth strategies. Often times issues arise in these locations and in most cases not because of the operations of these businesses but maybe because of social or governmental policies. A good number of times, we as a people take laws into our hands and then expect good to come to us yet I also feel it is right for organisations to come out publicly to denounce any act that seems to be jeopardizing their reputation.
As one that is well traveled, what are your thoughts on the demand for South Africa brands to leave the country? Has Shoprite done right to disassociate itself and condemn the xenophobic act? Is there more to what we know as to why only Nigerians are being attacked.

It's very said that someone has persuaded you and other Nigerians to think and believe this lie. Nigerians are not the only victims of crime. We have millions of African immigrants. Some have left their countries half empty . They are everywhere and they came here with their criminals.
Everyone who lives here, including South Africans, is a potential victim of crime. It is a shameless lie from the bottomless pit of hell that Nigerians are being especially targeted for extra judicial assaults and killing. It doesn't matter how many times this lie is repeated, we are not and we'll never be the inhumane savages you've been made to believe we are.
The indisputable fact is that the majority of Nigerians who are murdered in this country are murdered by Nigerian criminals. Palpable evidence to that effect can be adduced, if required.
Others may have been killed by other African immigrant or SA criminals. We know of cases whereby innocent Nigerians (not criminals) were attacked and mugged by foreign criminals. I personally know at least one who was attacked and robbed by Zimbabwean criminals. Criminals don't care where you come from. You need to understand that this country is like the USA in the sense that it's packed full with foreigners from practically every country in the world. There are all kinds of criminal gangs from those countries and they often fight and kill each other for the crime market and whatever is available in it - money, women, drugs, etc.
The other thing you should know is that most people who are killed in this country are South African. 57 South Africans, not Nigerians, are killed here everyday mainly but not only by other South Africans who may be criminals, spouses, family members, friends, neighbours, etc.
None of your people, not even one, has ever been killed by a South African mob in a spate of so-called xenophobia. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO. We know that there's a Nigerian businessman who's media agency is one of the agencies that are feeding Nigerian and World media with fabricated news, videos and photos about so-called xenophobia. He operates from Johannesburg and Port Harcourt. There's another similar agency in Zimbabwe which publishes this kind of nonsense. The question is, why are they doing this? What is their strategic objective? Is there a political or financial motive behind their unscroupulous and red devil actions? Why are some people so determined to denigrate the good name of my country? I have my own answers to those questions but I'm not the South African government and I don't work for them. It's up to them to do something about this matter.

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Politics / Re: Nigerian Government Frustrating Treatment Of El-zakzaky In India, Shiites Allege by Miaraka: 11:29am On Aug 14, 2019
It seems like the Nigerian government is busy preparing the conditions for a Shiite insurgency against itself. Unbelievable but that's where all this is going.
Romance / Re: Justice by Miaraka: 8:04pm On Aug 13, 2019
funmisticqueen:
wink You are welcome, if this how south Africans think, a lot of things now make sense.
No, Madam! She's not our representative or claiming to be one. She's responding that way because she suffered a great deal. Now, instead of supporting her or just ignoring her post, you appear to have chosen to judge her or take sides. I may be wrong but that's what appears to be the case.

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Romance / Re: Justice by Miaraka: 7:55pm On Aug 13, 2019
limpopo:
I know this is not the right place but I just want to ask you this question coz you are from South Africa.

This song by Brenda Fassie - MPUNDULU.. I love that song like my food even though I don't know the meaning...

Please can you tell me the meaning of that song... I would really appreciate this...

Impundulu is a Xhosa word for "oppressive spirit." I think she's about an abusive husband, just like an oppressive spirit.
Politics / Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Miaraka: 7:44pm On Aug 13, 2019
[quote author=morpheus24 post=81223649]

I don't know what you mean by this.

1.Are Nigerians the only economic migrants in South Africa or other countries for that matter?

2. Are you talking about the illicit activities conducted by Nigerians in other countries?

3. If your answer is the affirmative to question 2 why do you not emphasis the contributions of Nigerians which is "far more" extensive compared to the illicit activities you mostly hear about. Bad news is far more entertaining than good news and you fall for the same media trick.

Case in point:

Nigerian population: approximately 200 million

Population of Nigerian diasporans: approximately 20 million ( 10% of entire population).

Population of Nigerians in South Africa: 1 million ( 5% of Diasporan population).

Population of male Nigerians in South Africa : 500,000 ( 50% of Nigerians in South Africa)

Population of males over the age of 18: 375,000 ( 75% of male Nigerians in South Africa)

Population of employed Nigerians in South Africa with work permits, professionals, students, diplomats, etc = 187,500( 50% of males over 18)

Population of potential miscreants = 187,500


This potentials are concentrated in major cities, Johannesburg, Cape town and Durban as compared to 49 million peoples in South Africa.

You see how ridiculous the statement a majority of Nigerians are criminals is??

No one really knows without a doubt how many Nigerians are in SA because from my experience with South Africans abroad, for good and or bad reasons, not everyone is interested in registering with the embassy or consulate. Some people don't want to be bothered by fellow countrymen or their country's authorities when they are having a good time or when they are busy breaking the law but they all remember their compatriots and government when things are bad or threaten to go bad.
My own estimate which some Nigerians I interact with believe is a good guess, is that there's a maximum of 2 million Nigerians in this country.
However, I do agree that Nigerians who're involved in crime are few. The challenge is that very little is known about good people. Most of the time, our people hear or read about the evil things that Nigerians have done, partly because of criminals who use Christianity to disguise their evil deeds.
Apart fron that, some people may not even know the difference between Nigerians and any other African immigrant. So, for them "Nigerian" could easilly be a synonym for "foreigner."

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Politics / Re: Xenophobia: South African Government Shows Concern Over Threats By NANS by Miaraka: 7:54pm On Aug 12, 2019
pokuasi:

shut up with this your baby damage control nonsense.
Do you think Nigerians are stupid and not seeing what's going on.
A very Respected woman was in your country for a conference and you human savages hacked her to death for no reason
instead of your Moronic minister to firstly acknowledge and apologize for those avoidable incidents, she's here creating the distorted impression that SOUTH AFRICAN LIVES AND PROPERTIES IN NIGERIA MATTER MOST to her.
Her action could be likened to denial
of HOLOCAUST.


You sound like a victim of propaganda or an agent of one of the media agencies that have been working very hard at disseminating falsified video clips, photos and manipulative information in Nigeria and elsewhere as a way of ensuring that there'll be a conflictous relationship between Nigeria and South Africa, thereby making it particularly difficult for African countries to work together.

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Politics / Re: Xenophobia: South African Government Shows Concern Over Threats By NANS by Miaraka: 7:03pm On Aug 12, 2019
AmenhotepZuid:
the founder.....of the ZOO.
I'm not sure but I doubt that you are South African. If you are, I'm very disappointed because you are no different from those who designed the false story of a xenophobic South Afriica which is targeting Nigerians for extra judicial killing. I say so because the result of what both you and the purveyors of lies about our country is the same.
Nigeria is a great country of highly talented, industrious and hard-working people. You should be aware by now now that despite the statistics, diagrams and photos that you've shared, there are areas of human endeavour in which Nigerians beat us and or are capable of beating us hands down. Besides, all the nonsense you are boasting about has not and is unlikely to change the lives of the majority of our people in the foreseeable future. It belongs to a select few black and white people who don't care about the fact that some of our children go to bed and or to school without food in the stomach. You're boasting about things that don't belong to you.
I pray that you're a child and don't know where we come from with Nigeria, have no clue and can't envision where we are supposed to go with them and other African countries. Please stop this infantile disorder.
I'm deeply hurt that you even had to post old photos of Igbo maidens as part of your insulting boast. How different are they from our women? I don't think that any of our women, especially during this Women's Month and only a few days after Women's Day, would be entertained by what you are doing. Are you even black African?

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Politics / Re: Xenophobia: South African Government Shows Concern Over Threats By NANS by Miaraka: 5:31pm On Aug 12, 2019
Lamasta:
So they can be quick to respond like this and when Nigerians are being killed in South Africa there will be no statement from the country office I don't even blame the xenophobic country I blame our leaders here who don't value the lives of its citizenry as far as it does not affect there wards or family then they don't care.

Please don't call us a xenophobic country. You can't prove that your countrymen were killed by South Africans but we can prove that most of the Nigerians who got killed here, were killed by their own compatriots. Even your own diplomats have told you many times about this but you prefer to cling to this insult to our nation.
You probably don't know or even care to know that the greatest majority of Nigerians live here happily as students, workers, experts, religious leaders, cultural activists and business people.
We don't really care about Shoprite and MTN, whether or not you close them down. The vast majority of my countrymen are not shareholders of those companies. Their further presence and operation in Nigeria doesn't change the price of bread for us. It's your sovereign right to take decisions on the matter.
Come to South Africa and see us enjoying life with normal Nigerians, Ghanaians, Ivorians, Mozambicans Zimbabweans, other Africans, Asians, Americans and Europeans.
Our government's decision to invite President Buhari to South Africa is not a sign of weakness but wisdom. Nigeria and South Africa need to work together in partnership and effectively address the challenges that plague them and our continent.
I hope that the Nigerian delegation will have the time for a detailed presentation on the crime situation, the role of some Nigerians in it, including how and why they even kill their compatriots.

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Business / Re: Students Shut Down Shoprite In Ogun Over Xenophobia In South Africa by Miaraka: 7:21am On Aug 11, 2019
Wonders shall never end! Most Nigerians who died here were killed by other Nigerians, a few others were killed by criminals, not necessarily South African criminals and your students punish Shoprite for that!
Can somebody please advise or help these students to do their research? Maybe President Buhari should arrange for them to come here as part of a facr-finding mission.
Our police will show them the files and evidence. They should also know that 57 people die everyday in crimie related incidents in this country and are almost always South African. Only once in a while, a Nigerian or some other foreigner becomes part of that statistical idata. No Nigerian has ever died due to or in the course of a so-called but non existent xenophobic violence. We don't hate Nigerians or other humans. If we did, we wouldn't allow them to marry our daughters or receive free medical care and other services. The main and perhaps only problem between Nigerians and South Africans is crime, particularly the devastating effect of the type they specialise in (kidnappings, drug and human trafficking).
Officially, there's less than a million Nigerians here. However, we know that there's at least 1,5 million Nigerians who for various reasons, good and or bad, have not reported their presence to their Consul. Most Nigerians are happy in this country. They study, work, do business, worship God or Allah. Please don't allow anti South African propaganda to spoil their fun.

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Politics / Re: Nigerian Government Warns South Africa Of Killing Nigerians by Miaraka: 6:50pm On Aug 10, 2019
morpheus24:


Point 1. You were not living in peace and harmony with any African immigrants. You always had issues with foreigners particularly from southern Africa who competed with you in the mines and other sectors pre 1994 so stop trying to paint yourself as innocents.

Before 1994, 100% peace prevailed between local and immigrants who lived side by side in our townships. This particular group of migrants were employed in the factories and white homes. They were married to their country women or locals. I was born and bred and attended school with children of migrants here in Gauteng, the industrial and mining heartland of our country. You are correct about conflict on the mines. From time to time, there would be fights among the SA miners ( representatives of one tribe against another). There were also fights between any of the SA miners comprising one of the tribes and miners from any of the neighbouring countries. According to the trade unions, the fights were caused by the divide and rule policies of the Chamber of Mines and its members. They lived in men's hostels and were all from rural areas and fought over women and petty stuff.

Point 2. Things started to change post 1994 when the economy was handed over to the new government and a major shift occurred in which transformation of the economy did not take place as rapidly as possible and unskilled and under skilled workers began to compete with their foreign African counterparts. The inflow of economic migrants increased and thus the pressure and negative social perceptions of foreigners in general began to fester in the minds of black South Africans.

I think that you are correct about the role played by the torrential influx of thousands of mainly Zimbabwean economic and politcal refugees in the early 2000s. Couple that with our stagnant economy and shrinking jobs market as well as the employers' preference for vulnerable undocumented and non unionised workers, etc....and the bomb was ready to explode.

Point 3. The Nigerians constitute a segment of this burgeoning economic immigrant class of which some specialized in certain types of illicit and illegal activity which was never foreign to your society in the first place. The gangs in the western cape always peddled drugs and were involved in prostitution rings as well. the 28, 27, dixies boys, Americans, mongrels e.t.c have existed in South Africa for a very long time. Your media simply looks for sensational stories to keep your minds occupied from the real powers.

I'm afraid Mduza is wrong to disagree with you when it comes to criminal gangs, prostitution and drugs among the coloureds in the Western Cape. In the rest of the country, prostitution and drugs were almost completely non existent. Then came the Nigerians with their trading expertise and experience. They turned these crimes which were mainly confined to a very small part of our country into a national criminal system, using churches and hair salons as cover and laundromats for their ill-gotten wealth. As if that was not enough, they introduced human trafficking, invitation to SA and abductions of foreign investors and even turned unsuspecting girls and young women into drug mules. One of the worst cases was how a certain group of so-called Nigerian pastors tricked a domestic worker and single mother into abandoning her job and children to go to Iraq and work in their brother's company. She was sentenced to death but God saved her.

Point 4. I will admit here that Nigerians do kill Nigerians in South Africa anyone that is oblivious of that fact is simply being disingenuous.

Let me add here that where possible, they prefer to employ someone else, preferably Zimbabweans who are said to be particularly ruthless.


Point 5. Why should anyone die in custody of the police, is that person's life worth less simply because he is a Nigerian. Did this person attack the police, even resisting arrest does not warrant excessive force that leads to death. If arrested and found wanting, deport with immediate effect back to his motherland and mark the person undesirable. These heinous acts are neglected because deep down inside it comes down to teaching these "others" a lesson and not in terms of true justice.

Yes. Death in police custody shouldn't happen. It's actually a crime. Unfortunately, it happens even to South Africans. That's why we have an independent structure called Independent Police Investigative Directorate to investigate crimes commited by the police.

Nobody is stopping you from cleaning up your streets, if you are going to do it. Do it well!

I totally agree. Otherwise, innocent people who mind their business end up being victims of maladministration while criminals enjoy life and continue to mess up other people's lives.
Travel / Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Miaraka: 2:49pm On Aug 10, 2019
The SA High Commission is better placed to respond to the enquiries and do so correctly. I hope they're aware of this website and will respond..
Politics / Re: Nigerian Government Warns South Africa Of Killing Nigerians by Miaraka: 11:59am On Aug 10, 2019
[quote author=EVarn post=81063197] This is quite unfortunate indeed. Allow me to assure you in the strongest terms possible that the FRN will,if pushed to a breaking point on this issue, exercise vigorous and robust measures against the RSA. Nigeria and South Africa are brothers,and we shouldn't let the activities of a few misguided elements on both sides jeopardize our cordial relationship.

Nigeria has long had a policy of non-interference in the affairs of other sovereign states,hence, I don't understand what you mean by being "dictated" to. We are merely trying to safeguard the lives of our citizens in your country,same thing your government would have done if the case was reversed.

I will urge you to play your own small part in enlightening your people against the evils of xenophobia and other such criminal enterprises. While we may currently be facing grievious security problems of our own,we are keenly aware that the Republic of South Africa has the world's highest crime rate and an unstable polity. However,that shouldn't be an excuse to neglect the security of both citizens and non-citizens. We hope this issue can be resolved soon.[/quote

The greatest enemy is misinformation on both sides. Someone has managed to convince Nigerians that South Africans hate them and there's an ongoing slaughter of Nigerians in South Africa. Another has convinced South Africans that Nigerians are criminals and some people are afraid to do business with you, if you say a Nigerian is involved.
There are many Nigerians who've adopted this country as their own. They are married to Nigerians, locals or foreign women. They mind their business and focus on doing something good for themselves and their families.
There is no xenophobia. We don't hate Nigerians or other humans. We wouldn't allow them to marry our daughters, if we hated them. Our people don't even know the difference between a Nigerian and South African. They even talk to Nigerians and other African immigrants in our local languages, thinking they are South African.
The use of the term "xenophobia" in explaining what's going on here in SA is unhelpful because it distracts us from addressing the real problems behind the discord between our two countries and the challenges they are facing - unemployment, poverty, crime, corruption, poorj implementation of immigration policy, etc.
Nigeria should stop the threats. That's not the way to solve problems and nothing much can be achieved with the help of such an approach. Efforts should be made by both governments and civil society of our two countries to engage in dialogue, understand the problem and deal with it.
Some of us know your country and people quite well. We lived, studied and worked in different parts of Nigeria. Others in our group are fluent in some of your languages. We have a full understanding of the great and wonderful things that can be achieved by our two countries, if they could work in partnership to address their own and the challenges and problems that afflict and torment black African people in Africa and elsewhere. We're ready, willing and able to make our own humble contribution.
Politics / Re: Nigerian Government Warns South Africa Of Killing Nigerians by Miaraka: 2:14pm On Aug 09, 2019
MduZA:
South africans have been living in peace and harmony with African immigrants particularly from neighboring countries but things started to change when our boarders were opened for our so called brothers from Nigeria,we started to witness some of the crimes which were foreign to us(drugs-dealings and human-trafficking),this criminal element went as far as establishing gangs amongst Nigerians themselves which are deadly fighting each other,unfortunately no Nigerian is willing to acknowledge this.We always hear of stories of Nigerians dying in the hands of south African police,when you dig deep down you will find that majority of those victims were criminals who die while trying to avoid arrests using all forms of fatal tricks.My point is Nigerians look yourselves in the mirror,surely you will find unwanted dots which require your own wiper ...or else the status quo will remain unchange unfortunately!

My name is Mduza,that's my personal opinion!


Mduza, I concur with probably everything you're saying except the fact that you appear not to be aware that there are Nigerians here in SA who are not involved in crime and I'd like to believe that they are in the majority because good people are usually more than bad people. I must add, though, that the bad and very bad Nigerians are very effective in their business of messing up people's lives and denigrating the reputation of their great country.
It's time the good Nigerians - the students, experts, pastors (not the Omotoso type), workers, diplomats and business people - spoke out so that people here in South Africa and the entire Southern Africa would know that Nigerians are not just a nation of criminals but like every other nation, they have criminals among them.
The Nigerian nation also needs to know that no Nigerian is known to have died due to or during a spate of so-called xenophobic violence. South Africans, Ethiopians, Somalians, Mozambicans and Asians and perhaps one or two other nationalities are the only ones who have lost their lives in such incidents.
The Nigerian media and people should stoo misinforming themselves, Nigerians and the world. The majority of Nigerians are killied by Nigerians. Yes a few have died in police custody but South Africans do also die in police custody. Such cases are investigated by an indepedent body called Independent Police Investigative Directorate and the culprits are punished in accordance with our laws. Nigeria can be given access to the files.
The other important thing that Nigerians need to know is that we are diligent when it comes to statistics. According to StatsSA, "South Africa has seen a 1 320 increase in murders, from 19 016 in 2016/2017 to 20 336 in 2017/2018. An average of 57 people are killed a day in the country, 46 of which are men, eight women and two children. This shows an increase from the average of 52 murder deaths a day in 206/2017." All the people who die daily are SAs and once in a while a Nigerian is murdered, not necessarilly by SAs or other Nigerians, possibly by SA based criminals from other countries. We are all potential victims of crime.
Nigerian criminals should not be allowed to use the xenophobia card to mobilize Nigerians and the world to unknowingly support their fraud, counterfeit goods, baby factory, drug and human trafficking activities in SA. They also not be allowed cause irreparable damage to bilateral relations between SA and Nigeria. This is a time when we desperately need leadership, sober-mindedness and wisdom on both the SA and Nigerian side. The Nigerian side should be careful not to be negatively influenced by Trumpism. Our two countries need each other and our continent needs sound and warm relations to subsist between Nigeria and South Africa.

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Travel / Re: Nigeria missing from the New list of countries to visit SouthAfrica without VISA by Miaraka: 11:28am On Sep 27, 2018
I'm impressed by Runalong and some of the Nigerians who are sober minded and sound quite knowledgeable with respect to the subject matter and relations between SA and Nigeria. Our two countries need to cooperate and even integrate to maximise our capacity to function as the engine for the development of the African continent.
No doubt about it, Nigerians have a very bad reputation here. A few Nigerian criminals have denigrated the image of a whole nation, not only here by the way, around the globe. You have great scientists, cultural activists, Super Eagles, etc but everywhere one goes, people find it hard not to say, "....but are you sure he's different?"
Our people don't hate foreigners, neither do they hate Nigerians. They hate crime and criminals. If they believe, correctly or wrongly, that you are a criminal, it doesn't matter where you come from, South Africa or Nigeria, young or old, they deal with you mercilessly and wickedly. I have videos to prove that but they are too graphic to post or to view.
The greatest majority of Nigerians live, study work and do business here peacefully. When our daughters tell us they want to mary Nigerians, we give them the go ahead. Please send more women. There are too many men. Maybe that's one of the reasons behind the challenges we face. I wouldn't have a problem, if my son wanted to marry a Nigerian girl.
Crime / Re: Commotion In South Africa, As Two Nigerians Get Murdered In Cold Blood (Pics) by Miaraka: 3:53pm On Sep 01, 2018
Chauke:

Chauke, whatever nationality - South African, Nigerian, Mozambican, Zimbabwean, you have no right to call another country a zoo. At least do please mention you're saying this in your name, not South Africans, especially not in the name of those of us who sacrificed our childhood and youth fighting for the freedom of our country from apartheid. For your information, most Nigerians who are here are students, specialists, business people and you won't find them throwing their weight and being arrogant all over the place or committing crime like the minority you seem to be exposed to. I studied, lived, worked and worshiped God with Nigerians in Nigeria, SA, Zambia, and Europe. I know what I'm talking about.





Nobody invited a nigerian infestation in South Africa,most of these Nigerians add no value to the overall development of South Africa except a very small number of them,the rest are escaping that backward zoo.
Crime / Re: Commotion In South Africa, As Two Nigerians Get Murdered In Cold Blood (Pics) by Miaraka: 9:46am On Sep 01, 2018
Mr Adetola NUSA, I don't like your style of reporting the killings of Nigerians in my country in such a way that Nigeria and the world are bound to think that Nigerians are the only people getting killed here, that we are targeting them, that they are all innocent and that all Nigerians who get killed here are killed by South Africans. I'm convinced that you are engaged in the business of mobilising the Nigerian nation to hate the people of South Africa and regard our country as their enemy. In whose interest are you doing this? Surely this can't be in the interests of the majority of Nigerians who live, work and study here comfortably and in peace. 49 people get killed here everyday. Have you asked yourself how many of them are Nigerian or African immigrants? In case you don't know, they are in almost all cases black South African.

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Education / Re: Lotachi Onyenam Wins 16 Awards From University Of Cape Coast by Miaraka: 9:19am On Sep 01, 2018
Arda1000:
i know its hard for u to accept but if there are any other black race more brilliant than the igbos within nija or outside tell us
Stop being childish and exposing infantile disorder. God didn't allocate talent according to tribe or race. This is not about you. Just congratulate the young lady and send her a present or shut up.
Education / Re: University Of Limpopo Students Walkout Of Exam Hall Over Difficult Questions by Miaraka: 3:11pm On Aug 30, 2018
vaxx:
I will like to have a look at the question.
I support that. Let them "democratise" the test/exam so that we can all see what these students mean by difficult. Maybe we can help them answer the questions.
Politics / Re: How Boko Haram Is Funded – United Nations by Miaraka: 12:07pm On Aug 16, 2018
We've always known the information the UN is presenting to the world. It's also not a secret that some powerful countries are behind the insurgency. Please don't play games with us UN Security Council. You know which countries are financing Boko Haram, Islamic State and Alqaeda in the various forms that you have described. Expose these countries, impose an embargo on them, close the accounts that are being used to channel funds to the terrorists. Oh but how can the mastermind impose sanctions against himself? Nigeria, you're on your own. Some of the countries which appear to be interested in helping you to fight and defeat Boko Haram are the authors of your problem. Their strategic objective is to divide Nigeria into 3 independent states and with the help of Boko Haram and other forces they are succeeding in making you like the idea. Some of you have started believing that the idea is your own and you like it. But it's their idea. They're afraid of a united, peaceful Nigeria because it's likely to be too powerful to contain and exploit and can be a "very bad" influence on the African continent, particularly if it combines forces with South Africa in the pursuance of Africa's best interests.
Health / Re: Russia Accuses Bill Gates Of Engineering The Zika Virus As A ‘Bioweapon’ by Miaraka: 3:07pm On Feb 14, 2016
Clone2020:
Conspiracy theorists. How many famous philanthropists are Russians? Upon Russia has the 2nd highest number of billionaires in the world. Their own is to cause trouble here and there, invade countries and seize land mass with force and coercion. You hear of American billionaires giving away 99% of their entire wealth to charity or global initiatives like Bill & Melinda Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, T Boone Pickens, George Soros, Walton family, Michael Bloomberg Etc. You will never hear about these greedy Russians doing anything to improve the world. They are still living in the cold war Era.

If not for the fact they have nuclear weapons in their arsenal, America would've obliterated them by now. They are cowards, hiding behind nukes because they know nobody wants an outright nuclear war that would end the world as we know it. In a conventional war without nukes, Russia will be crushed.
Who's been feeding you all this nonsense? You sound like a brainless Zombie. Which country, from time immemorial, has ever been invaded and colonised by Russia or the former Soviet Union? The Red Army or Russian army has never invaded or seized other people's countries or land by force. They only get involved if invited by soivereign governments or if attacked. Ask the French and the Germans. They will tell you what happened when they invaded Russia. In two separate wars, centuries apart, against the French and Germans, the Russians fought and drove their enemies back to Paris and Berlin, respectively. Which countries were colonised by the Russians? None. Which countries are financing and arming ISIS, Boko Haram and other terrorist groups in order to divide and distabilise your own Nigerian nation so that you'll forever remain poor and dependent? Why have your famous philanthropists not helped and your almighty friends who never invade other people's countries not help you find the Chibok girls. If they love you so much as you think, why have they not come into Nigeria and obliterated Boko Haram for you? Is Russia one of the countries which keeps the billions of dollars stolen from your national coffers? Is it Russia that thoughtlessly sent terrorist groups into Lybia with the sole purpose of overthrowing Colonel Ghadaffi, replacing him with puppets and taking control of Lybian oil and gas? These questions and many others I could ask you are too complicated and complex for you. Please go back to sleep, Zombie.

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