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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:26pm On Jun 13, 2018
Mujtahida:
I know that mathematically this makes it possible but could they be other causes? Football has too much European flavour and I contend that we cannot beat them by playing the game they way they(Europeans) have structured it.
When I make reference to a good African coaches I always use Siasia.

a cursory look at that 2008 Olympics shows everything that Africa needs to excel. First of all we do not need a foreign coach, there is a bone in the foot which Europeans call Os Magnum but here we have another name for it. So it is in every field, what they know from their cradle is way way different from the basics we learn here. so how do you expect a foreign coach to be able to make use of our own basics while teaching us? The few White men who have come close to learning this have flourished way more than expected with lesser talented teams. Let the truth be told as at 1994 we did not have that much talent in our squad, most were raw players who later developed into good players during the 1998 World Cup but we had a far better tournament in 1994, Why? Because the coach in 1994 was one of the few guys who knew how the basics of African football. He was one of the few that understood that Africans had egos so he tried as much as possible to let that flow. There was a conversation I had with Siasia a long time ago and he said that the coach would come to....say Okocha and tell him something like ' you know you are a way better dribbler than Amuneke, show what you have', he will go to Amuneke and tell him ' you know you can easily bully your way through defences unlike that tiny Okocha with brown hair, show what you got'. In these two statements he has managed to tap into each man's ego but under this he still maintains this kind of strict African parental care which the players then were used to. He didn't care about the formation that other teams are playing, he used the one that he knew would suit our ability to run from 0-90mins. Trust me if this 3-5-2 formation was available then he would have used it or even a 3-4-3 to fully utilise out ability to run and also give our flair players the opportunity to express themselves and if he had cracked that then, that match against Italy would have easily been a 4-0 scoreline never mind that 1-2 loss. If Westerhoff had been able to take Nigeria to another CAF he would have won it again because he had imbibed the African basics and he totally ignored the European style of football. Another coach who has seemingly imbibed this African basic is Harve Renard and that's why he can take any team now to the summit of African football, trust me if he had the talent we have in this present super eagles squad, making the semifinals would have been very very possible. Beside all that, only a few African coaches sef understand that we have our basics too which they need to consider when coaching African teams. Imagine person like Amuneke wan coach Nigeria like we are Barcelona. it may work for U17 players who do not have any club, no ego and no stand but when they start getting clubs and the ego starts setting in he will fail, forget the tactics. He may go to a European club and start performing wonders no problem but not with our national team. Keshi and Siasia are perfect examples of people that have been able to inculcate those African basics into their coaching. If only they could eliminate greed and pick players based on form and merit we wouldn't be needing any foreign coach at all. For a normal European social media life has nothing to do with your performance, for us Africans social media has led to a greater failure rates in school, so a foreign coach may come and lay absolutely no emphasis on social media life thinking it has no business with our performance but then it does. In their club sides were they know that they need to perform else they will get kicked out how many of them have the time to post these number of pictures that they have been posting? that's one part of the reasons.



then we come down to tactics. What works for us? in the three world cups that we have performed well our wingers and SS have been very good, never mind the strikers themselves. Players like Babatunde and Osaze were the main reasons why we got to the round of 16 in 2014. But who are our wingers presently? Which of them can damage opponents? Victor Moses isn't even much of a threat to me and when you consider that we have like 4 or 5 other terrific wingers who could cause serious damage you start to wonder if the coach does not know what works for us. Is Iwobi a terrific winger? OK he is a good SS why still play him in that wing role? destroying two buildings at once. Emenike did not score a single goal at the World Cup and neither did Yakubu score from open play in 2010 and who was the main striker in 1998? many may recall the name because he is popular not because he did anything important in that tournament so this criticism of Ighalo is pointless to me, so long as he puts in a good shift for the team I am okay. Again the coach has the option of playing a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 which would give us the ability to run and run and use that to our advantage but he decides to stick with a 4-2-3-1 formation? no need saying more.




Finally team chemistry. You won't get that by playing together for two weeks, probably Hummels and Boateng will be the first choice CBs for Germany, two players that started playing together from U20 and are in the same club. Ramos and Pique, players who study each other every week since they play in the same league. I can assure you that Balogun has never even watched Ekongs matches for his club side never mind the fact that they have hardly played together for 6-7 times. The only semblance to team chemistry that we have is between Onazi and Mikel which is why till today Onazi performs better with Mikel no argument but that alone will not work since we now play with Mikel higher up the pitch. In football, national teammates actually influence the movement of players, De Gea wanted to go back to Madrid because of that, Neymar to PSG and some others. but presently how many clubs have more than one Nigerian team? I wouldn't blame anybody for that though.


In conclusion I believe the right mixture of team chemistry, proper tactics and proper tactician/manager/team father would be enough for us to win the world cup
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:59pm On Jun 13, 2018
safarigirl:
this is like saying if you see a gay person, you would know. It's highly untrue

Some people are younger than they look and some are older. At my old age, I see some people I am older than, and I genuinely think they are older, especially with guys

The only thing that made me suspect Ndidi is older than 22 is that his girlfriend that I remember saying she looks 26. Oga tbaba, however, posited that some people look older than their age. Which is true


A video emerged of JJ Okocha yesterday, when he was doing some neat football tricks and someone joked that "he is still balling at the ripe old age of 63"..... Hr was trying to tease Nigerians who must have said back then that Okocha is in his forties.

In 20 years time, I will make this same joke about one of these boys that you people are doubting.


We are used to Nigerians always doubting their players and their ages. Mikel saw the same thing happen to him, so, it is normal.
no offence oh but if you train constantly for years even when you get to 70 you'd still be agile. Okocha is claiming that he is same age with his wife, that's funny in Nigeria
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:32pm On Jun 13, 2018
andrew444:
If mikel obi senior onazi for real age na small gap
grin this man sef
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:54am On Jun 13, 2018
forgiveness:
No wonder most of the 2011 don fade commot. Only few are still doing well.
As in eh, they just dey believe that this MRI is something directly from God that cannot be argued
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:51am On Jun 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
Nope, MRI only became compulsory in 2011. In 2009, it was done randomly like drug tests. So several players fell through the cracks.

The 2013 and 2015 under 17 teams are all young boys...
I can assure you that hardly any of the 2009 set was truly below 20 in fact. I agree that the 2013 set was considerably young but I can assure you that someone saying they are close to 25/26 wouldn't exactly be lying. Before you come up with 'their pictures from a few years back looks young-ish', I can assure you that most times poor diet and some other stuffs can lead to slow development which eventually gets exposed when their diets improve. Person for no believe say Onazi don pass his age in 2011 when he wasn't raking in big bucks
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:18am On Jun 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
I know that age cheating is widespread in Nigeria but i disagree with the bolded statement. Ekong and Idowu are 25 and 26. There is no way Iheanacho, Uzoho, Awaziem and Ndidi are 25 and 26. Iheanacho grew up in the system so he is definitely younger than that. Iheanacho, Uzoho and even Ndidi passed MRI tests in 2012/2013. Even in the worst case scenarios, they are not that old.

Even from their mannerisms, you can tell the small boys in camp. Iheanacho, Awaziem, Iwobi, Ndidi, Uzoho all act like young boys...
if I remember correctly MRI started in 2009 right? With Fortune Chukwudi's set? That should tell you everything you need to know about MRI testing in Sub-saharan Africa. In fact a well grounded Radiographer would tell you not to take that serious in Nigeria
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:15am On Jun 13, 2018
AIG07:
hahaha. Thanks for this.


To be frank, I won't be this optimistic had it mean we won all our friendly matches. Nigeria national teams are known to be complacent when they start to have things go their way. We would have gone into this tournament believing that we will defeat any team that cross our path.

TThe players will be on every page of the newspaper talking on how they will massacre their opponents. They will tell their coaches that they should not worry, that the group stage is already done and dusted. News about their escapades, missing players, fights etc would have been our spotlight.

But now, everyone is sober and the players are calm and focused. They know they need to do more to make their outing memorable. I trust them to make us smile.


Let's be on the lookout for a memorable Mundial.
Losing all your friendlies isn't the problem at all, it's losing your friendlies the way we did. Abysmal first periods and a slightly above average second periods which seems like outstanding periods because of how poor our first periods are. So you can't really compare that to....say before the 2014 WC when we outplayed France, did same to Scotland(a game where even Uchebo was unplayable, lol). However I am sure we can all agree that friendlies aren't the real deal, we just hope, in this case, that those friendlies aren't a precursor of what is to come which is why we are still supporting the team. Saturday isn't far
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:08am On Jun 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
I feel that we need to get the first goal. If we get the first goal, i will back us to see it through.
Greece 2010 comes to mind. Saturday isn't far though
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:56am On Jun 12, 2018
soetanoreoluwa:
Nairaland 23 Man Squad with Technical crew



Goalkeepers

1.Bascovanveli
2. edi287
3. Danielninono

Defenders

4.Lexyman
5.Napeleon55
6.Taliban
7.AIG
8.Komekm
9.davep
10. maidaboi
11. omanbala

Midfielders

12. Certitude
13. Humility
14. Safarigirl
15. darkelf
16. bolowolowo
17.solonnachi

Strikers

18.Metaljigsaw
19.icon79
20.Realpoacher
21.Goke7
22.klexycole
23.Krattoss

Technical crew

Coach
Icon4s

Assistant Coach 1

Kog45

Assistant coach 11

Goodjoe

Assistant coach 111

TheSupernerd

Goalkeeper Trainer

Tbaba1234

Medical Team

Michael2
Dr kclever

Fitness Trainers

Captainstephen
Andrew444
goldenfish80

Team Psychologists

Mujtahida
Congo4ka grin

Video Analysts

Joebie

Team scouts

Chriskels
Forgiveness
Charlesemeka

Logistics and protocols

Elyte
Loogan

media Officer

soetanoreoluwa grin

Incase you are not selected keep working hard AFCOn 2019 is fast approaching grin

If you like shout corruption and Wayo Wayo... grin

Incase you are doubting the selection kindly ask questions

Technical crew should set up the game plan.

Just hope the team will be able to work together to bring the cup home grin

2 days to World Cup... I can't wait grin
grin reporting for duty

But medical team get any tactical input?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:06pm On Jun 08, 2018
lexyman:
the Iceland i watched yesterday against Ghana , and other of their matches , i have concluded that we already have 3 points in our bag ..... if we can secure that 3 point against Croatia huh? which is very possible cos it's about who wins the battle of the midfield . i am optimistic that Eagles will have 6points or more at the end of the group stage .
in that first half against Ghana they were imperiously good then in the second half they relaxed and lost. Then again I thought we were the ones saying that we shouldn't use friendlies to determine the strength of a team
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:54pm On Jun 07, 2018
Icon4s:
You don't believe in this team. Sorry.
that is your believe, and that is quite frankly your business.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:56pm On Jun 07, 2018
Martz101:
i talked about this corner issue after the England game and metaljigsaw said very soon i will complain about there boot.

they are very poor at it, maybe lack of concentration, can't someone give them order and assign player to each of them, i always see that from a captain or a key defenders.
Rohr is using that to confuse our opponents so they will think corner kicks are our weak points
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:54pm On Jun 07, 2018
Icon4s:
Firstly, Look, there is no group or team that doesn't face challenges especially football teams. Not all get out to the public domain. You cannot as an outsider know exactly about all the challenges a team faces or faced. Get that clear.

And on players going against the coach's instructions, it is a common occurrence. They are not robots. They are the ones on the field of play and their footballing instincts sometimes tell them what to do and it is not all only about what instructions the coach has passed down. Sometimes the coach allows the players that little bit of freedom to use their footballing(especially for professionals) instinct at certain situations. I don't know the level to which you played football. But I am telling you based on my knowledge of football both as a player and as a coach.

And please this course you have chosen will not make you enjoy the WC. You have put your self in a position whereby if Nigeria should beat Croatia you you will not know how to face peeps here.

Calm down bro. Just believe. There is no harm in it. Even if we lose will that take food away from your table? You have nothing to lose if you believe and the team fails.

We are fans need to stand together for the team now.
Quick question, so because I said the team has been poor that means I am against the team? I didn't want to say anything not until people started saying that Rohr is using these losses to confuse our opponents,, like that is totally wrong. you may say that we will pick up when the tournament starts proper, that us absolutely true. Like when I was in medical school, we played three friendlies and lost all by a combined score of 9-2 but when the college cup started proper we were invincible so yes it happens. That's my point here, just get that clear. I totally believe in the team which is why I make out time to come here and discuss about the team
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:23pm On Jun 07, 2018
Icon4s:
See, sometimes players go against coaches' instructions but you saying they made players selections by themselves was a big fat lie.
it is one thing going against the coach's instruction( let's say the coach told you to be running inwards as the winger and you decide to be hugging the byline) and its another thing entirely for you to change your entire formation on your own. They definetly didn't just come up with the formation that day, they must have tried it in training on their own and decided it was the best. The fact that you do not know the difficulties that plagued that 98 team is...well either you are trying to deny the fact or it's just disappointing coming from you, no offence
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:20am On Jun 07, 2018
Certitude:
I was expecting you to come with the usual denigrating of the team, coach and Onazi. What took you so long?
I wasn't going to say anything not until I started reading this nonsensical assumption that we are losing just to fool the other teams, how does that make sense
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:16am On Jun 07, 2018
Icon4s:
That comment you made about we not having a coach at France 98 and that players were making selections for themselves was a big fat baseless lie.

Let me point out sometime we lost to Paraguay in our last group game because we had already qualified and secured top spot and so the coach fielded his fringe players. Paraguay needed the win to go through and they got it. That game was 1-1 at half time and our boys just took their leg off the gas in the later stages of the game.

Now, what is your point in all these?

That Nigeria will crash out at the group stage? Well that is your expectation and hold on to it.

I have my own hopes and expectations and leave me with mine.
Discussion in 'Sports News' started by Chris Maduewesi,
Apr 8, 2014. Views count: 5208
0 Former Super Eagles player Garba Lawal has revealed how they went against the coach's instruction at the France 1998 World Cup to play to their own preferred pattern against Spain at the tournament.
Nigeria stunned bookmakers to record an impressive 3-2 victory over favourites,Spain in their first game at the tournament.
Incidentally Lawal was on the scoresheet for Nigeria that day,scoring from a tight angle with Mutiu Adepoju heading in one of the goals,and a thunderous strike from Sunday Oliseh securing the win over Spain.
Lawal said that then coach,Bora Milutinovic prepared them to play a 4-5-1 formation but they decided amongst them before their customary prayers not play to that tactics.
"The coach wanted us to play 451 but we knew that if we did that, we would have serious problems against Spain if we played with one striker. So we the players decided to play 442," Lawal was quoted as saying on Kickoffnigeria.com
"We changed the formation inside the field, before we prayed. And that was what worked for us.
"We know our normal game so we all decided to play what normally works for us," he added.
Lawal who was mainstay in the Eagles team during his active playing days however,advised players not to adopt that strategy.
"It's not something we will encourage the players to do. But if you all feel that the system is not comfortable, you have to change because





Like I told you, the talents got us that far in 1998, the problem now is that we don't have the talent so using that tournament as an example is inappropriate totally.

Well if you still do not understand then OK
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:39am On Jun 07, 2018
goldfish80:
First of all, having the ability of making critical analysis of what is in front of you is not defeatist mindset. Defeatist mindset is yielding to the opposition even before the fight began, I have been careful not to do this because I know Croatia, Iceland and the Argies have their own problems, but that doesn't mean I will the ostrich and deny the problems of our own team.

Saying this is "just a friendly" is not enough because history will always remind us 100 years from now that on the 6th of June, 2018 Nigeria lost to Czech Republic.
The example of the Siasia team loss to Denmark shouldnt be used as an excuse because a huge chunk of the members of the team didn't make it to Rio. Also the overraged players were not involved in that mini tournament. It is not the same scenario with this Super Eagles team that we know 98% of those who will make the team to Russia since January this year. Simy Nwankwo was just the sole gate crasher.

Finally, I wouldn't fall for using past examples to judge this team because it was a different scenario we have as compared to now. In 1998, we know the problem with the team, things like player animosity with each other, fights and disagreements over money, appointment of a new coach few months to the world cup. The scenario was totally different from what we have now.
The Super Eagles have never had it this good. These guys are flying on chattered flights, bonuses have been settled, no change of coaches, first class camping site and the same set of players. What's the excuse of these shabby performances?
The level of sentiments here is just....alarming.

I for one would expect Icon4s of all people to know that in 1998 due to our bad performances the players took over, in fact we virtually didn't have a coach, the team picked itself and played the way they wanted. We won against Spain but we lost our last two matches 3-1 to Paraguay and 4-1 to Denmark. Considering the talent in that team we should have performed better if we had a coach.


Now this team hardly possess the talent. It's bemusing that they will say that the team showed it's character against Argentina and the same set of people will say that friendly games don't matter. Czech were roundly humiliated by Australia but for some reason we(some) want to believe that the coach is hiding his preferred tactics, that's the most nonsensical deduction any sane human being could ever make. so the coach is making us lose these matches so we would be considered the underdogs? So what were we before? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Back then the talk was that Mikel would make our team better but we have passed African opponents. We have gotten to a stage where all eleven players matter and the coach's ineptitude has been laid bare but some want to believe that he is losing just so that we will be considered underdogs? I don't know if I should call that sentiments or outright stupidity. I do support the SE though but at least everyone knows I have had my reservations towards Gernot Rohr and others are starting to see why(just like I had with Onazi)
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:19pm On Jun 04, 2018
Icon4s:
Yes,we were not significantly better but we looked like the team that could get the next goal.
please I pray you remind me any good chance we had beside our goal.

By the way, Sterling could have scored, Dier had a good header too. That's two chances for England off the top of my head, I am waiting
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:08am On Jun 04, 2018
Joebie:
After watching that game at Wembley again, I must admit we didn’t own the second half.
In fact it was pretty even, they prolly created more chances than us. We just did far better than we did in the first half.
Finally someone else has seen it.

not to mention that this was an English team that was already two goals up, a poor English team none the less. If we play that same second half again against Croatia we will have nothing to show for it. Everybody is hailing our second half performance as if it was a very good performance but then it wasn't, it was just better than the shitshow we produced in the first half.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:59am On Jun 03, 2018
CLT123:
He did well as a lone striker agaisnt Cameroon. Scored as a sub.
I thought you were being serious. The one he started the bench? And came in with the match virtually won? I tire for this talk
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:59am On Jun 03, 2018
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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:56am On Jun 03, 2018
AIG07:
I think it's hi-time Rohr sits V. Moses down and let him understand the Mission of the team in Russia. Moses needs to see and put the team first ahead of any personal glory.

If Moses can assure him(ROHR) and the team to be discipline in any role given to him, I don't see a reason why he can't be played as a WB most especially a LWB(though have been against this all this while). Going forward, we need to have all hands on deck.

We can then Line-up this way. Still 3-5-2

UZOHO

EKONG(RCB)-BALOGUN(CB)-OMUERO(LCB)

EBUEHI(RWB)-NDIDI(DMF)-IWOBI(AMF)-MIKEL(CMF)-MOSES(LWB)

IHEANACHO(CF)-IGHALO(CF).

With this kind of set up, we should be able to stand our own ground against anyside. IDOWU can always deputise for both WBs.

Cc: TheGoodJoe, Kog45, Zuchyblinks, Mickael02, Joebie, Mujtahida, ChrisKels, Tbaba1234, Icon79, Mikron etc...
Quick question, why is VicMo at LWB?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:19am On Jun 03, 2018
zuchyblink:
had it been we applied the second half tactics from the beginning of the match, we wouldn't have lost the match. Our second half tactics caused them a lot of problems, they began to introduce defenders to hold onto the lead.
OK after we changed that formation Sterling still got a chance which he would have scored bit he dived, Eric Dier I believe still had a good header that just missed, from the first half or not they would have still created chances and they created chances even after we switched for to 3-5-2 even more than we did, and we were losing the match.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:17am On Jun 03, 2018
kellycute:
Oga accept am, you nor sabi the art of sarcasm! The point is very simple in goodjoe voice lol
the sarcasm was very very clear na, I mean he even wrote some words in capital letter just for reference and yet you didn't get the point?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:12am On Jun 03, 2018
kellycute:
i see!!! The English boys took their feet off the gas same way Argentina took their feet off the gas right? Even if we win any team 5:0 some people will surely play down our effort. So the English boys took their feet off the gas that was why we scored and not because of the change of formation? I jus dey look you like..
I will just ask you a simple question. Iwobi scored after 47 mins, so from 47-90mins that would amount to 43 mins, so could you please tell me one other good chance we created during that period?

This was a warm up match, the English coach would have changed formation but you are already two goals up what's the point? Besides I do hope you know that this isn't England's main tactics? They were using us to test four attacking players and we were just over ran at will
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:51am On Jun 03, 2018
kellycute:
exactly, that’s our weapon of mass destruction formation and all hands must be on deck to ensure our team perfect it. Southgate stood up the moment we changed formation to 3:5:2 Cos the English boys was literally chasing shadow.
how many chances did we create after we switched formation? Apart from the goal, which was kinda lucky anyways, we hardly created any chance whatsoever. The English boys were two up, they took their feet off the gas and we couldn't even muster one good final chance, in fact they probably should have even made it 3-1. So all the talk about the 3-5-2 doing this or that to the English team is hogwash for me
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:16am On Jun 03, 2018
Martz101:
now mikel don't have energy to play AM, where will he play, will his energy be enough to play DM.

stop making excuse for him, why didnt you say moses was tired too.

The truth is football is a team sport, you need somepeople to rise to the occasion when others are underperforming, iwobi proved to us he should be starting and mikel needs him around but if we go about judging players after each match then iwobi should have been dropped after Poland and serbia game because he was very poor.

Today i see people praising Etebo and now should be in the plane ahead of Onazi, this same people were complaining and predicting that he will be dropped.

make una take I'm easy on una analysis
I am going to guess you haven't played much football in your life so I will explain.

As an AMF you are a striker yet you are a midfielder. AMF is quite different from SS and rightly so. When you are playing as the AMF you need to defend when the team is defending and still be the first one to move the attack, that requires a huge amount of energy. When Mikel was playing the DMF position during the AFCON in 2013 he was hardly ever subbed, recently in all the games he has played as an AMF he always gasses out, that should tell you how tasking that role is for him and without proper rest his effectiveness will diminish.


Playing a standing four in a double pivot does not require much energy and that's why he can still perform there till now. The coach however needs to decide if he will be the standing DMF or the roaming DMF because I totally so not believe that Ndidi can be the standing DMF ever.


For the record I have always told everybody that Etebo is good, always has been. And I have always said that Onazi is past his prime, I have always said that. so next time before you make that kinda reference, please check the moniker well
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:11am On Jun 03, 2018
Jarus:
I like your last sentence.

Drogba used power against any team - Europe, Africa - getting good goal returns in clubs and national team, where he scored more than 50 goals in CIV jersey, although his WC performances were not flattering.

Same with Yakubu. Good scoring ratio for club and country.

If you are a power playing striker, use it anywhere.

When you are easily caught up in simple caging of your midfielders, there s a problem.

As bad as Yakubu was, he sometimes temporarily changed to the wings to get better supplies if supplies were not coming from middle and he cut one or two defenders to score goals.

Drogba even sometimes dropped deeper into his own half.

Ighalo should learn to do more too.

Power is an asset to him, but he could do better. The era of standing 9 is gradually fading.

PS: The coach, based on post-match press conference, was satisfied with his performance. He might have ayed strictly to instruction
the coach needs to instruct him to do more. the simple fact if the matter is that Ighalo is probably our best bet, we haven't tried Simy enough and only God knows why but when compared with Nacho Ighalo is the better choice by a mile
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:09am On Jun 03, 2018
CLT123:
Iheanacho scored 2 goals in a match as a lone striker for Leicester.
I would ask the match then you'd probably tell me against Leeds united and I would say oh Leeds grin

I asked in reference to the national team sha, that's our yardstick isn't it anymore?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:05am On Jun 03, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Ighalo has not performed way way better than Nacho as a lone striker. Algerian coach said it that Nacho was the reason we won. You are only looking at chances and goal, forgetting the game has gone way beyond that.

Ighalo can not and will never offer the kind of movement Nacho gave us against Algeria. If jam body and fight is what you tag performing way way better, Gabriel Jesus would never wear nine for Brazil.
So after all the movement against Algeria how many times did our midfielders feed him? None. he was anonymous. If jam body will give you goals against Cameroon then come and continue doing it, I mean what does Drogba do?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:47am On Jun 03, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Talk like an analyst than saying he failed woefully.

I have pointed out a simple way to identify how ruthless Iheanacho can be but most of you have decided to keep your eyes blind to a simple point.

In the game against South Africa most people criticized Iheanacho, people missed a blatant fact. Iheanancho made some devastating runs that put the South African defence under pressure. However, the passes that would have helped us score where poor. That is not the striker not playing poorly but the midfield not delivering. Watch the runs and the chances would have gotten, will show you Iheanacho's strength.

In the game against Algeria, even the coach told you Iheanacho was the reason we lost but you have chosen to bury your head in a sand of lies to keep the false doctrine of Iheanacho can not operate alone upfront.

In today's game, Nacho dropped deep to help spread the ball, kept the defenders under pressure and also kept pickford under pressure. This gave us more chances to win the ball. Tell us a better option to play to cause such effect. Because, I see no solutions from you.
so after Nacho came on did we have a single bonafide chance? At least Ighalo was involved in the goal somehow
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:37am On Jun 03, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Is Ighalo Ronaldo. Your writing empty things here without making any point. I have lifted attributes why Iheanacho is the better pick. Heck, today, he offered better movement and touches upfront than Ighalo. Why the hell should Ighalo be the better choice?

I have said it, with more movement up front, the midfield has better options to pick better passes.

Iheanacho has led the line for Guardiola and Guardiola mostly plays with a man upfront and Iheanacho has done well. So I wonder all these when has Iheanacho played well as a long striker upfront.

Mertens shows that build and strength is not the only way to go with a striker upfront.

How that equates to Iheanacho being Mertens beats my imagination.
No offence Sir but you really do not have any point.


I am very very sure that you are part of the 'national team form' committee so I ask again, has Nacho ever performed well as a lone striker in the GWG? The answer, if you are being sincere is a resounding NO. Has Ighalo performed well as a lone striker for us? Way way better than Nacho has ever managed. Against Algeria the midfielders couldn't find any pass for Nacho and you came and gave us a long speech about pressing, utterly useless speech it was no offence. Against South Africa the same thing happened and you came back and blamed the midfield, yet against Cameroon Ighalo barely got 4 good chances and scored, if he wasn't mobile how did the midfielder find him? Baba, it's 00:37, you probably had a hectic day no?

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