The notion that we please God by self imposed renunciation like fasting and similar things is wrong in my perception. God wills that all his creations should bubble with life and supreme joy. Suffering is not the will of God and it is antithetical to the LOVE that is in God and that is GOD. God did not create or will suffering into his creations. In heaven, the spiritual kingdom of God where the will of God reigns, suffering is non-existent. Suffering is present only in material creations including our earth and suffering came into existence as a result of the misapplication of the power of God. Man or rather the spirit that is man has the ability to draw the power of God and use it. He can use the power of God to raise himself to luminous realms of pure joy or he can can apply the power to dig his own grave. The ascent to heaven or the decent to hell lies on how we use the power that God lent to us. Simply put, suffering is a consequence of sin and sin is simply a misapplication of the power of God. The power of God can be likened to the power entrapped in the nucleus of an atom (crude analogy). The atomic power can be used to give millions electricity but it can also be used to produce nuclear bombs.

We suffer because of our own actions or inaction. Sin also encompasses our inability to to listen to the voice of our spirit. Many a suffering including natural disasters can be avoided if we listen to the several warnings that physically invincible servants of God impress on us. Most of us have become spiritual dense that even the severest warnings makes no impression in our day consciousness. In the course of our existence spanning several incarnations on earth and in other material planes, we have misapplied the power of God so much that the fruits of our seeds bring suffering and despair instead of radiant joy. Most people cannot see beyond the present earth-life, hence we ask such questions like "why does God allow bad things to happen to good people", why do some evil men proper? Why are children borne with hereditary diseases? Why is Africa so poor and plagued with HIV, malaria, etc? Why does God allow infectious diseases and cancers to torment his creatures? and many similar questions. It will take several books to answer these questions. The underlying point is that diseases, evil, suffering etc are simply a misapplication of the laws of God in different planes of material creations.

The laws of God are not a set of rules as many think but are the intrinsic properties that is inherent in any creature, specie, creation of God. There is nothing anybody can do to change or annul these intrinsic properties. What we can do is to understand them and use them for the purpose for which the creator designed them for. In this instance we will have a harmonious union of the radiations of God which can only result in joy, inner peace and supreme happiness. If the intrinsic properties of the powers of God are misapplied, the consequence is wrongful and destructive union of radiations that can only result in disease, suffering, evil, etc. If we eat, drink, act, talk and perceive according to the intentions of God, then suffering, diseases and evil will depart from us and this earth will then be a reflection of the spiritual kingdom of God. A healthy body does not need drugs, but an unhealthy body may require drugs to forcibly restore it to health. In a similar vein, it is only a body that has become dense that occasionally requires fasting to restore balance. But the right endeavor should be not to allow the body to become dense in the first place. Eat and drink in moderation and only take from the table of God that which God imbued with the power to nourish our bodies. All excess with food and drink must be avoided. Even in a physical sense, if we eat and drink in moderation and nourish the body with the right mixture of food and drink, the body will become the way God designed it and many an illness will be averted. Fasting brings no spiritual benefit. It is just that in bodies that have become dense, abstinence from food for a short time will give some refinement to the body, permitting it to be more susceptible to the promptings of the spirit. Continuous abstinence will be dangerous because the weakening of the body will also result in weakened emanation from the body making it very possible for such a physical body to be subject to alien influences. In such a state it is very easy to be demonically influenced or be subject to possession by an alien disembodied spirit. Best Wishes.

justcool:

The above is just wonderful!!!! The third paragraph is unbelievably deep. Those words could only have been passed down from above; they are definitely not products of the brain.

They resonate in me like melodies from above, richly edifing my spirit.

M_nwankwo may the ALMIGHTY grant you ever more strength to draw from above.

Hi Justcool. Thank you for your kind words and prayer. I wish you strength. Stay blessed

m_nwankwo, thank you as usual for a thought-provoking piece. In your view, do you ask/pray for regular everyday things? Family? job? friends? issues? etc . . . just trying to put in tangible context some of the points in your post. Thanks!

Hi JeSoul. Thanks for your question. I offer my perception as follows. God endowed each spirit with the ability to gain connection with his power. That ability is a faculty that is an integral part of the spirit. That already presupposes that it is the spirit that prays, not the brain, the mind and not the various other non-spirtual cloaks that envelops the spirit. A spirit does not pray with words or even with thoughts. Words, and thoughts at best should give an earthly direction to the voilition of the spirit especially since most people are not yet accustomed to allowing their spirits to pray without words and thoughts. Now the volition of the spirit sets the spirit aglow and the nature of that voilition gives the glow or energy waves radiating from the spirit definite color and sound. The powers of God that vibrates in creation also have definite color and sound and via the process of homogeneity between the emanations of the spirit and the powers of God, you then get a union of the spirtual voiltion with the specific power of God. This union alters the sound and color in the uniting elements permitting it to rise higher and higher via further union of radiations until it gets to the realm or plane where an answer will be given. Thus the union of these radiations form a flight of steps to the region from which help or answer to a prayer is given. Again the help or answer is mediated to the praying spirit through  these flight of steps. There are other secondly happenings but it may cause confusion as a lot of pre-explanation are needed and so I will not include it here.

Only an emanation from the spirit that is imbued with love, purity and faith makes this contact with the power of God as I explained above. Thus most prayers do not go beyond the personal aura of those praying because they lack love, purity and faith. Since most of us find it difficult to open our spirit, then most of our prayers do not emanate from the spirit but from the brain and mind and such prayers are worthless. Only psychic shocks like deep sorrow or deep joy can occasionally and spontaneously inhibit the suffocating influence of the the brain and mind, allowing the spirit to gain connection with God and thus really pray. Had we developed the way God wanted us to, then we can perpetually be in connection with the power of God without need of psychic shocks. Rightly understood, people should only pray when there is an overwhelming desire to do, only then has it a chance of gaining connection with God. To pray routinely out of habit is not just a waste of time but an evidence that such a person is yet to sense even to the minutest degree the holiness of God. To be permitted a connection with God is the highest blessing that can befall us and thus we must approach the throne of God with love, purity and faith. If we do not, then this solemn moment of prayer that is and meant to be an elixir for our spiritual development and maturity will become a dishonor to God. Thus instead of connecting us to God, such non genuine prayer forms a gulf which with time may become insurmountable allowing us to wallow in ignorance and sin.

A genuine prayer is a communion with God or to be more specific a communion with the power of God. Such communion even for a few seconds gives the spirit an inner joy that cannot be expressed in earthly words. It also imbues the spirit with the indescribable conviction of being under the sacred protection and guidance of God. It imprints in the spirit the overwhelming desire to only live according to the will of God. Strangely, the more a man get attuned to this type of genuine prayer, the more earthly desires fall away. The more the innumerable lists of what he want God to do for him diminishes and finally dries up for such a man stands in the power of God and whatever his spirit needs or his body needs, the laws of God will bring it to him without effort. Thus strange as it may sound he has nothing to ask for the blessings from God will be overwhelming that he can only utter thanks, thanks and thanks to God. Instead of prayers of supplication, prayers of thanks giving  will become the norm in his life. Being on earth, and the fact that such a man is not yet completely transformed, trials and temptation will come but the power of God to which he has attuned himself will help him to confront and overcome even the most difficult of earthly circumstances. Calmly and coolly, he or she faces all earthly trials with gratitude to God irrespective of whether these earthly experiences bring him joy or sorrow.

Now to your question. I only pray for guidance from God and for the strength to only live according to the will of God. On some occasions, I can hear from my guides to send up prayer for this or that person (they can be family members, strangers or even people who are no more in the flesh). In that case I open my spirit and ask God to mediate his power to those that are in need. When I am also confronted with events, things or issues which I am not sure what is the will of God, I also open my spirit to God and receive guidance what to do and not do. My intuitive prayer can be captured in earthly words as "Oh God, the creator of all the worlds, be though with me, Amen". Stay blessed.

You are simply worded. This is a strengthening piece.

Hi undet. Thank you for your kind words. Stay blessed.

jackdaniel:


@M_nwankwo,  i am glad you did contribute to this debate; i always pause and ponder @ your insights; you are truely wise. Thank you for sharing. Kind Regards,

Hi jackdaniel. Thanks too for your kind words. Stay blessed.

Beautiful said. Your post has put in much better (palatable) terms what I hv tried to say with many posts.
Kudos

Hi globelx. Thanks for your kind words. Stay blessed.

To pray simply means to open ones spirit to the power of God. It is a communion between God the creator and the "breath of life" that is us. Thus the basic ingredient in a prayer is that a connection is established with the power of God. Once that connection is established, then the praying one will be imbued with all that he or she needs to recognize and live according to the laws of God. It is not difficult to establish this connection as some might think. Love for all that is in existence in tandem with purity in our entire being will allow our spirits to once again gain connection with the pulsating power of God that vibrates within and outside of creation.

Once we consciously or unconsciously  (as it happens with most people) gain connection to the power of God, then we begin to sense that there is more to prayer than asking God to grant some of our mundane desires, many of which are borne out of selfishness, ignorance or both. Gradually, a new concept of prayer emerges and this concept of prayer is inextricably linked with worship. By worship, I mean when a human spirit is in perpetual connection with God such that such a spirit is granted the power to live only according to the will of God. This act of living according to the laws of God then imbues the spirit with the ability to attract from out of the powers of God what such a spirit needs for his continual development and purification. More importantly, the spirit becomes aware that his present earthly existence is just  a snapshot of his entire existence  and that billions or trillions of intermingling threads of fate in and around him have there origin in his multifarious past existence both on earth and in other physically invincible planes of God. He also learns that the laws of God are inexorable and that he must reap the consequences of his activities whether they be good or evil. It is only in tasting the fruit of his seeds can he recognize what seeds are bitter and those that are sweet. Of course the power of God which he is now connected with will give him the strength to experience both the bitter and sweet seeds with gratitude. "A gem cannot be polished without friction nor man perfected without trials" but all the friction and trials are brought about by man himself.

God answers prayers or rejects prayers through his laws. If a prayer is not in accordance with his laws, then such a prayer will not even find homogeneity with the power of God, not to talk of being granted. Many of our prayers never make it to the throne of God because they lack love and purity. Thus strange as it may sound, God is not even "aware" of such prayer. Thus the first step to is to ask what is the will of God in whatever circumstances and if we open our spirit we will be shown what his will is.

As long as we are not guided by the power of God, we are bound to err even with very good intentions. Guidance by the power of God permits us to know his will and act accordingly. If one does not recognize the will of God, he will take a wrong path no matter how good are his intentions. And he who is open to this guidance will bear an inner peace irrespective of his earthly circumstances. Thus whether healthy or sick, rich or poor, etc he bears peace within himself for his spirit is conscious of the what, how and why of all his circumstances. Although sometimes he or she may be beset with frustrations, doubts or similar things due to the density of his physical body, the connection with God will imbue him or her with the strength to dispel the shadows. Again for a spiritually awakened, our only prayer will be that God grants us the power to live only according to his will. And once we receive this power we must use it and if we use it, then, miracles upon miracles will follow us. Yet for many of us, the evil we have done in the past are much that before the new life begins to manifest, the consequences of our old sinful past has to be confronted. It is this confrontation that appear to the seekers as trials, bad things but these apparently bad things are necessary for our spiritual transformation into the new life. Sadly though, many of us lack perseverance and weaken to soon. But with calm confidence in the omnipotence of God, we will be able to confront the consequences of our past activities , close the circle and begin our ascent to the luminous gardens of God where only love and purity reigns. Best Wishes.

nuclearboy:

Hi M_Nwankwo

Here's a purely hypothetical situation I'd like your take on - you have a 2 year old daughter and walk in to find wife AND that baby under threat by someone obviously under the influence of drugs. In your presence, derangee stabs your wife for fun then announces grandly that its your daughter's turn.

Incidentally, there is a machete close to you that he didn't notice. What will be your next line of action or ought I say, what will you do?

Hi Nuclearboy. That is a very tough hypothetical question. I will call out for Gods help and inwardly follow the guidance that I am given. It may be that I am directed to gaze on the man and emanations from my eyes strengthened by the power of God will disorientate the intruder or paralyses him momentarily. The guidance above may be that I simply call out some words in the name of God and the intruder will confess what he came to do and hand himself over to me. It may also happen that I am directed to fight (this is the one that will probably interest you) and I pick up the matchette  and in the ensuing fight, I ended up in fatally wounding the criminal intruder. My motive in the last case is to defend my wife and daughter, not to kill but in the process, I ended up killing the intruder. Spiritually, my motive is to protect my family but in doing so on the physical plane, I ended up committing murder. Now the murder I committed under this circumstances is still murder and a sin against the laws of God but this sin is mitigated to a large extent because it has no spiritual cause (motive in this instance). In addition because the murder in this case is as a result of action, the forms that arise from it have only a physical anchorage and can easily be mitigated. It will be an entirely different game if the murder has a spiritual cause. Thus reciprocal actions arising from me murdering a criminal in the defense of my family will surely come back to me but on its return it will find that the spiritual currents and aura around me is pure. It will get repelled or disintegrated before it reaches my being. In that case a very trivial action like helping a colleague to change his worn out car tyres will be symbolic atonement for the sin of murder. If it becomes necessary, I may speak in detail about symbolic redemption. The same explanation can also be applied in cases of spontaneous self defense.

Whatever is the scenario, I will act based on the guidance I receive from above. Thus the first thing is to seek for guidance. There are of course other scenario that would have prevented the intruder from coming into the proximity of my wife and daughter but since they are not directly related to your question, I will not go into it. Stay blessed.

JeSoul:

^I know you do sir - which is part of what just makes you so darn awesome! Thank you!

I have thought long and often about the phrase 'sanctity of life' (I don't even like the phrase self) . . . and cannot bring myself to see all as the same - especially when the life in question has shown he/she does not value life.

. . . just musing.

Thanks for your kind words. It is essential that we believe that which our souls sense to be the Truth. Based on your present experience and insight, you cannot see why death penalty is wrong especially when the criminal himself have no regard or respect for the life of others. It will be wrong for me or anybody else to persuade you otherwise. Thus, your present position on death penalty is in sync with that which is alive within you and you should keep it that way. I am always very happy when fellow human beings give expression to that which they genuinely believe and even when I disagree with the belief, I know the person is on the right path. As always stay blessed my sister.

JeSoul:

  Appreciated.

But could not disagree more and could not articulate my belief as well as you have. But simply put, I believe in crime and punishment and justice meted out accordingly. And as a christian living by the bible, see no case against it but infact just the opposite.

Hi JeSoul. I respect your belief on the death penalty but I do not agree with it. Stay blessed.

MyJoe:

Plus lots of guiltless people get whacked. . .  by the state. Wouldn't you say that is another problem with it?

Hi MyJoe. Even, when people are guilty, their is no spiritual bases for death penalty in my opinion. Neither the state nor an individual should harbor the desire to kill another human being even if that person is a criminal. Murder remain murder even when a murderer is the victim. Death penalty is lacking in both love and justice and do no seek ways to rehabilitate the criminal and turn him into a new path. Even if the criminal is a pathological murderer, murdering him or her is not the answer if the aim is to protect society from his evil ways. Society can be protected from his activities by removing him from the public space, and there are non violent ways to do this. My view is that the unconscious or conscious urge for revenge is the motivating impulse for seeking death penalty and not the urge for justice or for protection of society from the activities of the criminal.  Violence is a viscous circle and will only breed violence. Violence reprograms the brain making it virtually impossible for the spirit to have any influence on the physical body. Once human beings are subjected to so much violence , all that you will see is the crudest form of baseness. Neither the state nor individuals should encourage any form of violence and the first step  in this is for all nation states to abolish death penalty. Stay blessed.

justcool:

M_nwankwo has done a marvelous job on this thread as well as in the earlier thread that prompted Pastor AIO to create this thread. May the almighty reward m_nwankwo abundantly for the explanations that he has given here.

Hi justcool. Thanks for your kind words and prayers. Stay blessed.

nuclearboy:

@m_nwankwo:

Thank you. Whist not fully convinced yet on the idea and workings of reincarnation, I must admit your presentation is very impressive & Dulcet's input plus your take again on that also were illuminating.

I look forward to such time as you decide to make plain this thing you call a "comprehensive picture of your perception of the origins of man". Knowing how you see the beginning will likely aid in understanding these things more.

Thanks again

Thank you for your kind words. I enjoyed discussing with you. I will  one day offer  details of my perception on the origin of man as well as his first birth on earth  to you either here on nairaland or outside of it. Stay blessed.

Dulcet7:



The concept of reincarnation seems to provide excuses for people who do not want to be responsible for their own actions; because their actions and inactions can always be blamed upon an act of retribution brought-forward from a past life.

On the contrarily, an experience of reincarnation will awaken one to personal responsibility. Reincarnation is based on the foundation that you need several earth lives to imbibe the will of God on earth as well as on the concept that you reap what you sow. Thus God has granted us with the ability to choose our fate through the God given ability of free will. If you do not like yam that you are currently eating but want rice, then sow rice. One of the problems with some people with regard to reincarnation is to think only in the sense of former earth lives and yet a proper understanding of reincarnation involve an understanding that your actions and inaction in your present life will not only influence and shape the threads of fate arising from former earth lives but shape your present as and  well as your future fate.  But most importantly the primary purpose of reincarnation is to experience the laws of God on earth and let these laws be an integral part of your spirit. How can a student who failed an exam and was permitted to repeat the same exam but failed again blame his failure on the repeated exam on the fact that the school offered him the opportunity to repeat the exam. Did the school offer him the opportunity to repeat the exam so that he will fail or they provided him the opportunity as an extra aid so that he can pass the exam and move on to the next class? Best Wishes

Hi Nuclearboy. Thanks for your comments and questions. Your questions are fully loaded and I will address them as much as I can.

@m_nwankwo

Hello there Sir:

My problems with that response are mainly that it seem like a lot of presumption and conjecture. I am an inordinately direct person who most people find conversation with uncomfortable. However, I believe a few above such fear and you are one of these. please do not take anything as a jibe or trick question to make you look bad. Let me explain the issues of conjecture etc-

You are absolutely free to ask any question or make any comment. I am not offended by anything. Why should I take offence when an individual is only given form to his own experience. It will be presumptuous of me or anybody else to take offence when people honestly express there experience. I do sense when people are genuine and when they are not. In your case my view is that they are genuine and honest and I will address them as much as I can.

2 Million years of "seed" sowing? - how do you get that figure? Why not 200,000 years and why not 200 Billion years?

It has to do with the evolution of the species that provided the physical body for the incarnating spirit germs as well as the evolution of the planet earth. The now extinct human like animal specie which provided the physical body for the incarnation of spirit germs was in existence at about approximately 2 million years ago. Having served as the transitory species, they become extinct. The fresh spirit germs incarnating in these animal bodies under the guidance of several invincible servants of God developed the animal body to the human body that we all have today.  I am sure more questions will arise from this and a comprehensive picture will involve describing my perception of the origin of man. I will do that but I reserve that for a later time. In the meantime, what I state are events shown to me in spirit and the transformation of these beyond earthly events into earthly time and concepts is dependent on my brain. Thus the time stated will not be exact but they are around such stated times. It is for this reason that I intentionally choose the word "around".

Do you believe God has a numbering/naming/recognition system for these trillions of seeds individually? Why?

When the spirit germs left paradise, they have no name, they are blank pages in the book of life (laws of God). As they start to awaken from unconscious to consciousnesses and then to self consciousnesses, emanations or activities of there spirits provides the  ink and pencil with which the laws of God inscribe there volition on the book of life. Once these blank pages (spirit germs in their unconscious state) have inscriptions on their blank pages as they awaken to consciousnesses, they become a spirit with a name and personality. The inscriptions on the pages is the name and personality and since it is God or rather the laws of God that write down the inscriptions, each and every individual page (human spirits) is known to God.

What would be the eventual purpose of this seed developing into a spirit being with name and personality?

The ultimate purpose is for the spirit germ to develop its latent talents so that its transformed from an unconscious seed into a self conscious personality that is in the likeness of the image of God. Then it can return home back to the kingdom of God and from there he will become an instrument for the will of God. If however a spirit disobeyed the laws of God and refused to live in the sense of the will of God, then the acquired personality, that is the inscriptions on the pages will be wiped out, he looses his consciousnesses and personality and cease to exist. That is spiritual death, equivalent to effacement from the book of life.

How do you get the idea that 7 reincarnations are sufficient for "original purpose"?

That is the picture that I saw in spirit. I can explain why but that will lead us into areas that may be confusing to many readers. A lot of pre-explanation is still required before I make that leap. So, hopefully in the future I may offer an explanation or description in that connection.

Considering your understanding of the fall of man, immorality, and hell, does it ever stop? I mean, it is getting worse rather than better and continues to down-slide so what next? ,  . i.e. The spiritual "rush-hour" idea (brilliant analogy, if I say so) would only seem to become worse and worse with more vehicles coming into rush hour till the Jam as it were, surely must come to where it can no longer be broken

Before a calm morning violent gales must blow. Yes, it will get worse until this world and beyond is purified from evil by the power of God. God promised that his will will be done on earth as it is in heaven. The institution of the will of God on earth will mark the end of evil and human beings both here and in the beyond that survived the purification, devoid of the evil currents of Lucifer and his followers will then learn and live according to the laws of God for a period of 1000 years, hence the millennium- a thousand year peace on earth where the will of God reign supreme. God promised the millennium and God will deliver the promise. But the process of purification, separation of good from evil which is a pre-requite for the coming kingdom of God on earth has already started.

Maybe its just me but can we have any sources of information and literature on these ideas?

I draw from the work "In The Light of Truth-The Grail Message" as well as from my personal experience of the creations of God, both physically visible and invisible. I was born with the ability to see and interact with non-physical realities.

The issue of what I saw as contradiction now totally puzzles me - if we are subject NOT only to karma based on our own actions but also to what others "accept" in our behalf, then our karma is subject also to whatever we do where others are concerned. In effect, a woman who takes a vehicle with her baby and ends up dead (with the baby) due to the drunkenness of a driver she didn't know is guilty and the poor baby's death is partly on her. But that driver (who was doing above 100km/h though otherwise innocent of the crash) is also guilty by association. Plus the other driver (if it was a crash) who crashed into them, is also guilty plus if that other driver was being pursued by police when he ran into them, then the police who were simply doing their work were also guilty.

No, I did not say that we are subject to what others accept on our behalf. What I said is that we can accept prenatally that we may become victims of the free will of others. By accepting to incarnate on earth, a soul accepts that he may be at the receiving end of the abuse of free will by others. This only happens here on earth where good and evil can dwell side by side. Now even at this, the laws of God ensure that we are protected from the abuse of free will by others by providing us with protection. If we become indolent and fail to sense the protection that God surrounds us with, then we can get hurt or suffer misfortune. Indolence or the inability to perceive spiritual warnings is also an expression of free will. In the case of a baby who cannot express this will, the warnings are given and its the responsibility of the adults around the baby to sense the warning and act and by doing so the baby will be protected. I also mentioned that even when the adults did not percieve or hid the protection and the innocent baby in your example is murdered, then the laws of God will recompense and redress the injustice done to this baby. If one only looks at the single event, that is the murder of the innocent baby, then it is unjust but if the eyes of the onlookers will be open to several events that will come into play in the life of the murdered innocent baby in the beyond or in another incarnation, they will see that the laws of God has brought justice and recompense to the murdered innocent baby and retribution to the murders. It is important to note that justice does not refer to a single event in one earth life but refer to the totality of whole existence. It is when one brings together the trillions of events, causation, actions and reactions in ones entire existence does one clearly see the immutable justice and love of God.

In your example of the murdered baby, you dwelt only on the one possibility where he is innocent  and a victim of the evil volition of the senseless murderers.  Just imagine that in 50 or 200 years time, this child re-incarnates  and is borne into Royalty as the future king of England and his Fulani murders also incarnated in England. The Fulani murderer who actually pulled the sword followed a military career and letter became the personal body guard to the future king of England (the murdered child). One day, the prince was out on routine joking through the streets of London. An assassination attempt was made on his life but his body guard ( his murderer in a previous earth life in Northern Nigeria) saved the life of the prince by blocking the prince from the assassin bullet. In the process the body guard took the bullet on himself and was killed. If you are permitted to see both the events in Nigeria 200 years ago and the assassination attempt in the streets of London, what will you say about justice? Each of us who in using our free will brought misfortune or blessing to our fellow travelers will one day cross the path of those who we have brought misfortune or blessing.

If the woman or the baby is innocent, then she will get warning not to enter the bus or some apparent trifle like stopping at a kiosk to eat amala will prevent her from entering that particular bus. If she fails to listen to the several warning being impressed on her by servants of God, then her spiritual indolence (which is an expression of her free will) have cost her her life and that of her baby.  In you specific example, the driver is the primary culprit by driving under influence and the mother by not recognizing or hidden warnings shown to her by servants of God. In all this I am taking your worst case scenario where this event is due to a fresh act of free will, that is, the driver driving under the influence of alcohol. This worst case scenario is actually a rare happening, in most cases, the driver, the woman, the baby and other passengers are already linked by pre-existing threads of fate dating back to former earth lives.

'm sure you now get the complication this presents (maybe its in my mind). Yet we haven't come to the crux of the matter which is that the baby now has to wait another 50 - 100 years for a reason he had no control over - how would you say this is made "just" and how would blame be apportioned. I know nobody has ALL answers but its fascinating, this just world thingy and while referred to as "just", suddenly seems totally "unjust" when a bit of thought is put to it.

50-100 years may seem a lot considering one earth life but it is a drop in an ocean when the entire existence of the baby both in this earth and physically invincible worlds is taken into consideration. Look at the hypothetical example I gave earlier on in which the baby reincarnated as a future king of England and his Fulani murderer (now his body guard) saved his life from the assassin bullet. If you consider that each single soul has trillions of such experiences in their entire existence, maybe you will see what I mean by the immutable justice of God and why I state in absolute terms that there is no event or happening without a cause or causes.

Thank you again for your time

You are welcome. Stay blessed.

M-Nwankwo has graciously responded but that thread starts to sicken me so I'd prefer not to go into a civilized conversation there. I'm hoping he'll get here at which time I may have put my thoughts together seeing as his answer presents even more questions than obtained before.

Hi Nuclearboy. You can raise your questions here and I will find time to offer my perception on them. Stay blessed.

MyJoe:

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But these shockingly heartless species of people we see around aren’t necessarily born to the lustful and good people to those in “holy” matrimony.

Appearances can be very deceptive. What people show themselves to be is most times is the opposite of what they are. Thus, many of the people outwardly considered pure may be internally impure. Thus many of those we may consider as good and pure people are not so while others who by appearance we think are impure are actually pure. Indeed a majority of the so called "holy matrimony" are impure. Being born within or outside wedlock has nothing to do with the purity of the couples involved. If two people genuinely love each other and have complementary spiritual qualities, then there union is consecrated by God whether or not the state, church or culture gives its permission is inconsequential. Only sexual union between couples that fulfil the laws of genuine love and spiritual compatibility are in accordance with the laws of God. Strange as it may sound, a husband can and do commit immoral acts with his wife where these twin laws I mentioned above are not fulfilled. Having said that, it can also happen that in some instances evil souls can incarnate through good souls. It can happen if the expectant mother or those constantly around her led down there guard by momentarily indulging or tasting impure vibrations before conception, during conception and about 3 to 6 months after conception. Remember that inward purity is a real time process and thus a man can be pure for 23 hours 59 minutes in a day and just one minute of immoral indulgence can wreck havoc. The opposite can also happen in case of souls that are impure, a second of inner purity may strongly influence an event. It is for this reason that we must watch and pray which means to be perpetually alert with full confidence in the omnipotence and omniscience of God. Stay blessed.

MyJoe:

@M_Nwankwo

Thanks for your, as usual, illuminating response.

Hi MyJoe. Thank you for your kind words. Stay blessed.

nuclearboy:

@m-nwankwo;

Thank you for your time.

First you contradict a tenet of the Bible which says Time and chance happens to them all. But this (whist a problem for the Christian) won't be my thrust in response.

Rather, let me ask you - all souls are old and are being recycled according to your post. But this begs a question - where do they come from initially (first existence) and how come they are multiplying if indeed they are only being recycled. What was earth's population 5,000 years ago? Where did the immense difference in population spring from? Lets be sincere - 20 people being recycled over and over will NEVER become 50 people so where did our "extra" population spring from?

Your explanation of a mother not handling her responsibility enough and this being responsible for the death of her child seems to directly contradict your penultimatye post where your words attribute same death specifically to the baby's freewill. Could you pls comment on this difference between the posts

Hi Nuclearboy. Thank you for your well reasoned response. I reply as follows:
The human spirit has its origin in the spiritual kingdom of God. He originated from there as a spirit seed and is sent to the world of matter including the earth for the purpose of development so that it can develop from a spirit seed into a spirit being with a name and personality. The earth was accepting wave upon wave of fresh spirit seeds, a process that lasted for approximately 2 million years, until it becomes too old in its cosmic cycle to accept frest spirit germs from paradise. At this point fresh spirit seeds move to young earthlike planet in another universe. Thus fresh spirit seeds are continually ejected from paradise even till this moment but they do not incarnate in our earth because our earth is already old in its cosmic cycle, they are incarnated in other earth-like planets that are young and in other  universes. Now lets remian with our own earth and find aswers why the population is increasing. The number of spirit germs that left paradise in various waves of ejection number in trillions. Over the cosmic life span of the earth, all these spirits will be able to incarnate, reincarnate and learn all the lessons and move on to higher realms of experiencing. There are many intervening planes where spirits stay while awaiting a fresh incarnation on earth. Now beacuse of the fall of man, most spirits instead of acquiring the necessary maturity and moving beyound the intervening planes I mentioned back to paradise, these souls are now trapped in these various intervening planes awaiting for opportunity for reincarnation.

Originally, seven reincarnations lasting approximately 500-1000 years per reincarnation is sufficient for a soul to move beyond the earth and the surrounding intervening planes back to the realms of light. The disobedience to the laws of God with the resultant fall of man created a condition where many souls reincarnate more than seven times, leave only for 50-100 years and in obedience to the luciferian principle created a new region called the hell. At present the hell has souls trapped in it that is in excess of at least 7 times the present earthly population of six billion. Now imagine that since the fall of man, the intervening planes and the hell region that also came into existence has billions of souls trapped in these realms, then we may start to find answers as to why the population of human beings on earth will be on the increase.

Thus the reason for the increase in the population of the earth is that souls are incarnated from these intervening planes as well as hell into our earth. The fall of man came with it sexual immorality. This lust is like a draw bridge through which souls find there way to earth. Without immorality, souls in the region of hell will not be able to incarnate on earth. A lot of discussants have talked about poo in our world and they may find that more than half of the present population of our planet came from hell and it is not suprising that they carryout activities prevalent in realms of hell. Thus our planet has become a foothold for debased souls who found there way here through the lustful propensities of women and men.

Another reason why the population of our planet is increasing and will continue to increase is because it is "rush hour". If you come to lagos mainland bridge and count the number of cars by 3 AM in the morning, you will find few cars, come back at 7.30 in the morning when people are rushing to work and you will find hundereds of cars on the bridge. Does it mean that the increased number is due to  increase in the population of cars in lagos, I do not think so. It simply means that during rush hour, cars are coming from all parts of lagos to the bridge. The total population of cars in lagos at 3AM i and 7.30AM will not be significantly different but the rush hour created a situation where they are more cars at the bridge at 7.30am than at 3 AM and yet the population of cars in the whole lagos is relatively unchanged. Imagine Lagos mainland bridge to be the earth and imagine all the parts of lagos except the lagos mainland bridge to be the intervening regions and the realms of hell that I mentioned earlier and then you may see why there is an increase in the population of the earth. The rush our is created on earth because souls in intervening regions as well as the hell know that the end time is near and they have very little time to save themselves or cease to exist. Hence the spiritual rush hour.


Yes in one way, I can understand why you see it as a contradiction. The contradition is however only apparent because I also mentioned that in this case where we are victims of the free will of others, we a priori acceped the possibility of such events. It is like a man who is sent to save an old couple from a burning house. His aim is to save the old couple but he also knows that there is a possibility that he can be burnt in the process of saving the old couple from fire. If he does not want to etertain this possibility at all, then he will not go but if the love in him moves him, he undertakes the mission in spite of the risk of being burnt. By accepting to incarnate on earth where good and bad dwell side by side, a soul including the child you mentioned accepted a prirori that such events may happen. Stay blessed.

lagerwhenindoubt:


@m_nwankwo. I am yet to get my mind wrapped around  reincarnation each time i try I fear i might be going schizo. the idea of being recycled for the purpose of spiritual perfection in a world that is fast going to sh.it smacks of divine masochism. Though I am half-consoled knowing Egbon Sule is probably a turd in some Congolese rubbish heap for brutally obtaining me those long years ago. Back to the recusant baby soul who refuses the grace of the gods to a positive path. If my child is kidnapped tomorrow and killed in the process, should i rest easy knowing that his past-life came to haunt him   or should I hope that bad karma catches up with the kidnappers as they get a good backside-whupping from a 2yr old who used to be Bruce lee in his past life   Help me out here

Hi Lagerwhenindoubt. You have nothing to fear if you are seeking the truth about God and his will. The purpose of reincarnation is to provide souls the opportunity to learn the will of God and let that will become an integral part of the spirit. Even if men are to live up to 1000 years, that is not enough to recognize the various manifestations of the will of God on earth. Thus repeated earth lives are required. The secondly purpose of reincarnation is that it permits souls to redeem themselves from previous sins and move on to a higher level of experiencing. This secondly purpose was not the original or primary purpose of reincarnation. It simply became a purpose because human beings in-spite of all guidance from ABOVE disobeyed the laws of God, thus the free will that would have raised him upwards became the albatross that katapultated him to darkness. The love of God permits such souls to redeem themselves by the process of reincarnation. Just like students who failed a course or a class get opportunity to pass the course by repeating the course, so in the school of life souls are given the opportunity to amend their wrong ways. Just like in the earthly school, the opportunity to repeat a class is not a guarantee for passing. If the student does not use that opportunity, a time also comes when he has exhausted all possibilities of repetition and thus must be rusticated or expelled from the school. The same will happen to a soul who after several opportunities to mature still fail. Once one come to the appreciation that the laws of God are imbued with the attributes of love and justice, then it will be easier for the seeker to see that reincarnation is a fact of life.

The knowledge of previous earth lives is stored in the soul and not in the human brain and it is for this reason that most people cannot remember their previous existence. This again is due to the love of God because if people are to remember all there past lives, they will live in the past and forget that the past is a memory, the future is yet to be experienced. Only the present is real and by living in the present is the only way to mature. If an individual requires a knowledge of his former lives in other to mature spiritually, then he will be permitted to  have that knowledge. Even without such vivid recollection of former existence, if you look closely at what is generally regarded as personality traits, you will find that there origin lies in a previous existence. Some extraordinary form genius especially at a young age has its origin in previous existence. A master pianist in a former earth life may find that even before the age of five he can play the works of outstanding classical composers without blinking an eyelid. It comes so easy and natural to him that it is incomprehensible to him that adults find it difficult to master and indulge in laborious studies just to replicate a note.

Now to the question of a kidnapped 2 year old son. It is wrong to attribute what happens to others as their karma except you actually know, that is, you are able to follow all threads of fate from the moment that child came into existence to the present. Most human beings do not know and careless speculation on these matters will only drag the speculators down and slow or even abrogate their spiritual development. It is sufficient to realize that nothing will happen to anyone except what he himself have put out either through his actions, inactions or waht he accepted as a part of his training or development. He should not seek for the details, rather he should look upwards with calm confidence to God. He must also find it in his soul to forgive those that murdered his son. There is nothing else for him to do. These two things, trust in God and forgiveness for the murderers open the way for the laws of God to manifest. Remember the laws of God has the knowledge of the the souls involved, the murderers, the murdered child and several others and will dispense justice in a comprehensive way. The immutability of the laws of God will take care of everything. All we have to do is to live accordingly to the laws of God. If we do, then we will gradually be able to sense the protection around us , and by opening ourselves to the protection offered by the laws of God, we will be spared many a misfortune. I may give more details on this if it becomes necessary.

We have earthly and social laws simply because most human beings have chosen to disobey the laws of God. Thus other fellow travelers most be protected from their evil acts. If men live according to the laws of God as will happen in the often mentioned millennium, then no evil soul will be able to incarnate on earth and the earth will become a paradise where the only law is the law of God. Even in the present shit as many discussants have alluded, you will still come across some genuine human beings and in their mist, you can sleep with your eyes closed. The presence of such genuine people is a reminder that paradisaical state devoid of evil deeds is not an illusion but a reality that will come to be. Stay blessed.

nuclearboy:



I wish to ask m_nwankwo a question:

This your "implied causality" concept - how does it explain the death of a spanking brand new baby? Or the decision of a fulani man to machete the head of a 4 day old baby? How does that fall within the "free will" of the baby?

Hi Nuclearboy. Thanks for your question. My view on the question is as follows: A brand new baby is only new with respect to the present physical body but not with respect to the soul that inhabits that body. Indeed all babies are old souls in young bodies. Before there present existence as new born babies they have been on earth several times in a process often referred to as reincarnation. The consequences of their free will in previous incarnations influence their fate in this present incarnation. Thus a new born baby comes with a load of good and bad karma or reciprocal actions dating back from its former existence. These threads of fate from previous existence determine where he will born, the circumstances, the parents and even the type of genes that he will inherit. Thus it is not luck that some are born into wealth while others are born into abject poverty. It is also not chance that some have good genes and immune system while others are born with hereditary diseases. In order not to digress much from your question, let me say that the thread of fate is always changing as new threads, that is, new acts of free will are added to existing thread such that an existing good or bad karma with which a child was born with can be mitigated or result in the opposite effect. Now back to the spanking brand new baby. There are several possibilities and I will shortly list some of them- 1, a brand new baby may die because he prenatally chose to do so, 2, he may have through his actions in former earth lives predetermined himself to die shortly after birth. In this case, medical practitioners or parents who in former existence indulged in aborting babies will be compelled by the reaction of their actions to experience death as a baby or child, 3, a spirit involved with the development of the science of pediatrics in the beyond may choose to experience death as a child as part of his training in the non earthly sphere, 4, a baby may die as a result of the abuse of free will by others, in this case, the parents may have taken drugs during pregnancy or doctors were careless. In this last example, the baby did not die directly  because of his free will but because of the effect of the free will of others. This is possible on earth where good and bad dwell side by side. A spirit that decides to experience on earth accepted a priori [/i]before earthly incarnation that he may become a victim of the abuse of free will by others. If a spirit does not accept this [i]a priori, he will never be able to incarnate on earth. The laws of God also recompense those who are victims of the arbitrarily acts of there fellow men. Thus in accepting to experience on earth, the spirit has expressed its will to use the earth as a school for his development and since evil minded people are also in the same school, then he may become a victim of there evil nature. But even in this case, the baby or the child is not left without protection. If the mother of the child stands in the will of God and the child have not through his former activities generated bad karma, then luminous forces will shield the child from danger and terminate many evil voilition before they can manifest. The admonition "watch and pray" is no empty word.

The explanations with what happened to a brand new baby can also be applied in the case of a four day old child that was murdered by the fulani man. Where the event is not brought about by the karmic entanglements of the baby from previous incarnations on earth but from the evil act of the fulani man, then the necessary spiritual alertness was not expressed by those around the baby especially the mother. A mother who stands in the will of God will be able to spiritually shield her children from evil radiations and acts until the child reaches puberty. Just like the fulani murdered the baby, there will be cases where the fulani man will fell by his own sword even before he reaches the baby. One more thing, even when a man is destined to be murdered because of his karma, those who carry out the murder are perpetrating evil and will certainly reap the consequences of murder. The murderous currents will find fulfillment without the participation of human hands. I got to stop here for now. Stay blessed.

MyJoe:

Would you be so kind to explain the above? Who are these guides capable of doing this?

Hi My Joe. As an aid for our development, God permitted chains of guides to guide, admonish, and teach us his will and its manifestations as we experience in various realms of creation. The closest to us in this chain are human spirits like us who have experienced here on earth but have transited into the beyond following earthly death. These group of guides used to have the same weakness that we currently have but have overcome them. They are then appointed as guides to help us overcome our weaknesses. They admonish us through our conscience. Indeed a  part of our conscience are impressions from these closest of guides. As one type of weakness falls away, then new guides with experience with a new fault takes over until we also overcome that fault. These closest of guides sense liberating joy when we overcome our faults or refuse to succumb to temptation but they also feel depressing sorrow when we discard there admonitions and succumb to temptations. They did the same thing with there own guides when they were on earth and seen the same thing repeat in there wards is also a strengthening experience for the guides, an experience that strengthens them to never depart from serving the will of the Almighty. Thus there is progress spiritually both for the guides and his wards. What I briefly described above are guides that are closest to most people while on earth. There insight is still close to the earth and thus they cannot divine many event.

Now, there are higher gradations of guides that are advanced human spirits, higher spirits and substantiate beings that can survey the will of God in greater detail and thus mediate through the chains of lower guides a message to a human being on earth that results in what people generally regard as grace. A practical example here may make the picture I am trying to paint clearer. An unemployed youth had only 20 naira left in his pocket. He is to use that money to enter a bus that will take him to the venue of a job interview that is 10km away. The job interview is scheduled for tomorrow. On his way from the local market, he saw an old woman with a heavy load on her back. He gently offered to help the old woman carry her load. Even with the load lifted from the back of the old woman, the youth noticed that the old woman is drained of strength and can barely walk the entire distance to her village. The youth knew that putting the woman in a bus at the cost of 20 naira will take the woman to her village but that 20 naira is the only thing he has on him and it is his transport money to the job interview. Without further thought, the youth decided to use the 20 naira to pay for the old woman transport. The old woman was moved by this act of kindness. As she was about to enter the bus, she knelt with her shaking legs, raised her hand in the air and prayed that God should bless this youth.

The act of selflessness and the prayer took on form and grew in the beyond as a fountain of blessing for this youth. Now the youth trekked to the interview and did not succeed. For the next 25 years he was still struggling  and can barely take care of his responsibilities. At this point this youth have forgotten of the encounter with the old woman. But this fountain of blessing that arose from his selfless act of love have matured and awaiting when the former youth (now a middle aged man) will tap from it and dramatically change his fortune. The higher guides I mentioned above have tendered and watched this fountain of blessing grow and mature. The earthly manifestation of this fountain is that this struggling man will suddenly cross the path of human beings and events that will bring good fortune. Guidance is then mediated to this middle aged man and within a space of few weeks, several coincidence opens the door to fortune, the middle aged man does not understand why fortune will suddenly smile on him after years of struggle nor does he remember that an event that transpired 25 years ago sowed the seed for his fortune. More baffling to him is why suddenly he was at the right place and time. The uninitiated will call it providence or grace but this providence or grace did not drop in his laps from no where but is a a manifestation of the eternal laws of God. If people start looking at these apparent coincidence in their lives and that of their neighbors with their spirit, a pattern may begin to unfold which may permit them a glimpse into the omniscience of God or the love that is imbued in his eternal laws.

At some point, I may offer more detail about these higher guides and the nature of their activity. As always stay blessed.

M_Nwankwo and I had thrashed out this issue very early on in our talks.  The implications of his position, in my opinion, are very grave.

Why make social laws?  If everybody gets what they deserve, then the person that gets attacked by Armed Robbers deserved it and there is no need to make laws to prevent it, or to have a police force.  If a woman gets violated then she had it coming.  etc etc etc.  This is called the Just World Hypothesis and though it cannot be refuted it's implications are very dangerous.  

I personally believe that Sh_t Happens.  Call me a Sh_t-Happens-ist.  Events occur without just cause.  This is evident, for example, in the story of Job.  What did Job do to deserve all that happened to him?  

If you don't believe that you can be going your own way, the jeje way, and then out of nowhere some mad dog will just rush out and find your trouble, totally mess up your setting then it can't be Nigeria that you're living in.  I call Nigeria the land of JUSTLIKETHAT.  Where thing can happen 'just like that'.  Anyway, I'm meandering now . . .

Hi Pastor. Yes, we have as you pointed out debated the issue. I maintain that there is nothing without a cause. To transcend causality in my view does not exist. Events that appear not to have causality only appears so but it is not real. It only appears so because observers of such an event are within the event and thus cannot see outside or beyond that event. Only the man at the top of Oshodi bridge will see the chaos below him in the mad movement of the people to and fro. He who is within this movement will not see it. Even the story of Job have its cause. I believe that  what ever happens or will happen to a person is a consequence of their free will. The expressions of your free will is dependent on you but the reciprocal actions arising from them is determined by the immutable laws of God. Thus you cannot sow yam and expect beans at harvest time just because you have heard that the price of beans have suddenly skyrocketed. Neither will  you be certified a surgeon when you did not attend the training and proved your competence. As it is in these earthly matters, so is it spiritually. The implication of my stand is that God has given man the ability to raise himself to heaven or drag himself to hell. As men stir there ship of life, so will it glid through the waters of life. Grace which many think is undeserved is actually deserved; it is simply the fruitification of seeds sown in earlier or present incarnations which the recipients are unconscious of the sowing in the earthly sense. Spiritual guides see these fruits and by guidance help to bring about circumstances in which the recipients reap the fruits. Since the recipients are unaware of the these fruits as well as the guidance in an earthly sense, they conclude that it is undeserved. The same principle underlines what we regard as misfortune. Someday, the bandage will fall from there eyes and they can trace with mathematical accuracy the causalities that resulted in the grace. As always, stay blessed.

Jenwitemi:

Nwankwo's idea if God is strikingly reminiscent of the SUN with all the talk of radiations and emanations and light rays and absorptions and stuff. There are people who worship he sun, probably the oldest religion on the planet. Ofcourse, God is within us all and not without, for there is nothing outside of us. We're all the projecting consciousness that project all we perceive and interact with. But that is just his own conception of God which he is entitled to. After all, there are many other concepts of what God is.

Each individual has the responsibility to believe what he perceives to be the Truth. It is not for me or anybody else to tell people what to believe. I offer my views when asked and these views are based on my experiencing of creation, both physically visible and invincible. If seekers find that what I said is in tune with their spirits, then they may consider to investigate it further. On the contrarily, if what I say does not resonate deep within their souls, then they should discard it. Those who genuinely believe that they are God are entitled to their belief and I respect that even though I disagree with it. Stay blessed.

agi-tuedor:

Wow! Very elucidating! I understand better. Probably, the saying should be that the radiation of God is within man or rather that man is exactly part of the radiations. In certain mystical practices particularly meditation, people become aware of this radiation in the form of bright light of different colours and the inner eye opens to see it. Thanks for the explanation.

Thank you for your kind words. Yes, man is a part of the radiations of God. Stay blessed.

agi-tuedor:

Good quote there.
But i find it hard to grasp the explanation of radiations, inner cloaks and their relationship to the human brain and the physical body. As a scientist and also a student of mysticism, i am forced to imagine the radiations as light rays that moves in straight lines but all rays must have a source. In this case, it is God. But are the rays coming from within? Or without? My best guess in within. Then this must affirm the mystical assertion that God is within us all. Is this the implication of your quote? Thanks.

Hi agi-tuedor,

No, my quote does not imply that God is within us. God as you correctly sensed is the source of the radiations but the radiations are not God. Now, there is God and the emanations (radiations) of God. All that is not God is the radiation of God or precipitated/cooled off/ condensed from the radiations of God. Simply put, all that exists outside of the unsubstantiality of God has its origin in the radiations of God. Thus the proximity of God (divine realm) and all creations have its origin in the radiation of God. Thus all creations including spiritual, animistic and material creations originated from the radiation of God. Thus creations are the work of God, that is, they originated from the emanations of God but not directly from God. A crude analogy is to consider the sun and the rays of the sun. The rays of the sun is an emanation of the sun but it is not the sun itself. At cosmic distances from the sun, its rays animates life in this blue planet. Now the emanation of the sun is transformed into the food we eat, the vitamin D in our bodies, the solar power we use to power our homes etc., yet the rays of the sun and objects or applications developed from the rays of the (food, vitamin D, solar panel) etc do not contain the sun or even a particle of the sun.

Now, the radiations of God is or carries within itself reflections or images of what is in God. Love for instance is in God and thus his radiations carry within themselves reflections or images of this love. Thus, the spirit of man is a radiation of God and intrinsic within the spirit of man is a reflection of the love that is in God. This reflection or image that is in the human spirit links the human spirit to other higher gradations of the images of love and finally to the the source of love that is God. It is also radiations that connect the varied reflections of the love of God to the unsustantiate love that is in God. Thus, the human spirit being a reflection or image of the love of God is hardwired to love. If this image or reflection (in this case the human spirit) does not love, then it looses its connection with the source of love (God), and will wither and die. It is for this reason that love is the only thing that is required for the spiritual maturity and evolution of souls.

Thus man bears the radiation of God but do not have God within himself. A creator cannot be within his creation. No painter will be in his paintings, no inventor in his inventions and no author in his books. Yet the inventions, the books, the paintings express or give form to the volition of their creators and give glimpse of what is the volition of their creators. In a similar vain, the works of God, that is the creations is a reflection of the will of God and by experiencing creation, we will come to sense the will of God. When we sense what is the will of God and leave accordingly, then we will be uplifted to the pure realms, that is the spiritual kingdom of God and will come to a recognition of God. To recognize God simply means to recognize the will or ways of God. It is impossible for a creature to know God personally but it is possible for a creature to be permitted a knowledge of God. No radiation of God can exist as a conscious entity in the "proximity" of God. If you follow my descriptions above, I am confident you will see why it is so. In a crude analogy, all creatures on earth owe their biological existence to the energy of the sun and yet if any of these creatures including man in his physical body moves towards the proximity of the sun, they will cease to exist, they will vaporize without a trace. Stay blessed.

Deep Sight:

^^^ Honestly, its so incisive. It strikes the chord of truth. He clearly has deep sight.

Sadly I don't use a BB. Brand loyalty. 

Hi Deep Sight. Thanks for your kind words. If fellow discussants find my words spiritually enriching, then the gratitude that vibrates in their souls must be directed to GOD. I have no deep sight.  I simply pass on what my spirit is able to draw from the laws of GOD. As always, stay blessed.

MyJoe:

Greetings M_Nwankwo
The is the principle behind Yoga.
This appears to be the principle behind Ayurvedic medicine. But they don't just rely on intuition anymore. Over thousands of years quizzes have been formulated to enable an individual determine his own energy spectrum or something like that and work out what suits him.

Hi Myjoe,

Sadly what happened with Ayurvedic  medicine as you pointed above is happening in every "spiritual" endeavor. A connection with God, the creator of all the worlds is essential for for the will of God to be manifest. Individuals who have these gifts or are blessed by God faithfully fulfill their mission and when they depart this earth life, there successors do not have the same ability and that is the beginning of distortions that we see in healing arts and similar stuff. Just an example, a man was given the gift of herbal medicine. Intuitively he is guided from ABOVE on what herbs do singly and in combination. He shares his knowledge with his apprentices including some of his children. These apprentices can learn from the blessed herbalist but they do not have the ability to receive guidance on herbs and its usage from God. From there apprenticeship, they learn various recipes which the blessed herbalists uses for different illness. Now the blessed herbalists passes on and the eldest child stepped into his shoes and continue the healing art. All that he has are rigid recipes that lacked the mobility of intuitive guidance  that his father was blessed with. Soon he comes to the realization that the prescriptions he learned from his blessed father is not working as it used to be. His herbal healing practice is loosing clients in droves. The survival of the healing practice is at stake. Now he has two choices: to be honest with his clients that he does not have the ability of his Father or pretend that he has the same ability as his father. Unfortunately, many follow the later and that is the beginning of charlatanism. Because he has no ability, he consciously or unconsciously exaggerates the success of his practice, indulges in outward bizarre display to convince his patients that he is guided. He tries to force himself into a trance and murmur some mumbo jumbo claiming to hear from the guides of his departed father or from his departed father. While his father silently prays to God to release the power in the herbs, his son turns every prescription into a ritual,   Thus what was once pure and mobile has become rigid and lacked life. This example with the blessed herbalist and his son that inherited his herbal medicine practice can be applied to all so called "spiritual" endeavors. One thing is clear, enthusiasm, learning or training cannot replace God-given ability and for an endeavor to manifest the power of God, mediators of that endeavor must have the ability that allow them to be guided by God. In addition even for the one who has the ability, such a person must be pure and honest and have the humility to tell those who look up to him that this ability is simply a gift of God. Thus all gratitude should and must be directed to GOD. All genuine servants of God in all spheres of life oppose personality cults. As always stay blessed.

Much of the "secret" to healthy and radiant life lie in what we refer to as nature. Herbs just like air are simply physical encapsulation of precipitated radiations of God. He who knows how to uncover or de-envelope air or herbs will be able to liberate the specific energy in them, energy that can literally work what we term miracles.  If we are shown how to eat, how to breathe and how to drink from infancy, then almost all the present illnesses that torment us today will cease to exist. When we start to see that what we eat, drink or breathe in its pure form is energy, then it will dawn on us that an incorrect mixing of the energies or uncontrolled liberation of the energies trapped in these so called physical things will lead to disaster. Today, science is already looking to find antimicrobial, anticancer drugs etc from herbs and they will certainly find but that is just a tip of the iceberg. The antimicrobial and anticancer drugs that are already found and will be found in these herbs are still trapped energy. There potency will benefit many but it is infinitesimal compared to tapping the "pure" energy from these herbs. A herbalist that is called by God can release the energy trapped in these herbs and produce results that are indeed miraculous. There are two things, the encapsulated energy in the raw herb  and the released energy from the herb. Science and every person can make use of the encapsulated energy but only the one called by God can mediate the power that releases the energy. It is for this reason that a blessed herbalist can achieve results with a particular herb or combinations of herbs which is not possible for others not called for it or even science to achieve. In addition, a blessed herbalist can combine herbs for person "A" and it will work and when used on person "B" it will not work and the opposite is also true. A blessed herbalist intuitively or consciously  sees the energy spectrum of his patients and tailore his prescriptions to suit the particular individual. Science is gradually moving towards personalized medicine but gifted servants of God have practiced personalized medicine for thousands of years. Best wishes.

Similarly I might apply the argument of the extremes to the question of faith. When it is said that faith is not reason, and that faith justifies itself, or that faith needs no validation via temporal logic, what would be the result if this position is subjected to the x-ray under the argument of the extremes?

Hi DeepSight. Faith in my sensing is not what is defined above. Probably what is stated above is what is commonly refereed to as blind faith as opposed to genuine faith. Genuine faith  is the conviction that comes from experiencing the laws of God in all planes of creation, not just the physical universes. Faith, thus resides in the spirit of man, that is, it is an integral "component" of a spirit who is alive in the creations of God. To be alive in the creations of God is to absorb the rays of love that vibrates in all creations and dispense it accordingly. As a spirit absorbs and  dispenses the rays of love, it is in reciprocity also absorbing the varied and complex manifestations of the laws of God. A time comes when these laws of God or rather the manifestations becomes an integral "part" of the spirit. Such a spirit  has faith as the various strings of the laws of God vibrates in his spirit and  these living strings links him to the living LAW (GOD). It is this spiritual link with GOD that imbues the spirit with faith. At this point, it is important to note that many who are linked in this way may not be conscious of it while in there physical bodies. But whether they are conscious or oblivious of it, the sigh of genuine faith is unmistakable- love, humility, selflessness , contaminating inner calmness, common sense, impeccable logic, infectious joy etc. Logic in this context is the ability to know what is right or wrong, that is, the ability to know in all circumstances what is according to the laws of God.

This link with the living law which  as I stated above imprints the spirit with faith also gives such a spirit a birds eye view allowing it to sense things that was, is and will be. By this I do not mean clairvoyance and similar stuff. The manifestations of genuine faith are the evidence of faith. Thus a spiritual manifestation of faith will have a spiritual evidence and likewise a physical manifestation of faith will have physical evidence. Genuine faith does not justify itself, rather the fruits of genuine faith are the rationale. Genuine faith in God is incompatible with sin in all its manifestation. Those who harm others in words, actions or thoughts in the name of God have blind faith, not genuine faith.

The idea that faith is the conviction that impossible things will be possible by faith is incorrect in my view. Genuine faith provides the  fertile soil for the power of God to be planted and nothing more. Once planted the power of God which bears the laws of God will work itself out according to the laws of God. Thus events that are impossible according to the laws of God remain impossible. But the realm of what is possible within the laws of God is so vast that many a thing presently considered impossible by the human mind and its inventions are indeed possible. But, let me not veer off the  topic at hand.

This genuine faith that resides in the spirit has to consciously envelop the cloaks of the spirit including the physical body and its coordinating center - the brain. Only in such a way will a spirit with genuine faith work consciously within the laws of God. If the radiation connections between the spirit that has genuine faith and the various cloaks covering the spirit are impaired, then such a spirit with physical body or other cloaks will act or expect things that lies outside the laws of God and because they lie outside the laws of God, it will never come to pass. The power emanating from ones connection with God is all empowering that it gives one the impression that anything is possible and this initial experience has been the albatross of many blessed and gifted servants of God. They rushed too fast, yes they are connected with the power of God but the consciousness of the manifestations of this power of God in gross material realms have not broken through. Thus they make promises in the name of God which will never be fulfilled, either because such promises lie outside the laws of God or they contradict the laws of God. If you look around today across all religions, you will perhaps see the consequences of rushing too fast by many a blessed one.

Though it does not directly belong here, I will mention it. When Jesus became conscious that he is indeed an incarnation of the unsubstantiate love of God, a son of God, the divine power that just broke through his envelopes was overwhelming but the omniscience that will permit Jesus to work consciously according to the laws of God, the father have not yet broken through. It was at this turning point that Lucifer who became the Antichrist aimed his temptation. Lucifer believed that the best time for tempting Jesus is when he has become conscious of his divine power but not yet "fully" conscious of the application of this divine power. Lucifer then requested Jesus to prove his divinity by turning stones to bread,  at this point, the conscious application of the divine power broke through and Jesus rebuked the tempter "Though shall not tempt  the LORD your GOD". Lucifer know the laws of God and know that it is impossible to turn stones to bread. By this he wanted to undermine the mission of the son of God at the very beginning because if Jesus have gone to the multitude and commanded stones to become bread, then the command will be of no effect and the multitudes would have declared him an impostor and a fake miracle worker. Exploitation of seeming weaknesses is the hallmark of Lucifer, the Antichrist and his followers. As always stay blessed.

My view is that atheists, theists, agnostics and skeptics are justified in seeking for evidence with respect to claims of miracles. The "stomach of a pregnant woman cannot be hidden with a kalabash or over-wrapped with cloth". It is is the same for genuine miracles of healing. If it really happened, then the evidence is there for all to see. If it did not happen, then, no evidence will ever be found even if you set up a scientific committee made up of Nobel laureates in Medicine. And when there are no evidence, claimants of miracles and their followers will invent and re-invent different rationalizations to justify the absence of evidence.

Certain things we think are possible by the power of God are indeed impossible while some things science think are impossible are indeed possible with the power of God. To experience and learn about the various possibilities and impossibilities concerning the various creations of God is the responsibility of any soul who wants to stand consciously in the power of God. Without this, such a soul will pray for things that are impossible and it will never come to pass. It is intellectually comforting to believe that God can do anything in so far as he wills, but the truth is that God can only do those things that are in sync with his will. Looked from below, that is the earth, it appears as limitation, but viewed from above, it is a sign of omniscience.

The more we search for evidence with regard to these miracles, the more we learn or rather experience the working of the laws of God. The only difference between a genuine miracle and tales by the moonlight is the robust evidence provided in case of the former. No medical doctor will claim to have cured a patient of pancreatic cancer without providing the evidence for independent confirmation of his claims. Healing miracles by faith healers or any person who claims to be blessed by the power of God should not be treated  differently.  Best Wishes.

enitan2002:

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Hi enitan,

I have sent you a mail. Stay blessed.

ephisi:

Indeed the grail message is the greatest message ever sent down to man and i am an adherent. But on the contrary I have dissociated myself from the grail movement due to my recent experiences. Theres a certain level of secrecy even within the ranks of crossbearer/grail movement members. Most of the grail cross bearers are genuine and desire to live in puirity but are unaware of many things that are purposely kept away from them. Especially from the younger crossbeares. I only started discovering new things when I became a member. The grail movement is towing the same line as the christian religion which they cannot tolerate or stand. I was recently embarassesed by a crossbearer leader in one of their reading centers in lagos. I had just relocated from another city to lagos. I went there to findout how I could start worshiping with them in lagos.It was only there i discovered that there are 2 factions of the grailmovement . I was being harrased and embarassed because i didnt belong to their faction. I thanked God for my experiences that day cause the truth began to dawn on me. How many crossbearers know that there is a 1931 original edition of the grail message. How many of them know what led to the 3volume grail message everyone is reading now. only a few stakeholders and they keep the knowledge from others for whatever reason. I no fit shout. The truth can never be buried

I have been strugling with myself deciding on how to reconcile my conflict of my desire to associate and worship with my fellow crossbeares but yet dissociate myself from the movemnt. I still use the grail message eventhough its not easy because I have not been in contact with other crossbearers to encourage me. But i thank God for everything. Anyone who feels he can quash my allegations is free to comment here. thanks

Hi Ephisi. Thank you for sharing your experience. Even with the highest of spiritual guidance, the human spirit with his free will can always choose to disobey the laws of God. It should thus not surprise you that there are divisions, not even the two you mentioned but more within the Grail Movement. God did not institute movements, churches or religions and the Grail Movement is not an exception. Followers of prophets and truth bringers created religions, movements, churches etc. Thus the Grail Movement, various religions and sects are not the will of God. Followers always form religions or movements around prophets and truth bringers because they sense with the intellect but not the spirit. I am certain that the Grail Message is a revelation of the eternal truth. But the words, sentences and forms with which Abd-ru-Shin cloaked the divine truth in various planes of creation is not the Grail Message. The Truth is unlimited and boundless but forms with which the Truth is cloaked are limited. Thus words, sentences, thoughts and forms cannot convey they unimaginable purity of the word of God. If however an alert spirit opens the faculties of his spirit, he or she will be able to go beyond the limitations inherent in the envelopes or cloaks of the Truth and draw from the Truth. When one is permitted to draw from the living spring of the word of God, that is the Truth (not the cloaks with which the Truth is anchored), the experience is spiritually shattering that it is impossible to convey such experience in words and thoughts.

What I am saying is that the Grail Message has to be experienced in its intrinsic, unbound and living nature. Thus, my perception is that those who dispute which edition is correct or not are trapped within the limited and transient forms of the Truth. To consciously recognize God and the Grail Message, one must go beyond forms, words, sentences and thoughts. An alert spirit will recognize the Truth irrespective of which edition of the Grail Message he is privileged to come across. Indeed, the Grail Message can be recognized even without coming in contact with the editions of the physical form of the Grail Message.

When we have recognized the message of God the way I outlined above, only the desire to love God vibrates within our souls. This living in accordance with the will of God links one directly with the power of God, not with churches, movements or sects. You can turn to God in worship in your bedroom, in your office, in the mountains, in temples or cathedrals etc, that is, one stands perpetually in worship of God. There is nothing wrong in looking up to fellow human beings but one must remember that no one is so pure that he cannot yet stumble. Lucifer was a divine being and yet he failed, much less we human beings. At all things we have to subject ourselves to the guidance of God and the incomprehensible power of God will always guide a spirit that harbors the desire for it. I wish you strength. Stay blessed.