JahBwoy:


Sense dey yah head so?
Which of the social vice did you take permission for before committing?
Or you are among the Holier than thou?

I just understood what you meant, I've modified

whizzy2good:
Don’t let one woman over hype this issue for you. Might be a weed bung. No biggy in smoking weed, he should just do it responsibly and not indoor.

If he were normal, he would have asked for OPs permission before starting to smoke weed indoors in the first place, since he's in somebody else's house.

The babe is not hyping anything, that guy is gone already

Go to an addiction treatment centre and seek step-wise advice. Drug addicts can become violent and irrational

If it were just weed I wouldn't be saying this, but crystal meth is just another thing. You'd better go and meet a trained addiction counsellor

And since you gym, why not take him with you some days? It seems that he is just directionless upon the loss of his job and needs a new focus or interest

Lifewithme:


Lmao. Only if you know what emotions can do to people. I type trash a lot when in sad, happy or confused. Just take a chill pill. She needs help not grammar checkers.

But the thing is that it was genuinely so difficult to read what she wrote.

Maybe that guy went overboard, but he had a point.

Governor of bayelsa state? So what happened to that guy who was speaking chop-chop English...

They look like pieces of fried chicken...

I wonder if they have prison rape there like other jails, now that they're all naked....

But why don't these old men get a sensual massage and slow-paced sex that will relax their nerves as per their age

Why must they go for a crazed, drug-fuelled romp that will separate soul from body? Is it exciting for them or what...

Do their wives even know that they like this kind of thing See drugs ooo..haba

Terrible...

See the state of the girl...just to make small change on top her soft drink...jeez...

lefulefu:
that is if op can cook

Lol well he can start practising from today...no time like the present

lefulefu:
nothing wrong with kfc but might be too expensive for op

Lol if its like that you'd better cook something nice for her at home and present it nicely instead of suffering yourself...who KFC epp...

lefulefu:
na the truth i yarn na

Lol anyway, nothing wrong with KFC but I think a rated restaurant or quiet lounge would be better in this case

lefulefu:
u can take her to a cheap eatery....no too stress urself over valentine.over here some guys take their girls to KFC and KFC for here is regarded as a place for ppl with low income though i know KFC in naija will be expensive and regarded as a place for big boys.so u can take her to an eatery that ur budget can take and if u want to buy something for her then purchase something withing your budget.

Lmao you just spoilt KFC valentines market...make dem no sue you o

luminouz:

Lmaoooo...of course the malo are not bound by that religious yigi-yaga and all that BS!!! Of course they fuq like they want. Restrictions are for almajiris.

You said Anjelina Jolie has a cat-like personality and is weird. I wanna know what you meant by that.

Okay o...its still quite hard to believe though..

I think you would have to watch her movies and follow her interviews to know what I am talking about, I cant really expand on it any more than I have already.

SangoOlukosoOba:
Buy roasted plantain and groundnut, Take her to the emergency parking points on 3rd mainland bridge and share a blissful time together.

HA. hahaha

I know you were trolling but to be honest, sitting in the car with somebody gisting and taking snacks can be fun

A good book that you think I would benefit from reading
Baking supplies/ kitchen wares
Stationary, I mean a good quality pen or nice notepaper
A watch or a desk clock
Dress material
1/2 pieces of high-quality make-up

Hmmm

Anyway at the end, I still want my cake

So the answer to your question is: Both.

KingSatan:


Sorry for the misconceptions.

They call theirs Nikah.

It's the traditional marriage ceremony.

Okay, I understand you now

I like their style too but I dont see anything wrong with our big celebrations either. As long as the 2 people who are marrying understand each other and have good priorities

KingSatan:


Exactly my friend.

I am not saying Northerners don't have a problem. Ofcoure they do.

Infact, their Problems poses a huge threat to our economy and sovereinity.

But for Marriage, they are still doing well.

And that because the elites know the direct impact that flamboyant weddings and cultural modifications will have on marriages and their baby breeding political agenda.

I dont understand; is it wedding youre talking about or marriage?

Their weddings may be simple, but their marriages clearly arent otherwise we wouldnt be seeing all that we are seeing.

Her gown, veil, bouquet, cake, earrings and all others are on point. And the guy's suit looks

And I love the filter they used for the photo, so classy and fine.

10/10, this is truly beautiful.

I was expecting to see some "do not despise the days of small beginnings" kind of photo but I have been pleasantly surprised...this must be one of the best wedding photos I have seen on here.

Kingsteve:

Let me join the useless bandwagon...

I have her video!

Lol issa lie

luminouz:


Malo is the opposite of almajiri... They are the elite,most educated and most exposed. Looking at that her ex and the girl,you can see they clearly are well fed,possibly from rich backgrounds and attractive looking. The almajiri are the opposite of these things. Fed with religious dogma and chained by its fanaticism,they are forever made slaves by the malos,who they outnumber a million to one.

N.B: you still owe me explanation on Angelina Jolie

Noted, but are they just free to sex themselves as per whats normal down here? Like it at least has some conservatism in comparison with the South, right?

Lol I didnt understand your question that day; what exactly did you want to know about Angelina Jolie? I dont know her personally o I just like her a lot

Anyway I dont even watch their movies but this is my favourite northern actress, please nobody should upload any nonsense or spoil her for me

luminouz:


They are humans like you and have feelings. She is not even almajiri...she is a malo. Whoever told you they are chaste and pious is lying.

Humans will always be humans.

I realised that that statement was provocative so Ive already removed it.

Whats a malo?

Anyway packaging matters a lot; the way they portray themselves is different to how we do down south and it affects how people see them. At least their dressing is more decent than ours even if they are hypocritical about it

Kingsteve:

Na lie ooo...
Na make-up things.
Watch the video and see the real her.
She's alright, but not so beautiful.

I saw some screenshots, I still think she looks good

The person who uploaded her vid is going to hell!

This lady is so beautiful

jelel6:
It was out of respect that I've indulged your MAJOR deviation from the original topic of this thread, which have to do with the Islamic viewpoints concerning dealings with usury.

You are not indulging me anything, the FTC is a Muslim and is the one who deviated the topic of discussion. Then you quoted me and deviated it even more.

So you should be directing that comment to yourselves, bye

CosmicJames:


I don't think anyone is attacking virgins.
People are just trying to state the obvious fact. That fact that being a virgin doesn't automatically make anyone a good person or good wife material.

She was trivialising the value of chastity by bringing in opposing concepts such as being a harlot which doesn't make any sense.

If you built a house with your sweat and somebody said "Ehn, no be house wey Atiku build, even armed robber dey build na, all house na house" don't you think you would find it irritating?

That is "pull me down" or "crabs in a bucket" syndrome that is very common among black people.

The OP was talking about signs of good upbringing. Instead of them to raise other points of good upbringing that should be considered in conjunction with the virginity stuff like being neat, being able to cook, being prudent with money, etc they jumped and started taking about sluts and slay queens to make themselves feel better smh

Everybody knows that the sole act of keeping a flap of skin intact can never automatically make somebody a good person so there's no need for all these machinations.

Witnes:

What I plainly don't understand is what benefit to these men having sexual act with men despite having wives, g/friend or any rituals attach to it?

I heard that when you have access to any kind of girl you want, sex now becomes boring so they begin to explore with guys to make it more interesting.

Vortex369:
I am watching some Sci-Fi Movies, so no time to read. Sorry if the content was important for you,

Im sorry too. Enjoy your movie dear, bye

Vortex369:
I am not in the mood to read anything now.

Hahahaha I'm sure youre not. Good evening!

jelel6:


You've said a lot of things here. Some how, you've completely sidestepped Who's IDEA YOU THINK Religion - Islam - IS.

I should be able to get that answer for you clearly here. Please, I'll repeat, tell me in no uncertain terms WHOS IDEA ISLAM or Christianity ITSELF is?

You seem to know quite a lot about Islam. So, to have me believe you've not read, or hear a popular Muslim figure speak out against terrorism is baffling.

Even on this board, there have been topics addressing the Islamic viewpoints. I'm very unbothered if you chose not to accept or acknowledge that. As Muslim, we say what Islam preaches as best and through to it as possible. Don't expect us to have validation from the THINKERS before we move ahead. The religion is throughly a way of life. We can't only teach ourselves about it stance against terrorism. There's much more to it and we have to educate ourselves about all of it.

Islam as it is today, have given enough room for rationale. It doesn't ask us not to put it through a litmus test. But when you think you have a BETTER ALTERNATIVE by saying YES to what was explicitly directed to be NO, pardon our stubbornness for chosing to stick with the rationale of someone who claims to be All-knowing.

THINKERS Cherry pick rationale that suits their position. And their can be several reasonable position regarding the same DISPUTE.

WHEN THERE'S an Islamic position Clearly on a subject matter, we defer to it. That's what being a Muslim is all about.

You side-stepped first which is why I keep trying to get you to stick to the point.

You asked me whose idea I think religion is because you were trying to disregard the importance of exploring alternative views by saying that religion will always mean different things to different people. Youve been throwing out that line through all your posts and I keep telling you that its hypocritical of you to do that.

You want me to say that I believe religion was God's idea, so that you can tell me that if I truly believe in God's omniscience I should take it without question but Im not going down that road because its not relevant to the issue.

Thats why I told you that whose idea I think it is is not the point. The point is, now that the "idea" or religion is here, how do we go about teaching it to people in a way that benefits society?

Using the sacred intelligence that God gave us to question religious teaching is more respectful to Him than dumbing ourselves down for His sake and ending up committing atrocities, supposedly "in His name".

I didnt say I had never heard anybody speak against terrorism. I said that with regard to NL front page, which reaches millions of people, I had not seen the amount of detail and dedication offered to relevant topics such as fundamentalism, terrorism, elitism and other such things that are actually relevant to Islam in Nigeria in 2020 that is offered to whether a Muslim should own a dog or whether a Muslim should eat garlic and onions.

You say that you cant keep focusing on terrorism which is still hypocritical because Jihad is a fundamental tenet of Islam. So that means youre purposely avoiding talking about Jihad just so that you can avoid confronting the fact that inferiority complex towards Arabs and some twisted romance of psychotic ideals of following the Sunnah of the Prophet saww by engendering misplaced 7th century violence involving attacking random civilians have co-opted the idea.

But because you argue that there are "2 sides to every coin", you people will keep sweeping it under the carpet and pretending the issue doesnt exist while more people are murdered because of poorly-explored ideologies that you refuse to refute properly because you dont want to be a "THINKER".

Its really becoming pathetic and it communicates to me that you people dont take these things seriously. Or even that you agree with them being that way.

Anyway, I can see that you, like so many others on this board, refuse to accommodate other perspectives. I am not surprised.

Happy Saturday to you; Bye!

Stephenmoka4:
Exactly, it's not as if a virgin can't get deflow any moment, some people choose to keep themselves for their future spouse; which is good. You will notice that most non-virgins are the ones that judges virgins most, they will find 100 reasons here and there to prove a dumb point. It's quite reasonable that virginity doesn't defined a potential spouse as it's stands now, a promiscuous/non-virgin person could be detected as a player, fling, unserious etc by some set of people.

Yes, each to their own. Both virgins and non-virgins need to work on themselves, its just one aspect of you as a person that doesnt mean you should neglect other aspects of your character.

What Im railing against is this idea that it doesnt matter. Just because it doesnt matter to YOU, it doesnt mean that other people who say it is important to them are stupid.

Anyway this is just a backlash from our over-religious society that looks down on people who are sexually liberated. So people who wish to be sexually liberated then kick against people who choose not to deviate from the "norm".

When actually, it just depends on your personal instincts, life experiences and how you relate with your spouse.

Vortex369:


You should have obeyed to instinct function to remain silent in your malapropism than pretend to understand the premise of the discourse; Can we say Virgins are good girls and wife materials? The answer is very simple when you take out your silly savior programs of morality out of the equation and dissect what virginity means without the morally generated emotions of religious correctness, which is silly.

The title of the topic was one thing, your answer was another.

The fact remains that stating that "virginity is neither virtue nor vice" is an irrational statement to make. Whether or not it is a virtue depends on the owners intention and her prospective husbands orientation (which is often influenced by an overarching worldview, like religion or tradition).

You said that "virginity has no correlation on mannerisms and activisms", when thats exactly what it does. Remaining a virgin in an era of sexual freedom is a counter-cultural behaviour that should be examined by a partner to determine its aim and context.

Morality is not silly. Societal systems and organisation are not silly. I mean YOU are really the silly one for trying to dismiss the importance of these concepts. The most you can say is that they dont matter to YOU in particular and not that they are silly.

The title of the OP and his expatiation in his opening statement was also another. He supposed that keeping chaste could be a sign of good home training and moral upbringing, which it could be, among other things.

The extreme opposite of this would be that living a careless sexual life could be a sign of bad home training and immoral upbringing, which it could be, among other things.

So all of what youre writing up there is just directionless ranting. Why did you only respond to the title and not what the OP wrote afterwards?

The fact that both good and bad girls were both once virgins is irrelevant. The crux of the matter is at what point and in what manner the person ceased to be a virgin, and the fact that non-virginity is an evolving quantity while being a virgin is constant. Stop using reductive argument to make it as if youre making any sense, because you arent!

All we can say is that its not a total guarantee of good character but that it is indicative of other characteristics such as self-control, a serious undertaking of Christian/Muslim life and a good attitude to commitment.

How can you remove virginity from morality and then try to associate morality with intelligence? Are dumb people automatically immoral? Youre not saying anything at all. Virginity upon marriage is not automatically moral but a symbol of some aspect of morality, "as proselytised by the Mosaic Religions".

It is not silly to take sexual behaviours into account when considering a life partner. It is only wrong to totally discount the persons other attributes in pursuit of that aspect.