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BascoVanVeli:
IMO Tanzania's keeper was on a world class level that day and I don't see any keeper doing better with that goal.
Henry went ooh la la for Mbappe but he was playing Luxembourg.

I have absolutely zero problem with who they are scoring against. My problem is simple, Mbappe scores against Ligue1 defenders, they are backwater defenders, Nacho scores against Tanzania(with a bunch of homegrown defenders) and theSuperNerd won't stop talking about it, isn't that hypocritical?

Joebie:
That's the question I was asking you indirectly. Of course I know how they came up with that. Which I already stated. So let me ask you directly. Why prolong the argument with points that are subjective. we can argue till we all grow gray hair who is world class or not among those English players, but stats don't lie that EPL reps in Europe have performed better than Ligue 1 reps over the years. Shekina

Last season we had a french team in the UCL semi, English team? Error 404. This season we have an English....sorry French team yet again in the semis and the English teams aren't even close. English teams have been poor recently and Nacho is playing now, so don't tell me stuffs about the EPL that happened years ago. Presently french teams are doing better than English teams, Fact

Chrismario:
I know of Beckham,,,,and linker too.

I Neva watch the former,,, I'm just hearing and reading on media

Mcmanaman wasn't outstanding at Real Madrid by any stretch and he didn't even last long there. Lineker probably had a better career in Spain but he was by no means one of the top dogs during his days there

TheSuperNerd:
For goodness sake... not another mention mehn.... Lord!

Well.... twist it all you want Mister... 2.0 trumps 1.5 hehehehehehe....

You want us to acknowledge Mbappe's UCL stats while you water down Nacho's UCL stats abi... while you water down his impact in the EPL as super clinical abi?

Abeg shift joor.... 2.0 over 1.5 anytime any day... deal with it!

Ok let's compare their champions league stats. Iheanacho has two goals in the champions league group stages in dead rubber matches too, and when he had to face Madrid, he totally got lost, how is that something to dance about? Even Munir has a better champions league record than Nacho

BascoVanVeli:
Mbappe is a freak of nature, he is a boy built like a man. But when it comes to putting the ball in the net and creating goals, Nacho is truly on another level.

putting the ball in the back of the net? Come on man.

I remember when I mentioned that Nacho was scoring goals against Tanzania, theSuperNerd said you can only score against the team in front of you. Now let's use that logic for Mbappe, he has been scoring against teams in front of him for fun, in the league AND the champions league. I got tired of this argument when guys here wanted to ignore his UCL impact, I mean this lad is scoring against Borrusia, Man City and other top top teams, somehow someone wants to compare that stat to scoring the last goal in a demolition of Celtic who are used to collecting 6+ goals from every top team

binhozie:
Only Barca, madrid defenders and Godin and maybe some few others are the real threat for a very good striker, the premier league has top defenders scattered in the top 8 teams and beyond look at someone like fonte languishing in Sunderland or where self
Someone like Savic cannot start for Leicester self

why is Man City trying to sign Laporte for 50million plus? Have you ever heard of Theo Hernandez before? Are you sure you watch football at all? Savic won't start for Leicester? The same Leicester that Huth is playing for? God!

TheGoodJoe:
The EPL defences are harder.

I give up

TheSuperNerd:
On another day, at another time... it is still you what will come up and say... "Don't judge with just one game or one match-up"

They faced off in the UCL... and one team won over two legs... that is different from league football... come on Michael... don't bend the rules just to suit your argument....

So if An Iranian club beats Barca in the Club world cup... it means Iranian league is better abi... I just dey laugh... Na u suppose dey fear God pass...

they won them over two legs. One match is different, two matches is another thing entirely, they were better. Until a team from Iran achieves that feat you can't use that as an argument, a team like Villonevesse or something like that once held Barca in the first leg, the very next leg was a 6-1 demolition. If it was a one-off match, that team could have won on penalties so one games aren't really enough for me to judge but 2 legs? Come on

TheGoodJoe:
When you make a statement like this, then it explains why the debate is futile. If you believe the defences in Ligue 1 are stronger than those in the EPL, then I rest my case.

defences in the EPL and in the Spanish league which ones are better?

TheGoodJoe:
What of his second season? We are now using microscope in TheSuperNerd's lab to find his name.

we are also using the same Microscope to find his game time too. How do you expect him to score when he isn't playing? Van Gaal was the coach that wanted him and under Van Gaal he thrived, Mourinho is another person entirely so it's normal

TheSuperNerd:
Haba! simple question naa... What are you even saying? loooollll


I don laugh tire this night...

I said absolutely not, if not Man City would have scored more(against Monaco obviously). I mean Monaco scored over 5 goals against Man city, the 3rd best team in your English league with the same Mbappe banging the goals, haba what makes you think he can't do that against.... Watford that the same City walloped? SuperNerd fear God na

tbaba1234:
He scored 35 goals in 33 games at Ajax, the season before. The premier league is a harder league so he did improve.

true, the season before. The next season how many did he score? And lets also remember that he missed 10 games of that season yet managed 31 goals? What does that tell you? 31 goals in 28 games compare that to 35 in 33, which league leaks more goals?

TheGoodJoe:
Are they both in Ligue 1?

hahahahahahahahaha. Ok compare their champions league stats alone, leave the league stats

TheGoodJoe:
Is the Ligue 1 defences easier to break than the EPL?

absolutely not!!! If not Man City would have scored more

tbaba1234:
You do not think, Suarez has improved since his Ajax days??

Suarez came to Liverpool in the January transfer window, and the next season he scored 31 goals, he couldn't have improved that much in less than a year

x240:
Ogbeni..
When did Liverpool finish 6th when Saurez was around?
Don't dish out wrong facts. Liverpool finished 2nd in 2013-2014 season

Oga, I said after he left. Take a cold bath, then read that comment again

edi287:
Martial scored more in his first season at Man united than he ever did at Monaco. True or false??

true Sir because they won't answer. Couldn't forget his goal against Liverpool, one of the top teams that season

do4luv14:
SirMICKEAL2 hmmmm

to be candid, your points raised for MBEPPE against NACHO no hold water at all at all, ur point be like 'kasala burst goat yansh open'

am sure you don't take many things, like birthday place, when he joins Monaco, where does he grows up, and how many years does he spend as a manco youth before moving up,

if you can't provide a satisfactory answer to the above , sorry to say your points is a no brainer period

uhm, do you know the meaning of a 'no brainer'? Actually you are right

TheGoodJoe:
Suarez would score 31 with ease playing top nine in Ligue 1 without a doubt.

did he score 31 goals at Ajax?

TheGoodJoe:
If City played two strikers, Nacho would have raked more games. A lot more. During the last games, Guardiola experimented with a two striker system with Aguero playing the deeper role.

I think it was two games before the last game where Guardiola put Gabby on the right.

I meant last season under Pelligrini, I am still waiting for you to tell me who has the better chances created per 90mins and dribbling accuracy though

TheGoodJoe:
I can not wrap the logic of the statement.

Suarez will score far more for PSG if he was playing there than he did in Liverpool.

Stop running in circles. The point is too simple. Ligue 1 defence are easier to break than the EPL.

he was playing for Liverpool, a team that finished....6th? And finished...7th? After he left, hardly a great team. So are you telling me that Suarez playing for....Lyon(a team comparable to Liverpool in status) would score 31 league goals? Absolutely false! He couldn't even manage 31 league goals in Ajax

binhozie:
Monaco use two strikers mancity hardly if mancity use 2 strikers kelechi would have played all the games under pellegrini do you really think mbappe would start in man city last year or bench Aguero, not possible, mbappe is home grown he has all the ingredients to succeed,
De bruyne and hazard a comparable players but they were not when both were in chelsea , d gap seemed huge wait till iheanacho moves then compare him to Gabby J who is super hyped by the way.

even if Monaco starts operating a 4-5-1 like City did last season, Mbappe would still start as one of the wingers simple as that. And I think Man city played two strikers last season at some point...cc GoodJor

TheGoodJoe:
Put Ligue 1 in context. You can not compare it to EPL. We are talking football. I have given you the criteria. The tricks Sane pulls off, Mbappe can not pull them off. The ease with the ball, Mbappe can not.

Mbappe style involves running at goal. Sane plays with more intelligence and creativity.

Ok I just checked, throw in their chances created per 90 mins too, check that as well and tell me who is higher. I am waiting

TheGoodJoe:
I said you can not compare the ease of the Ligue 1 to that of the EPL. Do you agree? yes or no.

No, I have seen Suarez scoring for fun in the EPL, just because the strikers there are poor(I mean a league where Aguero is among the top 5 strikers, Christ) doesn't mean the league is tough

edi287:
Lmaoooooo please don't go there. Iheanacho is NOWHERE as skillful as Mbappe. Don't even think of arguing this one. Dribbling oo, tricks ooo, Nacho doesn't touch Mbappe.

Nacho is more skillful than Neymar too, only on this thread sha

TheGoodJoe:
Note that Nacho's stats are distorted because he has not have a steady fun of games. Also, Mbappe pulled most off against far easier defences.

So running stats is like filling a basket with water and hoping to use the water at home. Judge Nacho after his run of games.

Oga, check his dribbling accuracy, let's finish with Sane first

safarigirl:
let me use a term one of our threadmates here used a while ago. Compared to the EPL defenders, Ligue1 is filled with 'backwater defenders'

You want to mention Benzema here? The Ligue1 of Benzema'a time, is not the Ligue1 of these days. The champions of the Ligue1 of these days let in 6 goals after taking a 4-goal lead previously. Such shitty defending

well the champions of England got to the quaterfinals, the others, all of them put together were dispatched in the first round. When did losing 6-0 to Barca become a shameful thing? Just ask Madrid, it's not a new thing. Even Barca has lost 4-0 to Bayern before, next point

and back in those days, Lyon used to win the league with 20 points difference then, infact they were even more dominant than Psg

TheGoodJoe:
Counter the points. I have watched Mbappe enough to judge him. He does not have more tricks or move faster with the ball than Sane. Sane is more comfortable with the ball. Take away goals and no one will place Mbappe over Sane.

Will you rate Mbappe over Sane if you take away his goals?

how will I argue with you when you don't even know his strong points? Ok please go to whoscored and compare their dribbling accuracies and them come back since you haven't watched him play as a winger before, maybe all the matches you watched were recent games where he played as a 9

TheGoodJoe:
I am not talking of support cast. I am talking about the strength of the competition. You can not compare the strength of the defending in the EPL to that of Ligue 1.

Look at how Ajax played Ludo with Lyon and yet found it difficult to muster a good shot on target against Manchester United. The EPL even annoys me with the deep emphasis in defending.

Mbappe's major impact is not Champions League but Ligue 1.

Ajax played Ludo with Lyon? I insist you did not watch that match! Ajax were lucky in the second leg and everyone saw that. Why are you still talking about the league? He said only Raul has more goals in the ucl at that age, so we are talking about their ucl impact not league for now

edi287:
Has Onyekuru performed in the UCL?? Ibra and Cavani are shit players because they score in ligue 1?? The same Ligue un Benzema started from?

Ibra might have even won the top scorer in England if not for his injury but he came from the 'peasant farmers' league'

TheSuperNerd:
Looollll... Nacho even has more than 10 In the EPL... he has 12.... he hit the 10 goal mark before his 20th birthday on October 3rd last year.

Only few teenagers like Rooney, Owen, and about four or five others have scored 10 league goals in the EPL before age 20... Nacho became the youngest African to match that record and join that elite class of youngsters... and these guys are here yammerimg about Ligue 1....

Haba!!! You all should fear the Good God! Fear the Lord people.... He is merciful.... your sins can be forgiven....

12goals in 2 seasons? So that's what we are cheering? But you want to belittle 16 league goals in one season? Ok

TheSuperNerd:
Looollll... Nacho even has more than 10 In the EPL... he has 12.... he hit the 10 goal mark before his 20th birthday on October 3rd last year.

Only few teenagers like Rooney, Owen, and about four or five others have scored 10 league goals in the EPL before age 20... Nacho became the youngest African to match that record and join that elite class of youngsters... and these guys are here yammerimg about Ligue 1....

Haba!!! You all should fear the Good God! Fear the Lord people.... He is merciful.... your sins can be forgiven....

12goals in 2 seasons? So that's what we are cheering?