₦airaland Forum

darknez:
Actually, it's enough to show that your argument is fallacious, hjence invalid.

..You are just sentimental about issues. I wouldn't blame you. Religion Sims a terrible thing casting a veil on the face of a wise person. Going through some portion of Quran, just to know the philosophy behind killings, O discovered that Islam is more of of a curse to humanity than blessing.

darknez:
Three things:

1) Your conclusion is a classic case of the fallacy of hasty generalisation. It's inappropriate to apply your limited case to every Muslim.

2) You presume that I am a Muslim. That's a bit of a stretch. I didn't say I am one.

3) I lost a family member to Bokoharam but that still does not make me think every Muslim is like them, nor does it convince me that Islam is about terrorism.

I am entitled to my opinion drawn from history and experience. Whilst you are not in position to verify my experience but have attessted to the fact that you lost a dear one to Boko Haram, the foot soldiers of Islamic force of Nigeria. You have not refuted the fact that the subjugation of the northern Nigeria through Islamic jihadist campaign in which many families destroyed, towns sacked, tribes destabilized or wiped out. Definitely these bloody campaign were not carried out by innocent traditional worshippers or Christians but blood maniac, Mohammedians. True be told take Islam out of the world today, peace will reign. The peace problems of the world today is majorly caused by Islam. Since WW2 no known European nations have had many wars like Islamic nations who cannot manage peace among themselves. Friend, Islam has problem of peace and should not talk of it as a religion of peace.

darknez:
You all are still revolving around the same argument. See below:

Argument A:

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Mr Ismail is a Muslim,
Mr Ismail uses the name of Allah to foster terrorism,
Hence, all Muslims are terrorist.

Argument B:

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Mr Tunde is a Muslim,
Mr Tunde uses the name of Islam to foster peace,
Therefore, all Muslims are peace loving.

Argument C:

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Mr Dave is a white man
Mr Dave pushes the KKK agenda through violence
Therefore all white men are violent KKK members.

All the argument above are fallacious and as such, they are not valid. Similarly your argum 00S sents are also fallacious and invalid.

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A and B are factually correct. If you're tunde a Muslim or Ismail a Muslim and my neighbour, I may not sleep with my eyes closed. This my experience here in the northern Nigeria. The double tongue Muslims preaching peace on one hand doing jihad in another is a shouting at testimony. Might be you are a Yoruba Muslim not out of your domain yet. You can theorize. With me once a victim of Islamic violence, no coloured words can say erase experience. Truth be told old Islam is not from a merciful God because their adherents are intrinsically merciless

darknez:
Well Islam is not the only religion that thrived in the early stages through wars. There is a marked difference between killing when one is at war and killing at a time that can be described as 'peaceful'.

However, from the available records the major first battle fought by Muslims was not started by them. They simply responded to the aggressor. Find time to read about it.

Who started Jihad in Nigeria? Christians or traditional worshippers? The AL -- Shabab, Al - Qaeda, Tuareg Fighters, Sunnis and Shii's lifelong bloody beginning and ongoing battles. Christians, Hindus Buddhists started them?
If you're a true Muslim you know that you are still expecting Alfa Mahdi. A warlord, your own form of Messiah to rule the world by conquest. So?

This is the curse of polygamy on humanity. Mohammad exhumed old rivalry with a new religion and fabricated stories to form a parallel doctrines. The end will be Ishmaelites versus Israelites at the battle of Armageddon. Then the truth will ultimately be revealed. Innocence of Muslims

I can't waste my mb on that. They are simply identical twins.

darknez:
You really have a lot to say for someone asking a question, and where did you get the notion that Islam is all about killing?

It was started by killing spread by killing, so much killing going on in Islam dominated places of the world. One would think the Middle East is the devil's headquarters. What more?

So He cllaimed. That makes Him a class of His own.

mekaboy:
First dog and baboons soaked in blood. Then hyenas and jackals leaving the kingdom. Today it's rats in the presidents office.

Agreed which animal is your tribe in the zoo?

When I checked the name I was not disappointed.

Passion is the soul of an action. Without it an act is tasteless.

If the policy is good why not? An enemies tactic is good not the enemy himself. Mind you in politics no permanent friend or foe I won't be surprised if Fayose becomes Buhari's campaign manager tomorrow.

Coffins are doorways to other worlds.

Et te Igala? Is Igala also among Biafra?

malvisguy212:
hey, long time bro, good to see you........to your post, what about Jews, are there Muslims than Jews in Israel ?

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Roman 2: 27- 28

that is black man for you. Oyinbo would put in a museum to generate some income.

ThisTrend:
3 Nigerian nationals and a Vietnamese have been arrested in Phnom Penh for residing in the country illegally and running online scams. They are: Maduabuchukwu Ajaere, Nwabueze Daniel, Nwabueze Odiwomma and Dang Thi Tien.

They have been sent to the immigration department for processing.

More updates soon....

Source: http://www.wobegist.com/2017/08/3-nigerians-illegally-residing-in.html

Why reports of biafrans coming from abroad are mostly of crimes? Is destroying our image part of IPOB plan for cesession?

Let's hear some Muslim or traditionalist's version. Those who didn't see Jesus or heaven or hell.

paxonel:
Pastors are good at quoting Malachi 3:10 a lot when they want to distort innocent and ignorant church members. Beware of your pastor irrespective of his large church.
Please note that prophet Malachi was a prophet in old testament therefore, he was an inferior prophet to us who are christians.(Luke 7:28)
He should therefore not be used to detect how Christians should live their lives in this modern day.

Devil's philosophy . Get knowledge. I am God and change not.

Matthew, Mark., and Luke recorded historical facts and his earthly ministry. Luke was. not among the Apostles but a believer, who like Paul may have been converted after Ithe accession of Jesus.

1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, 2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word; 3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, 4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed. Luke 1: 1-5.
John was closer to Jesus than any of the Apostles and hence wrote more about His divinity than others John 1, 16,17. Reactions also testify to this in the were - up about happenings in heaven and the earth.

Beautiful girl, beautiful drawings.

Someone please explain this verse

For he that is dead is freed from sin. Roman 6:7

I stumbled on this letter on my facebook and Idecide to share with nairakndees especially those who may not have seen read it before.
I posted it verbatim.

AWOLOWO SPEAKS
*** Please read the letter below, by Chief Awolowo requesting for an education loan from Chief Timothy Adeola Odutola on March 25, 1943 , (the richest Ijebu man in those days) and promised to pay back by 1955. It is fascinating, long and interesting. ****





~ LETTER:

Dear Mr. Odutola,

I think it will be an exceeding saving of time and more business-like if I avoid all sweet preliminaries and go straight into the object of this letter and say that I am writing to ask you to be good enough to lend me a sum of £1,400 (One thousand and four hundred pounds) free of interest for twelve years.

It is a staggering figure! More staggering indeed does it become, when it is realized that I, who am asking for this loan, have nothing in all the world to give as a security for this money, excepting my good faith and my brains which again are of value only so long as I continue to breathe the breath of life!

Nevertheless, I here proceed to outline in brief why i want this big loan from you. And I hope you will be kind enough to sacrifice some time to go through what I have to say, even though, in the end you might find yourself unable to do me this grand favour.

One great ambition of mine since my boyhood days is to be a lawyer, a politician and a journalist, rolled into one. I cherish politics and journalism as a career, and I desire advocacy as a means of livelihood. For you will agree with me that a politician or journalist who has no money with which to support himself and family comfortably, is like a blade which has no razor.

Now, at one time, I was on the verge of making enough money with which I could proceed to England in order to pursue the object of my ambition; but I suffered a twist in my fortune, and I crashed. Ever since, I have tried without success to recover lost grounds, financially. But spiritually and intellectually, I have made appreciable advance in spite of towering difficulties, all of which have now been surmounted.

As you are aware, I have just passed the intermediate Bachelor of Commerce Examination. Next year, I am taking the final B.Com. Having a degree is not my goal; I hate to be a government or mercantile employee. Otherwise, there are opportunities for me here and there to get a suitable and well paid job under government or one of the mercantile houses. As you know, however, once I become an employee of government or a mercantile establishment that is the end to my career as a politician and journalist. I have therefore resolved that under no circumstances will I take up such employment.

That is just by the way. I am now thirty-four years of age. After careful thought, I have come to the conclusion that if I could raise a loan free of interest sufficient to cover expenses, I should go to England, this year and within three years, I should qualify as a Barrister –at –law, and also obtain with Honours the LL.B Degree of London University. In addition this degrees apart from giving me good backing as a solicitor and Advocate will help me immensely as a politician and journalist.

But where on earth could i get the money? Who in Nigeria today could give £1,400 free of interest to help his fellow-man? J. Henry Doherty, Esq., of illustrious memory who did the like to many successful Nigerians is no more. But after meticulous, shifting and weighing, I hit upon you.

I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind that out of the bounty with which providence blesses your grit and efforts as a businessman, you can well easily afford to advance such a sum of money. I have no doubt too that as a young and progressive man you will be quite happy to give the money for the pursuit of the project for which I desire it.

But then, could you take this risk?

That is the question. As I have said before, I have no security for this loan. Moreover, I want it free of interest. So that you stand to gain absolutely NOTHING in the whole transaction, except the satisfaction that by helping me to achieve my ambition you are indirectly or even directly helping Nigeria or even Africa.

This risk becomes greater when it is borne in mind that I might die in the course of my studies or immediately after, so that, since I have no security or surety, you stand the chance of losing not only the money but also the satisfaction which you may cherish that you are contributing to the uplift of Africa. It is indeed a great risk; the greatest any man ever embarks upon.

But, this is a big BUT, if I live, as I have no doubt I will do, you will not only get your money back in full, but you will, to the end of your days, have cause to rejoice that you have done one of the most outstanding and most philanthropic acts any human being ever does. Among other things, I shall make excellent use of the money while in England by breaking records in my examination. On my return to Nigeria, I shall strive to be one of the foremost advocates, politicians and writers in West Africa, and while I do all these, I shall make it a point not only to pay your money back in full, but also to repay your kindness and generosity towards me in every way I can.

All the same, it is a big risk! So, Sir, I like you to think seriously about it, and see if you can take it in the interest of a young man who has brain, industry and determination to back his ambition, but lacks the money. I know we have never been close friends, but I have a shrewd idea that you may take the risk and help me.

On this assumption, therefore, I proceed to the next and last stage of this letter.

I shall not require the whole £1,400 in a lump sum. To start with, you will help me pay a sum of £208-13s-3d to the Inner Temple. I have already received an application form from this Inn of Court; and from the details forwarded, I gather that the sum of £208-13s-3d will cover all the cost of training as a barrister, examination fees excluded.

When I am ready to sail, you will advance me a sum of £100 to cover passage, provision for my family and any other incidental expenses (NOTE: If I got torpedoed on the way, you would certainly lose this £100 but you will recover the £208-13s-3d).

At the same time you will remit to a London Bank the sum of £491-6s-9d. It is out of this amount that I shall pay the university fees for LL.B course and for special courses in political science and journalism, when I land in England. This is to say, the initial advance will total £800.

At the end of the first year, provided I make satisfactory progress in my studies, you will give instruction to the bank to honour all cheques from me drawn on this account. There will be an arrangement to be signed by me on my return.

On my return, I shall require TWO years within which to establish a solid practice and build a good reputation. After these two years, I should commence to pay at least £200 per annum either in monthly, quarterly or annual payments. So that in seven years after the first two years, I should pay back the whole sum of £1,400. That will be TWELVE YEARS from the time you help me to pay this in April or so this year, then I should be due to pay the whole of £1,400 by April 1955.

Now, as you yourself will see, this is the farthest limit within which I can pay the money. It may be possible for me to pay the money within THREE to FIVE years of my return. As a matter of fact, the sooner I pay it off, the better. But it is much better to be on the safe side in a matter like this. It is no making promises now which will be difficult to fulfil in future. On the contrary it is better to mention a period of twelve years and pay within SIX or EIGHT years than to mention FIVE YEARS and fail to pay within TEN years. Personally, I prefer that I should fail to get the loan under theses unattractive but sure conditions, rather than succeed in getting it under attractive but precarious conditions.

Now, this is all I have to say. You have my request before you, and the reason why i make the request. It is left for you to decide whether it is worthwhile to take the risk of helping me in the manner outlined above or not.

If you do me the great favour, not only myself and all that are mine, but also God and Africa will be grateful, I shall have no cause whatsoever to grumble or to blame you, FOR THE RISK IS GREAT.

Since this is a very selfish request, I enclosed herewith a self addressed stamped envelope to be sent under a registered post.

Obafemi Awolowo.

Merciful God!

* Chief Odutola refused him of the Loan, Awo could not travel that year. He buckle up his lace and by August 14, 1944 (one year later) he travelled to England, became a Barrister at law and was called to the Bar in November 1946. Amazingly, by 1954 (A year to the time he promised to pay Chief Odutola the Loan ) , Chief Awolowo was already a Premier in the Defunct Western Region and already giving out Scholarship to over 200 undergraduates (First of its kind in Africa).

I find it a great pleasure, to replicate the full version of the Awoistic dedicatory letter, following a stiff request by friends that the Nigerian Youths need to see and digest
*copied*

I learned the man is not naturally bad but Obasanjo imposed him on Emotions people (his first offence),then he asked workers to bring primary six certificate which led to loss of jobs). They said his performance was outstanding and balance. But, I doubt his return as governor of Ekiti state if he made to general election .

And igbos[ n IPOB are saying they are not part of the zoo, Nigeria !See one off them in action.

olamkas:
God is not a man. numbers 23:19

Verse quoted out of context

CatfishBilly:
In the book of Genesis, in the original dead Sea scrolls, when God said "Let there be firmaments" and called it heaven, it was also recorded that he also said, let there be hell, Venus, Mars and all the planets in the Milky way galaxy, he also said let there be billions of galaxies.

Your Bible is incomplete Bros, go and get a complete Bible.

Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
Acts 22: 18

Don't smoke anyway for your own sake and your health's

You don't need to.