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Janosky:
1 Timothy 4:16, Joshua 1:6-8, Matthew 24:14 & Hebrews 13:7,17 you labelled "indoctrination" in the Bible of those you term as "others".
Oga, go and ask the "others" to speak up for themselves.

You are deluded to think that those who don't see things the way you see are mere churchgoers. Do you attend shrine?
Are you members not living among us with all form of hypocrisy? You come here to form on a blog.

Who knows what kind of fake life you too are living?
Simply go and sit down and stop typing,'gibberish' on Nairaland.

Janosky:
You saw the screenshots and you are throwing tantrums.

Be bold to confess your love for Atheism rather than pretend you follow Pastorpreneurs.

HYPOCRITE!

I am not an atheist . I believe in God that I relate personally. I am not giving to dogma I read, I think. I read more of the Bible than any other texts and think. I belong to a ministry where studying is encouraged. Wherever a stereotype of ignorance present itself, I move .

Does that look like atheism to you?
Your cup of tea.

Janosky:
JWs adhere to Matthew 24:14, Jesus instruction: Preach.

JWs adhere to Hebrews 13:7,17, be submissive to your leaders.

JWs adhere to Joshua 1:6-8, read, study and practice the holy scriptural tenets.

JWs adhere to 1 Timothy 4:16, Ponder on these instructions that will save you & those who listen to you.


These Atheist are WAILING in this public platform because obedience to the holy scriptures is their "indoctrination & fear of disfellowshipment"

Whereas,they are students of their Atheist mentors they follow upandan on social media (whose works they gulp down hook line and sinker as if they will earn Master's Degree therefrom.). ;

Which passages of the Bible do others adhere to? Or you think they don't read the Bible?

If any of these contestants is declared winner of this election, what will be your reaction?

Janosky:
Truth according to Sparrow:

"Verifiable truth. Truth that is same and constant and ageless and universal"

LYING Sparrow, are you so daft you can't read & understand the Screenshot of Templee333?

Don't qoute people out of context. You mispresent his truth. I cannot understand a doctored truth, an attempt to turn honest post upside down
.
Gibberish.

Janosky:
Your own Bible is not fit for your era.
Shege to Atheism !!!!
These atheists WAILING and throwing tantrums on this forum while living in pretences of teaching Sunday school in Christendom & following Pastorpreneurs upandan.

See liar doctoring post.

The Bible is not fit our era a complete post?

Templee333:
JWs are the real enemies of truth,yet they refer to their organization as "the truth"

Their touted truth is nothing but indoctrination. They fear disfellowshipment more than God. They entangle their mental faculty with sleight s of men. Blindfolded by creed. Basking in delusion and therefrom judging others. Their GB has removed from them reasoning. Only few who can reason free themselves.

MaxInDHouse:
Excellent!
[b]To me only JWs organization is where i found honesty [/b]that's why i left Islam for the group.
Since you've known a more honest person go and worship with him!

Personal Truth, Personal honesty!
To me JWs truth and honesty is not suitable.
It is not acceptable to Temple 333 either. Myself (and many others), a scenarist like Temple 333, by experience,
Self praise and running down others in all ' honesty, community honesty. .

I found truth in pentecostalism: personal and community truth. The unchanging truth since apostles.

Islam holds it's own truth that Antichristian is fighting e - jihad for. The truth you abandoned is Antichristian's cherished and protected perfect truth.



He can kill anyone for it shouting Allahu Akbar.


Truth!
Truth !!
Truth!!!!

MaximumSide' Truth.! JWs truth!!! Community truth!!!! Delusion Truth!!!!!!!!

Templee333:
One doesn't need to "commit" before being removed. The fact is,when it is ur turn to collect, whatever step you take turns out to be a trap. May be it's just his time to start seeing the madnes he's been upholding for decades. That serves him right! poor Morris!

Thanks for your eyes opening exposition as a former jw member. You have now shown us why JWs' truth is under a coloured light. When a GB member seems to question a dogma, he is disfellowshipped.
Disfellowshipment among policy makers!

MaximumSide is always defending a dogma and organization that cover their faults and mock other ministries.

When you talk about the wrong of JWs', they see it as persecution. They are sitting in the seat of an judge, judging others.

Hypocrisy of the highest order.

Abysmal delusion.

MaxInDHouse:
Truth is like traveling to a place you haven't been before so it's the signals in the map that you fully understood is what will continue to guide you whenever you're about to miss the way to your destination.

I'm a person who loves the truth so it's the signs in the map that i'm following to know my destination, that's what made me realize that Islam is not the way to my destination.
So you got it wrong because i'm not your kind, our kind always do whatever it takes to get back on the road to our destination we're not easily distracted by noisy crowds who don't have the same interest!

Hahaha
Indoctrination. Community truth.
Temple 333 is a more honest person. He probed into JWs truth and found it not suitable for his guidance. He ported to another truth. His own personal "New Light'" That he fully understands, a toad map guiding his journey to where he is going.

Your love for the truth does not mean your personal truth is everybody's truth.
Everybody is living by his personal truth. The truth they find and love.


That your personal truth or community truth is
absolute is delusion.

Tó me and some honest people, you are honestly wrong. Living in your community truth. GB varying truth. Truth that forbids verification.


I salute Temple333 for his courage to operate in subjective truth. Verifiable truth. Truth that is same and constant and ageless and universal.

MaxInDHouse:
Truth is just one not two!

If he's a member of an organization and stopped being a member wisdom should help an honest hearted individuals to ask
"what organization does he join afterwards?"

Being a member of an organized group requires being orderly as in sticking to rules guiding members of the organization so when you leave an organized group and can't point to another where you now associate any intelligent person will know that orderliness is what you detests not that the organization is faulty.

So if anyone lives in Nigeria but later left for another country he should be able to present the country he goes if he wants anyone to know what is wrong with Nigeria.

Thanks!

You get it wrapped up Sir.
I said that truth could be gleaned from what happens or what doesn't. Not that truth has two faces or has siblings.

Sun shines during the day, true.
It is 3 O' clock and the Moon is shining bright, in the sky,therefore, is evening. false.

To truly know the truth about JWs, we have to listen to people like you, committed to all the organization without any faults.
Similarly, we have to judge from his experience too.


About his present group.
What does it matter?
He has found this own personal and community truth.

Honesty is relative. Just as truth. Your truth is what you accept to y true, personal Truth.


Once, Islam was your truth, then JWs' truth.
Today' s JWs truth will be overriden by a New Truth ( New Light)

Truth is a dynamic thing, my friend.

What is true is, are his experiences with JWs true?

Give your rebuttals not escapist's way out.


PEACE

Bring back Tuchel

MaxInDHouse:
Six threads against just one organization of peace loving worshipers:

https://www.nairaland.com/7565553/ask-question-jehovahs-witnesses-here

https://www.nairaland.com/7296359/experience-jehovahs-witnesses-organization

https://www.nairaland.com/7256425/maxindhousejanosky-other-jehovahs-witnesses-come

https://www.nairaland.com/7378764/sophia-caleb

https://www.nairaland.com/7252017/jehovahs-witnesses-going-house-house

https://www.nairaland.com/7269205/prepare-septemberthey-coming-like-locusts

yet a question was asked by a sincere Nairalander:




Well if anyone (unbiased) wants to know the truth about JWs i'll implore such a person to:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. Abstain from every form of wickedness! 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22

It's evil listening to those accusing a group of people without asking for what those accused has to say {Exodus 23:2} the OP and his friends are atheists. You can check their profiles to see if any of them has ever put up a single thread to preach or teach anything about faith in God.

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Truth has two sides: what happens and what doesn't. Truth should not be afraid of
verification
This fellow was once a member of your organization.
You will dó well to refute him where he goes wrong than to encourage us not to verify the truth

Ilamina:


Go girl

Our first igbo president

In Biafra,

SmartPolician:
APC and Buhari were the worst things that ever happened to Nigeria. In fact, Buhari was a monumental failure of epic proportions.

They even borrowed to do the projects they claimed they did without clear-cut repayment plans! I hope they didn't sell our sovereignty to China because I am not ready to work in Chinese coalmines now.

I am Obidients for different reasons.
Buhari is the only bad thing that happen to Nigeria. Apart from him, the advancement enjoyed by SW before their amalgamation was envisaged but not realized on national level. However, the good works in Oyo State under Ajimobi, Aregbesola, Ambode, Oshiomole,Zulum, etc cannot be forgotten.
Buhari is representative of APC.


Buhari has spoilt show for others.

MaxInDHouse:
So that his worshipers can't use his word to resolve disparities among themselves {Isaiah 2:2-4} and they have to use weapons against one another slaughter one another in the name of the same Lord shey?
Perhaps they won't pray before going to war like God asked his people to always do before engaging in wars. I believe you will pray to your Lord to support you when going to war against another group who will also pray to your Lord!

May JEHOVAH be praised!

Hahaha! It is for man to pray and God to answer.
To answer is not automatic for either group.
However, He chooses whom to answer. Or do you choose Him? I don't suppose so.


Soldiers don't pray in warfront? They do. God doesn't answer prayers said at warfront. He does!

As a professional soldier, those you called enemies in the warfront are they really your personal enemies? No. When pushed to war, can you pray for personal safety, national victory yes.


This theory that your God chooses who you recommend to answer his / prayers is not biblical. Many people get converted to Christianity not JWs at warfront.



Oh, you don't recognize their conversion, you community choice.
So far they are recognized by Jehovah.
That is all that matters.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus taught his own disciples not to be a part of the world so we are no part of the sides fighting and killing one another {Revelations 6:3-4} we are with the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6


Jesus commanded JWs to make sure that even though we lack clothing we shouldn't lack a full copy of God's word {Luke 22:36} that's the spiritual weapon {Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12} do you think you're fulfilling that command from Jesus? Do all your church members have guns in their possession?
Well Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling it because all of us have our full copy of the Bible in our possession! Psalms 34:10

I don't like chatting with you but you mentioned my name!

Hahaha!
My own Jesus told me to sell my cloak and buy sword. Do you want to rewrite the Bible?

Is any of the GOs a soldier no. Do they want war? We pray against it. Do they alter scriptures? No.


Is the word settled for ever?


Do you live by your community truth by ' New Light ' yes

Our own light is constant
War is real, men fight wars.
That you don't fight doesn't mean you can't be killed.

Albert Einstein propounded the theory and suggestes to Delano Roosevelt on H bomb that ended the WWII. He was a Jew. Otherwise, Hitler would have annihilated Jewish Nation today.


Live in your community truth.
I don't share your beliefs.

The Lord is a man of war, the Lord is His name.
Is that Bible yes.
I laugh in JWs'paradise language.

Aemmyjah:
Do Jehovahs witnesses accept or change
Human rulership? No
Do we respect and obey civil laws? Yes
Do we pay tax? Yes
Do we go to court when charged? Yes

Who's the hypocrite now?

When Jesus Christ was about to be arrested? One of his followers had to react violently by cutting off someone's ear. What did Jesus do? What example did he set for his followers when unjustly treated? Did he commend Peter? He even went as far as healing the ear of that man who was among those to arrest Jesus.

Jehovahs witnesses have no record of violence and we don't go to war. We beat our swords into plowshares and our spears into pruning... See what politics has caused in our world. See how it promoted tribalism against us. See the war against Russia and Ukraine.

People in your church are not even united in their choice of leadership but we all are behind our Leader, Jesus Christ
You are part of the world who look up to human government, we are no part of the world
Even if your GO endorse any candidate even if na your church member, not up to 60% will vote him cos they don't trust him and your GO on the choice of leadership
The highlights of churches convention on social media is how one politician visit their church. Many have tagged him as Messiah and given him their OBEDIENCE
So carry your hypocrisy to your own church

Yes, Max would have killed me when he WAS in the army and then he was ignorant of God and his worship. Would Max kill me now? Yet your fellow church people will kill each other in the name of patriotism and ethnicity

Between Russian government and Ukrainian government, which one is God's arm of sovereignty ? If really it is, let God decide who rules his people
Go and tell your people that criticize the present government that they are against God
Atleast, though we don't vote any guvernment, we respect them pass una wey vote them

Both: people go to eat for many reasons. Majorly for pride not ethnicity. What they would not allow reason to settle, they go to battle, then come back to round table to settle.
Politicians'are human beings. Jesus visited, prayed for sick daughter of a ruler, sent Peter to centurion even after ascension, an army general.

So, God was actually involved in wars, called, ' The Man of War' and will still at Armageddon. How many nations now have destroyed their armoury?
Continue to deceive yourself by your community truth.

Beating spears to ploughshares is in the prophetic future. MaximumSide can testify to it that nations now have more weapons than fifty years ago and are researching for more lethal ones.
Can you stop them? Never.

Ukraine sheepishly destroyed her nuclear weapons now being threatened by same.

Did Jesus ask Peter to throw away his sword? Never! Rather, He asked us to sell our cloakes to buy one! Are you more righteous than Jesus? I don't think so.

I am laughing in JWs' paradise language.

BClassic2000:
Check your WhatsApp sir

Ok

Vado2:
I never said that they are amicable. In my perspective, the Ibos are inherently self-centered and selfish. They are not hypocrites; they can only put their best foot forward for profit. The Ibo candidate is not being marketed as a tribal candidate like the Yoruba candidate is. Talk about the Edo people if you want to discuss a detrabalized tribe. Only in Yoruba area will a trader become enraged with you because you are speaking pidgin; she doesn't care if you aren't speaking Yoruba as long as she can lose that transaction. This is a unique personal experience. Only in Yoruba territory do people refer to you as "Omo Ibo," even if you are not Ibo.

OBJ is a detribalized leader, that’s the reason a large number of Yorubas don’t like him. Just the way the North likes their leaders hardcore Muslims, the Yorubas like their leaders hardcore tribalist.

Well , I am yoruba, and proudly one. Your observations are right and your opinion too. That you are called ọmọ ibo may not actually mean being If yorubas are tribalistic. Among ourselves, we still call ourselves names.
If you limit yourself to Lagos where most of you live or visit, you know so little about yoruba. Oyo will call Ekiti names, Ekiti Will dó same to Ondo. Come and think of it even in churches, you see ministries like MEM, RCCG, WINNERS, DEEPER LIFE, CAC rtc, cutting across with no tribal leanings. You are qualified for any position, you are given.

I still maintain that yoruba has a liberal heart more than any tribe in Nigeria. This I have seen by the nature of my job.
No one would allow you to be cheated for being a none indigene. Are there not people today in Yorubaland, other tribes enjoying same rights like indigenes?

If there are traces of tribalism now others taught us.
There are likes or Profs. Kenneth Dike, Tamuna, Vice Chancellors of University of Ibadan and many others. Same obtainable in any Igboland? I don't know.
An army official of yoruba extraction who believed in Biafra and risked his career and life was gruesomely killed by Ojukwu himself. His sin? Believe in a cause across his tribal divide!

Awolowo for three day persuading Zik for inclusion of session clause, he changed his mind overnight and followed Hausa - Fulani. Today, Igbos read and tell wrong history and call Yorubas traitors. Yorubas still believe Igboman cannot be trusted.
My brother if you are in Yorubaland feel free and live your dream. If you are not come over and fulfill your dreams.

Even me, as modest as I want to be will still not condone anybody calling Lagos or any part of Yorubaland as no man's land. To such, no Yoruba man will take kindly. This vulgar talk instigate 'Area boys' backed by offended decent minds to resist atimes.

To most Yorubas OBJ is not a leader. He can have Nigeria' s acceptably, he does not have our own. He doesn't share our philosophy. He betrayed General Olufemi, for asking him not to be cringing for Hausa - Fulani. The man was dismissed from the army.
Our likes are Black Scorpion, Idiagbon, Gani Fawehinmi, Fela Anikulapo Kuti, F'ẹmi Fálànà, Sunday Igboho, Gani Adams, Wole Soyinka, Banji Akintoye, Ayo Adebanjo,(now campaigning at his great age, for Igbó presidency, while Igbos are killing themselves) etc. None of these people accept OBJ' s philosophy. He is good to be a chaotic Nigeria leader not yoruba of Awolowo' s legacy or our dreams. He destroyed our structure. We don't like him for that.


If you call latter tribalism, well let be.
Cheers!

Workch:
Yoruba use to do Oju aye. That's the most dangerous serpentine attribute

Good

This OP is not realistic at all. I want to think otherwise. Yorubas are more accommodating than Igbos.
Akabueze became commissioner in Lagos state one other fwllow House of Representatives. How many can boast of same treatment in any SE states? In our markets, you hardly can see Igbos traders employing other tribes rather would go to his village.
The kind of large heart government ran by OBJ cannot be from any Igbo leader.



Stupid people Lagos has been ahead other places in Nigeria before almagamation. It was a meeting place between local and Portuguese trades who gave the place Lagos. It was the seat of government during colonial era.
That Igbo build Lagos is a stupid assertion.
Why can't they build their own lands? A curse?

Igbos are intrinsically selfish that apart from gain's they make in the host communities nothing more you can gain.


To add salt to injury, they begin to abuse their hosts. Ingrate people.


They want what they cannot offer. How many people go to Igbo land for greener pastures?
Who wouldn't build in Igbo land if they are that friendly?

The OP is simply an idiot.

Which one concern Ṣeun there?

Aemmyjah:
'Whoever is on the side of the TRUTH will listen to my voice and follow me'

Jesus and his disciples did not bother about the government of their time even though the jews were under oppression by the Roman empire. He rejected rulership from Satan. He hid himself when the jews wanted to make him king
He avoid taking political sides when he was tested
Secular history from Rome tells us that the first century Christians did and would not partake in any political or military activities but would rather die cos they were no part of the world.
Keep dealing with your problems sir
The funniest part is that Nigeria is the most divided in this period more than ever as politics as contributed to tribalism

Hypocrisy at the highest level.
Did Jesus come for rulership? No.
Did He have respect and obey civil laws? Yes. He paid tax, when called to court of men, he didn't refuse.
In his time there was no records of wars..
Would he have disregarded Romans 13 about leaders and how to control chaos by killing anyone who merit it? I didn't think so. (Even if you, yes you, commit any offence that makes it possible for MaximumSide to shoot you in a firing squad, when he was in the military, you would just have died for your sin. He would not be guilty of killing you) Governments are an arm of God to control. You don't read Bible?

Where on earth is theocracy being practiced today?

Your opinion is your community truth Sir!
Keep it to yourself.

Aemmyjah:
Chai
Have you seen how you lied against innocent people?
Apology unaccepted

You asked a question you don't know and you answer it
Lemme tell you that your answer is ABSOLUTELY incorrect

Every organization has a governing body whether social, political, commercial, religious,etc.
The priests acted as governing body in ancient Israel
In the first st century, the apostles and older men were the governing body as they directed the organization

Which one of them is hypocrisy?

Your organization has a governing body. So a nation should not have?

Aemmyjah:

I laugh this guy in Swahili
Is that fact or speculation?

Drop proof from a reliable source and prove the devil a liar

..
Sorry he wasn't.
. However. Is God against any government cum GB?

Why do you have Governing Body or Board.


Is this not hypocrisy?

Aemmyjah:
Which political party is your GO now supporting?
Abeg remind us

OR you wan tell me say una still de show loyalty to God and reject partisan politics?

Both, Roman 13

MaxInDHouse:
I think this guy (Golden456) wants to answer you so forget about me and direct all your questions to him.

Good luck!

Let me learn from both of you na.
Abi?

Golden456:
A simple question: with, with what did God create Jesus?

It was similarly said that Lucifer was created Witten stones. Original creation also. Ezekiel 28: 13,14. it is true that the bible metion what precious stones that was use to create lucifer but the bible does not tell us if Jesus christ was still created with precious stones. All what i know is that it was written in the bible that Jesus christ was created by Jehovah.

Are you very sure or speculating?

MaxInDHouse:
I don't like wasting my precious time with faithless ones but if you think you have faith then go and ask Papa Canaanland Otta is open to you any time!

What is faith?
Papa teaches Faith.
His 'church' is called Living Faith Church.

How do arrive at my being ' faithless'.


Your Community Faith?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and learn from Papa!

Haha, simple question?

Why are always dodging my questions?