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maidaboi:
injury free osimhen would have started more games
osimhen started from u17 to u20 to u23 to super eagle through different coaches
and remember the coach and director that bought him have all been sack yet the new coach still gave him some game time when he returned from injury
he is quality, i rest my case
#respect

Portugal dropped Sanches for the confed squad, not because he isn't a class act but because other players are performing better than him, that is what I call professionalism at it's peak. We have game changers who could have been invited in place of Oshimen, Ajagun for example is the kind of player you can bring on when you are looking for an equaliser and play him as the DMF in a 3 man backline because he can also cover as the RB and LB allowing the actual fullbacks to bomb forward. Aluko is the kind of player you can bring on when a team adopts a man-to-man marking approach, he can easily beat his man unlike....Iwobi for example who would rather just pass the ball. I can name other game changers who I do not like personally but if we should be perfectly professional in our approach they deserve the spot more than Oshimen

tbaba1234:
Nwakali to replace who?? Nwakali is a midfielder who played in the Dutch second division. His time will come. Midfield is crowded right now.

but do you agree that Orji deserves a spot ahead of Oshimen, yes or no

zicky:
If anyone from the last U-17set ought to be called to the SE, its orji okonkwo and not Oshimen, cos I still can't figure the criteria for his invitation.

you do have a point. I mean Bologna and Wolfsburg aren't too different from eachother, they both barely survived relegation but the case now is that when Bologna started fighting against relegation they called on Orji Okonkwo while Oshimen was still choping bench at Wolfsburg, if I talk now some cry babies will start talking about Iheanacho

Icon4s:
Ow! are you referring to Akpeyi losing form?

Yes I meant Akpeyi

goldfish80:
Exactly. You recall perfectly. I frankly didn't rate Balogun in his early days playing for the super eagles. I recall the game in Kaduna against Egypt, he played at Rb, looked uncomfortable all afternoon.

In the friendly against SA, Akpeyi had a blinder. So good on the night he caught a penalty. I recall the the press heralded him as the heir apparent to Enyeama after the fine evening outting.
How suddenly, people are panicking when his name is mentioned shows how fickle minded football fans are.

players lose form

Icon4s:
It was not the Nelson Mandela Challenge. It was just a friendly. That game finished 1-1. Ahmed Musa put Nigeria ahead with about 10mins left. While they equalised late into injury time. Leon Balogun was the culprit.

wasn't it the game we won 2-0? Balogun did not play the match and it was....Anthony Ujah or someone like that with a brace. I think it was Uche Nwofor, not so sure

modified- you are actually correct

forgiveness:
Did he play as a point man?

when Iheanacho was playing in the U17 was he the point man?

forgiveness:
Oga, Lookman, Solanke etc are bamboozing big big teams at the U20 in the English Jersey which we have never seen before.

They are the soul and engine of the team.

They are equally or better than some of our player if given the chance to prove themselves.

Don't forget, some of our own fumbled at the U20 big time.

how many goals has he scored at the U20? I mean Solanke

tbaba1234:
Have you ever watched Awaziem play?? Any game at all..

yes but not more than 4 games in total

tbaba1234:
For Porto first team and for Porto B. I did not watch the friendlies.

Comfortable on the ball. Picks out passes. He was a midfielder so he is very confident on the ball. He does balloon the ball as often as Omeruo.

ok do you know that when Omeruo's club had an injury crisis it was Omeruo that was called upon to play the DMF position, the reason then was that he is the best ball playing CB in the team and one of the best in the league. Check, it's mainly ball playing CBs that are error prone like Pique and Stones just like Omeruo. Omeruo for me is the better and more willing ball playing CB

tbaba1234:
If you are looking for a ball playing defender, Awaziem is better in my opinion. Omeruo has the Experience of playing in Africa.

are you saying this because of his performance against Corsica and Togo? Or are you also counting his games for PortoB?

forgiveness:
Of course, you know most of them are players of Nigerian origin Abroad.

Oga! Shehu Abdullahi, Ikechuckwu Ezenwa, Victor Osimhen, Ibrahim Alhassan, Noah(an injured player) etc should not have been called ahead of some players in Europe, both for the friendly and AFCON.

Why are the coaching crew doing selective selection?

I thought friendlies are meant to give some boys opportunity to show themselves.

Why bring the ones you can easily dispose and no one go raise eyebrow.

When competition come na dat time go clear. Enough said.

They keep working while you bring bench warmers to gain status, ba.

I am very much aware of the antics behind team selection.

Which players be even my players self?

Ok we are looking at like for like replacement.

If you can name a nigerian player that can play the RB and DMF positions at the same time then I will agree that Shehu should not be there.

If you can tell me what business Ronaldinho had at the 2002 world cup then I will agree that Oshimen shouldn't be there. Let's start with two

TheGoodJoe:
The question is, is Omeruo a better choice for the set-up Rohr wants to use in th next game. Definitely Omeruo is a ball playing defender but I doubt he is a better baller than Awaziem. The reports from Camp will give a better picture. For now, I believe Rohr intends to build a possession-heavy side that requires ball playing defenders and Awaziem has my pick. Especially after spending time with Lopetegui at Porto, a coach I admired his possession-heavy style when he coached Isco, Thiago Alcantara, Morata and Sarabia in the Junior levels of Spain.

Kai theGoodJoe are you the one saying this? Omeruo has played as a RB before, as a DMF before, have you ever seen a RB who can't play the ball well? I know some DMF's are limited passers but RBs and LBs are always serious ballers, Omeruo I can even argue is a better ball player than....Balogun(Ekong dey play ball wella, or atleast he did so at the Olympics).

In fact I remember you were the one saying that Omeruo was solid against Zambia despite his mistake(which I agree well enough), do you think that Awaziem can keep(....what is the name of that big and mean Zambian guy?) quiet?

Icon4s:
Would you fancy him over Omeruo to start against SA?

I think the team chemistry matters a lot and the two of them have been otherwise okay-ish in the last two games. Omeruo is a solid player on his day but mistakes are part of his game almost every match. Personally I'd rather start Awaziem

Icon4s:
After the two friendlies, baring any injuries and withdrawals or changes my predicted starting 11 against SA: 4-2-3-1

...................Akpeyi

Shehu..Omeruo..Ekong..Echiejile

.....Ndidi (DM)..Onazi/Agu(CM)


Musa....Iwobi...Etebo

........Iheanacho

I don't know but I think Awaziem was pretty solid

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Mickael2:
I hate to be the one to say this but this match will not be considered when the next fifa rankings are released. as a matter of fact, as long as FIFA is concerned this match never happened.

The International Football Association Board has set a limit of six substitutes as a maximum in international friendlies.
The limit was forced through today despite strong opposition from the English FA and England head coach Sven-Goran Eriksson.
FIFA had originally wanted to impose a maximum of five substitutes but agreed to compromise at the meeting in London.
The rule change is among several changes by the game's rule-making body, including scrapping the golden goal and silver goal rules after Euro 2004.
The decision means that knock-out games will revert to being decided on penalties if the scores are level after two periods of extra-time.
Eriksson and the FA faced an uphill struggle in their attempt to persuade FIFA to drop the change to the substitute rule after the Irish FA indicated they would back the proposal from FIFA president Sepp Blatter.
Irish FA chairman Jim Boyce had said on Thursday: "I personally believe that there should not be more than five substitutes, otherwise it is a total farce with people running on and off the pitch all the time.

Madam, please read this(my first comment about the game) and tell me where you saw Iheanacho's name, please do

safarigirl:
I like how you refrained from quoting my first reply to your moot point.

Our ranking is not your problem, stop shouting upandan as if the rest of us are unaware of the obvious fact.

It is clear that the only reason you are exhibiting this level of bad belle is because the Kelechi you called a bench warmer, incapable of starting a game, put you to shame. And that is how he will continue putting you to shame until you run out of excuses to give.

Do you know you could have passed the message that this game would not be counted by FIFA WITHOUT adding that Kelechi and Musa's goals would not be counted as well? Rather than do that, you made your bias obvious by glaringly pointing out that fact, so you ended up sounding like a pained person, looking for a balm to sooth his pain.

So, congratulations sir, you played yourself

Mickael2:
I hate to be the one to say this but this match will not be considered when the next fifa rankings are released. as a matter of fact, as long as FIFA is concerned this match never happened.

The International Football Association Board has set a limit of six substitutes as a maximum in international friendlies.
The limit was forced through today despite strong opposition from the English FA and England head coach Sven-Goran Eriksson.
FIFA had originally wanted to impose a maximum of five substitutes but agreed to compromise at the meeting in London.
The rule change is among several changes by the game's rule-making body, including scrapping the golden goal and silver goal rules after Euro 2004.
The decision means that knock-out games will revert to being decided on penalties if the scores are level after two periods of extra-time.
Eriksson and the FA faced an uphill struggle in their attempt to persuade FIFA to drop the change to the substitute rule after the Irish FA indicated they would back the proposal from FIFA president Sepp Blatter.
Irish FA chairman Jim Boyce had said on Thursday: "I personally believe that there should not be more than five substitutes, otherwise it is a total farce with people running on and off the pitch all the time.

Madam, please read this(my first comment about the game) and tell me where you saw Iheanacho's name, please do. You don't always have to talk because you saw people talking, thanks a lot

TheSuperNerd:
Plsss dont quote me to type trash ever again... Thank you.

FYI.... the game against Togo is rated.... It is an international game and the records of the game counts. Now carry your subtle Nacho hatred and leave my mentions. You forget you deal with one well schooled in psychology so I can smell the intentions of your posts light years away. Now Scram...

whatever keeps a smile on your face

safarigirl:
the thing is sha paining him, Omanbala hasn't come here to discredit the game just because Musa scored a brace, has he?

Biko, bad belle is not allowed on these streets

so because Iheanacho scored the game will now count? I don't understand what you people are even saying, how is Iheanacho part of this conversation? I tire

Chrismario:
Concerning this friendly, I don't know much about the rules other than FIFA won't count it.
About two years ago, Belgium played Kosovo and I could remember the red devil used more then 6 subs as a result, fifa confirmed that it won't be counted!

But this grade A and B tire me.
Anyway, d most important thing is dat the boys are improving, at least wen we yansh Southee boys like 4-0, it would be counted by force.

So no need for alarm.
They will only get better

if I mention this now, someone will start talking about Iheanacho as if he is the Nigerian national football team that will be ranked higher and that I am trying to throw him under the bus

TheSuperNerd:
Actually Safari dear... lemme even correct another erroneous comment of his....

He said Iheanacho's and Musa's goals won't count with Fifa... well he is wrong.


They do count because when Fifa makes reference to there players' careers in the end... they will count these "cateogory: other friendly" matches too.....

Pele's goals records included several unofficial/other friendly/Non-fifa sanctioned games... yet Fifa preserved the records. Same for Romario and some other goalscoring greats.

The goals scored today and the game played today are part of association football records now and will be cited by Fifa at any time except with respect to the FIFA rankings...

His attempts to spoil what a good game this was is already dead on arrival... had Kayode started and scored a hattrick today.... Mickael2 won't bring up this nonsense spoil sport tactic of his.

Mickael2... wehdone Sir

before I start, read this slowly and digest it

Pelé is the top scorer of the Brazil national
football team with 77 goals in 92 official
appearances.[8][192] In addition, he has
scored 18 times in 22 unofficial games.
This makes an unofficial total of 114
games and 95 goals. He has also scored
12 goals and is credited with 10 assists in
14 World Cup appearances, including 4
goals and 7 assists in 1970.[193]

oga, when it comes to goals, unofficial goals are not counted, let's say Martins scored 20 extra goals in unofficial matches, he still won't be our record scorer, do you now understand why the goals don't count?

And what under planet earth are you even yammering about? How did I include Kayode? Oga, check the first comment I made, I said it won't affect our ranking shikena, it was someone that tagged me and I had to give him an extra reason why I think we shouldn't have used up to 9 subs in the game, if you are that much of a fanboy well I am not, Iheanacho is one player, and if he is scoring then I am fine with that, maybe for you when you are eating, sleeping, working, watching tv or even doing anything you are always thinking about Iheanacho(that's why I will be saying another thing and you will start Iheanacho vs Kayode debate) but for me I don't fancy minor debates like that sorry

Mujtahida:
You are looking at rankings. Rohr is busy improving his team. Who ranking epp? Rankings does not equate to victory. Victory is when your team wins 3:0 and it's not even the victory that is important. What is important is the fact that the team is improving.

So in order of priority this is how things rank:
*Improving the team
*Play matches frequently and play to win
*Rankings

Reasons why it matters...

1) the goals and their goalscorers do not matter, in other words Iheanacho and Musa never scored today so long as FIFA is concerned and their stats is always accepted.

2) better ranking means weaker opponents during the world cup. If we end up in Pot3 that could spell disaster.

TheSuperNerd:
Sorry..... then why did we use 9 today?? Can you explain oh high and mighty?

Since all you love to do is counter and spill controversial comments....


FYI, The international window is June 05 to June 13.... so how is this a FIFA window?? U just love to talk.... Lolll

http://www.fifa.com/calendar/

we used 9 subs because this is not a FIFA sanctioned friendly. Check out Italy Vs San Marino, they used 6 subs and it is going to improve their ranking.

Remember when SA defeated Spain but the stuff didn't count because Spain made 7 subs? You can sub as much as you want in a game even more than 11 if you want but once you cross 6 subs, it's no longer a FIFA sanctioned friendly, tu comprehende?

TheSuperNerd:
Six subs rule is for Fifa window international A matches.....

But for "any other friendly" especially outside the FIFA window, a certain number of subs can be agreed upon by the two teams involved and with the referee for the game informed of such agreement before the match kickoff.

A team can agree to have subs ranging from three to twelve.....

any FIFA sanctioned friendly has a maximum of 6 subs, be it an A friendly or nt(whatever that means).

besides we are in the FIFA free window, that's why other teams are organising friendlies too

I hate to be the one to say this but this match will not be considered when the next fifa rankings are released. as a matter of fact, as long as FIFA is concerned this match never happened.

The International Football Association Board has set a limit of six substitutes as a maximum in international friendlies.
The limit was forced through today despite strong opposition from the English FA and England head coach Sven-Goran Eriksson.
FIFA had originally wanted to impose a maximum of five substitutes but agreed to compromise at the meeting in London.
The rule change is among several changes by the game's rule-making body, including scrapping the golden goal and silver goal rules after Euro 2004.
The decision means that knock-out games will revert to being decided on penalties if the scores are level after two periods of extra-time.
Eriksson and the FA faced an uphill struggle in their attempt to persuade FIFA to drop the change to the substitute rule after the Irish FA indicated they would back the proposal from FIFA president Sepp Blatter.
Irish FA chairman Jim Boyce had said on Thursday: "I personally believe that there should not be more than five substitutes, otherwise it is a total farce with people running on and off the pitch all the time.

TheSuperNerd:
Why do u hate Onazi so much?? Did he rob you of your girlfriend or what?

FYI, Onazi is not in Paris... hence Agu starts... tu comprends??

'So no Onazi?' and 'Well this looks brilliant' are two independent sentences. I mean the forward line(the arrangement) looks brilliant. I have nothing against Onazi ooo just that these new kids are good

TheSuperNerd:
Awaziem-Ekong will likely start against South Africa....

Shebi I asked if Ebuehi will start since this African opposition....

Agu-Ndidi-Etebo.... exactly the midfield I was expecting... Against South Africa, Agu will drop to the bench for Onazi.


Musa-Iheanacho-Iwobi.... why am I not surprised? I knew Iwobi must start.

Expecting to see Onyekuru shaa later in the game....

Good Line-up for the friendly coming up in 30mins or so...

what makes you so sure? This is like the final practice before the game and Agu is starting the game. Shehu now is almost definetly going to start against SA, and unless Agu messes up entirely I think his own case might be similar too

tbaba1234:
Starting line up for Togo

Ezenwa
Shehu
Awaziem
Ekong
Elderson
Agu
Ndidi
Etebo
Musa
Iwobi
Iheanacho

So no Onazi? Well this looks brilliant. I am guessing Iwobi and Musa will be on the flanks(I'd rather have Onyekuru ahead of Musa but Musa ahead of Moses Simon anyday) and Etebo playing off Iheanacho as the AMF like he did at the Olympics, my prediction? Win or lose Etebo will score

TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmmm... why are you always questioning whether I understand psychology?

I don't question it, if I am arguing with....tbaba for example, I would never say anything about psychology but I'd assume he only knows the basics there but when it gets to you I always want to go deep because I assume you know it(ofcourse I have to ask just to be sure)

TheSuperNerd:
Questions arising as Nigeria prepares to tackle Togo....


- Who would be in goal? Latest reports say Alampasu has been the more impressive of the two.... Although Ezenwa got the experience... who will play in goal? Against South Africa, we already know who will man the post.... But for today... who will it be? Ezenwa or Alampasu...

- Will Rohr proceed with the Troost-Chidozie Central defence partnership? or will the experience of Omeruo speak loudest?

Whatever Rohr starts with today as the central defence pairing may be what we see against South Africa....


- Who will play Right Back?? Ebuehi started the last game... but he is still getting used to African opposition. Will Rohr stick to him? or will it be Abdullahi or a makeshift RB in Omeruo again?


- Will it be The MikelAgu-Ndidi-Etebo midfield trio?
Or will it be something else? like Ndidi-Etebo-Alhassan

that's for Togo.... but I am thinking in the end our midfield three against South Africa will likely be Ndidi-Onazi-Etebo....? right? (very enticing indeed)


- Who flanks Iheanacho? With Etebo/Alhassan (could also be Iwobi) likely to play behind Nacho..... who will be the Right and left wing forward men?

We had Onyekuru on the left and Musa on the right against Corsica.... with Iwobi now in camp... will he start? Or will Rohr play him in the no.10 role like he did against Senegal?


- Iheanacho is super likely to start in order to get him in even better shape ahead of the South Africa game.... Yes that is true but would it do any harm to have Kayode, Austrian Bundesliga's MVP and Top scorer tested from the Start today with Nacho coming in later?


- Bonus : Who knows Rohr's birthday Month?

simple! It wouldn't do us any harm at all. Kayode has been in top top form,I mean there was a report we read here, one NFF guy said Onyekuru? Is as fast as Kayode, to tell you that Kayode is their yardstick for pace so again I can repeat here and now that he is faster than Iheanacho. I watched the match highlights against Corsica and although people are so quick to condemn Onyekuru, Iheanacho missed two clear chances, one his pace let him down, the other he couldn't hit the target, let me repeat that last sentence, IHEANACHO WITH THE BEST SHOT TO GOAL RATIO IN THE EPL COULDN'T HIT THE TARGET, that's evidence of lack of confidence, his penalty too showed it, look at his face after scoring the penalty he felt so releived. But Kayode is the man on song right now, I remember when Costa was messing up, Spain invited Alcacer immediately and he started their games, football is all about form not quality

TheSuperNerd:
Offence was definitely implied....

If you asked this question with open-mindedness, then I will reply extensively. It is very obvious why you ask this question. Why can't you wait till 1900 hrs (7pm) Paris time (6pm in Nigeria) to find out what Rohr will do...?

my point is... When Kane was injured, England could have just made Vardy their first choice, but because he was out of form(his quality has never been in doubt), they introduced Defoe.

Quality is not really the final criteria. Iheanacho is definetly not lacking in that aspect but form...yeah he is lacking there, I can assume that you as a health related guy(I don't know where you did yours but back then in school I remember doing psychology a little) should know that Kayode will definetly be walking with a spring in his step right now and that sort of confidence can make you 10 times better.

TheSuperNerd:
No Victor Moses, No Mikel Obi, No Leon Balogun, No Carl Ikeme.... The four super pillars will be missing in action....


Yet we present a team so dangerous despite her youth.

But yeah... I understand why they should celebrate shaa.... with Victor moses out, they have at least one less headache to worry about.... loooollll

Ok we have a match against Togo next. Let's assume you are the coach, will you leave the best player cum highest goalscorer for the past Austrian league on the bench together with the hotest kid in Arsenal right now for a bench warmer(no offence) for Man City?

goldfish80:
Thank goodness I wasn't involved in the debate. Otherwise people would have mistook me for being unpatriotic.

Do you know why I didn't call you out after Monaco lost(like I knew they would)? Because atleast I saw what you were saying about Mbappe. Probably not the most talented teeneger in the world right now(Dembele is) but definetly second or third at most