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OLAADEGBU:
"Col. 1:15, 'firstborn of all creation' " See how Jehovah's Witnesses interpret the word "firstborn" here to mean "first-created" because it is consistent with their theological presupposition that Jesus is a created thing at http://ow.ly/TGQl50JSeGx

I don't agree with that either.
It is done in a bad light.

Soon a ' New Light' will set aside.

I've seen certified scholar's like Carl oloff Jonnsonn, James Penton, Doug Mason and Edmund Gruss and a whole lot of others refuting certain WT dogma's with sound scholarly arguments.
This cam.org or should I call it scam.org are just a group of hungry blogger's seeking attention, I bet none of them ever attended divinity college or studied New Testament Theology
Which day will you post about deeper life telling Women not to wear trousers?

My brother ' Nobody' you are there joor.
All the simpletons taking everything line hook, and sinker. The day I stumbled on Carl Olof Johnson, I was studying A book on exposition on Prophecy of Daniel. Armed with world history texts, Islamic Eschatology even science views about the fate of the earth. I became curious when I began to see discrepancies in historical records and JWs write - ups. I began to probe further. It was then that some of their own members in high places disagree with them.


You don't mind MaximumSide, my friend who is passionate in defending WT.

Nobody, you are my man.

MaxInDHouse:
When God said a child will be born to redeem mankind and finally crush Satan {Genesis 3:15} all those informed about this prophecy kept anticipating the coming of this child so by the time God called Abraham and told him that it's through Abraham's descendants that all the nations of the earth will be blessed {Genesis 12:3} Abraham was willing to make any sacrifice even loosing all his businesses just to follow this God to wherever He will lead him.
After Abraham had Ishmael and God repeated the same promise Abraham told God "thank you, for i now have Ishmael" but God told him

"NO! He is not the one chosen to bring forth the promised Messiah, though i will also make him great because he's your son but my promise will be fulfilled through the son your legally married wife (Sarah) will born" Genesis 17:18-21

So the promised Messiah (Christ) will come through the lineage of Isaac Abraham's second son and that's exactly what happened! Matthew 1:1-16

A lot happened prior to and after the birth of Jesus of Nazareth so let's pick these events one after the other.

To be continued....

Following your community truth brother.
Michael is the only original creation of God.
Others are secondary.


A simple question: with, with what did God create Jesus?

It was similarly said that Lucifer was created Witten stones. Original creation also. Ezekiel 28: 13,14.

BossGerald:
Enough of this silly argument with you...just face your sw region.

And pls keep the yoruba Christians out of your madness

Gunmen have attacked the campaign convoy of the Peoples Democratic Party candidate for Enugu North/South Federal Constituency, Oforchukwu Egbo, on Wednesday, 22nd February 2023, IGBERETV reports.

The incident happened at Eke-Otu in Amechi Awkunanaw, Enugu South Local Government Area of the state. Driver of one of the buses in the convoy was killed during the attack. It was gathered that his body was burnt with the vehicle.

In the evening of the same day, Labour Party senatorial candidate for Enugu East senatorial district, Mr Oyibo Chukwu, was attacked and killed by gunmen along with five of his supporters in Amechi.

https://igberetvnews.com/1439457/gunmen-attack-pdp-house-reps-candidate-kill-driver-enugu/
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Is this a proof of education?

BossGerald:
You're simply ill informed, your yoruba Muslim controlled media is taking a toll on your mindset.

Stop believing every trash they show you, it's for your own good.

Anambra state is 1st in waec and neco, 2nd in jamb after lagos.

Anambra state has the highest cut off mark for unity school in the whole Nigeria at 139...make your research.

And you say Anambra state is not educated

You miss the point my brother. Leading in WAEC is not the issue, especially in this corrupt era.
You people believe Northerners are foolish, yet they are ruling. Your people build best schools, hospitals, businesses and still not recognized. Yoruba are foolish, yet provides home for all to express themselves. You whine to high heavens, yet the place is peaceful. When did they start agitation? Now they have recognition in United Nations.
About 70% of Legal luminaries are from Yorubaland. What would be handled by brute force are taken to court.

That aside, what is the rationale behind killing or Dr. Akunyili?

I wish a time of Nigeria's distintegration. Lẹt SE, Bini, and Warri form a nation. The country is going to be the worst in Africa.

That is funny.

BossGerald:
Anambra lack education?? Are you joking??

Yes, though being ruled by a Professor. I learned that your people there brag about how much they spend on Court case against themselves rather than philanthropic works. Is that the way of Dangote, MKO, Bill Gate.

On Saturday we are afraid of how many youths you will sacrifice by military bullets.
The wanton destruction and killing of your own sons and daughters is something else!


May be they went to wrong schools.

BossGerald:
Situational report.


This is the early morning pictures from my hood in Obosi Anambra state.

We don't know anything sit at home, people are going about their business, commercial drivers etc.

@Anambra1st son, we need your Situation report from Awka, the capital city of Anambra state.

When you don't know how daring an average igbo man is, you start to overrate yourself...I've never seen people so difficult to control like my igbo brothers, bini and warri.

Make Saturday come fast abeg.

It is not a thing of pride my brother.

Your brothers lack education and are not civil at all, Why are are the law abiding outside their domain? In your Biafra, you throw civility into the wind, you will not experience any developments as desired. The potential is there but no character to make it work No Nigerian protection to make you sell anywhere else. People will like to align with likes of China and South Korea for imports.
Truth is always bitter.

Kobojunkie:
No one gets saved by opening his mouth to say "Jesus is Lord" , not even if he repeats it all of the days of his life. Same way, no one gets saved by saying prayers from even the day of his birth until the day of his death --- it will never happened. Salvation begins as Jesus Christ taught and continues as He also taught. There is no other way to be saved.

Note the bolded:
Your contribution has helped no one.
What exactly are these teachings? Itemize them. Thanks

hbk001:
Perhaps you're right. But I once stayed for about three days and nights in a mosque in Zaria when I was stranded there some years back. Not all places up North are bad, or all Northerners evil.

Did they know you were an " infidel"?

Rented Igbos. Check their cheeks to see if their tribal marks resemble OBJ's

Dunionk30:
Thanks so Much for your Words sir...Profoundly on Course Now

Ok Sir, I will like to follow up. I am excited to see people enlisted in His army.
Thanks

Dunionk30:
Well i was among the List of Evangelist that were Sent out to Preach in Buses ,Houses in those days.
Later we were sents to Ghana for Evangelism,The first Crusade was Held at the Kaneshie stadium then ,The likes of Mr. Kayode Falarungbon,Mr.Obanla ,Mr.Sam Ajonibode alias Shout Halleluyah anyhow RIP were among the list then.

Later i Left the Work of God because of My desire to Find Work ,Make Money ,Acquire Things of Life ...cars ,Houses etc .
I said Doing Gods Work full Time without other Work is Rubbish.

Absolutely i must Confess there is no Business ,Work i do that works out ..
Till now as i type ,Where others that areLess qualified gets with ease,I'm Rejected.
I had Golden Opportunity to Travel to Germany we were 4 in Numbers at the Germany Embassy in Lagos ( Walter Carrington),I was the only one Rejected for visa .

Another one came up at the Bulgarian Embassy in Abuja for Schengen Visa ,Out of 6 applicants ,I was the only one Rejected Visa .

A Friend of mine in Stutggart Germany sent me 5k Euros about some Years back ,I invested it on a Trading Business .The Business Crashed .

One day i was at a Bustop ,I stepped into a Spiritual shop to buy A Bell and a New Bible for Prayer ,after Paying ,The Woman in the shop called me back and said Oga ..I should not be annoyed oo..

She said as i was buying the Bible she saw me in a clear vision in a very very big Church Preaching Gods Word ,Carrying a very big Cross,She said ,She saw me Making lots of people Problems Solved through the Holy Spirit.

She said why have i Chosen to suffer rather than working in the House of God and See all the good things of life i desire come to me with ease.

She now asked me if i ever worked in a Church before i said Yes,she said but i ran away .I was surprised how she knows.

Last year ,Someone told me about one Prophet Kingsley at Orile Iganmu ,because I was suffering ,Sold some Properties i had ,Could not feed myself and my Children ,Could not pay their School fees .

I just Put a call to the Prophet after two months i was told about him .Infact the first thing he told me is that Mr.Man ..If i fail to find a house of God to Join and starts Gods work Full time ,He can see Death ...He said i should just forget about any work .That it is my destiny and he wont lie to me.

He said many Men of God have warned me but i was Adamant .
When i heard about the Death of T.B.Joshua ,Severally i saw this Man in My Dream telling me why have i not gone to meet his wife Evelyn to get back to work.

I made an effort to get accross to another Colleague of mine now a Pastor too in Abuja ,His name is " WISE MAN DANIEL" i could not reach him till now.

I Visited the Synagogue last year but i saw a diffrent Protocols To attend Service i must get a Pass ,Etc ...one of the Old Security Personel called "IBADAN" Identifies me .


I was doing a General Cleaning just a Week afterT.B.Joshua Death,I saw a Phone Number of my former Colleague at the Synagogue called Apostle" JOHN CHRIS " who has his own Ministry now ,I called the number ,Someone i have seen for more than 13 Years,To.my Surprise this Man of God said ,Its been sooo Long he had used the number and infact he just reactivate the number and just inserting the sim in his phone and i'm d first person calling .

He was shocked that this is strange ,I was shocked ,This man of God Commanded me to go straight away to meet Late Prophet T.B.JOSHUA wife Mrs .Evelyn Joshua ,He told me he went to pay his Condolence Visit to Her he told me to get back to Church Work again .

I'm a great Preacher of the word with amazing Talents ,What Happened to me now ,Apostle JOHN CHRIS SAID .

..I was Invited by a Man of God in Ogun state who heard me Preached in a Bus.

I Visited His Church ,The Members Asked the pastor to Make sure he invites me to come often.

Children of God ,Men of God ,Pastors ,Prophets of God .
The Protocols to meet Late Prophet T.B Joshua Wife to get back to work of God is Not easy ...I want to fully get back to Gods work...I need a Man of God who has a Ministry to Work with Fully .

I have decided to get back to Gods Work Fully .

That is My story ...
I'm not a Member of any Church for now .
PLEASE THIS A LESSON TO ANYONE WITH WITH CLEAR CALLING TO HEED TO IT .

I FELTS FULL TIME WORK.IN GODS HOUSE IS FOR THE LAZY ONES.

Zero nine zero six seven six zero seven eight three one is My Contact.

M

The gift and calling of God is without repentance.


Go back to His work or suffer more than you can handle.
The work or God is the most rewarding thing you can do.

All your certificates lose value at death, all accumulated wealth also, but, God' rewards last generations.
Go as directed by God and His servants.
Seeing you on top soon.

Angelfrost:
Well, Dortmund doesn't have history on their side!

Chelsea might yet prevail!

Wait... How is Agbero FC my beloved club?!!!

Dortmund wasn't spectacular last week. They can lie eliminated by by Chelsea

oluwasunkanmi97:
Yes, Chelsea beat a Madrid that was out of form and filled with multiple injuries. It is not the same Madrid.

Tuchel factor overlooked Sir. If not for Mendy's mistake Chelsea would have beaten them home and away again last year.

Liverpool under klopp can never beat Madrid.

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Very kind of the mosque users for not killing the infidels. Very kind of Mr Peter for building a befitting mosque for the Muslims.



However, don't make mistake of sending your children to Kaduna or some northern Nigeria, they see you as infidels and will deal with you accordingly.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and watch again and again and again we only refer to ex-jws as Apostates not nonejws.

Ok

MaxInDHouse:
I may ignore you and your questions but when you err about our beliefs i will correct you!

The person you're responding to knows the truth that we don't call anyone who has not been a JW "Apostates"
For instance you are an unbeliever to me that's why i often answer you differently but after discovering that you're just out to create tension i decided to let you be.
So you're not an Apostate until you get baptized as one of JWs and turn back that's when you can rightly be called "APOSTATE"

I will watch again the video where Stephen Lett called people apostates.

oteneaaron:
Lol

That is his Modus Operandi.

Worse case, he would start raining insults on you.

You see am so?
If you are different from their dogma you are an apostate.

They sit in the seat of a judge.

MaxInDHouse:
Ever since i've injected him with the truth he's been running after me asking if i will accept him as my fellow believer but after he left the forum for some time he returned only to resume his criticism claiming he is pentecostal.
OK "go and hold onto your pentecostal" mba o!
It's JWs that must agree with him even though he couldn't present any pentecostal before his friends for approval because they will reject all gatherings of faithful people but he wants JWs to accept him as our fellow believer.
So since i said "NO" he is bitter calling me vile names yet shouting "PEACE"

Hahaha
Before I took a break we were having a debate in which you backed out.
I am not your brother. I have been reading your books and write - ups for long, possibly before you joined JWs. I am not concerned by your truth.
When you converted from Islam, you saw a better truth than what you held as a Muslim. You accepted it as your new light which to me is darkness.
I haven't changed my perception of JWs in knowledge and character.
Continue to bask in your community truth!

Is that why you refuse to answer my questions?
I am a pentecostal, proudly one.
He dey pain you ní?

Janosky:
Leviticus 5:6-7
" And he shall bring his trespass-offering unto Jehovah, a ram without blemish out of the flock, according to thy estimation, for a trespass-offering, unto the priest: 7 and the priest shall make atonement for him before Jehovah; and he shall be forgiven concerning whatsoever he doeth so as to be guilty thereby."

Oga, you confirmed "new lights" is your problem.
Go & practice Leviticus 5:6-7 to atone for your sins, rather than the new lights God revealed in the new testament.

Mumu WAILER throwing tantrums

What question does this answer?
I am not still convinced you are not a potato.

[quote author=Janosky post=121083963][/quote]Good.
1. Have you now correctly determined the time's?
2. What historical tools you used to determine the time of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar?
3. What correlation hàs the Nebuchadnezzar punishment with 1914?

Make your points clear please

TenQ:
You mean well but I think you may need to rephrase your headline

God does not NEED ANYTHING from His Creations. We are the ones who NEED Redemption from our Sin.



I think the topic should be:
Why did God Establish a Pure Sacrifice for Redemption from Sin


1. The sacrifice of animals is inferior to the value of man's life
2. Since all humans are in a fallen state, it is impossible for any man to be a sacrifice even for himself not to speak of others
3. Because of God's love, He prepared His own "Sacrificial LAMB", Perfect, Pure, Divine and Human ALL at the same time

WHY?
1. Violation to the Integrity of God (Sin) is EXTREMELY Serious and thus with no exception MUST be punished with a perpetual disconnection from God (second death).
2. God's LOVE for man made Him arrange a means to free man from the CONSEQUENCE of his Sin without Violating God's Integrity. Thus freedom for man come at an Infinite COST which of course he cannot finish paying (man's punishment should be perpetual)
3. Only an Infinite VALUE of Life can ATONE for the sin of man which is found only in God HIMSELF as the Christ. For no creature is allowed to get away with Violation of God's Integrity
4. The Life of God Himself as Christ thus become an Offering for Sin. The punishment is served in Full
5. He who hides in the Banner of Christ benefit from the Sacrifice and thus reckoned by God as BORN AGAIN, not of flesh and Blood, but of God's Spirit. These are the Children of God, saved by Grace.


Eph 2:8-9:
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

Thanks Bro!

Oh, my brother.
I thought you are a Muslim.
The likes of Antichristian can make one angry beyond measure.

I appreciate your exposition and correction.
Thanks a lot.

TenQ:
Is there ANYWHERE where the Father mentioned a NEED for a Son?

Secondly,

Is there ANYWHERE where the Father mentioned a NEED for a Son for REDEMPTION of Mankind?

You are a Muslim, you don't have a part in our covenant.

[11]And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
[12]That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
Mark 4:11-12

Be preparing for your Al - Jaanah and enjoy your houris.

AntiChristian:
They are Muslims by submission!

Don't be a mumu!

They prayed facing Mecca.
They knacked their heads on the the ground.
They killed for Allah.

You said they submitted to Allah through Mohammed.
(Anyone who submits only to the supreme God and obeys Him (through the Prophet He sent) is a Muslim)



You are a potato.