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SalamRushdie:
Oh God why doesn't anything ever work in this country

You see am?

We are not in a wrong world but we are the wrong people.

Hairyrapunzel:
JMAN05, CAPTIVATOR, Archolardey and Barrister07 come and give answers

I like us to use this medium to educate ourselves, more so to be pragmatic and sincere in our reasoning and discussion.

1. What is the difference between knowledge and indoctrination? To a simple mind they are thes same.. Truth, however, is gotten by continuous criticism of a belief. Otherwise, one becomes a bigot - a repeater of a unquestioned idea. True knowledge starts from a departure from dogma.

.2. The one day for a year was not invented by C.T. Russell.. Long before he was born around fourteenth century, a Jewish Rabbi started to use it to explain prophecy (google it) All prophecies interpreted by it failed except none.
The symbolism is a declaration for punishment of an erring nation not even a clear cut prophecy. It can not therefore, be taking as a tool for interpretation.

3. Isaiah 66: 1 - 8; Isaiah 14: 1 -7.



Isa. 14: 1 - 2. For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. 2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the Lord for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

Read the story behind the return of Israelis to the land of Palestine in 1945. How David Ben Gurion declared Israel as a nation after 1870 years after Gen. Titus sacked Jerusalem in 70 CE, spending 1870 years outside Israel. ( You could read Exodus by Uris Leon. An historical novel by a non- religious Israeli)

Is a. 66: 8. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

3. I like to point out that all the history books and encyclopedia referred to by JW are not primarily written for religious interpretation but for knowledge. And , as such, the technicality are principles for interpretation of history is not an exclusive right of JW who are not even the custodian but consumers like myself.
So, the 607 BCE taken as the starting point for 1250 days is historically out of point as the event by records available do not mention that occurrence, rather, most reliable records put it at a later date, 586 BCE.

Also, the dream of Nebuchadnezzar had nothing to do with the coming if Jesus or any global war or trampling of Jerusalem. It is all mere conjecture and reckless extrapolation of prophecy.


4. Well I read for knowledge probing into all I like to know not swallowing every information line, hook, and sinker. I try to be accurate as I can be not following things dogmatically.
There is no where in the Bible where Jesus is clearly said would be an invisible king ruling the earth. If He is ruling, why are we not experiencing the peace promised? Till He will return the Devil continues to rule Luke 4:6.

Rejoinder welcome.. I like discussions to be centered on what is right not who is right...


I like you in addition to any other research you might want to do to read The Times of Gentile Reconsidered, by Carl Johnson Olof. He was defellowshipped by JW after he presented a treatise of twelve years work questioning the verity of the claim of JW organization..




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Hairyrapunzel:
JMAN05, CAPTIVATOR, Archolardey and Barrister07 come and give answers

I like us to use this medium to educate ourselves, cmore so to be pragmatic and sincere in our reasoning and discussion.

1. What is the difference between knowledge and indoctrination? To a simple mind they are thes same.. Truth, however, is gotten by continuous criticism of a belief. Otherwise, one becomes a bigot - a repeater of a unquestioned idea. True knowledge starts from a departure from dogma.

.2. The one day for a year was not invented by C.T. Russell.. Long before he was born around fourteenth century, a Jewish Rabbi started to use it to explain prophecy (google it) All prophecies interpreted by it failed except none.
The symbolism is a declaration for punishment of an erring nation not even a clear cut prophecy. It can not therefore, be taking as a tool for interpretation.

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GoldNiagara:
Best Secondary Schools in Nigeria Revealed By WAEC
wetinhappen.com.ng Oct 1, 2017 11:16 PM
1. Kings’ College, Lagos

2. Atlantic Hall, Poka-Epe, Lagos

3. Loyola Jesuit College, Gidan Mangoro, Karu-Karshi Road, Abuja

4. Grange Schools, Ikeja, Lagos Sate

5. Christ The King College, Onitsha

6. Vivian Fowler Memorial College, Chief T. A. Doherty Layout, Oregun, Ikeja in Lagos

7. Day Waterman College, Ikoyi, Lagos

8. LEKKI BRITISH INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL Victoria Arobieke Street, off Admiralty Way, Lekki Phase 1, Lagos. Lekki British International School

9.Lumen Christi International High School, Uromi, Edo State

10. Corona Secondary School, Agbara, Ogun State

11. Olashore International High School, Iloko Ijesha, Oshun State

12. St Gregory’s College, Ikoyi, Lagos

13. Avicenna School, Lagos

14. BRITISH INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL Landbridge Avenue, Oniru Private Estate, Victoria Island, Lagos State

15. GREENSPRINGS SCHOOL, Lagos 32, Olatunde Ayoola Avenue, Anthony, Lagos

16. The Capital Science Academy, Abuja

17. Nigerian-Turkish International Academy, Abuja

18. Louisville Girl’s High School, Ijebu-Itele, Ogun State.

19. Premiere Academy, Lugbe, Abuja

20. St Francis Catholic Secondary School, 107, Liasu Road, Idimu. P. O. Box 91, Oshodi, Lagos State, Nigeria.

21. CHRISLAND COLLEGE Ladipo Oluwole Avenue, Ikeja, Lagos.

22. Regina Pacis College, Abuja

23. DOWEN COLLEGE Regency Town, Lekki, Lagos.

24. Brookstone School secondary, International Airport Road, Igwuruta, Rivers State

25. Bethel Demonstration Schools, 3 ,Asamah Avenue, Effurun, Warri Central, Delta State

26. Saint Michael’s International School, Dadin Kowa Road, Kontagora, Niger State

27. Hillcrest School Jos, 13 Old Bukuru Road, Plateau State

28. Chrisland College, 72 ,Old Ejigbo Road, Idimu Egbeda, Alimosho, Lagos State

29. Abuja Capital International College, 352/353 Road, FHA Gwarinpa 11 Estate, Gwarinpa, Abuja

30. Charles Dale Memorial International School, 12 Army Range Road, Igwuruta-Eneka, Rivers State

31. Thomas Adewumi International College, Adewumi Drive, Oko P.M. B. 1050, Omu-Aran, Kwara State, Nigeria.

32. Lumen Christi International High School, Arue – Uromi, Benin City, Edo State

33. Adesoye College, Igosun Road, PB 4700,Offa, Kwara State

34. Holy Rosary International School, University Junction, Zone 6, Wuse, Abuja

35. CITADEL INTERNATIONAL COLLEGE, Arigidi Road Ikare Akoko, Ondo State,

36. Stage One International School, 4Th Avenue, 403 Road, PW, Kubwa, Abuja

Queen’s College, Yaba, Lagos

Capville School, House 58/60 4Th Avenue, Gwarinpa Estate, Abuja

37. Angelwings Comprehensive College, Phase 1, Site 1, Pw (Maroko) Kubwa, Abuja

38. Air Force Comprehensive School, Iyana-Offa , Ibadan, Oyo State

39. Ifako International Secondary School, 99/101 ,Iju Road, Agege, Lagos.

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No public schools, even a government secondary state or federal. Haa?!

Would you allow them to attend to her when she dies?

joyandfaith:
1914​—A Significant Year in Bible Prophecy
DECADES in advance, Bible students proclaimed that there would be significant developments in 1914. What were these, and what evidence points to 1914 as such an important year?
As recorded at Luke 21:24 , Jesus said: “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations [“the times of the Gentiles,” King James Version ] are fulfilled.” Jerusalem had been the capital city of the Jewish nation​—the seat of rulership of the line of kings from the house of King David. (Psalm 48:1, 2) However, these kings were unique among national leaders. They sat on “Jehovah’s throne” as representatives of God himself. (1 Chronicles 29:23 ) Jerusalem was thus a symbol of Jehovah’s rulership.
How and when, though, did God’s rulership begin to be “trampled on by the nations”? This happened in 607 B.C.E. when Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians. “Jehovah’s throne” became vacant, and the line of kings who descended from David was interrupted. (2 Kings 25:1-26 ) Would this ‘trampling’ go on forever? No, for the prophecy of Ezekiel said regarding Jerusalem’s last king, Zedekiah: “Remove the turban, and take off the crown. . . . It will not belong to anyone until the one who has the legal right comes, and I will give it to him.” (Ezekiel 21:26, 27) “The one who has the legal right” to the Davidic crown is Christ Jesus. (Luke 1:32, 33 ) So the ‘trampling’ would end when Jesus became King.
When would that grand event occur? Jesus showed that the Gentiles would rule for a fixed period of time. The account in Daniel chapter 4 holds the key to knowing how long that period would last. It relates a prophetic dream experienced by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He saw a tree of enormous height that was chopped down. Its stump could not grow because it was banded with iron and copper. An angel declared: “Let seven times pass over it.”​— Daniel 4:10-16 .
In the Bible, trees are sometimes used to represent rulership. (Ezekiel 17:22-24; 31:2-5 ) So the chopping down of the symbolic tree represents how God’s rulership, as expressed through the kings at Jerusalem, would be interrupted. However, the vision served notice that this ‘trampling of Jerusalem’ would be temporary​—a period of “seven times.” How long a period is that?
Revelation 12:6, 14 indicates that three and a half times equal “1,260 days.” “Seven times” would therefore last twice as long, or 2,520 days. But the Gentile nations did not stop ‘trampling’ on God’s rulership a mere 2,520 days after Jerusalem’s fall. Evidently, then, this prophecy covers a much longer period of time. On the basis of Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6 , which speak of “a day for a year,” the “seven times” would cover 2,520 years.
The 2,520 years began in October 607 B.C.E., when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians and the Davidic king was taken off his throne. The period ended in October 1914. At that time, “the appointed times of the nations” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King. * —
Psalm 2:1-6; Daniel 7:13, 14 .
Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments​—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11 ) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of “the last days” of this present wicked system of things.​— 2 Timothy 3:1-5 .

Thanks so much for the explanation. I read all these in the JW on prophecy of Daniel.

The questions that arise are:
1. One day for one year mentioned in both Leviticus and Ezekiel are to symbolize punishment for Israelites. Is it valid rule for interpretation of prophecy?
2. I feel the return of Israel to Palestine or rebirth of the nation of Israel on 15 th May, 1945 or so under David be Gurion is more suitable for ending the trampling of Jerusalem.
3. A research work of one Carl Johnson Olof posited that the date 607 BCE by many authurities of history was not agreed upon but favoured 586 BCE.
(You can read a download PDF version.)

4. This invisible installation of Jesus, is it clearly supported by the scriptures.

5. Towards the end of Daniels prophecy there is an Epiphanies philopator more suitable for the JW than the one suggested.

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rottennaija:
That's one of the many false doctrine of JWs. The 1914 date is wrong, leading a list of some many false prophecies. One of such false predictions is about "this generation".

If you had noticed, as about 4 or 5 years ago, the governing body of jw had to change the doctrine to some sort of overlapping generation doctrine. This was purely because the generation prophecies failed as it was based on 1914.

To cut the long story short, all of watch tower prophecies has failed. None ever was true. When it fails, they change the doctrine around the prophecies or change the date.


There is no support, scriptural, historical or academic for the 1914 doctrine. However, it a doctrine that watchtower cannot do without, it is a doctrine that will collapse their organization if they try to amend it irrespective of how wrong it is.

I encourage you to make more research. You will certainly discover more.

Thanks, I am still researching.

icybeth:
It is true concerning d date

What is the truth about it ? What makes it special?

Nairalanders, I have been studying the end times prophecies. Reading through the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, and most especially Daniel among others. For a balanced view some publications of JW, even Islamic view about end times.
The one that struck me is this issue of 1914 of JW. Going through some historical records and even the interpretation given to it by JWs. The date lacks historical evidence.


Any JW in all the house to justify the the authenticity of the date?

Death, he died..

There is no confusion about Sabbath in the Bible. The problem is that confused people make it look confusing. The Bible is basically about Law and Grace. Some preachers preach the Law some Grace and some do not know the difference.

Sabbath is basically for Israelites. The observation is also solely for them in all content, intent, and purpose. The observation took days, weeks, years each in its cycle. And majorly with land of Israel.


Under the Grace, if you came in through Jesus, He has become the Sabbath for all believers.
Read Hebrews 4: 4 - 10

Also Colossians 2: 14 - 17

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Why always Islam?

surgecom:
Wow. Not trying to tribalize, why only from South. No northern "first professor of"

First Professor of Islamic Terrorism Professor Mohammed Yussuf.

xreal:
If I hear that sentence at my left, and I hear a gun shot at my right at the same time; I will run to my right for safety.

Allah akbar
Mohammed Akbar..
Terrorism Akbar.

The sword of Islam.

These stupid Europeans and their civilization.

zombieHUNTER:
It has already begun
ISIS displacing Muslims in Syria and Iraq is the key
They won't go to the neighbouring Muslim countries
Europe is their destination
It's a grand plan and design

Yes, God's plan not superiority of Islam. A way to gather Muslim neighbours of Israel for the great battle of Armageddon, the last battle. Then, Islam and its adherents shall know which religion is true.

zombieHUNTER:
When they were busy opening their borders to these terrorists... Were they blind
Today a Muslim is the mayor of London
When will a Christan hold same office say Saudi Arabia

Islam will take over the world
Only because Muslims are all the same and with the same agenda
Whether they are operating in sambisa or aso rock..It starts with naive Europe

You get sense my bother

'For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people......'
Issish 60 2

The religion that plunged the great Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian and Median glories into obscurity, such that today, there is no trace they ever ruled the world is about taking over the present civilization.
I see the prophecy of Jehovah coming to fulfilment.

The devil has come to dwell in France permanently.. European stupidity called civilization.

alexistaiwo:
After all said and done.
The property in question was brought with TITHES proceeds

With tithes of these thieves alone? Anything done in the house of God is for God.. Don't you think others have right also to the property?
These are thieves.

Allah lives in Kaaba, Mecca. Period.

While in the premier university, I can't remember there was a department of Palmwine Tapping. This guy must have taken his electives kegites shrine somewhere around Zik hall.

God bless your efforts anyway. Use your knowledge to package the palm wine to be suitable for parties and Aso Rock entertainment.

Theakthedream:
OLODO... There are thousands of Homosexuals in Nigeria,.. But how many have you met.. But watch them open up immediately they are in teir comfort zone...
That was how christainity was when it was first introduced to Igbos and other tribes..

Is Islam a secret society? Is there are ebonyi Muslims or Muslim ebonyi tell us or show us . Alhaji Chukwumerije Muhammad or Imam Okorocha or Sheik Odimgwu Ojukwu.

IkpuMmiri:
bloody liar!

Which part of Afikpo are you from?

There a big anw-salu-deen school in Uwana Afikpo!

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So the school is the Muslim or the teachers or the students? Who founded the school?

ElsonMorali:
That you haven't met a large number of Igbo Moslems doesn't mean there isn't a large number of Igbo Moslems.

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Olodo ni e.
Answer simple question. Where are ebonyi muslms hiding?

Put her in a good house. Look for another woman wh is good at sex and keep her in a sexy apartment.

Could this be a gift from Mr Governor?

You have said it all one is early the other is late.

GistMore:
@GistMorecom

No fewer than 15 people were killed after two suicide bombers attacked residents of Konduga community in Borno state this morning. The victims were filing to receive some aids when the suicide bombers struck.

“There were twin suicide explosions at 11:10 am (1010 GMT) in Mashalari village (near Konduga), which killed 15 and left 43 others injured,” a rescue worker said


The bodies of the victims have been taken to the morgue while the injured ones have been rushed to the.

More Gist @ http://www.gistmore.com/15-die-suicide-bombers-attack-konduga-community-borno-state

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Are the dead Muslims? If yes Allah Akbar, Their brethren despatched them to al - jannah. Muslims are not terrorists but agents of Allah to eradicate infidels starting from muslim infidels
Allah Akbar.

0m0nnakoda:
Oduduwa has no connection to middle East abeg please stop that nonsense I take God beg you

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Through which route did Igbo people take take from Palestine to current location? Who led them? Any trace of worship of Jevovah in their culture?

maxwell767:


A lion that claims to be king of the jungle will surely run when the jungle is on fire

In the zoo called Nigeria, igbos are not lions but goats lion know themselves. Lions don't beg. They don't complaint. They reach for their goals with confidence. Book haram agitators are proudly dying daily for their course. The brave igbos refuse to die yet want freedom.
Their political people double deal. No one whether they are with IPOB or MASSOB. No ideology or philosophy other than money at all cost.

You don't say anything against igbos. They are just making unnecessary noise. They are only good in envy, cheating, fake drugs, crime (home n abroad), chest beating, greed and selfishness.

People without history. A toun rin wa. Fake Jews of lower Sahara. Oduduwa took 90 days from middke eastern side to Ife. They just appeared in their location not by sea or land.
Dindinrin radarada.
Efulefu.