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TheGoodJoe:
Top analyst told you our midfield, me I said it was Iheanacho's hard work that made the difference.

You do not know that no matter how much the midfield wins the ball, it takes a god conversion to win the game. Keep talking midfield. Abi midfield scored Hat trick.

Victor Moses and Mikel(the goalscorers) were part of our midfield, so yeah I guess our midfield did win the match for us

TheSuperNerd:
Hey! Sir Mickael.. which kain beef you get with Onazi naa?

Onazi started the move for our final goal in that game ooo.. so plss include his name osiso... he deserves some credits for that win biko

ok, plus Onazi(still not 100% sha)

TheGoodJoe:
Story. Iheanacho made it difficult for the defensive players by pressing and he made it difficult for the defenders to concentrate with his brilliant runs and you are talking midfield positioning. Na wa. Fear God small.

Do you not know it takes Stamina and fitness to press more. A less fit player and player with less stamina can not press more. Shaking my head.

brilliant runs? Ok which game are we talking about again?

TheGoodJoe:
Yes. I pointed it out before the coach when I dropped my review. People were arguing until the coach confirmed it and later a journalist. He singled Iheanacho out.

the same coach that has been sacked? Top analysts told you that it was our midfield that won the game(bar Onazi) and you are pointing at one poor coach with no pedigree

TheGoodJoe:
Iheanacho did not press Algeria? Habaaaaaaaa. He made it difficult for the defenders to keep the ball throughout. Hiaaa.

watch that game again, most of the balls we won were in the midfield, Nacho's pressing 'looked' effective because of Mikel's intelligent positioning. Nacho pressed against Algeria but even in the short cameo against Senegal, Kayode showed that he could press even more

TheGoodJoe:
Kelechi Iheanacho was not poor against Algeria. The Algerian coach said he was the reason we won.

You mean the coach that was sacked? That's why his team was so poor if he thought that Nacho was the reason why we won.

TheGoodJoe:
Leave the long talk. They were in camp recently and Nacho earned the reviews. Not Kayode. When it came to fitness, that is after stamina drills by Rohr, Ogu and Iheanacho shone not Kayode.

Nacho did not have game time. Kayode did but it did not make Kayode better. Finito.

Well Guardiola has turned Nacho into a training ground specialist so I wasn't really suprised

TheSuperNerd:
At the U-17 level.... Nacho had his role... and the team played as one... attacked as one and pressed as one.... so saying Nacho's work rate or pressing was very poor is debatable... that team always had the ball most times and recovered it almost as soon as they lost it...each player did their part very well....



And we no dey talk messi and tevez... we dey talk Nacho and Kayode....

You say Nacho is not fast.... Our very first goal at u-17 level saw Nacho start the counter deep in midfield that released success to run at the Mexican defence towards the left Wing... nacho sprinted from deep in midfield and got into position for success to give him the ball... and you say nacho is not fast... from his u-17 days, Nacho's speed in keeping up with counters was deadly and very pronounced....

What about the counter of the Nigeria-mexico final... ? I could cite as many examples... and now this same Iheanacho has been made to operate majorly as a no.9 at city and has even improved his speed and stamina and also his pressing and you say he is behind Kayode....

Kayode is a workaholic... he has always been and will always be. That is his style but it doesn't make him the boss of pressing in the super eagles.... Coz Iheanacho actually does it better....


You need to watch Nacho closely when he presses... a good example is the Algeria game.... watch him closely... that lad got bad-ass stamina now due to the intense training at City.... it amazed me to be honest.... and his speed on the counter is blistering...

Watch his counter run against Luxembourg and judge for yourself... to dissect these matters may require time for in depth scrutiny.. but I have given you examples...


Kayode we know... he is fast and a workaholic... but In Iheanacho we have a player who has both qualities also and is at par or even better than Kayode in pace and pressing and then brings much more to the table...

I have watched Kayode... I have watched Nacho... and I still watch them.... Iheanacho trumps Kayode... and that is the truth.

i didn't say that Nacho isn't fast or that he can't press, just that Kayode is better there.

tbaba1234:
Kayode is better presser than Kelechi. His second goal today was simply because of pressing.

Kelechi's strong points are his finishing ability and his eye for a pass. The passing part is no longer so obvious.

thank you very much. Which brings me to the question, since his strongest point is his ability to put away chances, we saw from our last game that he wasn't even able to put away the chances again, so why should my suggestion that Kayode could start ahead of Nacho an absurd suggestion?

bigblangston:
I agree with you about the work rate of Kayode, he reminds me of when Carlos Tevez was at Manchester City also like Ji Sung Park and Dirk Kuyt put together but he misses goals more than a woman missing her period. We need strikers that can bury half chances now that we are lacking in terms of prolific goal scorers in the SE safe for the DRILLING One in the team that has a good goal game ratio

Thank you, but the problem now is that judging based on our last match against Senegal, Nacho is no longer putting away the half-chances so what makes him a better option than Kayode now? I am not saying Kayode is the best we have, but presently he deserves a shot, a serious one

TheSuperNerd:
Are you not getting something here?

The fact that it is his strongest point doesnt automatically make him no.1 when compared to others in pressing...

In medical school... one's strongest point may be pathology instead of pharmacology or anatomy or physiology or even biochemistry but that doesnt mean he is the class's best in pathology... tu comprends?

lol I saw what you did there, well that's for medical school. You know hard biochemistry is, if you do not know it at all, no matter how hard you try you can't just pick up and become the best in biochemistry. Nacho was very poor when it came to pressing back in his U17, and pressing isn't easy to learn, credit to him for the much he has learnt but Kayode was already very good there.

TheSuperNerd:
Oga.... who presses better now? This is the relevant question you should be asking and not kicking about the bush.

This is Kayode's primary trait, as in it's the main thing he knows how to do! When I watch football I always watch how the strikers press, I remember in the U23 thread GoodJoe said Sadiq was pressing, I told him he was pressing aimlessly not effectively, for me whenever I watch football I always watch the pressing part very well.

Now to the question, do you think that any amount of training can make Messi a better 'presser' that Tevez? At the U17 level Nacho was very poor in that aspect while Kayode was excellent there, credit to pep for improving Nacho's pressing abilities but he is still below Kayode in pace and pressing atleast

TheSuperNerd:
It is a very strong point of Kayode's game naa... abi you weren't there when I analysed that after the Senegal game??

But saying he presses more than Iheanacho is a very big no no....

Thank you. Now another question, when Nacho was playing in the U17 and the U20 did he use to press at all?

TheGoodJoe:
Pressing more than Iheanacho is a no no.

when Iheanacho was playing in the U17 he hardly pressed, from his U17 Kayode has been a born 'presser', you need to watch him more.

TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahahahahahaha.... look at this guy ooo... are you going to lecture me on Kayode who I have been following since 2009?

Looooollll... just look at how cheap your points are. I watched Kayode 10months ago... Hahahahahahahahaha.... because you stay with me abi?? loooollll

Kayode who I follow well.... hahahaha.... abeg tell us something new....

All this one you dey talk na just tori.... Iheanacho over Kayode anytime any day....

Rohr no be fool.

You are deviating from the point here, is pressing a strong point of Kayode's game? Yes or no

TheGoodJoe:
Until that time. All these one is blasphemy. When they hit camp, their form will decide. Not some Babylonian blasphemy.

what form? So the one Kayode is in now isn't good enough? He is scoring left right and center, let me not even mention Adi

TheSuperNerd:
There is no way Kayode gets the nod ahead of Iheanacho.... Unless Nacho is injured. For now, It is that simple. I wonder why people just can't separate the lines......

Iheanacho is a beast when it comes to pressing high up front and contributing to our linkup plays... Kayode has nothing on Iheanacho in these aspects and more... This is the Super Eagles arena now..... can't they see that?

Have you actually watched Kayode before?! Pressing is his strongest point, I MIGHT agree with the link-up play part but pressing?! Come on

TheSuperNerd:
Kayode presses more than who? Iheanacho??


Kayode should start our next game..... ahead of Nacho?

Hahahahahahahahaha.... thank God you are not on Rohr's coaching crew.

Ever since Kayode was small, his workrate has always been his strongest point. He runs for 90 mins straight, I remember watching his Europa League games and some of his recent league games. He is faster than Nacho by the way.

But let me ask, when was the last time you watched Kayode's games? 10 months ago? Tbaba will give you a better definition of the type of player he is, name does not play football, form does

Icon4s:
TheGoodJoe has a time table for Iheanacho's drills.

He and Pep surely share same bed. Haha haha!

brutal

TheGoodJoe:
The irony is that the so called Kayode also missed an easy chance but hey, it is good. He is playing regularly. Do you see the big whole in this train of thought?

As Kayode is now, take him to City and make Guardiola pick his striker. Kayode will not have a chance. But, hey he is playing regularly.

As I said, all these regular talk is just an excuse to drop the better player on the bench.

Rohr is taking the players to camp. He will watch them closely and select the best players. Let me see your el regularitos be stronger, faster, more stamina and better conversion rate.

you keep on mentioning that miss, but it wasn't even a great chance! You also forgot that Kayode had a hand in that penalty that your 'drill-boy' put away.

Now this is not a swipe at Nacho but terzurum5 gets the whole idea, Kayode should be starting our next game for me, he is a workaholic(probably presses more than Nacho), and his link-up play isn't bad, that doesn't mean he is better than Nacho but regular playing time is going to give him the advantage

chrisooblog:
in an ideal situation i would have wanted KC to stay at city because i felt this is just his second full season as a player needing more time to mature and improve. that was however predicated on situation that pep give him ample playing time to learn, make mistakes and improve as a player. i think this is the point of disagreement with goodjoe what's the point learning ''drills'' if you wont allow him execute what he has learnt. take sane for example understandably he didn't make the first team he was introduced gradually as he got better. now that he is a first team starter he still has lots to learn but pep is giving him a fair run of games to establish himself same with sterling who hasn't done anything special to warrant pep constantly starting him. as all the members in the house have said in different ways we pray his handlers find him a good club to get back his confidence cos world cup is around the corner and guardiola clearly has no plans for him.
i watched KC's performance against senegal to be sincere i was fairly satisfied with his goal. yes he missed some chances which happens to any good striker but overall he pestered the senegalese defence all night which was no small feat considering the huge opponents he was up against. the boy will be just ok under rohr who will take care and bring out the best in him. that said the technical crew have to find more striking options to ensure more competition in the super eagles

Sterling's case is the worse of the lot. Completely overhyped but somehow he is regarded as part of the 'future' of city, it's absurd. Sane I can understand, but Sterling is a total fail

bigblangston:
This is my first time of doing this.

Can anyone give us an explosive detail about the drills kelechi had been doing since because I don't understand the drills that characterised 3-4 pages of this thread. I don't see anything bad about drills, is it not to improve the player eventually to the taste of the coach's policy and ideas so why the fuss about DRILLS...

kelechi, keep up the drills so that you can be an explosive and a better player for the eagles.

you mean the same drills that made him miss easy chances against Senegal. Honestly we should start looking for other options. He is trying to stay at Man City because he feels his place in our team is certain and that's rubbish. We have strikers performing: Adi, Kayode and a lot of other new ones, heck even Onyekuru can play in that position. We have top AMFs too, so I don't understand this talk about Nacho's over-hyped importance

Icon4s:
This Iheanacho's case. I don't think there is any thing yet to be said about it.

The good, the bad, the hype, the drills, the lack of game time, The Pep's Philosophy, the coming of Jesus, the need to leave and so on.

My own is I do not care about Man city, Pep and their Philosophy.

My concern in this case is are we going to the World Cup with a bench warming striker?
A striker that only takes part in drills?

I really feel for the boy. He needs help fast else before our very eyes we'll see Iheanacho disappear from the spot light.
Which is already happening.

Gernot Rohr, I know you can do something. Please talk to Pep to release Iheanacho. I take God beg you.

I remember you said that you wanted Nacho to stay at Man City because you like hearing about nigerians playing for top clubs, so you have seen the light? I just pray GoodJoe sees it too.

The problem with this particular setup is that we can't possibly be using a bench warmer as our top striker. Forget this talk, Nacho is losing it and Iwobi too is losing it, we can't possibly play both of them against a top opposition. Nacho was missing easy chances against Senegal then he tucked home a penalty and we played out a draw but since it was just a friendly we all kept quiet, if the same thing happens against SA only then we will start complaining

TheSuperNerd:
It is.... Doesn't still make Enyeama a solid candidate even if he returns to fitness tomorrow.

The matter of his return still hangs.

Judging by his latest tweet, I am guessing that he is going to welcome us with open arms. However I was just correcting Josehp's notion that he will be injured by then, I am not really saying that he is the solution to our GK issues but he might just tick the box

safarigirl:
that is 'on his day', doesn't happen every time for us.

Defenders or not, he sha lets in a goal 98% of the time, irrespective of the opposition. That is the same ratio Akpeyi has so far, he's not calamity Agbim and even that one helped us win a medal at CHAN.

Let's just be positive, we have a great team and we won our biggest game so far with Akpeyi between the sticks. All should be well

for every goal he has let him, he has kept out 15 others, I'd take that any day of the season

TheSuperNerd:
But he will definitely miss the South Africa game won't he?

And pending when he actually accepts a return to the team, he may not be available for cameoroun too.... So it is not just his injury.

I thought the game against SA is in June?

safarigirl:
Let's be sincere, Enyeama also had a thing for allowing at least one goal in (especially from a corner), it's not like he was that awesome . No be De Gea

No offence but I believe that on his day De Gea has nothing on Enyeama. When you score against Enyeama, nine times out of ten you can point at the defenders as the cause. If De Gea had the defence we had at the 2010 Afcon, he would conceed 10 atleast

TheSuperNerd:
I told the house that Enyeama was conspicuously missing from Lille's home win this past weekend. it was Maignan in goal.... now my suspicion is confirmed.... Enyeama is also injured and have been ruled out for the season. So even if he has accepted a return to the Eagles, He won't man goal against South Africa or even against Cameroun....

We are just Stuck with Daniel Akpeyi.... as if I foresaw that no matter what, It is Akpeyi that will keep goal.... So plsss.... since we wanna qualify... let us be positive about Akpeyi even though we know how calamitous and shaky he could be... let us try to encourage him because.... right now, he is all we have got in terms of experience between the sticks ahead of our competitive fixtures. Let us also bear in mind that he has only conceded one goal per game since he played against Egypt..... even on his debut against South Africa in a friendly in which Ahmed Musa scored a curling wonder goal... he conceded just once. We have only lost one game in which Akpeyi conceded once and that was in Alexandria....

Akpeyi's games:

vs South Africa (we drew 1-1 in South Africa and he saved a pen. and was named MOTM)

vs Egypt (we lost 1-0 in Alexandria)

vs Algeria (we won 3-1 in uyo)

vs Senegal (we drew 1-1 in Barnet, London)


This guy neva keep clean sheet yet but at least he has only lost once so far... let us hope he keeps his first clean sheet or that Nigeria outscores the opponents in case he concedes his "usual" one..... Abeg.... we must be at Cameroun 2019 and Russia 2018.... we must.
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Eagles Goalkeeper Crisis Worsens As Lille Confirms Enyeama Out For The Season


https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/image-42.jpg


Super Eagles goalkeeper crisis took a turn for the worst earlier today when Lille announced that Vincent Enyeama heavily linked with a return to the national team is out for the rest of the season.

Enyeama has missed the last three games of the club due to the injury, and according to an official statement from the team, he won’t take part in any of their games for the rest of the season.


The former Super Eagles captain was due to hold talks with Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr about a possible return to the national team, following doubts surrounding first choice goalkeeper Carl Ikeme who is battling to be fit.


Enyeama’s return has been severally discussed, with Rohr openly admitting he will love to have the experienced goalkeeper, who left the team after a disagreement with former coach Sunday Oliseh back.


Nigeria face South Africa in the AFCON 2019 Qualifiers on the 10th of June, with Rohr now faced with the prospect of either fielding Daniel Akpeyi or Ikechukwu Ezenwa, two goalkeepers who he doesn’t seem to have faith in.


**Ade Emmanuel

Source: http://owngoa.com/2017/04/27/eagles-goalkeeper-c/

nah, the injury isn't that bad, he will be back before June, the season ends in May, hence his inability to participate further

goldfish80:
This would be a massive deal if they can see it over the line. Hopefully Monaco will be signing 2 Nigerians in Azubuike Okechukwu and Simon. Would be nice having the new Kings of Europe parade 2 Nigerians. Mickeal2 remember our dare

I do remember. They took advantage of a scared Dortmund side and won a match that should have been postponed but that's in the past. Next week we will see how well they perform against Juve although they have impressed but that's the last hurdle

Humility017:
of course he is being biased....
there is point in his argument...
taiwo was one player I so admire during his stints with Nigeria age grade team...a great finisher
remember his goals against Uruguay..

just pray he lives up to our expectations

I am not saying he is a bad player, I am just saying that forgiveness is overhyping the lad. Against Uruguay or was it Mexico, I can remember that Yahaya did everything in the middle, gave it to Iheanacho who produced a brilliant over the top ball for Awoniyi and his only contribution was that he put it away, but Forgiveness is now saying that he saved us countless times which was false. He was merely the finisher there, he didn't really score any brilliant individual strike that won us games

forgiveness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byWdLcz2XyE

Chai! See Iheanacho before he went to the drilling master school. They have killed the best part of his game at Manchester City.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rUrPUgzp4E


Please, open your eyes and count how many times Awoniyi dribbled in that match.

He is a better player on the air than all his contemporaries at the U17 stage.

Someone even said he doesn't have the ability in him. Hahahaha! Very funny.

Awoniyi was the best player in a competition that featured Kelechi Iheanacho and the rest.

Football na luck.

The same Awoniyi out performance his contemporaries at the U20 WC.

Without Awoniyi who singlehandedly won matches for us at the U17, we for no carry cup.

Awoniyi singlehandedly won a match that qualified us to the U23 Africa Nations Cup.

Since, people wanted their boys to go to the Olympics, pressure was mounted on the poor lad and to add salt to injury, Siasia damaged his confidence when he dropped him at the last minute.

Psychologically, he was downcasted and unfortunately, he went to Germany with this mind set. Poor boy.

I am pretty sure you are just being biased because if you watched the U17 you would see that Awoniyi was merely a finisher. When did he win the best player at the U17? Last I checked Iheanacho did

Icon4s:
You sure know the boy.

His build up play is excellent. He will always need to play 1-2 touches with a team mate to get over his opponents.
But when it comes to facing a defender 1 on 1 he usually falls short.

He is an excellent team player and also good in finishing. But the dribbling skills is not just there.

you summed it up brilliantly. His two strong points are 1-2 touches and his finishing abilities. I do not really know about his aerial abilities but I remember it was just mildly okay