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pes2019:
You are carrying out test of existence, without knowing it source or origin.

Death is a reality, have you tested it.


Note: Try to find out the source, that's the difference

The origin of religion stem from the fact that people of old times find it very difficult to accept, "we don't know" or "we don't know yet" as a satisfactory answer to an elusive question. They prefer to just make up something and accept it as the answer. So not knowing the origin of something should not push you to make up an answer or much worse belive a made up answer. It is more intellectually healthy to accept "I don't yet know" as a satisfactory answer.

OKOATA:
I have an astronomy video, the astronaut was videoing how angels were flying across the surface of the earth with the speed of light. I tried looking for the video on YouTube but it has been deleted. Seeing those angels flying gives me that much believe that God exists.

Hahaha, this is sarcasm right? Even 5 year old kids around here would feel this is a scene from a movie and not real life.

pes2019:
You are carrying out test of existence, without knowing it source or origin.

Death is a reality, have you tested it.


Note: Try to find out the source, that's the difference

I see people die everyday and you still ask me if I have tested it? Does one need to fall in front of a moving vehicle before he understands that it capable of causing grievous harm?

Eagleboney:
Bro ,probably God exists ,people are just anxious to see him one on one before they believe

Lol why do you use probably? What if I told you "probably superman exists" won't you ask me, "on what basis?", "have you seen superman before?" and so many other questions.

Eagleboney:
U don't believe that there is God,one of the Greatest scientist Charles Darwin believed God existing

Lol it doesn't matter. Even Isaac Newton Belived there was God. But it is on records today that over 90% of members of academy of science are atheists. And we are both sure that they are more knowledgeable than Charles Darwin and Isaac Newton because knowledge evolves. Admittedly they haven't had as much impact as these two.

pes2019:
Don't be offended

Between man and water, which one exist first also
Between man and air


Have this in mind while answering those questions.
equipments were created to carry those test of reality

Lol it is commonsenical to note that water existed before man. No, I am not offended. Intellectual discussions like this give me cerebral orgasm coupled with the paucity of people available to discuss them with in my day to day.

Eagleboney:
Shake hand

I shake you too bro. Confirm

NuissancePolice:
I have created a thread and I would appreciate constructive responses to the issues raised. Lets not derail this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5669521/why-there-no-single-objective#86382455

Cc: hooha, GeniusOla, Haltek, Benflash, hafeezsemzy. Your inputs will be appreciated.

Briskroque enter this link make we argue. Lol

pes2019:
Sir let the discussion be on common real things.

Is water real
Is air real

Note: we are conversant with d above

Water is real because if we don't drink water for a month, we would die. Air, though we can't see it is very much real same with infrared Ray's but they are very much testable in the laboratory and their properties determined. The person that first hypothesized their existence came up with testable facts unlike the person that first introduced us to our various religions. He stated the concepts of the religion with no testable facts to support but expects us to "just believe" so there is a huge difference.

Another thing Christians and people of all other religion need to realize today is that there are so many concepts in their holy books that are borrowed from ancient religions that were in existence before theirs. Even crucial as the birth of Jesus. There was the sun god whose birth story is in close resemblance to the birth of Jesus. And these manuscripts date back before the birth of Jesus. It shouldn't come to you as a surprise that your long held believes were all made up from past stories and white wash to foster wide acceptance.

pes2019:
If one doesn't believe in God, what belief does such have.
One must believe in sth, I want to know what it is?

Why must one believe in something. What if someone came to you today and tells you to believe in superman, won't you ask him "on what basis?" Like why must you belive in superman or any super hero at all for that matter since they are just stories that have no real life basis. That is essentially how we see being forced to belive in God or any religion for that matter.

NuissancePolice:
I believe in the big bang, evolution, quantum mechanics and relativity.

I believe in things that are real. God is not real.

It is as simple as that. I don't understand why someone will come and belive in something I have not experienced ever. Nothing more than an hypothesis that has no logical basis. All because someone told someone that told someone to tell him. Smh

The proponents of a particular religion find it very easy to dismiss the religions of others as made up(and they are correct) but it is very difficult for them to see that theirs is made up. It's an irony caused by indoctrination.

Most Christians in Nigeria today, if they were born somewhere in the middle east, there is a high chance that they'll be muslims. It is as simple as that.

The origin and fate of the universe(and its content, earth inclusive) as contained in various religions book should be discarded as the horizon of reasoning of early men and can not stand in the light of modern knowledge.

Also the miracles contained in the various religious book, eg. Those purportedly executed by Jesus in the bible have not been replicated in a controlled and monitored environment. All efforts to do so have either being based on tricky or resulted in failure.

Stories abound of steadfast believers attempting to handle deadline snakes and animals according to the bible have only resulted in them being injured or redering them dead.

Miracles of the dead being raised have ALL being observed to be made up using clever implementations to trick unsuspecting followers. The same goes for healing the sick. The list goes on.

Good move Nuisancepolice. I'm atheist and I like this discussion.

NuissancePolice:
I have created a thread and I would appreciate constructive responses to the issues raised. Lets not derail this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5669521/why-there-no-single-objective#86382455

Cc: hooha, GeniusOla, Haltek

Oh interesting.

JB01:
So 'what' do you believe in?

Lool. It should be clear enough from my post. I don't believe the claims of any religion after I re-examined the one I grew up in and others. I am atheist, if that is what you want to hear.

And NO, an atheist is not someone that is angry with "God" because without these religions we won't be speaking of "God" in the first place. An atheist is simply someone that doesn't approve of the claims of any religion contrary to what lots of people think.

To add a further note, the etymology of the word: A-theist, which means negation of theist I.e. opposite of theist. A theist is someone that believes in a particular religion. So an atheist is simply one that doesn't believe in any religion.

Speaking of religion, as intellectuals, we should always be open to re-examine our long held believes no matter how attached we feel to them. We should always be sceptical.

The fact that a book tells you a person existed at so-so time and did so-so thing does not mean you should believe it. Test this things in the light of modern knowledge and historical events to be sure. Not just for the sake of "feeling spiritual". This people could have had ulterior motives before pushing it down the throats of our forefathers.

For the records. I'm not affiliated to any religion whatsoever. I freed myself from it after I reexamine my believes. I looked like I would never be able to do without it at the start but now, I'm glad I freed myself.

Nnpccourtcase:
Oga Panalyst, your boys are humble.

panalyst abeg say something

I don't know what level of f##lishness this is. Your friend in office told you she has seen APL. Rather than ask her to screenshot first to be sure, you came out here to strangers to confirm. Mscheew. In fact I vote for curse for this kind of f##lishness next time.

hillaboi:
That she was extremely busy to send de screenshot. we chatted via ofix skype. Apparently, de mail dropped in her private mail which should be on phone. I doubted as well that's why I quckly came in here to confirm...

Chatting via ofix system now too.

Is Beaam your friend?

This thing don dey clear for my mind before dem talk say naa last week or this week. So if this week pass and e no show abeg make una let this thing kuku clear for our mind. Make e show when e wan show. To focus for the software development wey I bin dey try learn kon dey hard person.

Briskroque:
Coincidentally saw a staff I met during the interview, today.

In his words; Bros make una prime unaselves sha, that Una Level go drop next week, still button your contact sha.

Me: Baba I don forget this thing(big lie), I think say people don go training already

Him: No way, just be hopeful, It takes more than Intellect, if it’s yours it’s yours

Then I thought of Ighalo
Then I thought of Grace

Brace yourselves Babylonians

Abeg if this week pass without APL, we no wan hear any info again abeg. Una no dey taya?

Nnpccourtcase:
This wahala is too much, I just want to focus on other thing but my spirit refuses. Sometimes I even regret applying for this job because it causes me a lot of pain and also blocks my other opportunities on something that I don't have certainty. But whatever I remember that God is always there and he may surprise us I fell extremely happy.

Please house just to calm my nerves, what is the probability of someone getting this job without connection?

At the rate this thing is going, the probability of anyone even getting this job at all is 1/9(=0.1111...). And the probability of someone getting it without connection is 0.5. Since these two are independent events we multiply(0.11...×0.5) to arrive at 0.0555... which is approx 5.56%.

GeNeRaToRBoi:
so i got three days ban for mentioning someone moniker......., Welldone Ki.........Ki......

Hahaha. This one pass curse oo

BenFlash:
BUM sounds much better

You can pronounce it twice for a sub woofer effect

Haha. We need to smuggle cococo and klassd in somehow.

Xzbit91:
Someone is lurking in the shadows, waiting to pounce if this information fails to materialise

Lool I don't just understand why some people enjoy negative news like sharwarma

PreshelD:
So I can finally post here...Is the Lord not wonderful??

Thanks so much guys for keeping this thread active. Although I have not been able to post but the ongoings on this thread have been a wonderful way to relax these past weeks(although, with my heart racing).

Mafo...Las las, we all go dey alright!

And I was expecting a powerful corroborating message after read the first line. Sigh.

inrainbows:
amen oh. I pity anyone who misbehaves after this. If they do moogoogaipan has the right to curse cos warning has been issued. I repeat nobody should tag me part of MIB oh

Ok who will now take your place in the "I" of MIB?

We have finally found the antidote to foolishness on this thread. Curse is a time tested antidote

Teaser4:
I wan ask who be the fool wey liked this post...I con remember say dem dey online..

Beaam you need help

Hahaha. Naa Wetin enter my mind self. I don't understand how someone who has been screened out of a recruitment after the test will still follow the recruitment up like say naa him destiny and wishing evil to others still involved rather than moving on with his life. E just be like say make I dey comment for shell thread everyday after dem screen me out. When no be madness.

isyourboy:
Guys check your mail.

Medical information Just entered. 3:37pm

Thank you God

I'm always grateful

Nairaland ghost. Maybe naa Beam Clan send you come. Just tell him to see his doctor wherever he is. Cos this attitude can't take him anywhere.

Please see a doctor. You are saying this for the umpteenth time. Smh

freedomest:
[s]Hey! Hey!! Brace up for APL this week, for both EH and GT.[/s]

Happy Sunday.