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Zombiekiller010:
To the mod that placed swearing on this topic before i can comment on it, you're on your own, Jesus all the way

They started forcing people to swear because people kept trolling all their topics

adamadwealthy:
You only assumed you understood my stance. May be re-read my comment and you will have a better grasp. I said what the writer called blunder is " deviation " as a result of the English language being a second language in our country. Go and learn from experts in the field of language and you will discover that no learner of a foreign language can use it perfectly like the native speakers. You're bragging about another man's language and have no plan to save your own indigenous language. I wonder why some Nigerians love to identity with everything foreign to the extent of labeling their fellow countrymen not smart for using the English language "incorrectly". There is nothing called substandard language anywhere. No matter the language, whether pidgin or creole, if the speaker and the audience can understand themselves, it's a complete language. Language primarily exists for communication. If it can perform that role, no issue whatsoever. I'm not insulting the intelligence of anyone, it's just that you're suffering from colonial mentality.

Oga, the fact that linguists have recognised that cultural and social factors can lead to deviant constructions does not preclude us recognising that said constructions are incorrect

"No learner of a foreign language can use it natively like native speakers"? And who told you we aren't native speakers? Who told you we are learners? As far as its our national language,we are native English speakers. We've been in contact with this language for at least 60 years, we use it to communicate and we have access to resources that teach it.

Germans and Spaniards are non-native speakers and learners, yet they start the language from secondary school and always make an effort to improve on it

Come on! We are intelligent enough to learn the rules of a language and apply them correctly, stop making feeble excuses

For your information, native, pidgin and Creole languages have rules and everybody follows them. That stuff in OP is not pidgin, it's wrong grammar

If OP made a post about pidgin blunders, would you be saying all this?

Is "I chop never" as correct as "I never chop"? Is that part of your so-called deviation?

You have a colonial mentality yourself but you don't even realise it. The colonialists and slave traders assumed that we were too stupid and lazy to learn how to do anything and you are thinking along the same lines

We don't need to wallow in ignorance, no knowledge is a waste

BlackHummer:
Wow! You could lie about studying international politics and get away with it

I studied Applied Mathematics.

Lol thanks. Well its good to keep up to date on these things, it may help us understand our own situation better

Hm. Shouldnt there be some kind of commemoration or day or mourning or something?

budaatum:
Have you not heard some say 'no deal is better than a bad deal'? They'll be in trouble with some of their people whatever they do since not all their people want the same deal.

The debates are ongoing. DUP are not having it because it splits them from UK. Labour will not have it because damn Boris. Scotland will not have it and neither will Wales because they want what Northern Ireland are refusing and some Tories won't have it because damn Boris and they want to Remain.

Fact is this is a Tory dilemma that goes back decades destroying every Tory Prime Minister since the 70s. It destroyed Margaret Thatcher, destroyed John Major, destroyed David Cameron, destroyed Teresa May and just might destroy Boris Boris!

UK can't leave Europe like Nigeria can't leave Africa or Biafra leave Nigeria. All the people can move of course, to Equitorial Guinea or Alaska if they like, but the land will remain Europe whether they like it or not!

Lol "no deal is better than a bad deal" was the most stupid thing they could have said, even if it may be true. Theresa may is now being lampooned for saying it...it was too divisive a statement to make considering how volatile the situation is

You are correct about all those things, I was just saying that if the deal is to go through, its all the mouth they have been making over the past 6 months that will do it

Its a Tory dilemma but its strange to see Tories openly opposing their leader; they are usually more united. Labour is usually more rowdy

Well those examples are not the same, its possible to still be in Europe and not be in the EU. The problem is how to leave. Nigeria can still leave ECOWAS if they so choose, but the land will still be in Africa

BlackHummer:
What did u study? Its like you are doing/did an international relations or some international studies program

No lol biochemistry but I just have an interest in these things. And you?

BlackHummer:
Syria is comprised of a growning 60% Islam population. Other religion is fragmented into bits of 10%, 5% or so and so it qualifies as an Islamic nation whether minor religious bits exists or not.

Yea, Nigeria is not an islamic state else I wount be able to type this....but the part of Nigeria with moslems is just so problematic.

Yeah you are right about that

BlackHummer:
Something is fundamentally wrong and they are too blind and arrogant to see it.

Yeah they have some kind of arrogance or isolationist behaviour, as if non-Muslims are not human beings. Not all of them though

But Islamic government policies are too harsh as well

BlackHummer:
Now you are getting the point.

I got the point I just didnt think Syria was a correct example since there are plenty of non-Muslim Syrians

Thats like referring to Nigeria as an Islamic country or saying that its problems are caused by Islam when really Islam is a secondary issue

BlackHummer:
You are not fully getting the point. Why always Islamic states? Why? Why? Whyyyyyyy?

Lol

I think its to do with its absolutist nature. Too much emphasis on perfection and "deeds" rather than thinking for yourself

BlackHummer:
What is the percentage of moslems in syria? Let's start from there. The fact is that moslems just have this aura of instabilty and chaos around them anywhere they go...even if they aren't the ones doing the fighting. That is why they even fight themselves.

I agree with you I was just pointing out that Syria is not really as simple as all that. Even Iran/Iraq were somewhat okay until people started interfering with it

Iraq and Syria were both socialist countries with a secular approach to religion..but religious sects still mattered in the background. It was the way they were divided by colonialists and the way power was allocated unequally to different regions/tribes/religions in order to favour outside interests that made everything spoil (just like Nigeria)

BlackHummer:
Any where moslems are, there is no peace. List of places occupied by moslems ravaged by war.
1. Syria

Well Syrias one is more of an ethno-religious or tribal issue. Its the British and French that basically caused most of it

godwon01:
Some if this so call U called nurses are not real nurses. They are auxiliary nurses. The trained nurses are very descent and don't furk around any how.

Well you cant cast aspersions on them either, what does being an untrained hospital staff have to do with promiscuity

uncle005:
As at when due is correct bro, i have been using it in my work place " Carried out inspection as at when due.

"As and when due" means "as it is due and when it is due", meaning carrying out the inspection as it is supposed to be carried out, at the correct time

So it cant be "as at when due"

fergie001:
Let me hear the smell........Mi8dnighter......leave me nau

Lol youve never heard it before?

adamadwealthy:
Every sentence you referred to as grammatical blunder is not a blunder in the real sense of its definition. It's a deviation. English is not our first language but a second language. You don't expect us to speak the language like the native speakers. What you termed incorrect is Nigeria's English. We have different 'Englishes' the world over. American English, South African English, Australian English and UK's English have various deviations from one and the other in terms of phonetics, syntax, semantics and grammar in general. Let's stop this mentality of correct and incorrect English sentences or statements in Nigeria. No native English speaker can use your indigenous language like you. You will always find issues with a learner of your language. Don't put yourself under any linguistic yoke. Nigeria has come of age to have her own variety of the English language. Let's nativise the English language in order to express our local contents. Where a Nigerian man says: be my eye in that meeting ", a Britisher would say: represent me in that meeting." Let me say this more authoritatively, no learner of the English language can use it like the native speakers. Why? They determine correctness and incorrectness of their own language. Anyway what counts in any given communication is understanding. There should be no qualms as long as your audience understands you. I'M AN ADVOCATE OF NIGERIAN ENGLISH.

There is a difference between Nigerian English and a grammatical blunder.

Dont insult the intelligence of Nigerians by excusing bad grammar as "Nigerian English"

Being a Nigerian or a black person doesnt mean we should speak a lower grade of English than anybody else or English that's full of mistakes just to make ourselves feel empowered

Making a mistake in grammar is not a crime, we can correct the person and move on

"Lacking behind", "He is matured", "the reason is because" Are all wrong! And there is nothing "Nigerian" about them. Being Nigerian is not synonymous with not being able to learn something or correct your mistake

indigene:
Have you filled a form where these are written
First Name
Last Name
Other Names
??
In money matter, correct English doesn't matter, what matters is correct amount

You just proved my point. Now you've separated it into its parts

Your name is made up of several names

Just like you wouldn't say " I combed my hairs" or "I soaked the garris"

indigene:
Number 9: My names are , Wrong? ( I don't accept it)
If my names are Tamuno Gideon Okporobome Nwachukwu Dagogo Jack? Is it not are?
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It cant be "are" unless you have different names for different occasions.. your name is a noun phrase, the whole thing is taken as a single thing and not individual parts

Muhammad2545:
See below

hm. you take mohammad name use do rubbish

make muslims no swear for you o

Slimsly100:
Try it, you will like it.

Thanks

Harbeeorlar:
For where? We are far far ahead! Even if you eat it as three square meal, it will take you donkey years to catch up
I made my wife to love it too

Lol I cant eat it as 3 square meals you win

VeeVeeMyLuv:
now you are talking.

I don't know if it also happens to you ladies,
But Any day I Physically work hard to the max or I work night shift, the "urge" and it's effects heightens going from 20 - 100+ % especially when I sleep and wake up.

Yes, i think I read somewhere that people feel like that the morning after working out because of increased testosterone though I dont know if its true

kevwemike:
Pls no 20 is wrong, the person giving out is lending while the one taking is borrowing . E.g money lender

Yes, so its

"(Please could you) Lend me your pen"

traihit:
Many words classified as wrong here are just usage dependent. Else, how can 'horn' be wrong and 'honk' right when 'honking' is American English?

Because "horn" cannot be used as verb in this context and "honk" can

"Horning" is when an animal uses its horn to attack somebody

Honk is a normal English word and not particularly American

Airoflaw:
Everything is correct /not correct(wrong) ...as long as the other party understand what you meant .communication has been achieved!
Wetin i go dey confuse myself with English whey correct

Lol please yourself

prinxwizard:
Number 19 na lie.....

WrathOfHadez:
No 19 is also worrisome. How does "I left my phone behind" convey that one actually forgot his phone and not deliberately left it?

Its kind of true,

If you say "I forgot my homework at home", are you trying to say that you left it at home or that when you were at home, you couldnt remember it?

FrLukas:
Ok. Thanks.

You're welcome, that "all-night vigil" is the church kind though

If you are staying awake with a sick person or looking out for something it will still be "vigil"

"We kept vigil beside him while he slept"

FrLukas:
Ok. Now this makes sense. All-night vigil. Surely you can keep vigil in the day time too or is there another word for daytime vigil?

There are two meanings of "vigil"

Holding a vigil is the one where you stay up all night for a particular reason

Then "vigil" is a Catholic celebration day

So when you want to specify that its the first one, you'll say "all-night vigil"

17. Exercise patience is correct, nothing wrong with it. But it's just old fashioned

18. Barbing salon is correct, but "saloon" is the wrong word

21. More grease to your elbow is correct but more power to your elbow is more formal

29. I will sleep at 10PM is fine

"23. My body is scratching me (wrong)" this is just what happens when we translate straight out of our native languages into English

You will get funny results like "my body is paining me", "my eye is turning me", "let me hear the smell" "come and buy my market" "I am at your front"

FrLukas:
Can you tell us why night vigil is wrong? Are you saying there can't be morning or afternoon vigil?

It's rather called an "all-night vigil" or just a "vigil". Its just over here we say "night vigil"

Should:
How is it ranked ?
and besides, i thought Islam hates this symbol?

Its not a star of David (6 points) its just a star made with two squares (8 points)

Islamic art contains a lot of geometric patterns

By the way how do you cope with having a monicker like "Should" your mentions must be a mess

Front page material

OP Please can you try and space this into paragraphs? Otherwise people wont be bothered to read it and the information you're giving is important