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philfearon:
If IT: Chapter 2 hits it big this year, sure why not. After all, Jenkins wasn't a bigger shot than he is as at the time she was hired for WW!

sure. I hope the execs aint same with those under Kevin Tsujiahara though. And, n0t really a fan of IT.

hulk616:
to what?

posting on the 500th page.

Raalsalghul:
Mixed feelings on this one;

Philfearon, Iuwe, Thekingishere, Minemrys, Hulk616, BlackManta

if he is creative en0ugh, he should handle it. But the flash is a tricky character and am n0t sure he is much of a big name that wb would want to grant absolute creative freed0m to. Reminds me too much of Snyder. The yes man type. And that hasn't worked well with the other directors who walked out. N0ne wantd to play the yes man, bt am sure this guy does.

TheKingIsHere:
Arrgggghhh!!! You beat me to posting this news.

I am so happy for Ezra as DC gives him the opportunity to continue as the flash. He has been rewarded for his dedication and how he avoided joining the bandwagon in bashing the company.

Am impressed with the new direction DC is heading by giving these roles to horror movie directors. This will be the 4th horror movie director DC gives the go ahead with it films.

From the write up, the film is likely to go into pre production next year January. If this happens, then we might get a flash movie by 2021, 2022 or 2023.

Great time to be a DC fan

bros, b4 u go frolicking warner's ass, take s0me time to questi0n how vast the director is with the source material and if his directorial vision works for the film or he's just a director for hire that is a push over. Mind u, Chris Terrio is an Oscar n0minated writer, but the media says he wrote Justice League.

Hulk616, how dare u beat me to it?

pu7pl3:
Who is popping the champagne for 500 pages? hulk616 iuwe TheKingIsHere Minemrys Raalsalghul BlackManta...the rest I can't remember their usernames

philfearon, xavier, tonyspike, mjbolt, laurene, afobear, vic2ree, xabrina, and many m0re.

What's with the name calling guys?

geedot:
Zidane easy na!
Zidane performed awesomely without signing a single major player in his first tenure. Can only imagine what that bald headed got in store for Barça and the rest of Europe.
Very wise man, he knows one man can never cover up for Ronaldo. Hazard, Jovic and Mane should provide a good alternative!

brother, are u high on sleeping pills? Mane is going n0where. Not n0w. Klopp is smart and i d0n't think Lfc and him have any interest in Madrid players. So d0n't act faster than the speed of thought. We are LIVERPOOL and Mane is part of it.

Hulk616, Pu7pl, Topmaike...hope u see what ur people are doing? Tempting our players and coach. After Salah, n0w Manè. Zidane should go and sleep.

emmy2807:
FINALLY, someone understands what it felt like watching avengers endgame.

lol.

hulk616:
bookmarked

lol. Na bet9ja?

Hulk619:
Minemrys, thekingishere, Blackmanta PLEASE tell your guys to unban me

nawa oh! Sorry sha. Am guessing thekingishere is behind it. He's a hacker lol. What u have to do is c0nfess...

pu7pl3:
Hahahahahaha really? Bruh,nobody here believes that...you use the internet,im sure you have read about all the speculations for WW JOKER and BATMAN...even birds of prey that is a really low budget movie is gathering excitement...i remember you telling TheKingIsHere to send you the leaked WW pic cos you were hyped so cut the bullshiit bruh

We gats stick together here...fvck snyder and his cuts...he is gone and the future holds better

i hope the future is as u say. I really miss the days when dc films reflected issues in the society and had a message in them. Watched the Tdk trilogy only to realise dc has regressed since MOS. Ww was n0thing special, jl was there, aquaman was mediocre, shazam was just for laughs. I miss the days when u could l0ok back and quote the philosophical realities in dc films. U remember batman begins and the quote "why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves bk up again", stuffs like that. U remember TDK and remember the line "am like a dog chasing cars, wouldn't kn0w what to do with one even if i caught it" to explain the mind of a psychotic murderer. I miss those. N0w, its just fun, pop corn flicks.

pu7pl3:
Seriously i dont think its complicated...atall

His depature was like a breath of fresh air actually and now people anticipate DCEU movies with more excitement

which people? What dceu m0vies? Are u speaking of just ww84 or what? I d0n't see the hype man. Am n0t even hyped.

pu7pl3:
Wb did not mess with anybody...you love snyder i get it but man fvcked up after many oppurtunities....he can direct and has really good imagination but its hard for him to summarize those ideas in a movie without scattering himself allover the place...like someone said maybe he should switch to tv series where he really can express himself

0ne day u all will understand what am saying.

pu7pl3:
The same WB that has soomany billion dollar movie franchises or is there another one

The lengths yall go to twist this narrative is astounding...snyder fvcked BVS and justice league up its not hard to grasp

aside the hp and lotr franchise, what other franchises were there? And mind u, it was chris columbus who came up with the idea for a Hp film and Rowling had lots of say in them. As for lotr, peter jacks0n was a proven director wb couldn't mess with.

Skseries:
the Lucifer title made me not to be interested, Lucifer on Earth to live with humans didn't even interest me one bit

here c0mes the religious fanatics unable to separate fact fr0m ficti0n.

TheKingIsHere:
Yes, it is a small budget when compared to the $300m budget for BVS or $300m+ budget for JL.

Also, Zack Snyder was virtually above all other directors as he was in charge of most DCEU films and had a say before he was sacked. That's why at a point it was called Synder verse. Even when he wasn't the director of suicide squad (he was an executive producer), he directed some scenes for the movie.

As for the last paragraph, I have posted and explained the films that failed under synder. If you can't still understand, then sorry, it ain't my fault.

name the scenes pls aside the ezra miller cameo that david ayer asked for at the time snyder was still sh0oting jl. And it was only called snyderverse cos of MOS and then BvS wb forced on him.

TheKingIsHere:
So he was being the yes man continuosly for 10years because he wanted to feed his family? That's now the excuse? Other directors that left immediately after creative differences didn't have family to feed abi?

Minemrys, the way you dey fabricate excuse for this guy eh, I hail.

Ask those who struggle to find a directing gig for 10years that question.

TheKingIsHere:
He didn't have creative freedom in watchmen yet he stayed, he didnt have creative freedom again in BVS yet he stayed again. He didn't have creative freedom in JL yet he stayed until WB fired him. What does that tell you?

Either Zack Snyder loves creative bondage or he has a phobia of proving himself elsewhere before the sack

directing films are much harder than landing acting gigs. There really aren't much choices unless u have the m0ney. The only way the man could feed his family was be the Yes man and hope he could at the end of the day prove himself. Do u kn0w how many directors are in hollywo0d lo0king for jobs? And there really aren't auditi0ns fr0m studios in search 4 directors like it is with acting. All they pray and hope for is a chance or a loan to start a project.

Skseries:
ppl act like Snyder is the only direct WB employ, James wan and jakens don't have this issues now even Shazam director, just admit it synder doesnt give them confidence to let them give him full control of project

exactly the point am trying to make. Snyder really hasn't proven himself with a small budget film to his own credit. And that's his career suicide. That's why his work gets hacked to pieces. Jenkins and Wan and N0lan on the other hand have proven themselves with small budget indie films. Jenkins has w0n an Oscar, Wan is loved by the critics cos he managed to create his style independently and N0lan is an arthouse director. Snyder has talent bt hasn't proven himself with an original work. All he's d0ne are adaptati0ns. And when u work or start with adaptati0ns in ur resumè, no studio would have c0nfidence on ur story telling capability or style. Every0ne has said numerous times that snyder has great talent. N0lan said it, James cameron, Amy adams said it but what he hasn't is the c0nfidence and chance to prove it. How would he when the critics keep c0mparing the c0ntents of his work with a previous franchise i.e MOS or the studio keep rushing him and changing their plans and being too m0ney c0nscious. Had Disney being WB, the Mcu would've been reb0oted after thor, incredible hulk and captain america. Chris evans would've been dropped ala Henry Cavill, and a thor film sequel would've been in limbo.

TheKingIsHere:
Just read what you wrote. SMH

Zack Snyder didn't have creative freedom yet he was with WB for 10years. What stopped him from moving forward when he noticed he didn't have that so called creative freedom excuse?

if he had creative freed0m, why were his films, watchmen, bvs, jl sliced to pieces?

TheKingIsHere:
The studio can make decisions whenever it deemed fit as they run business not sentiments.

Disney dropped star wars9 director over creative differences, there was no pronounced fuse. In fact, Disney has a record for dropping its star wars directors, but you will never heat a fuse about it. Only synder fans make fuse about everything just to snap back at WB

are u WB's PR pers0n or what? Am n0t fusing abt wb in general. The argument was on studios having m0re c0ntrol on their films than directors are made to be. And i made visible my points menti0ning Marc Webb and Sam Raimi who worked for Sony Pictures. Go read my points again. Its business and politics c0mbined bt in many ways, m0st directors' career go down the line if they don't prove themselves with their own independent films.

TheKingIsHere:
Famuyiwa left because he couldnt give what was wanted. WB wanted a dark flash movie and famuyiwa was providing a comedy.

So it is reasonable why they had to drop him as he couldnt give them what they wanted

so who has c0ntrol on studio m0vies then? And why didn't wb c0nfirm this to famuyiwa prior to employing him? And pls, its n0t like famuyiwa hasn't made a dark film b4. He made Dope. That wasn't a c0medy. So, it's m0re than that.

SMUAG:
Haha. Zack was never the problem, WB is. Zack's previous movies before dceu ( aside Sucker punch) were great, even MoS was far a superior movies than what other companies put on the big screen. But because WB wanted to count their chicken before they were hashed cause everything. Still BvS: Extended edition was well grounded despite the rush.
All the easter eggs work put in MoS was to set the pace for the sequel or next movie in the right path, and not to rush things, but the greedy producers wanted more than that. So we should leave Zack out of it.
Just look at our pathetic Captain Marvel was yet it was certified fresh. Can we honestly say that Captain Marvel is a better movie than MoS or BvS: Extended? The answer is NO!
When your house is divided you will definitely attract rodents to feast there...

exactly, what i was saying, left to snyder, he wouldn't have made bvs. The studio wanted a universe, and wb slapped in fr0nt of him batman vs superman. Russel crowe said it. Bvs was never intended fr0m the get go. Had MOS made 1bill like Avengers did, we would've seen MOS 2 with Jor el back and bruce wayne at the end with the introducti0n of krypt0nite. But wb needed the cash. Ask urselves, does snyder have the m0ney to decide he'll make a Bvs film on his l0nes0me? Goyer hinted at it. But snyder is the fall guy cos the in studio shenanigans aren't reported cos of NDA. Why do u think jared leto was pissed with the final cut of suicide squad? Or why did SS director go to make a hit after it with Bright an indie film? Snyder's mistake was n0t improving his resumè with independent films of his own. He jumped into studio films.

TheKingIsHere:
Well, I believe that the only person that has a higher authority than the director is the company/studio itself. The producer doesn't really have a say on how the film should go, he only oversees mostly the financial part. Like hiring, getting a director, script writer, budget financing etc

Unless the film producer is well renowned (e.g James Cameron etc), then they can affect the direction of the film, as the studio will give a listening ear to his complaints

oga, stop c0nfusing yourself. If a studio wants to make a film fr0m a script they have faith in, and they hire a director, they hand to him laid down rules and patterns to follow. He doesn't possess total c0ntrol over the final product. Why? The studio if they d0n't trust the director like they would people like N0lan and Spielberg, would n0t give the director creative freed0m. The executive producer is a representative of the studio and in turn the financer. He has powers depending on who the director is. If the studio trusts the director, the executive producer would just act as a m0nitor to see if things go according to budget. But if the studio doesn't trust the director, the exec influences the story and script. Why? The studio owns the film and the director. But in the case where the director wants to produce a film fr0m his m0ney, he has all the c0ntrol he wants. But in a studio film, c0ntrol is dependent on trust. Or why do u hear directors c0mplain of their films being deleted, their lack of input in their own films when they work for studios? E.g marc webb, and James wan even did menti0n of it at the early stage of his career.

Nickshrapnel:
I thought as much, but I've heard of situations whereby a director left a project because he wasn't given much creative control. The people who didn't give that creative control are the producers so I think the director dance to the tune of the producer/production company

in a studio film, the studio has the highest authority. In this case, the director is only hired just like the actor. But in an indie film [independent film], the director finances the m0vie and takes blame for everything cos he owns the film. Hence, u rarely hear things like directors owning films like spiderman, superman etc produced by studios. There are excepti0ns in cases like spielberg, n0lan and directors who've proven themselves as independent power houses.

TheKingIsHere:
The director is to be blamed because he is the one responsible for every decision made while shooting the film. And if the dialogue or script isn't favorable or working, he has the power to change it.

m0st of them barely have creative freed0m in the case of a studio film. Google sam raimi vs s0ny pictures [the spiderman 3 saga] and why rick famuyiwa had to leave the flash film. M0st times their decisi0ns are overhauled, end up getting cut or them working as yes men for the executives.

hulk616:
if the movie is 100% fantastic like ENDGAME that will not be a problem. but maybe WB execs slept off multiple times and later decided the movie was trash

ogbeni, endgame has its m0ments bt trust me, there were m0ments where one just thought could've been skipped.

TheKingIsHere:
You dont seem to get the point. Avatar, titanic, TDK, TDKR and co, their plot and story was understood and people could relate to it.

Synder on the other hand, even if you give him 10 hours to tell a story, most people will still not understand what he is trying to tell.

I give him credit for great visuals, but he sacrifices a good story at the expense of great visuals only.

Thats why most of his films are always having the same complaint of bad storyline, people not being able to relate with the characters/protagonists etc

what u are trying to say is, you d0n't understand man of steel. And u don't undastand bruce's reas0ning for battling clark or vice versa? Then how c0me u find it easier to understand why a grown man would want to kill a child that wasn't even a threat after being granted powers in shazam? Or why a kid who had signs of the 7 sins in him would be pure of heart to bec0me champi0n or why the wizard hadn't chosen either of the other kids earlier? C0me on, let's nitpick. Or heck, why didn't aquaman go calling supes when he wanted to bale on the war?

pu7pl3:
TDK and TDKR were not up to 3hrs like BVS...even interstellar didnt hit the 3hr mark but they still did their jobs of telling a great story in the shortest amount of time possible,let us call it as it is bro yea BVS was successfull commercially but it was successful BELOW EXPECTATION cos of how bland and rushed the story felt despite the viewer having the feeling of sitting through a slow slugfest(that feeling is almost like torture believe me) ...my question is why cant snyder do that (tell a good and compelling story with great pacing and less time like other good directors)why is he always complaining about his directors cut every goddamn time?

it was bvs' theatric versi0n people had problems with mind u. And it wasn't a 3 hour film. The ultimate cut though was the 3 hour film and had a coherent storyline. People undast0od the m0vie better with the 3 hour film. Why u folks failed to undastand bvs was that, he did what wb asked for; build a c0nnected universe. And that, he did by setting up stories that would've been told in other films to c0nnect the universe i.e death of robin, death of superman, steppenwolf and the boxes, injustice, flashpoint. He wanted setting the story arcs just like marvel did with than0s but a coherent c0ntinuity. Things didn't work out cos wb were in a hurry.

hulk616:
who hiding ? hulk cant hide.
i have not started watching jessica jones yet, i m still watching daredevil S3, Punisher S2, Legion, and many MARVEL COMICBOOKS

u can't stand j0nes ryt?