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Christianity EtcRe: The "I Am" Sayings In The Book Of John by MightySparrow: 11:43pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
Kindly try and read well or better open your eyes!

"I am" followed by a metaphor!
How?
Christianity EtcRe: The Churches That Broke Away From The Catholic Church. by MightySparrow: 11:42pm On May 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
In the beginning Rome as a nation stood against the disciples of Christ and all of them suffered greatly in the hands of Roman Emperors in fact Apostle Paul was beheaded by a Roman Emperor.

Politicians often seek means to expand their territory by all means so when Constantine a Roman Emperor discovered that he could use the Apostates (former members of the church) to strengthen his government he invited them and formed a council this council are the ones who started the Roman Catholic Church but it wasn't easy for them because the real disciples (Christians) knew these ones aren't really interested in what Jesus taught they're only yearning for positions. 3John 1:9-10
So these Apostates started instigating the Roman Emperor against the real Christians claiming they're against the Christ and since the Emperor's main objective is politics while true Christians don't practice politics he gave the apostates all the support they needed to wipe out the true Christians.
That was how the Catholic Church became the prominent religion people knew back then as Christians. The real disciples of Christ don't engage in politics or military services because their leader commanded them to be harmless as dove {Matthew 10:16} which will be extremely impossible for politicians who only want the backing of men! Matthew 19:26

If you are open minded you will notice that the Catholic Church has nothing to say or do when members of their church are fighting against their fellow worshipers in other lands, that's totally unchristian because Jesus commanded his own disciples to have love among themselves just as he love them {John 13:34-35} meaning that it's better for them to lay down their lives in behalf of their fellow believers than to be the ones killing their brothers in the faith.

So my friend the Catholic Church is the religion that promoted what the Bible called the Antichrist religion that bears the name of Christ but has nothing to do with his opinion rather they're doing the direct opposite of what he laid down as legacy! 1John 2:18; 2John 1:7

If you want to know more about this Google "the dark ages" you will be shocked to see the atrocities committed by the same Catholic Church in the past which led many to protest against the church becoming PROTESTANTS.
This is just a community biased truth lacks the historical facts that led to separation of first, the revolt of Martin Luther, King Henry VIII and eventual separation of groups from Catholic Church.

Tell us the real truth if you know.
Christianity EtcRe: James The Brother Of Jesus Never Believed Jesus To Be God by MightySparrow: 11:35pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
Of course you are a heretic.
Which of the disciples believed Jesus was an Angel like Jehovah witnesses believes?
In the Bible Elohim can be used for gods, human, Angel and God.
So your own claim that Jesus is an Angel is lesser than theirs that claim he is God!
Jas.1.1 - James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ , to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.


Can you call Mohammed Lord?
Christianity EtcRe: Differences In The Resurrection Accounts In The Gospels by MightySparrow: 11:31pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
How is this related to the thread?
Very related, what is your purpose for this thread?
Christianity EtcRe: Contradictions about Judas's death and Field of Blood! by MightySparrow: 11:29pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
Judas Iscariot was the disciple of Jesus who betrayed him in the Bible. Jesus did promise him and other disciples rulership with him on thrones but i still wonder why he could betray him after such great promise!

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matthew 19:28

Judas in the Gospels
Matthew:
In the Gospel of Matthew, Judas agrees to betray Jesus to the chief priests for thirty pieces of silver. He identifies Jesus to the authorities by kissing him, a signal of betrayal. After Jesus is arrested, Judas regrets his actions, returns the silver, and then goes out and hangs himself.

Mark:
The Gospel of Mark also portrays Judas as the one who betrays Jesus to the religious authorities. Judas arranges to hand Jesus over to them with a kiss. However, Mark does not provide details about Judas' fate after the betrayal.

Luke:
In Luke's Gospel, Judas agrees to betray Jesus and identifies him to the authorities with a kiss. After Jesus is arrested, Judas realizes the gravity of his actions and attempts to return the money. The religious leaders refuse to take the money back, and Judas throws the coins into the temple before going out to hang himself.

John:
The Gospel of John also narrates Judas' betrayal of Jesus. Judas is depicted as the one who betrays Jesus by identifying him with a kiss. After Jesus' arrest, Judas is not mentioned as returning the money as in the other Gospels. Instead, John's Gospel focuses more on the interaction between Jesus and Judas during the Last Supper, highlighting Jesus' foreknowledge of the betrayal.
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Gospel of Luke:
In the Gospel of Luke (Luke 22:3-6, 47-48), it is mentioned that Judas betrayed Jesus and then went on to regret his actions. Judas returns the silver to the chief priests and elders, and then in remorse, he goes out and hangs himself. This narrative in Luke's Gospel presents a straightforward account of Judas' death by suicide.

Book of Acts also allegedly written by Luke:
In the Book of Acts (Acts 1:18-19), there is a different description of Judas' death, which is more graphic and symbolic. It states that Judas acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, fell headlong, and his body burst open, spilling out his intestines. This depiction does not align with the more straightforward hanging mentioned in the Gospel of Luke.

How can Luke write two different accounts of death for one person? lipsrsealed
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Field of Blood
The discrepancy regarding the field where Judas hanged himself and why it is called the "Field of Blood" is found in the accounts of Judas' death in the Gospel of Matthew and the Book of Acts. Here is an explanation of this apparent contradiction:

Gospel of Matthew:
In Matthew 27:3-8, it is mentioned that after Judas remorsefully returns the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, they use the money to buy the potter's field as a burial place for foreigners. This field came to be known as the Field of Blood because it was purchased with blood money (the price paid for betraying Jesus) and associated with Judas' betrayal and subsequent death.

Book of Acts:
In Acts 1:18-19, it is stated that Judas acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, fell headlong, and his body burst open, spilling out his intestines. This field is also referred to as the Field of Blood in this account, but the emphasis is on the violent and graphic nature of Judas' death rather than the purchase of the field with the money he received for betraying Jesus.

Why is that Field called Field of blood? lipsrsealed
Again I am asking you, what do think is the reason for the differences?
Or what let me help you, what are Synoptic Gospels?
Christianity EtcRe: Differences In The Resurrection Accounts In The Gospels by MightySparrow: 11:25pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
You should tell us!
This is why you are not qualified to criticize the Bible.
I once asked you and asking you again and now: give Ames ayat that asked you aid any Muslim to criticize the Bible.
Christianity EtcRe: We Should BAN All Foreign Religions To Move Forward by MightySparrow: 11:21pm On May 15, 2024
Foolish talk of the millennium.

What has the gods of your fathers profit them/us? Oyinbo came with religion, education and improved our quality of life.

What exactly were blacks before Oyinbo came to Africa?
Christianity EtcRe: Differences In The Resurrection Accounts In The Gospels by MightySparrow: 11:14pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
The resurrection accounts in the four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) describe the events surrounding Jesus' resurrection from the dead. While the core message of Jesus' resurrection remains consistent across the Gospels, there are variations and contradictions in the details of the accounts. These differences have been a subject of scholarly discussion and debate. Below are some of the main contradictions in the resurrection accounts:

1.**Number and Identity of Women at the Tomb**:
- The Gospels differ in the number and names of women who visited the tomb:
- **Matthew**: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
- **Mark**: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome
- **Luke**: Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and other women
- **John**: Mary Magdalene

2. **Time of the Visit to the Tomb**:
- The Gospels disagree on the time that the women visited the tomb:
- **Matthew**: After the Sabbath, at dawn
- **Mark**: At sunrise
- **Luke**: At early dawn
- **John**: While it was still dark

3. **Number and Identity of Angels at the Tomb**:
- The Gospels vary in the number and appearance of angels at the tomb:
- **Matthew**: One angel sitting on the stone
- **Mark**: One young man dressed in white
- **Luke**: Two men in dazzling clothes
- **John**: Two angels in white sitting where Jesus' body had been

4. **Reaction of the Women**:
- The Gospels differ in how the women reacted to the discovery of the empty tomb and the angels:
- **Matthew**: They left with fear and joy
- **Mark**: They fled and said nothing to anyone
- **Luke**: They told the apostles and others, but their words seemed like nonsense
- **John**: Mary Magdalene ran to tell Peter and the beloved disciple

5. **Post-Resurrection Appearances**:
- The Gospels present varying accounts of Jesus' post-resurrection appearances:
- **Matthew**: Jesus appeared to the women, the eleven disciples on a mountain in Galilee, and to the eleven disciples in Jerusalem.
- **Mark**: The appearances are less detailed and end with the women fleeing from the tomb.
- **Luke**: Jesus appeared to two disciples on the road to Emmaus, to the eleven disciples in Jerusalem, and on a mountain in Bethany.
- **John**: Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene, to the disciples without Thomas, and then to the disciples with Thomas present.

6. **Location of the Ascension**:
- The Gospels differ on the location of Jesus' ascension into heaven:
- **Mark**: The ascension is not described.
- **Luke**: The ascension occurs in Bethany on the day of Jesus' resurrection.
- **Matthew**: The ascension is not mentioned in Matthew's Gospel.
- **John**: The ascension is not described.

lipsrsealed
What do you think is responsible for the differences?
Christianity EtcRe: The "I Am" Sayings In The Book Of John by MightySparrow: 11:11pm On May 15, 2024
Kobojunkie:
▶ Below are I am claims made by Jesus Christ that are recorded in the other Gospels!



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...All these illustrations are good but where the word is used uniquely is not as explained by the OP



John.8.56 - Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
John.8.57 - Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
John.8.58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John.8.59 - Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

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Christianity EtcRe: The "I Am" Sayings In The Book Of John by MightySparrow: 11:02pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
The "I am" sayings in the Gospel of John are significant statements where Jesus uses the phrase "I am" followed by a metaphorical description, such as "I am the bread of life" or "I am the light of the world." These statements are unique to the Gospel of John and are not found in the other Gospels.

I am the bread of life (John 6:35)
I am the light of the world (John 8:12)
I am the gate for the sheep (John 10:7)
I am the good shepherd (John 10:11)
I am the resurrection and the life (John 11:25)
I am the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6)
I am the true vine (John 15:1)

In terms of modern scholarship and research, there is ongoing debate about whether these "I am" sayings can be directly traced back to the historical Jesus, considering that the Gospel of John was written later than the other Gospels. Here are some key points to consider:

- **Scholarly Views**: Some scholars argue that the "I am" sayings in John represent theological reflections and interpretations by the Johannine community rather than direct quotes from Jesus. They view these statements as a literary device used by the author of John to convey theological truths about Jesus.

- **Historical Authenticity**: Due to the unique nature of these sayings in the Gospel of John and the theological themes they emphasize, some scholars are cautious about attributing them directly to the historical Jesus. They suggest that these sayings may reflect the beliefs and teachings of the early Christian community that developed over time.

- **Contextual Considerations**: The Gospel of John is known for its distinctive theological and literary style compared to the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke). The "I am" sayings play a central role in John's presentation of Jesus as the divine Son of God, which differs from the portrayal in the other Gospels.

In summary, while the "I am" sayings in the Gospel of John provide valuable insights into the theological perspectives of the early Christian community, their direct connection to the historical Jesus is a matter of scholarly debate. The unique theological emphasis and literary style of the Gospel of John suggest that these sayings may reflect the beliefs and interpretations of the Johannine community rather than verbatim statements spoken by Jesus during his ministry.

lipsrsealed
Another nonsense from an unrepentant islamist.


Can you repeat after me.
Please read aloud to yourself: in the name of Allah, in the name of Mohammed, in the name of Jubril.


Just read it aloud to yourself.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs Newcastle (3 - 2) On 15th May 2024 by MightySparrow: 10:56pm On May 15, 2024
Which one concern me as long as Chelsea plays Europa next season
Science/TechnologyRe: What Is The Name Of This Fly (photo) by MightySparrow: 10:08pm On May 15, 2024
SEGLIZ:
okay, we call this gúlúso, some call it kúlúso in Yórùbá dialect.
Kuluso does not have wings
Science/TechnologyRe: What Is The Name Of This Fly (photo) by MightySparrow: 10:07pm On May 15, 2024
Flying saucergrin
PoliticsRe: $25 Billion Nigeria-Morocco Gas Pipeline Project Advances Into Northern Section by MightySparrow: 7:19pm On May 15, 2024
TheBillyonaire:
Thankfully, we were able to boycott Niger and the neighbouring axis of evil.
Have you forgotten ISIS West Africa, Boko Haram, bandits of Nigeria?

Dem dey o.
PoliticsRe: Between Sanwo-Olu, Prince Harry And The Special Pen by MightySparrow: 7:11pm On May 15, 2024
NaijaRoyalty:
What's special about the pen ?

The prince didn't come with his own pen as seen in the picture below so decided to use sanwo's pen 🖋️ and you guys want to make a big deal out of it?

No be everything be news na
Pen for stealing lagosians money, is that not special?
Christianity EtcRe: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MightySparrow: 6:56pm On May 15, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Which one
Job lose his wealth cos he did not pay tithes shey?
Ask him.
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 6:54pm On May 15, 2024
Aemmyjah:
God of mightysparrow Papa
My own God, Jehovah of the Bible, the testimony of Israel, the Unchangeable One.

Not the god of GB that changes with the whims and caprices of any nonsensical GB. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MightySparrow: 6:52pm On May 15, 2024
Aemmyjah:
May Jehovah not let me be an apostate
I've seen enough from this stupid liar, that old insanity peddler and that One that watches porn and he's so lost that he wants to live alone in another planet yet claiming he exists in all planet...

If I want to stop being a JW, 3 things are involved

I could become irreligious or atheist
I could become an apostate
I could join another religion


It's tantamount to
Irreligious/Atheism = eating no food
Apostasy = eating poison
Another religion= eating wrong food

That's why, not one atheist or apostate or religion could proudly endorse the other
So far, It seems oladegbu is the only person with a church with a name while others are too precious to mention
Even mightysparrow that carries Papa on his head like Sultan turban is not even a Winners member
Eeyah
😂
When you alter the scriptures to suit your interpretations, what more is apostasy? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MightySparrow:
MaxInDHouse:
OLAADEGBU only feels people have rated his pastor so high but come to think of it Kumuyi is just within his Deeperlifer people he is not as widely rated as Daddy GO the diplomat who welcomed women with makeups and jewelries while Kumuyi is still living in the dark ages with Catholic nuns! cheesy
Hahaha. Kumuyi and Adeboye are serving not your God. They are trinitarians. Your own god went on holidays since the death of the last apostle. Besides, can you show us your latest photo with your full grown beard? Lately, your GB approved women wearing trousers to meetings ( New Light) grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: A Country Built On Foundation Of Murder And Injustice Can’t Have PEACE by MightySparrow:
AbuTwins:
Islam does not preach Illiteracy nor does it encourage begging! Try to separate Islam and Muslims if you are sincere! And Nigeria is not an Islamic country! Why don't you compare Saudi Arabia or even Egypt and Morocco in Africa if you are sincere! The Problems you highlighted is not an Islamic problem but a Political and economic problem! There are Muslims in many states in Nigeria that don't beg! And there are Christians too that are beggars!

God does not enjoy peace? How did you know that? I am not afraid of anything! You can't run away from death! How old was Jesus and John when they died in your Bible? No be people kill them? Why didn't they run from death?

Samson is the Patron of Suicide charged with the Holy Spirit!


Christianity is Satanic religion as Paul defined it that Satan masquerades as Jesus to him!
Hahaha.

Most of your scholars are illiterates. Even your prophet hat said that sperm originates from spinal cord. Allah does not know what he created. grin grin

Begging is the emblem of Islam in Nigeria especially in the north. Well if you say that Saudi or others are better, why are you teaching begging and violence in Nigeria? I guess you are one of the Imams giving Islam a bad name. All Boko Haram, bandits, herdsmen are Muslims. Just go to the front page of Nairaland today. You will see the activities of your brethren. Worst still, they kill more Muslims than kafir. Are Muslims kafirs?
This is the reason you people make me laugh when you defend a faith that kill you shouting, ' Allahu Akbar' grin grin Do you think your brothers - in - arms are giving Allah peace by killing his people?

If Christianity is satanic, do you know how many billions of dollars America is spending in the Middle East, Afghanistan, Iraq, Niger, Sudan.... to keep peace? Have you forgotten how Jonathan established nomadic education rejected by your brothers. Buhari was there, he did nothing to educate your people. The herders believe that rearing cattles on our streets is their heritage and cannot be changed! They cannot adopt modern technology to cattle rearing. What then is illiteracy? Do they know Arabic and Quran and hadiths, yes. Do they know what is obtainable in a civilized world of this time and age? Who will teach them?

I salute the deposed Emir of Kano. He is my man, he lost his throne to campaigning against illiteracy, poverty and religious bigotry (Check his speeches on YouTube). You and your group here are talking against Christianity. What good have you to show us?

Abeg, ọgá go and sit down with your Quran and leave Bible and Christians alone!
Christianity EtcRe: A Country Built On Foundation Of Murder And Injustice Can’t Have PEACE by MightySparrow: 1:06pm On May 15, 2024
AbuTwins:
So there was no darkness when Moses invaded and destroyed on behalf of Yahweh!
So there was no darkness when Joshua invaded and destroyed on behalf of Yahweh!
So there was no darkness when Samson was Holy Spirit empowered to invade and destroy on behalf of Yahweh!
So there was no darkness when Saul invaded and destroyed on behalf of Yahweh!

When did the darkness really started?

Israel is the most violent in Palestine today! No dey spread falsehood!

All these were present in the time of Jesus too. There was lawlessness, poverty, illiteracy (how many of Jesus's disciples is literate?), greed and wickedness.

But Jesus replied, “Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign; but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah. Matthew 12:39

This started from Samson who was empowered with the holy Spirit.

Judges 28-30
Then Samson prayed to the Lord, “Sovereign Lord, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.” Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.


Islam has no world yet as the Islamic world is broken! And there is no terrorism in Islam but there are terrorists everywhere!
Islam covers anywhere it dominates with darkness! Check the records in Nigeria. See the illiterate almajiris as they become foot soldiers for Boko Haram, bandits, herdsmen. Can you mobilize a hardworking, business oriented igbo boy, ikwerre, Birom, Agatu, Eggon boy that are busy with their legitimate business to be killing for their peaceful God or Yoruba boy to be killing people anyhow?


Since the beginning of Islam neither God nor man has enjoyed peace. You are afraid of your neighbour who could blow you up anytime.

As you claim,is it Samson that preached to Mohammed?

Islam is darkness my friend.
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 11:32am On May 15, 2024
Michael547:
I can't say for now until I know him.
Neither will I tell you if you are not ready to serve Him
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 9:52am On May 15, 2024
Michael547:
I want to know him na
if I tell the name of my God will worship Him?
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 8:31am On May 15, 2024
Michael547:
Na your God name I dey ask.
What is your problem with that?
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 8:20am On May 15, 2024
Michael547:
Wetin be the name of the God na
So all these why you have been discussing you don't know the name of your God?
PoliticsRe: Minister Files Suit, Petitions Police Against Plan To Marry Off 100 Orphans by MightySparrow: 7:03am On May 15, 2024
Nothing for the North?
PoliticsRe: Reconstruction Of The Bridge At Odo Ona Kekere, Ibadan (Pictures) by MightySparrow:
Kenmatt:
Please, why is Ibadan called Brown Roof Republic on Nairaland?
The relics of ancient civilization when your your forebears were living in caves and tree tops and thatched houses.
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 12:45am On May 15, 2024
Aemmyjah:
God of mightysparrow Papa
Do as in the days of Jonah, when people were calling on the names of their gods.
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 12:43am On May 15, 2024
Michael547:
😁😁😁na wa oo
The only living God that does not obey the whims and caprices of any Governing Body.

The Unchangeable Lord.
The One who is light and lives in light, not oldness or newness of light.

My God, who works wonders.
AgricultureRe: Check Out This N750,000 Ram by MightySparrow: 7:07pm On May 14, 2024
Ram - adan
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 7:00pm On May 14, 2024
Michael547:
How were they calling on him?
Just shout to Him.grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Hindered God's Prophecy In 2 Kings 3:19? by MightySparrow: 6:26pm On May 14, 2024
Michael547:
Which phone number?
Before phone came people were calling on God.

Your GB taught you that God has a phone number.

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