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imhotep: Anybody can claim that God/angels spoke to him/her. Its the easy way out. Especially when it comes 570 years after the major events. How suspicious.

Point. of correction Mohammad was born 570 AD became a prophet around. 610 AD. The angel that revealed to him about 700 years later to rewrite scriptures must non other than. the devil.

Eben 2: My brother, i am not fighting with you. I am only trying to show you the Way and the Truth. Islam is a creation of the Roman Catholic that went wrong. Mohammed was an unlearned person that

Mahdino! The Bible reads Eli, Eli, nor ela, ela. No israeli: Moses, Abraham, Job, or even Jesus knew God by the name Allah.
Another lie to deceive innocent people
Allah is god of arabs not of israel or christians. Anyway whatever he is he is my own creator lord.

Poor. Charity she was born a princess of God now a converted slave of Allah. eeyah!

Tinubu, I think he understand his peoole and their political inclinations. What he champions now is what Awolowo fought all his life - northern oligarchy. The yorubas has never operated or respected the northern way of life. If this alliance should fail or the north refuse to honour this pact and emback on betrayal and begin to marginalise yoruba.
I feat when the chips are down if people will not follow him. Yorubas do not take orders from monarchs to vote, or deny people positions on religious ground or have no regards for the development of their followers.
I think he should concentrate on good governance in his zone and sell thesame to any state or zones that are tired of mediocrity. I am not so comfortable with his APIC of a thing. If he fails how will he look like in the pages of history?


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Tinubu, I think he understand his peoole and their political inclinations. What he champions now is what Awolowo fought all his life - northern oligarchy. The yorubas has never operated or respected the northern way of life. If this alliance should fail or the north refuse to honour this pact and emback on betrayal and begin to marginalise yoruba.
I feat when the chips are down if people will follow him. Yorubas do not take orders from monarchs to vote, or deny people positions on religious ground or have no regards for the development of their followers.
I think he should concentrate on good governance and sell thesame to any state or zones that are tired of mediocrity. I am not so comfortable with his APIC of a thing.


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The 2013 election is gathering momentum soon we will be feeling the heat. To the hausa / fulani: you can fool some of the people some of the time not all the people all time. The mistake of annulling june 12, election is a mistake too many
This what brought in Obasanjo that opened the eyes of middle - beltans and the rest. To reverse this trend? I don't see an easy task. Soon some of the monarchs barely going along with Sultan of Sokoto will begin to dare him and your youths will be rebeling against the status quo. Annulment of June 12 is a mistake too many.
Long live to an emerging Nigeria.

This is funny. If a person converts to another religion he/ she should not be allowed access to his family? This Same Etsu Nips again, who declined to say anything about the boko haram blasts in his domain and threatened that shiek with 84 wives until the shiek sought redress in normal court. This northern lawlessness sha. Let him kidnap a daughter of a military officer and see pepper.

Nonsense. What is wrong in a man choosing a name he wants to addressed? Ameachi was almost crucified for his Rotimi maternal identity. Prof. Choke Oni named his three boys after the three major tribes in Nigeria. One of them Dr. Balogun Chike Obi taught me. His yoruba name has not changed his identity
All my children have igbo names and I am a yoruba person who has never lived in igboland. I think you igbo guys are suffering from a yet to be diagnosed disease.

Nonsense. What is wrong in a man choosing a name he wants to addressed? Ameachi was almost crucified for his Rotimi maternal identity. Prof. Choke Oni named his three boys after the three major tribes in Nigeria. One of them Dr. Balogun Choke Oni taught me. His yoruba name has not changed his identity
All my children have ignore names and I am a yoruba person who has.never lived in igboland. I think you igbo guys are suffering from a yet to be diagnosed disease.

I think.there. are. so much confusion about thus heaven issue. It is like the eckist heaven is different from christian's. Except for the story of hadith I had about muslim heaven filled with women and Wine. ( I am not sure. I read any such hadith). I think this heaven - hell issue is mere illusion. I will still love to read a muslim's version - a real life testimony not references from qouran or any other writ.

I have always thought Islam is of the devil; their god Allah CAN NEVER be the JEHOVAH of the Bible or the revraler JUBRIL, GABRIEL of the judeo - christian religion.
Muhammad himself must have been a power thirsty person who knew the captivating power of religion and used it to build his hellish empire.
ls he any different from Gjhegis Khan of China or Adolf Hitler of Germany? My innocent. muslim brothers and sisters who have been brainwashed. I personally have thought about the glories of middle east before the advent of islam and the poverty of ideas now. I think the islamic heaven will still be filled with violence and confusion. If other religions preach and practice peace and Islam alone started, spread, and sustained by violence. a peaceful hereafter will be alien to their heaven dwellers. If in they name. of Jesus miracle is intended and wrought and in mentioning Muhammad and Allah's names most shameful crimes are comited against humanity. You should by wisdom know who to follow.

just point to one book, chapter, verse, prophecy, doctrine that is not from God and suggest another scripture for christians.

you guys are deviating from the thrust of this thread. This is not for sentimental preaching but to share experience. Benodic is making sense only he has not told us who is who in heaven and he has not visited
hell The question. remains: are heaven and hell exclusively for christians to visit? If you are for instance a muslim or eckist or Okija oracle shrine worshiper share. an experience of your visit. Are christians the only people in both places? Tell us something we can relate with.

benodic: @ Mighty Sparrow


which experience at which level of heaven am i to share? even if i share people will still goof at it so i do not feel it is necessary. i always encourage any one courageous enough to make the journey and see things for himself. others have done it and so can you. it is only those who have had the experience that will understand. as per what i go to do, there are schools also in the inner planes where people go to learn about God. learning is not only on earth. as per hell i have no interest in the place as my focus is on the light and sound of God.

In one word did you also see Mrs. Kumuyi therc
e? Is your own heaven different from the dead - visitors own?

benodic: @ Mighty Sparrow



there are many heavens and people go to the heaven that corresponds to their state of consciousness. that is why Jesus said that in his fathers house there are many mansions and that he is going to prepare a place for his followers.

this should give you an idea of how heaven is set up. people with similar believes tend to gravitate together to the level of heaven that matches their level of spiritual awareness or consciousness.

hell is a self inflicted state of existence that very evil souls create for themse

lves still according to their level of consciousness; they have allowed their evil deeds to separate them from the light and sound of God hence placing themselves in a state of darkness which is nothing buttons pure hell for soul.

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benodic many. thanks for your point of view and explanation. I still insist that you share an experience. I have heard about people in your own group who claim to visit heaven. Two questions: what do you go to do? Have visited hell also? pls. tell us something we can relate with.

ebenice: well its funny dat no matter how JESUS.try His best to redeem mankind using various mediums..its still bizaire dat sum people wunt still repent.nd belive .just as JESUS..told d rich man in luke16...even if one raise from d dead go to tell dem they wunt stil belive..a ghni eanian boy testified he saw gen sani abacha in hell..not to raise dust..but search turbidity videos u'll see a revelation from Jesus.about...mohamed in hell confessin he started hislam just becos he wants to be popular..like JESUS..nd koran was from Dmons...wake up the end is near!

ebenicejwell it seems you don't understand the argument the fellows that saw Abacha or Mohammad in hell (if they ever did) must be christians. The eckist fellow claims he and his group visit. heaven at will. Who do they see in heaven? Do they visit hell too? What is it like?
Pls say something we can relate with to see if there is any common place in your experiences.

Thank you Sirniyeh. I think these people are sick. All the prophets in both OT and NT were not dying to see any revelations yet their prophecies have stood the test of time. All the gullible people all over are believing people that the Holy Spirit could not reveal anything to until they die. Modern prophets peddling lies some are even asking demons questions in their deliverance services to get extra biblical truth. The Bible the way I understand it is closed book you cannot add to or remove from it., Some claim they are satan deputies; they even claim they. are more terrible than the devil to arrogate to themselves undue recognition or to their ministries. I expect some if claims to happen in redemption camp or Shiloh or any other mega gathering. only God can deliver us from ourselves.

I have read so many right ups and books on this topic. It seems this heaven and hell as reported by their visitors are made for christians alone. can someone share an experience of either or both from other religion: islam, grail message, eckankar, Okija shrine ..
.?

You can clearly see no amount of education can influence these aboki boko haram. They are blind to civilization and have their hearts seared and dangerously biased against reason. These are the best from north the mentors of their future
leaders who wil lead nigeria of tomorrow.
Dear Nigeeia, my heart bleeds for you.

I am tired of these heaven travellers o jare. By the way what was your mission there?

Islam is the rod of Allah to wipe out the infidel. Let the BH kill all the innocent young infidels from the north and burn all the infidels' schools in the Allah blessed north.
Allah Akbar.

Smart Adeyemi is a fool. Whatever prompted his action he simply showed the stuff he is made of. Some people with low IQ are saying Tinubu is a coward for not staying for more insult from an uncultured idiot. Do you expect him to wrest microphone from his (Adeyemi's) hands or to be holering in the party? The best an elderly person should do in response to a bastard is what Tinubu did. As a yoruba person who has home training he should know that he committed a blunder. No matter their political ideology or differences adeyemi cracked an expensive joke, if it is a joke. If it is a political campaign: it was a wrong speech from a wrong person in the wrong place for a wrong objective.

Silly Smart Adeyemi,what has been result of the N900 billion? The big personalities would rather go to a peaceful Dubai where there is no fear of Boko Haram bombing than any hall in Nigeria.
Harassing an opposition leader in a wedding party to promote a useless party is an act irresponbility on his part just because he has the opportunity to be the MC of a wedding party. He now threw decorum into the wind. By harassing an elderly man in such gathering. He did not only embarrass Tinubu but also the celebrant that invited him who would definitely apologise to Tinubu after the function. I think he is not a true yoruba son. He lacks home training. In own state what achievements of his PDP governors can match those of ACN? He is only jittery of the change to come.

Naija! Naija!! Naija!!!
Until I see I no go believe
Where are the products of FIIRO well aired by NTA and test - run, PRODA of Babangida?

I learned Prof. Chike Obi solved one of the toughest mathematical theorems before he died.
When the living cannot solve a riddles we could refer to the dead.
Could Prof. Chike Obi please help solve this PDP mathemagical equation?
16 > 19 = NGF chairman.

SAN FRANCISCO, June 14,
(THEWILL) – In a rare show of
zero-tolerance for wayward
living, a 60-year-old business
mogul in Maiduguri, the Borno
State capital, on Friday, handed
his son, who is said to be a
Boko Haram member, to the
military Joint Task Force (JTF).
The son, who had reportedly
threatened to kill his
disciplinarian father before
leaving home a few days ago,
was said to have returned
home suddenly, begging his
father to give him protection
from the JTF operatives, who
had been on his trail.
A family source disclosed that
"After confessing all his crimes,
including how he participated in
killing of people and looting of
banks to his father, the old
man decided that it was
against his conscience to keep
a killer son in his home; so
decided to turn him in."
According to the source, after
listening to the confession of
his son, the man simply walked
up to the nearest JTF office to
report the boy and when
soldiers of the JTF arrived to
arrest him, he tried to escape
and was shot dead.
But the businessman was said
not be moved by the killing of
his son as he was reported to
have said ”Masha Allah”
meaning “to God be the glory”
in Hausa language.
The man was also said to have
decided against taking up the
ill-gotten wealth of his son
stashed away near the family
house.
According to an eyewitness,
"Before he was handed over to
the soldiers, the young man
had revealed to his father and
family members that he
possessed two cars and had
millions of Naira buried
somewhere near the family
home.
"But the no-nonsense father
said he had no interest in his ill-
gotten asset and had no
intention of inheriting his
assets, saying, according to
Islamic injunctions, they are
haram.'"

This is the best man fit to be celebrated on the Fathers' Day.

You have asked a very important question. The understanding of which will put an end to all arguments on the identity of Jesus.

I Tim. 3: 16
Without controversy, the mystery of godliness is great: God was revealed in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, and received up in glory. - 1 Timothy 3:16 (WEB)
Let us examine the drama that happened in Garden of Eden. The real thing that transpired between Adam, Eve, and Satan are clear ONLY to God and Devil alone. I am not sure whether Adam and Eve really understood only that they discovered that their nature had undergone a change. The thing angered God that He cursed man, and all that were created for him and serpent the devil used.
To correct this error is all the story of the Bible is all about.
In a simple way God wanted a correction that will justify man, fair to the devil in judgement and also reconstruct man, He made a rescue plan fo man by a way of covenant. One of the characteristics of covenant is it is never done by proxy. God has to put Abraham to sleep to make a covenant with him. Gen 15, He made covenant with Israelites also in a vision Exo. 24. All these were shadows. He had to come shrouded Himself in a human body not provided by natural way of man. He had to recreate Himself thus becoming the first begotten from the dead or the beginning of God creation or the re - creator of a new order of humans. Read and study John 14 - 16; John 12: 40 - 41. All he left of Himself now is the holy communion bread as the only tangible, touch able thing we have aside his name.

In the beginning was the Word,the Word became flesh and the departed and gave us the bread and wine on the altar of covenant.
A time is coming when all these mysteries will finish because mysteries are what is not explainable by reason or argument.

but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as he declared to his servants, the prophets. - Revelation 10:7

The thread is not worth arguing about. If you have problem about Jesus' identity get to reading the Bible alone and get rid of books and interpretations of Bible by so called teachers they mislead. Jesus said ' the word I speak unto you are spirit and truth....' I John 2: 27 you do not need any teacher to mislead you. Do not be lazy start from Genesis through revelation and again, One JW was taunting me years ago. That led my into the scriptures without reading any other books or very few books. By the time I read seven times I made up my mind to join a denomination I found out is in line with the meaning of scriptures. I found out if you read to argue or criticise you WILL see the beauty, the intent and content of the Bible. I await your testimony if you follow this humble advice.

tellwisdom: Are you sure mr arewa said this??

If Arewa cannot think isn't good some sensible person think for them?