₦airaland Forum

kumbhuru:
An employer wants to offer only COS(nursing) No visa fee and flight. Please how much is both in naira? To know if I should reject or accept.

Visas and flights have always been your responsibility. An employer may decide to advance you the funds then claw it back from your salary.
See if thats an option.
Nurses used to get a golden handshake,I think.

justwise:
What is wrong with that?

Too harsh but they owe her nothing. This is for people who argue that she can claim Bangladeshi citizenship. She can't.

Goodenoch:
Legal aid and the cab rank rule are two different systems. The conditions with the cab rank rule make it essentially an ideal rather than reality, despite what the Bar Council would have you think.

-I would have thought both systems worked together to ensure everyone has experienced legal representation however shallow their pockets are.

- I was a foolish 15yr old at one time. I held some narrowminded views at that time.The brain does not fully develop till your early 20s. She made those choices but noone can say she had full capacity. The consequences are too dire . We havent even tried deradicalisation and rehab.

- Some of the people on this thread have 15 Yr olds. You are a lucky parent if you can place your hand over your heart and swear that your 15 Yr old daughter has enough critical thinking to remain adamant in the face of peer pressure.

- Every family has 1 blacksheep. You all got the same training but in at least 1 of you,it didn't take. Shall we blame your parents then? But 5 other children are highfliers. Some children are just naughty and won't listen.

- I get yearly training on deradicalisation as part of mandatory training. Radicalisation is a systemic issue . If I was the UK, I would be looking into how they got access to her, who else is affected. Banning her hasn't solved the problem and is a tad performative.

- Realistically, being her neighbour is the safest you can be . It's a win win. If she is indeed a hard-core bad woman, she ll never bomb her home. If she isn't a terrorist, then she won't bomb it either


I m here all morning, people. Come and fight. Bolekaja! ( I hope that means come down and fight)

Gosh ,i havent got a clue. I ll recuse myself . Maybe others may have a clue.

Ogeneigbo1:
Good day everyone.

I just got admission for a pre masters program ( path way program )

program is just for 3 months before the main masters

Please I wish to know the advantages and disadvantages of such program.

I feel is good I seek advice from experienced people here before I make any move

cc justwise
Lexusgs430
descarado
ReesheesuKnack
missjekyll
Other experienced UK residents

Thank you.

Lexusgs430:
At least we the taxpayers, are fully funding her massive legal cost.......... 🤣😂

Her lawyer's would keep milking this cow........ 🐄🐮🤣

Everybody has a right to good legal representation. Legal aid is Beans and actually does some good compared to the billions the government has now wasted on Rwanda and PPE.


Unlike in the US, where public defenders are crap, I hear they operate a taxi rank system here where Barristers are not allowed to turn down a case so long as they are next in line.
I love Europe!there was joined up thinking going on at some point in this country .

1. She was born here, never been to Bangladesh in her life. She was radicalised in the UK at 15 years old ie a child. Why does the UK get to export this frankenstein that they nurtured? I say bring her home ,investigate her part in IS and throw her in jail.

2. Bangladesh has said she will face the death penalty if she enters the country. She is now stateless. The UK knew that removing her citizenship would make her stateless and did it anyway.

3. I am a bit worried as it appears there are 2 tiers of citizenship. An irrevocable and a revocable one.
How many generations down the line will my offspring have to be to acquire this irrevocable citizenship.

These are the 3 major arguments i have heard against the government's position.I havent read her lawyers argument so there may be more.It's a Landmark case and will likely get to the Supreme Court.

I haven't addressed "supporting terrorism" as I believe its too easy to disprove that theory.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/23/what-happens-to-shamima-begum-now-and-what-are-her-legal-options?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

I scratched my head after reading this in consternation.

You did say you visit the UK .

Every single thing you listed is here in the UK.
You say economic migrant like its a bad thing. *shrugs

SavageResponse:
My bad, I only just realised I strayed into the thread for economic migrants (UK Branch)

While we're at it I hope you guys remember to visit Nigeria occasionally so you can get some natural Vitamin D from the sun and eat real Nigerian delicacies such as...
suya,
efo riro,
ofe onugbu,
amala ati ewedu
nkwobi,
gbegiri
ofe nsala garnished with mangala fish
point and kill,
bush meat
African salad
akara
moin-moin
masa
akamu
okpa with a bottle of Coke
ewa agoyin ati Agege bread

I know some of you are already salivating

Too bad, continue eating your chicken and chips, burger, spaghetti with sauce that does not contain pepper and the rest of the tasteless oyinbo food

ReesheesuKnack:
Was this how Zimbabweans felt it in those days in 2008?

You log in to transfer 20£ to your aburo. It’s 40,000 naira.

Between the time it takes your phone to refresh, the same £20 has now become 46,500 naira.

That is an ‘increase’ of 6,500 in a few minutes…

E be like say Tinubu & Cardoso dey carry us go where we no know.

Gosh this is terrible.
Everyday,I feel like lamenting on the streets. What are we going to do?

https://www.gov.uk/marriages-civil-partnerships/from-outside-the-uk-or-ireland

There you go

Soraco57:
Good morning, please I have have used my 6 months visa and have 2 years current valid UK visa and also a resident in an EU country, I have a fiancé in the UK on skilled visa who has travelled to UK since last April now I want to join her, how can I go to UK to join her as dependent, we are not married yet and am single , we have seen many times when I visited UK , can I get married to her in the UK or can I get married to her in Lithuania, or which way is the best as I don’t want to go Nigeria to get married for now to save costs, all information is welcomed, thanks

Dude,just give it up. You will not be left until you tender a heartfelt apology to the OP. None of this "dont think too much of it" rubbish. You should have read through to learn how we address one another even in the heat of the argument .

We want to see a "My sincere apologies. I was being silly and wont do that again".

Otherwise ,just leave this thread for the polite inhabitants. My people,no be so? or am I being mean?

SavageResponse:
Did I say anywhere that I live in the UK or that I have plans to relocate there?

I have never written IELTS in my life and I have no plans of doing so, I only visit Europe and return to Nigeria

Anytime you see me in Europe or America on a permanent basis just know that Nigeria is already on fire (But we all know that's not gonna happen)

Another much better property, is always around the corner.........

I did need to hear this. Thank you

Vinnie2000:
Under this Useless tinubu/APC govt, Babies go soon eat Madiga or Kpokpogari.

Mgbaduga

How rude.

I see people have been having several goes at you, Professor.

I wonder what your IELTS band was. Even 9.5s are not this rude. Gosh

SavageResponse:
So after spending time in the UK you still write this type of tautological grammar

The proper word is Lend, when you're giving out you're Lending hence the proper grammar should be " Lent them almost 10K..."

GIVE . Dont lend.
Thats the point I was making.

jedisco:
Hehe.. all this advice sef

Most folks who came in last year via the care route was via the support of their family here. I've come across families who are long and well established in the West. Ask how, and it was almost always by lifting themselves.

In the end, there are no hard and fast rules to life. I hardly lend folks money but on certain things, I make exceptions. For many, helping a sibling come over and get established would ultimately mean more to them than thousands stashed away and being the only one giving freebies. Ultimately, it's for each to know their root and what they can forgo as sad stories also exist.

Oh dear. Come and take a hug. Its especially difficult when its your brother. If it was a cousin,you can kick them out and damn the consequences.

I would go with having a very frank discussion. Bring out all your bills and show them. Tell them what you want them to pay. No arguments. Set boundaries, eg ", this thing you just used and threw away, I wanted to use it.can you please not do that anymore ?",

Also ask if you need help with the baby. Not everyone's maternal to know without asking.

When we have short term guests we don't care to set boundaries. But if they are staying longer, then we do need to have these boundaries in order not to feel put upon.


This advice is general : DO NOT lend anybody money to come over. Give what you can spare and tell them you haven't got any money.
People have stopped talking to me over this policy but hey-ho



As to

ToshoTosin:
Borrowed them almost 10K to process their coming. My husband and i told them they could stay with us for a while since its difficult to get apartments from Nigeria.
Any advise will be appreciated.
I'm curious to find out how long did family stay with you guys untill they got their place. Maybe we're being too fast. Lol.

GanagiBitrus:
A Lion is always a dangerous animal. Since it is already caged, all you need is to improve your safety procedures in handling lions.

Let me direct you to Google

GanagiBitrus:
The Lion is already caged.

Euthanasia is applicable to cases like where a dog kills a human.
Since dogs live with humans, such dog is killed.
A lion doesn't live with humans. It is always caged so no need to kill it.

This is wrong. Any animal that kills a human being is killed. No exceptions. They have become dangerous. Same way the government closes down fake ogogoro shops

Yes. You cannot be boasting about something shameful like not voting.

Nonvoters vote for the party in power. I m holding you responsible 100% for this messy crap

T9ksy:
Abeg, STFU Jo!
Abi which kind nonsense is this? "I must vote" , ke?
You now want to abrogate my fundamental rights in a democratic setting. Na by force?

Dude. Dont sit at home next time. Register to vote and vote. You are an adult ,now.

Act like it.


NB ; note that i haven't told you who to vote for but you must vote.

T9ksy:
Haba! Your election loss still dey pain you, seriously. OK, Pele o. You still have another 7 yrs of wailing & cursing ahead of you so, may I suggest, you pace yourself before you burn out or burse an artery?

Yes, I have food for today and the rest of the week. Thanks. You nko?

Enough with the name calling even though I have no intention of getting into the gutters with you or your irk.

Election has come and gone but you are still here cursing people who didn't participate in your sham election , simply because your principal lost.

Una go soon enter market, naked.

Have you read this link at all. Nothing in this link allows you to do this.


Why am i dragging this? This thread comes in the top Google searches for issues affecting Nigerians in the UK. I wouldn't want any of our people to get the wrong impression that this is okay to do to people or to have it done to them

Viruses:
Yes...I could be silent about it and mention it in references, after all I am not supposed to withhold information I think should be useful to the body requesting the reference.

I agree that vast majority of employers stick to the template you have mentioned just as vast majority of employers request references from previous not current employment. So this also could be one of the minor cases where an employer could decide to go detailed and bring up minor but valid and variable issues.

You are just all over the place. Arguing in a disjointed manner. You sure have a lot of opinions for an invertebrate who sat at home and let the worst of society vote in a kakistocracy.

You have food today, how about tomorrow? Do you have fuel? How much you give agbero today?

T9ksy:
Yeah, I didn't vote because among ither reasons, I know my vote wouldn't count. We have never had a free and fair election in that country, so why would 2019 be any different.

Obviously, you must be an obidient - sore loser! No one voted tinubu for me as no one voted Peter Obi on my behalf.

Yeah, I have money for food tomorrow. Thanks for your concern. How about you? Have eaten anything since yesterday? Honestly speaking, I don't give a hoot...........

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Viruses:
I did not mean I will fabricate things against you. As an employer, I can easily pick up things I could ordinarily overlook and use it against you in referencing and it will be justifiable.

No,you can't.

You won't know you've committed certain blunders that I overlooked until you take me to court and I present evidence.

That aside, what do you mean by the bolded? Will the employee take over the company if he wins?

I mean damages. They can get a nice chunk of change from you

Misogynist.

michlins:
that makes it even worse. Women can be very overbearing with their accomplishments

madfind:
Its my first time seeing this, or they just whining us

Living under a rock, have we?

Reverse psychology. You know we dont play.

femisplash:
In a very terse statement, you can't give what you don't have. Can southeast pull off a national protest?, do they have the dog in them to fight?, i honestly do not think so. When Prof. Yusuf Usman was asked why the SE are not talking(joining in protests), his response was that he didn't know. Maybe truly, maybe he was being sarcastic, however, historical antecedents and pattern of events have shown quite revealingly that SE has never been a forceful region to gather a momentum for a nationwide protest with an end product for change and national redirection. SE are more docile and submissive, more often than not, they needed a push from other regions to set them on the tangent. Since 1960, all major protests, never had any been ignited in the east. 1987 Ali must go, 1993 democratic movement, 1988 Anti-SAP, 2012 subsidy protest, 2020 End SARS, were either brewed from the SW, SS or North. To be candid, asking SE to talk is a weight a bit too much for them, they're much a less forceful region in Nigeria.

Sitting at home was a vote in itself. For Tulumbu. You are responsible for this mess and should accept it with your full chest.

They do not have anything to offer blahblahblah bleatbleatbleat yenyenyen. You stayed at home and they voted tombo for you.

Let this be a lesson to you, Elections have consequences. We freaked around,now we are finding out.
Hope you have money for food tomorrow.

T9ksy:
Where in my post did I tell you, am a Batist. You assume too quickly that every yorubaman voted for Tinubu as it transpired in your region with Obi.

I also knew that tinubu is not the messiah , neither is atiku or Peter Obi. Consequently, I didn't bother to validate their sham election with my vote. I did not vote for Tinubu in the last election and neither did I ever vote for buhari in his 2 tenures.

As a yoruba man, I knew emilokan is not going to aso rock in my interest or Nigerians in general but for his own self aggrandizement. Incidentally, none of those moro.ns straddling our political sphere (as leaders) have anything positive to offer Nigerians, either.

We would appreciate a very long period of silence from you, please. Thank you

In less than 1 year ,even more people have been driven into poverty in Nigeria by this nonentity with your full support.

Obviously you have abysmal judgement and should not be trusted. Sit Down , sir.

Wainey:
Everyone should join the protest, forget political affiliations.
In a democratic govt, everyone will not support ur candidate.
When things goes bad, we should come together and Savage the situation, stop reminding us who put us in the mess just because they exercise their democratic rights. Your candidate may not have done better

I believe lexus posted this link
https://www.gov.uk/work-reference

It's probably best not to apply any sort of Nigerian logic to things here. What you just described is illegal here as any bad reference must be backed up by hard evidence. If your employee sues you, they ll never have to work again.

Viruses:
If I take the risk of bringing you in on sponsorship, training you on the job etc and then you come to me for reference to go to another company, that thing that gave you the mind to come for the reference will give me the mind to scatter it for you too 😀😀😀.

Your best bet is use your friend in the company for the reference, not the HR or MD.

You have it backwards. Its in Nigeria that you have no power as a minority . If you are feeling helpless here, its because you do not know all the ways you can seek redress.

Luckily for us, nearly everything here is googleable.

Viruses:
In Nigeria, you tribalise me I tribalise you, you discriminate me based on race I return the energy a hundred fold. But here, if you discriminate me racially, what will I do? I then become vulnerable and that is the difference.

And for the records, we are trying to fight tribalism in Nigeria.

bukatyne:
Mrs. Facebook

So it should be Dr. (Mrs.) Facebook

Would be redundant in that sentence as I mentioned she is a doctor.
I haven't seen that Dr (Mrs) designation for nearly a decade. Literally nobody cares what sex their doctor is. They just want to get better.

englishmart:
The wife of a white billionaire, Beyonce always dresses half-naked. While Mark Zuckerberg's wife is always decent and beautiful

Even with money, black women always have to sexualize themselves.

Why do black women love sexualizing themselves?

Mrs Facebook is a medical doctor. Beyonce is a singer. There lies the difference

Oh no, i didnt fight it at all.
I wasnt as strong as I am today. Thats one thing Nigeria does to you. Nigeria perpertrates psychological violence on its citizens. You feel like a nobody with no options. Its like being in an abusive relationship.

Zahra29:
Nice comment

Re the bolded, would be interesting to hear responses to this.

I'm also curious - when you were in Nigeria and you experienced or witnessed tribalism, did you or others react against it? And what did this reaction look like - speaking out, reporting the offender, drawing attention to it, campaigns etc...