₦airaland Forum

sontoly:
Honestly, he had a decent game, he was always coming to the middle, and remember he was played out of position, even ndidi was worse when he played RB against Zambia in the world cup qualifiers.

He has been playing in that position for FC Porto since he moved there, the excuse is poor. I mean that's the same thing we say when Iwobi flops in the same position that he has been playing for Arsenal since

SlayerForever:
Personally, I do not believe Rohr is big on playing a False 9 He played Musa/Iheanacho as strikers against Iceland with Iheanacho behind Musa in a support role,not false 9s[b](I don't even know if you can have 2 False 9s in a team).[/b] Observe that Rohr is keen on getting another outright 9 hence Simy and Lokosa got call ups against DRC. Playing a False 9 is a very tactical approach. I don't think Rohr is big on it.

Very very impossible my brother, I mean it cannot be done. But then again he wants to believe that we play a double false 9 in a two man attack

Icon4s:
China you said?

Red hot in China but repeatedly proven to be Ice cold in the SE.

I never said red hot with respect to this or that. I said he is in red hot form and quite simply that is true. Do we have another striker with a better goals to game ratio right now?

Icon4s:
Hahaha. Bros, That 3-5-2 formation against Iceland we deployed 2 false 9 in Iheanacho and Musa. Each of them played the role intermittently.

Many at time peeps here think the midfield is just around the center Circle. The midfield also extends to the flanks.

A false 9 typically falls deep into the midfield and also joins the attack. He is just an attacking midfielder that also runs into CF positions. Now note that an AM must not always play centrally. We can have an AM playing from the sides. Which is more like what Iwobi does in the SE and also under Wenger.

As I said, these things are not automated. It depends on how the coach has set up the team and defined roles for the players. Rohr did not play a recognized CF in that Iceland game. Musa and Iheanacho were used as false 9 interchangeably.

Modified: since you said Musa was always on the wings, in what position was he when he got that pass for that first goal?

No offence but you are getting it all totally wrong. A false 9 IS NOT an attacking midfielder running into the CF position, rather he is a CF running into the attacking midfield position. Those are two distinct patterns, one is running forward whilst one is running backwards. When you play two forwards one almost always drops into the position that Ahmed Musa was operating from and it is called the SS position not a false 9 position, I mean that was what Anelka used to do at Chelsea, they are not even remotely connected to each other and it is quite funny you are equating the two. As an AMF you can go to any side to detect play, even before Iwobi we had even Di Maria operating as a wide AMF like in that champions league final against Atletico, that one is totally different but a false 9 is a rather distinct position. In conclusion Iheanacho and Musa were playing the SS role not the false 9 role please.


to answer your question I could ask you where was Dembele when Messi gave him that pass with which he scored against Chelsea. Or maybe where do you normally see Ronaldo during games? Are they also false 9s? A good coach will tell you that your formation is rigid until you enter the final third of the pitch then you can start being creative with your movements, even if it means a RB occupying a CFs position so long as it is effective. Okay his second goal was scored from which position?

Icon4s:
Who is red Hot? Ighalo?

Ighalo has proven to be grossly incompetent in the GWG, I would take the chance of seeing what Simmy can offer.

Is he not currently the highest goalscorer in China??

Icon4s:
Chairman, all those 4 players I listed can play as false 9. A false 9 may not only occupy a space created by the opposing DMF. These things are not automated like you are playing a PS game. A false 9 can also play from wide positions. Note also that a team must not have just one player as a false 9.

Ahmed Musa cannot play as a false 9 yet he put 2 pass Iceland as a false 9.

Musa's game against Iceland was not from a false 9 position. That is not what a false 9 is, that is just a perfect example of a fluid 3-5-2 turning into a 3-4-3 because Moses was joining the attack. That was not a false 9 play at all, Musa was almost always on the wing and from that you can see that he was in now way a false 9. Let's just say he was a mobile forward drifting to the wings but calling him a false 9 in that role is a NO NO

Icon4s:
A good post and good questions.

Now see, If I want to play a lone striker, how would I continue to hope on an unproductive striker like Ighalo when I have an option of Simmy Nwankwo on the bench?

How many times do I want to play Ighalo to confirm that he is not prolific in front of goal? Throw in Simmy and let's see. After all this is Seychelles.

Now talking about the false 9. Not as if the team is completely alien to it. We played with it in some of the games leading to the WC and some WC games. And it proved to be our most attack threatening option.

Yes, Ahmed Musa may not function optimally as a CF but he has proven himself in the false 9 position.

Ighalo's positioning is terrible.
I understand if we say "yes he is bad but available options are few". Not that we should be defending him claiming he does hold up play. Ighalo's goals return is terrible. Ighalo does not pose any threat upftont. He does not test any goalkeeper.

The only time I ever advocated for Ighalo because of his holdup play was against Cameron way back then and it worked. Simy Nwankwo has how many goals in the Serie A this season? There is no way any coach would start him over a red-hot Ighalo, that is one of the laws of nature. If we have Simy averaging like 10-15 goals per season then we can call his name but he isn't, and that's the reason. It is currently clear that we are short of options in that department presently.


Quick question, based on your definition of a false 9, what did Musa play against Iceland? A false 9?

Icon4s:
All 3 of Iwobi, Iheanacho and Musa can function as false 9. I can now also add Onyekuru.

They can drop deep and beat their man in tight space. Besides, spaces are not tight all the time, forwards should not always aim at tight space they or other players can create the space for them to operate.

When you play as a false 9 that means you have to drop into the hole originally occupied by the opposing team's DMF there is absolutely no space around that area. First of all Musa CANNOT function as a false 9, from his style of play you can see that. How will Iheanacho who can hardly beat his man function as a false 9? If you play Iheanacho as a false 9 then he will continue drifting backwards until he starts playing as a 10 all over again and the function becomes null. Do not make me laugh, Onyekuru as a false 9? There is a big difference between beating your man all ends up around the touchline and actually having to drift through 2-3 players in the middle of the field. If you think Onyekuru can function maximally in a tight space then you really need to start watching him more often.

Like I said only Iwobi comes close to that role but his finishing abilities is a great negative for him presently.

darkelf:
Bros, I'm so convinced that anybody is better than ighalo right now IMO.

That's how poorly that dude has turned out for the SE so far.

That I will totally agree with if we are willing to change our formation to suit that other person, but can you trust Rohr to change his formation? Give Rohr anyother type of player and what you will get will be the same game Iheanacho had against SA, dry and poor by every means and then he will come to a press conference and tell you how we need more presence up top and Ighalo is back

Certitude:
Hope you had it in mind that the false 9 is different from a non striker playing 9. I felt chief meant the latter. Any of our forward would do better than Ighalo. As for hiring a tactician, you can apply.

My idea of a false 9 is a striker who drops deep, collects the ball and makes something happen with it. Now dropping deep means you will get crowded out, can you trust any of our present players to beat their man in a tight space?? Neither Iheanacho nor Musa can do that, Iwobi can but does he have the other attributes of a false 9?? I dont think so.

If however there is another style of false 9 then I am willing to learn.

Icon4s:
See me o. What is the essence of having a striker that cannot score goals?

3 competitive goals out of which 2 are from penalty spot. And some see nothing wrong in this?

In all my years of followership of the national team we have never had it this bad in the striking position. Thank God for players like Ahmed Musa, Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses who are not even natural strikers.

Even Iheanacho too has been disappointing.

I don't even want to go way back as the 80s and 90s. Let me mention a generation that almost everyone here can identify with: in the 2000s there was a time we had strikers like: Yakubu, Martins, Ike Uche, Osaze, Utaka, and Nsofor all in one squad. We were so rich in that department that we played Utaka, Nsofor and Osaze mostly from the Wings while Yakubu, Martins and Uche justle for the CF position.

Emmanuel Emenike was our last striker. Since after he dipped in his own form we have never had a number 9 again. Keshi brought in Gbolahan Salami and Aaron Samuel, 2 power strikers but where those ones day today?

Oliseh brought in Ighalo and brought back Ideye. Na just hold up play them say dem just wan do. Dem no dey fit test keeper.

It is better we just be playing with false 9s until a natural number 9 emerges.

If I remember correctly you are the advocate of 'manage what we have'. I believe you have at least rudimentary experience in coaching and I am sure you know that 99% of coaches have a standard formation which they always fall back on especially when the national team is involved. Moreover you do know that virtually no successful national team plays with a false 9? The training you have to undergo to field a false 9 is impossible to achieve in a short while,I remember when we tried it in our medical games and the movement of our 'false 9' confused even the CBs and we had 4 weeks to train with a proper coach and the dude was talented.

So first off, who is currently the striker who can precisely fit into a 4-2-3-1 which is virtually what we play nevermind the 4-3-3 you see? Don't say we can switch to a 3-5-2 because you know that is just a backup and the coach draws his list with preference to players that can execute that 4-2-3-1 formation, so please point out another player that can function there. Musa isn't exactly the type of player that can function maximally without the ball, you can see that most of his goals from 2014 are all as a result of playing the ball to his feet in space, do you have space as a single striker against 2 rough African CBs? Please do not even mention Iheanacho. Back in those days we had coaches who were actually tacticians, you can see Keshi switching tactics to play Ameobi as a CF today and then Martins next week, right now all we have is a German stiff-neck who arranges his team in the same 4-2-3-1 formation everyday then goes to sleep on the sideline, even if Rohr was appointed in the 2000s he still would have phased out Uche and other small out and out strikers then who could not play without the ball.

Then who exactly can operate as our false 9? Again don't mention Iheanacho it has already failed before, ok maybe Musa, but he is not creative enough for that role at all, who else? Even if we crack that part, a false 9 formation only works well with CFs disgusied as wingers, when Messi was playing as a false 9 he had Henry and Villa at the wings, original CFs, so which of our CFs now can play the the Villa/Henry role well? Will our false 9s be effective enough to create chances for the CFs? There is a reason why Chelsea's false 9 approach with Hazard as the false 9 and Willian(another conventional winger) as one of the supposed CFs who should benefit from the pockets of space left by the false 9. So saying get rid of Ighalo without a proper replacement is going to trigger a chain of events that currently we cannot afford. So until we get rid of that imposter parading as a coach and hire an actual tactician who can use our players well enough just get used to Ighalo or Ighalo type strikers

BascoVanVeli:
I think Stoke City's problem ran deeper than players because they had individual talent in that squad, just couldn't put it all together

The managerial change midway through didn't help matters either. Personally I think Stoke and Swansea are a level or two above the other championship teams and will easily make it back to the premier league if they can be consistent, the championship lasts longer than the Epl

forgiveness:
Then stop passing falsehood. Ok!

Kelechi Nwakali started 3 games.

What did Kelechi Nwakali do with the three starts out of the 9 games he played?

How can I worry about a player who moved from Vitesse straight to Liverpool?

I think we should worry about a player who moved from Eredivisie to Dutch division and now to Segunda Liga. A league lower than Socttich league.

Toh we have been hearing since that he didn't have enough time to impress, but somehow he got 296 minutes out of a possible 810 which means he played for 37% of the time, if you can't achieve a single assist from the said time as an attacking midfielder then we have a problem.

Another issue is that he is playing as a side midfielder in Porto B now, in the long run will he be our saviour in the AMF position?

darkelf:
Guys, Livescore gave today's assist to James Maddison instead. I guessed he had a slight touch before the ball got to Rachid Ghezzal

That is very very sad, but so long as Nacho doesn't take it to heart and builds on this momentum(no matter how they want to take it away from him), probably next natch he will start from the bench but if he can make even more of his next sub appearance we are onto something. forget that stats for now

Joebie:
Kai, C.Nwakali permanent move to Poland division 2 side? This one weak me o.

They are actually a good team, by next season he would be playing in the first tier I can assure you and by then it would be an awesome decision.

SlayerForever:
Well,for the records I've never attacked Komekn on his arguments. And for a reason. Komekn is not always wrong actually. Komekn can be very unashamedly bias (especially towards English football) but atimes his judgement is right,especially when he's talking player development and league strength. Mind you,league 1 is not better than Dutch league,that one na lie.

Obviously League 1 is not better than the dutch league, but saying the Portuguese division 2 is better than the Scottish league is even more absurd

SlayerForever:
Portugal 2nd tier can not be higher than Scottish football. Please stop that. Seems you don't know the actual level of the Portuguese football. It's low level football. Much more lower.

Just imagine Komekn using this same argument to prove that League 1 is better than Dutch league and the type of abuse he will receive. The way we change pur goalposts here eh

chrisooblog:
like i've always argued most of our arguments boils down to why is my average or below average player not considered instead of your or their average player. until nigeria starts producing enough standout talents playing in top european clubs we will never agree on why or how players were picked.

now to the cases you specifically mentioned taiye taiwo was a good servant of nigeria but we can't deny he already was on diminishing returns by the time he arrived in finland

ajagun yes he has never been called up but as a player truth be told he hasn't been pulling up trees anywhere he has played that said k.nwakali doesn't deserve to be called up yet. he hasn't done enough in my opinion.

rabiu ibrahim really? dude that couldn't cut it from portugal holland to scotland? dude that after multiple call ups to the national team could barely play 20 minutes? i'll just assume it was an oversight mentioning his name and you were joking.

ambrose i agree can still be called up but at the moment you know we have 3 decent CB in balogun, ekong and omeruo. coupled with rohr's preference for young players it's not so far fetched that he would call awaziem and semi ajayi looking to the future rather than calling efe to sit on the bench

We are not talking about average players or not, if you tag someone like Ajagun a below average player what does that make KC?

On Taiwo, what is Echejile still doing in this team? I can tell you that a gassed out Taiwo is presently better than Echejile go and watch his recent matches. If Echejile is still getting invited then there was no reason for Taiwo's omission.


Please do well to tell me any of our players that has 'pulled up' more trees than Ajagun in the past few years. You can decide to pick if you have more worthy persons which presently there is no one ahead of him in this hierarchy. Which other AMF/CMF did we invite? so that means the reason why Ajagun isn't there is because KC is there. I hate sounding like I don't want to see the boy there but due process has to be followed at all times.


Well the present matter here and now is that at Bratislava Rabiu is bossing it. he was also a starter for Trencin a few seasons ago, and in the match he played against Chad he played very well in the limited time, go and check again. By the way when he was representing Trencin, a run of games for the national team would have propelled him to a better career which is what I believe we are trying to do for KC now, so why does player A deserve better recognition than player B?

gamaliel9:
Kwakwanso is a younger version of Buhari in jihadism IF YOU FOLLOW HIS ANTECEDENTS

Younger version of Buhari how? So his achievements in Kano mean nothing to you?

safarigirl:
Meanwhile, thread mates celebrate with me. I finally got my first PVC today.

@Mickael2, oya, who is your candidate?

I believe that means you have decided to endure the hot sun on that day so as to carry out your civic responsibility, big kudos to you. I must admit it wasn't easy, took me 2hours to actually get although I knew people so congrats.


About my candidate we are still doing some background work for Kwankwaso right about now. the primaries are yet to be conducted(and that is for registered party members), but the background work is on going, we intend to meet up with aspirants in lesser positions even down to council chairmen so that we can also adopt candidates with a similar mindset so that the development will be holistic. If we have about 65% of lawmakers who have the same ideology (I could care less about their parties) and about 70% of state governors and state administrators then you can hold us accountable for not functioning well. Sha for now we are waiting for the primaries but we don't do parry politics so don't expect to see me backing Atiku if he wins the primaries.

Icon4s:
No wahala bro. No shaking.

We actually make do with what we have whether Chinese, Bundesliga 2, Portuguese 2 or Championship.

Na wetin we get we go use.

But are they....are they really all we have? Is it that we do not have any player playing in their position in a top league? Or we just decide to hinder under the umbrella of 'they are too old' and then invite other below par players? A player like Taye Taiwo was still in an active league few seasons ago but he was never invited, he was the top scorer of Kemi back then yet he wasn't invited and people here said it's because he is in a lo league, so which league now is higher between Bundesliga 3(the boy in question I believe just got promoted to Bundelisga 2 this season) and the Finnish league? I put it to you that if Taiwo got the invite he so merited back then he would still be playing professional football, I mean we invite players from Chinese and Saudi leagues but we rejected Taiwo's invitation because he was in Finland, what's the excuse?! Or didn't he distinguish himself before going to that Finnish league? Case number 1.

Case number 2, is Ajagun a ball boy in Belgium? Why settle for a midfielder who got kicked out of a dutch league team(VVVenlo), failed to make a substantial impact in dutch division 2 and is now wasting away in Porto B? He is young, 20, wouldn't it make more sense to use more seasoned professionals? When did the national team turn to a rookies' joint? Or hasn't Ajagun done enough to merit an invite? Or at 29, is he older than almost half of our team?(Mikel,Balogun, Ighalo and the rest) or is it that we do not have any need for a midfielder? when we can barely create chances through the middle in games. or is it that he hasn't shown his stuff? Is it not if you get invited that you can show what you have?


Case 3, still on our need for a midfielder, before KC gets a look in somebody like Rabiu Ibrahim should even get a look in. For those that do not know, Rabiu is a sure fixture for Slovan Bratislava, he has a position tied down even with a broken leg and the last time he played for Nigeria(I can't recall the game) he did very well yet he never got invited. Now Bratislava is one of the power houses in Slovakia and if I am correct they are in the Europa league or at least played the qualifiers is that not a bigger place than the LigaII in Portugal? Or is it that Rabiu is now an old man too? Or is that we don't like players from Slovakia? has he been invited enough to show his thing and he failed? How did he not at least merit an invite in that Atletico match and who is too he wouldn't have taken those academy boys on a ride? Let's be honest here, that match against Atletico makes no sense, any seasoned professional would have shone like a million stars in the game.


Case 4, Ramon Azeez. Is he now a Spanish player? OK let me not say much about him because he is more of a DMF than CMF and is not exactly in direct contest with KC or Jamiu or the other guy.

Case 5, Efe Ambrose. So a playing that struggled for game time in Cardiff last season is now better than one of the top players of a top 6 club in Scotland? I mean the talk is ridiculous.


All in a my point is we have better option, but it is either we are not looking hard enough or there are some backroom politics surrounding this list. I mean it makes no sense that guys are busy proving themselves everyday and yet they do not get invited. Onuachu tried so much but did he ever get an invite? Onyekuru is probably going to come to this match against Seychelles and sit on the bench, players that deserve the invitation are overlooked for other below par players.

elyte89:
Do u reside in Nigeria? And u follow d 9ja politics keenly?

Except u reside in Uk or Us, den I will accept ur view,since u re not on ground to knw exactly what is going on?

Who is lying to u dt,d fate of d next election solely lies on who PDP appoints as deir flag bearer


To start with,d PDP as a party is not serious,we av barely 6ixmonths to general election,yet dey avnt agreed on a consensus candidate, even d incumbent President has declared 2months back to show his seriousness

Now let's look at d PDP bigwig going for d presidential post @d moment. Critically, dey all av issues even at deir HOME BASE

IS IT ATIKU....if dt one contest against him wife self I doubt if he would win d HEAD OF D FAMILY ELECTION ,his electoral value even in his state can b checked

Is it SARAKI...who has been rejected everywhere,even in Ilorin and of recent,he was embarrassed at d oju ode oba while making his speech ,d crowd were chanting "sai baba"

Is it LAMIDO...no go area,no political clout in d s/w and s/e...and a bed ridden buhari will defeat him effortlessly in d North.. Fact

Is it Markafi/Ibrahim shekarau...same lamido fate goes with dem

Is it kwankwaso...who ordinarily has a big followership in kano,but after his defection to PDP,majority of his follower ship has abandoned him,anywhere he goes,dey chant sai baba instead of his name,even on eid day,he couldn't withstand d embarrassment he might faced at home(kano),so he decided to observe his eid prayers in EDO STATE.

IS IT TAMBUWAL....senator wammako is already showing him where his ppu belong to,am sure by now he would b biting his fingers

Havnt said dt,if d election is held tmao,BUHARI WOULD WIN WITH A WIDE MARGIN.

Even though I want a change in d GOVT,dt doesnt mean we shld ignore d obvious truth


Meanwhile for d likes of moghalu,durotaiye,sowore and co,I want to believe dis guys just want to b addressed as a FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE in d nearest future

Dey stand no chance against any of d PDP candidate listed,let alone of BUHARI,dts d bitter truth,I would b very surprise if any of deir parties get to win a WARD IN d next coming general election

Nigeria politics goes beyond gallivanting around world campaigning in Honolulu, Texas,Amsterdam, a style adopted by sowore. this ppu won't vote,d farmers in kano/baruten LG,d market women in osogbo market,d business men in mbaise, d cattle rearer in daura etc re d ones who will give u d bloc vote,ask dis ppu who d likes of moghalu,sowore and co is,dey don't knw dem
All dey knw is "BROOM AND UMBRELLA" and we dt knw dem,we support and vote online,while dey get deir PVCs and vote for deir choice.

I think you all are underestimating the effect of Buhari's spat with Nnamdi Kalu then. The fact of the matter is that the man managed to gather enough supporters, in fact about 90% of Igbo people scattered all across Nigeria are supporting him and that means they are against Buhari. In this analysis you gave now (although it actually looks correct) you have totally neglected the eastern and western parts forgetting that they too constitute voters and because of the kind of publicity this election is getting, the number of voters coming out from there would be twice as much as it was last election. I guess you are a proper northern resident because you broke it down very well. But let's take Kwankwaso for example, he will win Kano hands down and his support base in Kaduna too which I have seen is massive add to that the fact that Jonathan, the main voice of the South South would invariably be supporting anybody that the PDP presents while PDP's alliance with APGA means probably a clean sweep for any PDP candidate in the East, an alliance with the West is usually quite tricky but can be navigated since Buhari through Tinubu already disappointed the westerners so possibly a strong base in the West too then you will realise that Kwankwaso for example would have succeeded in breaking up the support for Buhari in the north whilst staking a claim in other parts of the federation and that's how elections are won.


forget those other pretenders

safarigirl:
if there is one thing I always do, it is to look at the stakes and judge.

In 2015, I told everyone who would listen that Buhari would win because the voting calculations were favorable to him. In 2019, for all the hate that Buhari has supposedly amassed, he will still win.


Really, who does PDP want to field? As of now, the likes of Atiku, Saraki and Kwankwaso are the lead candidates. None of these men have the kind of support Buhari and APC has. I can give you seventeen states that will vote Buhari, mostly from South West and the North. Only Benue might diverge, but the other Northern States are 98% in the bag because Nigerians are senseless people


The likes of Moghalu and Durotoye are elite candidates. They will appeal to the social media users and urban dwellers, but this group of people are not voters. The voters are in the rural areas, they don't even understand English most of the time. Do Moghalu and Surprise have campaigners on the ground to sell them to the average farmer in Sokoto? Does the market woman in Osogbo know that a candidate like Durotoye is coming out for President? Does the bus conductor in Afikpo know of Kingsley Moghalu?

Social media support flatters to deceive, it is grassroots presence that determines who wins the Presidency and right now, only APC and Buhari have that.

In 2015 Jonathan didn't cover himself in glory at all, his loss was as clear as the noon day sun even before January of 2014. Buhari merely took advantage of the collapsing ship not this his own ship was the strongest either.

The other thing that Buhari benefited from was that coalition and a lot of the top dogs were part of it, rigging wise he had the base, money wise he had the base too and support wise he was there, right now he no longer has that coalition, he hardly has the support base either and we can only say he has the financial base as at now. OK let's say someone like Kwankwaso wins(who I will be voting for come the primaries)Kano and Kaduna would be won easily by the PDP no doubt at all, that would have already put the cat among the pigeons for Buhari and since APGA(the self acclaimed Igbo party) is in an unspoken alliance with PDP, they'd possibly run away with the eastern votes too. The western voters are still there for the taking and I believe Tinubu's influence there has waned seriously. The only reason why Buhari may even smell anything would be if APGA brings out a strong contender(that would split the eastern votes) and maybe another party brings out a western contender too, other than that Buhari isn't going to see anything.

Forget all these ALSO-RANS that you are talking about. A few years from now you will see them occupying ministerial and ambassadorial roles and they will eventually retire on a fat pension living in well furnished houses, that's the aim for them. The problem though is that they do not understand that their presence is Buhari's advantage. If all the other parties in Nigeria can merge(or at least the top ones) like they did in the 2015 election and they collectively back one representative this election is done and dusted for them, take that to the bank any day. This is exactly why I love the US' system too.


Meanwhile what I want to know is who you will be voting for, who you think will win because you are voting for them, forget who the market women will vote for, that won't reduce the value of your vote one bit

safarigirl:
Moghalu made a gaffe with the Owerri women who were incarcerated, brought some disrepute to him.

Anyway, neither of them will win. Buhari it is till 2023

Why would someone still be supporting Buhari? Or are you suggesting that the election has already been rigged because that is the only way he could possibly stand a chance, but now even the people that could help him rig the election are against him. This election solely lies on who PDP presents as their flag bearer

Icon4s:
Well, whatever the bolded means. I am for results. It takes me time to rate a player highly not to even talk of one that we all know for over ages has continued to produce poor goals returns for a CF. I do not have anything personal against Ighalo. What I am against is his barren run of form.

I dont know what those of you that have been defending this mediocrity have in mind.

well what it means is that at least I have seen you backing almost any player the coach invites so I can't say you are hypocritical

Humility017:
I have told you to always reason before you type but you keep walking in circles.
let me make it clear....@ the onset I never dislike Ighalo invitation....even at a time made case with sir icon4 on the usefulness of the guy to the team...but a striker who keeps shying away from goal..you don't expect me to keep faith in him.

when lastdid Ighalo scored for Nigeria?
I am not a very patient person...so don't expecr me to stick with such a world cup flop.

and for your correction..... you should be the leader of the hypocritical club.
you've never praised nancho even should he score a brace, likewise onazi.
you're so good in drawing up lame facts to back up your preconceived notions about these players.
for Ighalo let him start scoring and delivering first because I buy into his praise....but until then.

I would advise you to look up the meaning of that word 'hypocrite' before you use it again.

TheGoodJoe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0MPWbKTn0A

I think you should stick to doing his campaigns sha

Kog45:
Dokita I think there is need for pure football talk with no ill feelings.

Good example is thegoodJoe who always analytical in his approach to issues.

I always try to talk football straight. At least devoid of insults but sometimes they just go personal and I have no other option but to say one or two things. I am sorry though but him making reference to a psychological example of learning is quite retarded if he doesn't understand what it is all about

TheGoodJoe:
Bringing ratings is a clear point that you misunderstood the argument. The ratings came before the release of the Algerian coach statement. I disagreed with it, citing that they neglected the impact of Nacho's running and pressing which played a big part to our win. Owngoal released the article and the journalist after I made the statement.

So it is funny you jumped back to bringing the ratings I disagreed with. My question still remains, did Nacho's run help causing the Algerians problems?

Who is Fela Durutoye?

BascoVanVeli:
So when u bash guys like Ighalo u are Palestinian?

Babylonians probably

Kog45:
Oh humility baba normal in football circle to criticise and sometimes it's personal.

just like you have never speak good of Ighalo and most of the times berate Victor Moses and even happy for his retirement.

We are all entitle to our opinions and it must be respected with no ill feelings.

Sir you get time for hypocrites like that, people whose bread and butter is bashing Ighalo but will go to the most delusional length to back up another average player that they love. If na person like Icon4s wey talk I would ignore(even Tbaba has his own dislike for Ighalo) but people like these ones here? Pure hypocrites

sontoly:
I wont reply you again, cos if it was nacho who got frustrated like vardy did and got a red, you wld have roasted him, my point is, nacho did enough today and got an assist so take it that way and give him credit for it.

I am seriously trying to figure out what my business with Vardy is. Am I a Leicester fan? is Vardy a Nigerian? For all I care he can kick out at the ref and get banned for life how will that affect anything I am attached to? If Iheanacho gets frustrated and kicks out(like he did when he was subbed against Algeria) then it's my business because he is a SE player do you now get that?

By the way people will hear you saying Nacho got an assist not knowing that its false. He had a cross which was half-cleared by a defender and it fell for the eventual goalscorer who tucked it away, I thought an assist means that you got the last touch before the player who scored? That won't be recorded as an assist mind you, except you make it one in your own stat book.

Finally I am not an authority in Psychology but I do know that learning by reinforcement is an influential type. Nacho had a 5/10 game which is average at best and you are here saying he had a decent game? If the people close to him are telling him also that 5/10 is a good performance then that means they are reinforcing him positively and he will be having 5/10 games constantly