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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:12pm On Jul 08, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: A fool like you will most likely be a fool forever. Until Nigeria loses a war, our Presidents and Commanders-In-Chief and troops, have proven to be up to the task unlike your SANDF and fat-cat generals. Your loss of men, taxpayers money, and hardware in CAR should be a strong lesson. You talk of those Dictators ... I guess your ignorance fails to comprehend that ours is a true democracy guided by a Constitution that you and your kin have spent time studying like good students. It's your time, read on!
SANDF didn't lose any valuable equipment in CAR,only a few "troop packs".But did you see the well coordinated response from all arms of the SANDF during the withdrawal,Gripen were flown to Zambia,Rooivalks stationed near by,Mobile clinics set,supported by the other parabats company which was not deployed. While the Nigerian armed forces only folded their arms and watch Islamic rebels or terrorists take town after town in Mali last year,in Nigeria's "region of influence". To tell you the truth Nigeria's army has never been tasted in combat,against a well armed,well organised force.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:41pm On Jul 08, 2013
Henry120: No, thank you. First up-grade your 11 rooivalk helicopters so that they can at-least shoot at something. Besides all our MI-35p's and MI-24B hind's are all up-graded.
YES,we did upgrade our Rooivalks to the Block 1F standard. Where did you upgrade you Mi?,cause South Africa is the only country in Africa capable of upgrading Attack helos.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:26pm On Jul 08, 2013
Henry120: With ethiopia, that's a different cup of coffee. However, ethiopia has a lot going for it too. 95% of all black IDF and mossad members are of ethiopian descent. Diaspora military knowledge and experience from kicking arab butts could possibly sway the/any conflict between ethiopia v egypt, ethiopia's way.

That's an advantage that has been overlooked here in this thread.
I partly agree,even if Ethiopia will be supported by well experienced and trained soldiers,lack of quality equipment might hinder them from pushing any Egyptian advance. Remember during the 1973 Yom kippor war,when Israel was overwhelmed by the well equipped Arab forces(Egypt and Syria)?they were only able to push back after the massive air lift of arms from the USA to Israel.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:26am On Jul 08, 2013
andrewza: That the distance between the to is rather larger and egpty can not support a large enough force that far south. There will be no overt war, at best a raid or terrorist(sponsored by egypt) attack. Even then that would only delay the the dam.
Don't you think we gonna see air strikes on the dam with F-16 jets,rather than mechanised units or divisions invading Ethiopia?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:17am On Jul 08, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: People will lose their minds and self control trying to pontificate to Nigeria what the rights and privileges of the President and Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces are? Your pain ... not ours!!

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Leaders like Idi Amin or Gaddafi whom wear military uniforms tend to get idea,of them being more capable to lead their armed forces than the actual Generals which backfires in a "loss of war" and men.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:52am On Jul 08, 2013
chris365: don't you smell something here?
i think Ethiopia realizes that when Egypt is able to regain itself from the situation they are in and elect a more decisive leader, they'll want to claim back their portion of the Nile which is their lifeline. Ethiopia is preparing for any possibilities.. abi wetin you think?
But Egypt possess superior American made weapons,like the Abrams tank which has proved on many occasions that it is a T-72 tank killer. Plus the Apache helo armed with the Hellfire missiles it can pop many tanks and "technicals". But here is the question Egyptian: can the Egyptians really fight?,cause Israel always gave them some serious whoooping!!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:36am On Jul 08, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:32am On Jul 08, 2013
chris365: grin grin grin grin grin grin Please stop with the hilarious delusion.

you admitted to the ANC thing and yet in defense you still said they didn't kill as much as boko haram. lol

i didn't hear you defend Britain, or what about turkey that fought Kurdish rebels for decades and still had to beg them to lay down their weapons?

Maoist and other insurgents still very active and recently killed many important indian politicians in India?

or insurgents in Colombia, Thailand, Indonesia, Sabah insurgency in Malaysia, Russia that is the second world military power still faces insurgencies til date, etc.. note that these countries have very strong military in world ranking

pleas you guys should not start with this your routine of raising problems you are not free from. post pictures if you don't have verbal gist.
Russia is a huge unlike Nigeria. Please advice your president to give Boko Haram's leader a air plane ticket to SA next time when he goes to his tea lady,So we can put him to jail like we did with the MEND leader since your leaders were afraid to do so. grin
chris365: grin grin grin grin grin grin Please stop with the hilarious delusion.

you admitted to the ANC thing and yet in defense you still said they didn't kill as much as boko haram. lol

i didn't hear you defend Britain, or what about turkey that fought Kurdish rebels for decades and still had to beg them to lay down their weapons?

Maoist and other insurgents still very active and recently killed many important indian politicians in India?

or insurgents in Colombia, Thailand, Indonesia, Sabah insurgency in Malaysia, Russia that is the second world military power still faces insurgencies til date, etc.. note that these countries have very strong military in world ranking

pleas you guys should not start with this your routine of raising problems you are not free from. post pictures if you don't have verbal gist.
Russia is a huge country unlike Nigeria. Please advice your president to give Boko Haram's leader a air plane ticket to SA next time when he goes to be his tea lady,So we can put him to jail like we did with the MEND leader since your leaders were afraid to do so.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:12pm On Jul 07, 2013
chris365: ignorance is a disease. careful not to purposely inflict yourself with it.

if dealing with insurgency was that easy, perhaps United States would not be begging Taliban to negotiate, seeing that the number of troops and weapons in Afghanistan is enough to level SA in a day or two.

or are you so quick to forget that during the apartheid regime when SA military had it glorious days, they were not able to put down the ANC insurgency?

or how mighty Britain with all it's equipments and very well trained military was unable to put down the IRA insurgency for decades.

boko haram have now targeted soft spots unlike before because they've had their a.sses whooped and have been weakened. thereby resorting to attack soft targets like schools so we'll know they still exist.

try to fend off ignorance from your life o... it's a disease
Well America is not fighting the Taliban in their back yards like your "mighty nigerian army" is,and their intelligence agencies can track and put to justice any terrorist operating on the USA soil like we saw with the Boston bombers. On the ANC: Well the ANC's Umkhonto we sizwe didn't hit and kill as many people like Boko Haram is now. Last year SA special task force proved how difficult it would be for militants to operate in,SA when they Arrested(reports saying they belonged to M23) people whom were seeking to over throw the DRC government.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:58pm On Jul 07, 2013
GidiNaijaPikin: Ask your brother Mike..ZA. But then why must you South Africans point out problems of Boko Haram terrorists yet feel offended when we point you to your own seriously embedded problem of brutal crimes in your beautiful South Africa? Like I said ... please don't start something you can't finish.
My name sure tastes sweet in your mouth huh?.well I'm here to finish anything I might have started,which is getting to shut up cause you talk rubbish.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:55pm On Jul 07, 2013
GidiNaijaPikin: Again your stupidity is a problem and your brain needs to be checked. Ask your SANDF where they were last weekend when over 44 people were murdered in Cape Town by gangs of the Cape Flats? Please don't overdo yourself.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/44-killed-in-bloody-Cape-Town-weekend-20130702

Mike..ZA help yourself.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:49pm On Jul 07, 2013
GidiNaijaPikin: South Africans and their warped sense of reasoning! It's more like asking where your SANDF has been with all the Rhinos in your National Parks being dehorned by Chinese poachers inside South Africa.

With all your shiny weapons yet brutal crime is still the best hobby in all of South Africa? Stop playing stupid games!

Please be useful to yourself.
Are making jokes cause sure you're funny,First the Rhinos are being poached by people whom mostly come from Mozambique and SANDF is only offering support to the national park rangers.I might "be playing stupid" but well you're stupid.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:58pm On Jul 07, 2013
sheyie2007: lipsrsealed
WHAT?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:56pm On Jul 07, 2013
Henry120: In combat, we'd know which of the two is superior to the other.
The SADF had the vehicle of the same class the Eland,which they replaced which the Rooikat. So I thought this one might as be o...........
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:50pm On Jul 07, 2013
GidiNaijaPikin: Let's leave the answer for the battlefield. Don't waste your time now.
Where was this armoured vehicle hiding during the CAR battle?
I might as well ask,where were this weapons last night when BH massacred those innocent weapons? grin
GidiNaijaPikin: Let's leave the answer for the battlefield. Don't waste your time now.
Where was this armoured vehicle hiding during the CAR battle?
I might as well ask,where were this weapons last night when BH massacred those innocent students?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:46pm On Jul 07, 2013
GidiNaijaPikin: Seems you are rabblerousing ... possibly looking for a blowout like we've had many times over. Nigeria is actively involved and engaged with all weapons and hardware deployed to suite the field operations. SANDF's Gripens will remain in the freezer for a long time to come while we maximise use of all the above listed for success as usual.
But even when you "engaged all your weapons",boko haram still manages to terrify your citizens. If the SANDF was heavily engaged like you guys,new awesome weapons might be fielded.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:42pm On Jul 07, 2013
Hezron Lorraine: why remind them of the Grippens na.those jets are still as frozen as iceberg in antartica. grin
What should we use the Gripens for?,but I think you saw how quick they can be utilised during the SANDF(parabats) withdrawal from CAR.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:17pm On Jul 07, 2013
Henry120: There are no photos of some of the following at the moment,

- a Bofors FH77B 155mm artillery piece being towed by a prime mover

- a Palmaria 155mm SPH

- Panhard AML 60 AFVs

- Igirigi APC painted in desert camo

- Otokar Cobra APCs painted in desert camo

- Mobile Field Kitchen and Airconditioned Desert Tent of the Ordnance Corps

- Otokar Cobra Armoured Recovery Vehicles (first sighting)

- Panhard M3 APC – battlefield ambulance (first sighting)

- Spartan tracked APCs
Are they kept as a secret or they're put in long term storage?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:11pm On Jul 07, 2013
Henry120: Nadcel 2013
Can this armoured fighting vehicle,take on its South African counterpart the Rooikat in combat?

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:05pm On Jul 06, 2013
chris365: for your information; Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Wars are fought by men and it's not about the weapon but the man wielding it.

There are a lot of weapons in the Nigerian military inventory but as always we don't stick to one tactic (weapon).

You can look up Nigerian SBS training US marines in the Delta with the FN FAL rifle. Our military tends to have a policy of versatility.

Every country's military no matter the level of training still have indisciplined personnel but it's the ability of the military to fish them out and punish them that matters. Your countryman just posted proof of Nigerian soldiers facing trial for misconduct.

And what's with the gay thing in spelling my country? If you don't have anything to say it's best you sit back and read from others and stop exposing your ignorance. And later they'll say Nigerians always start the insults.

@Thiza
hope you're taking notes
Don't make me laugh,we all know wars these days are won by him who possess superior technological weapons. We saw this in the first gulf war when Iraqi T-72 tanks failed miserably to destroy the collision tanks like the mighty USA Abrams tanks or british challenger tanks. LETS TALK WAR!!.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:30pm On Jul 06, 2013
andrewza: i actually like the FN fal or R1 in the SANDF, has for the nigerian AK, they probably similar to the AKM
Sorry sir,but the SANDF doesn't use the FN FAL(or R1 in SA) rifle it was retired in the eighties. The SANDF is now putting in service the "21st century R5 upgraded" rifle. The FN FAL is used by game rangers in SA national parks eg Kruger national park .
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 3:08pm On Jul 06, 2013
andrewza: The C130J and C295 may both be chooses

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30401:feature-sandf-optimum-force-design&catid=32:military-art-a-science&Itemid=112

our need is for

8 coastal surveillance aircraft (eg C295)
6 long-range surveillance aircraft (eg HC-130J)
18 shipboard helicopters (Super Lynx)(this is due to project biro and the plan to purchase 2 to 3 combat support ships or LHDs
Getting the C130Js is unlikely,the A400M is more realistic,since Airbus has offered Denel another contract for building more components for the A400M.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 3:00pm On Jul 06, 2013
saengine: Yes you are right. NAF has made some very foolish decisions. Paying $15 million for jets that will only be used as a stop gap measure. That much money for jets that won't be around for long, very foolish I agree. Then you try justify the purchase by saying Nigeria will use F-7s to learn how to build your own jets, when you could have used much cheaper jets to do the same thing. Why are Nigerian engineers scared to buy and open up JF-17 if you claim they are the same price?You bought outdated crap, just get over it. Even the authour of beeglesblog (who you love so much) says Nigeria could have got much better value for money.
Can this J-17 jet take on the Gripen or Hawk in a dog fight?,Or the Cheeter C(Retired) which on many occasions proved to be deadly to its opponents. And what kind of smart bombs are this jets armed with?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:49pm On Jul 06, 2013
agaugust: go put your ancient south african airforce junk Dakota aeroplanes in a museum. grin grin grin
Work on replacing has started,Airbus was in SA offering their C295 and A400M while Boeing is still offering the C130J for maritime operations.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:39pm On Jul 06, 2013
agaugust: any problem with foreign help ? south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship engine is made in France, and without it your helicopter is a mere box of metals that cannot fly one inch above the ground.
South Africa can replace those engines if needed,we all know the Rooivalk's performance and level of technology is or above the league of its rivals,the McDonnell Apache and Tiger(Eurocopter). I think in the near future around 2020 SAAF will begin work to replace Denel's Oryx utility helicopter,meaning South Africa will build another helicopter which will be the base for the development of Rooivalk's replacement. wink
agaugust: any problem with foreign help ? south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship engine is made in France, and without it your helicopter is a mere box of metals that cannot fly one inch above the ground.
South Africa can replace those engines if needed,we all know the Rooivalk's performance and level of technology is or above the league of its rivals,the McDonnell Apache and Tiger(Eurocopter). I think in the near future around 2020 SAAF will begin work to replace Denel's Oryx utility helicopter,meaning South Africa will build another helicopter which will be the base for the development of Rooivalk's replacement.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:10pm On Jul 06, 2013
agaugust: if seleka or M23 congo rebels capture these your soldier girls, they wont k.ill them o ! dont ask me what the rebels will do to them instead...i dont really know, you go ask any adult man... grin grin grin

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Did you read the story of Corporal Nkoana(SANDF) female soldier,who guided her fellow soldiers back to base when they were cut from their company during the Bangui battle?,besides the Recces would rescue them.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 12:06pm On Jul 06, 2013
solomon111: If the "outside help" you mean are "foreign trained Nigerian engineers",then yes,we will get outside help.
NOPE,I mean help from a "foreign country".Has Nigeria ever produced any craft?expect drones?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:31am On Jul 06, 2013
agaugust: [size=16pt]hidden reasons behind nigerian F-7 jet...NAF working to build combat aircraft[/size]

the choice of buying the F-7 jet as temporary fighter, the regular nigerian engineers full dis-assembly and re-assembly of the jet and domestic fabrication/production of some of its spare parts, are said to be a grand plan by nigeria to develop a light combat jet aircraft like the F-7 jet.

POTENTIALS OF AIR FORCE INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, KADUNA CITY, NIGERIA.

The potentials of AFIT are numerous. Some of it include:

a. Provision of specialist knowledge and advancement in the fields of aeronautics, aerospace engineering and avionics.

b. Ability to train up to postgraduate levels using specialized and state-of-the-art equipment.

c. Development of human capacity at all levels from technician up to specialist grades.

d. Ability to develop a made in Nigeria combat aircraft and other air vehicles such as unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV).

weblink source http://afit-nigeria.org/index.php/about-afit/item/50-potentials-of-air-force-institute-of-technology.html
Without outside help Nigeria can't develop a. Fighter,tell me something like "Nigeria wanna upgrade their 'turkey jets' "
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:21am On Jul 06, 2013
chris365: Nice.. But i hope it's not a copycat of AMEBO 3 drone of NAF ?grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 11:33pm On Jul 05, 2013
grin
agaugust: angola border war was conventional war not counter-terrorism war.

nigeria has better experience in war with over 70,000 rebels/guerilla/insurgent forces in sierra leone and liberia, so we should be training south africa how to go back to CAR and defeat seleka rebels and how to reduce your casualties when you face M23 Congo rebels inside thick forest/jungle in case the rebels move bases into hiding.

the worst kind of war in the world is jungle warfare, and nigeria is world champion for that. get it ? yeah man !

nigerian army infantry....king of the jungle !
Are your soldiers still using that old FN FAL rifle?,I see why Boko Haram is making them ladies. They serve Boko Haram leaders pan cakes every morning. Ni«gay»rian army is ill disciplined. cheesy
agaugust: angola border war was conventional war not counter-terrorism war.

nigeria has better experience in war with over 70,000 rebels/guerilla/insurgent forces in sierra leone and liberia, so we should be training south africa how to go back to CAR and defeat seleka rebels and how to reduce your casualties when you face M23 Congo rebels inside thick forest/jungle in case the rebels move bases into hiding.

the worst kind of war in the world is jungle warfare, and nigeria is world champion for that. get it ? yeah man !

nigerian army infantry....king of the jungle !
Are your soldiers still using that old FN FAL rifle?,I see why Boko Haram is making them ladies. They serve Boko Haram leaders pan cakes every morning. Ni«gay»rian army is ill disciplined.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 11:26pm On Jul 05, 2013
agaugust: angola border war was conventional war not counter-terrorism war.

nigeria has better experience in war with over 70,000 rebels/guerilla/insurgent forces in sierra leone and liberia, so we should be training south africa how to go back to CAR and defeat seleka rebels and how to reduce your casualties when you face M23 Congo rebels inside thick forest/jungle in case the rebels move bases into hiding.

the worst kind of war in the world is jungle warfare, and nigeria is world champion for that. get it ? yeah man !

nigerian army infantry....king of the jungle !
"Dr Gulube said that SANDF officers had been sent to
Brazil to train in jungle warfare ahead of the
deployment to the DRC, as the SANDF would
most definitely encounter jungle warfare
conditions" we have BRICS partners,we don't need help from Nigerians.for your info the ANC and other freedom fighters ran "terrorist" style bombing in SA during apartheid.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:48pm On Jul 05, 2013
huh
saengine: And your attacking Nigerian army will spread itself out evenly over 1.2 million square kilometres? Your own logistics will kill you before we even have to fire a single shot. Nigeria cannot attack SA, not today, not in 2014, not ever.
South Africa will be receiving new equipment like the Badger vehicle(deliveries) may start later this year,G7(105mm long range gun) and we might see the integration of the Torgos cruise missile into the Gripens. So Nigeria will invade with used warships from the USA?EEHHHH Ok undecided
saengine: And your attacking Nigerian army will spread itself out evenly over 1.2 million square kilometres? Your own logistics will kill you before we even have to fire a single shot. Nigeria cannot attack SA, not today, not in 2014, not ever.
South Africa will be receiving new equipment like the Badger vehicle(deliveries) may start later this year,G7(105mm long range gun) and we might see the integration of the Torgos cruise missile into the Gripens. So Nigeria will invade with used warships from the USA?EEHHHH Ok

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