Christianity Etc › Re: Were Ancient Egyptians Fair Or Dark Skinned? by morpheus24: 4:09pm On Aug 27, 2009 |
Pictures of West Africans(Fulani, Ghana, mali)
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Christianity Etc › Re: Were Ancient Egyptians Fair Or Dark Skinned? by morpheus24: 3:57pm On Aug 27, 2009 |
Pictures of North east Africans(berbers, an upper egyptian, an ethiopian)
Black depends on what context you are using it.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Were Ancient Egyptians Fair Or Dark Skinned? by morpheus24: 3:45pm On Aug 27, 2009 |
Marlbron: There were slaves in the jesus era and they were blacks. There was also a thriving kingdom in Ethipia, did not mean tht they were the centre of the World. The New York of those days was Jerusalem, the epicenter of the world then, the melting pot of all nationalities.
There is no extra body except your own imagination. If Jesus ministered and preached for 3 1/2 years with his disciples, then on resurrection, if he is exactly the same, they will recognize him. That they failed to recognize him confirms the fact that his nature was changed. Mary seeing him as a gardener could only mean that he looked like a gardener and most hired help in those days were dark skinned. Jesus resurrected not as a white man, but as a coloured man. Tht would explain hy other disciples could neither recognize or believe him.
On another note, the early man is black, from scientific evidence. If the early man is black, then God's image and likeness is also black (he made us in his image). All descriptions of God (Dan 7:9 and Rev 1:15) describes someone of Negroid origin.
The earliest potrait of Jesus known to the Romans was that of a black man. The Romans knew this because the inprint of his face found on a cloth after resurrection was that of a black person. Where do you conjure up these stories from? What is your definition of a black man? Please I would like to know. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Were Ancient Egyptians Fair Or Dark Skinned? by morpheus24: 3:41pm On Aug 27, 2009 |
Ancient egyptians were African and therefore it is correct to say their adaptations would include dark skin as much of Africa is. Please note that the definition of "black" depends on who is using it and in what context.
The definition of causcasian is ambigious in nature and therefore should not be used in conjucture with color of skin.
The egyptians have been depicted as possesse a pigmentation consistent in Africa in both written documentation as well as wall paintings.
The constant pull back and forth by eurocentrists and Afro centrist about what morphology and skin tone the egyptians were is a distraction to their true identity.
What can be said is that it is very obvious that an Average ancient egyptian did not look like a Nordic european and therefore can not be categorized as such neither did they look like and average Yoruba man. Their closet relatives should be the ancient ethiopians and ancient northern berber tribes.
Africa is exteremly diverse phenotypically as well as genotypical so to say light or dark is putting them in simplistic contexts. |
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Romance › Re: Why Are Nigerian Women In The USA So Easy? by morpheus24: 2:46pm On Aug 27, 2009 |
To much competition! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists: Empirical Reasoning For The Existence Of God by morpheus24: 11:00pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
huxley: wheeere Deep Sight don go naah? Is he tired of his own arguments so quickly? He's sleeping with the fishes. |
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Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 10:58pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
asha 80: I believe in pragmatism and not waiting for 'the incorruptable guy' that might not come in my generation's life time. Don't mistake me for a dreamer. I am very much realist However the fact does still remain such men do come by once in a lifetime. |
Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 10:47pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
asha 80: You might wait for eternity for that until the various constitiuents that make up the country come to a viable way and option of running the country.Also not every successful country in europe is homogenous eg spain. They do come once in a generation. There are some men who are incorruptable. |
Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 10:37pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Beaf: True, it would take the movement of heaven for powers to even consider the position. If we reach that discussion, it would be because there is some sort of cataclysm threatening every comfort (legal and illegal) in the country and the only alternative is negotiation. In that light, it would be possible for agreements to be reached and enough time for the powerful to release their grip without losing face.
In my opinion, we are now approaching a do or die moment in Nigeria, I'm sure we'll rather sit down and talk than die.
If an agreement is reached and the various entities in the current agglomeration begin exploring and actualising their revenue potential; there will be such an explosion of financial opportunities all round that there should be minimal resistance. I agree with the threat of war as a negotiating tool to effect compromise or effect change as some block heads won't move an inch until someone scares the bejesus out of them, However I am petrified that this power is growing in the hands or may fall into the hands of individuals who I deem incompetent and whose actual motive is not the actualization of a stable nigeria but really are a disgruntled few who want a piece of the pie. They are not out for the people. The RUF started in this same fashion. Look at what they did to their own brothers. In the end was there real progress in sierra leone. I guess thats for the next generation to judge. As for Nigeria I have seen no politician nor group with the principles that demonstrate true patriotism even within a given ethnic groups. Until I hear and recognise that voice, Truthfuly I don't really know what the answer is. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists: Empirical Reasoning For The Existence Of God by morpheus24: 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Deep Sight: I agree with you!!! I did not state that any scientist has stated that the universe started from nothing. Slow down, and you will understand my basic premises. We cannot jump too far ahead in a discussion of this nature or we will easily get lost.
I did indicate that this is a very profound discussion which needs to be taken step by step.
We both agree that the universe did not come out of nothing - very good! We will take it step by step from there.
I started it from zero, because you may not be aware that some persons would go so far as to contest that and state that it could have come from nothing. Like i said, we are building a pyramid here, every block has to be in place, dont worry, its 1 careful step at a time GUIDO! FEED THIZ GUY TO THE FRIGIN FISHES! |
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Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 10:00pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Beaf: Why do you say so? Judging from how most African countries move at a snail's pace when trying to implement policy, that time frame looks unrealistic. even if such a resolution/contract is passed, the resistance by the old clergy is inevitable irrespective of ethnicity. It will take time for the weaning process znc z gradual ushering out of these people to be replaced by people who have proven tract records to strict adherance of law.The contract must be supported by a firm structural process. The process must be backed by strict rules and regulations which must be enforced without prejudice or favor. I can't see this being complete in span of 5 years. |
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Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 9:46pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Beaf: @morpheus24
I missed your post above (I'm one of those really slow typers)
I see where you are coming from when you talk about our social culture. A contract unique to Nigeria cannot be realistically followed to the letter immediately. There will need to a period of years (I would suggest 5) for all states to wean themselves off revenue from the FG, begin paying taxes to the center and build their local instituitions. That period would also serve as a time for every individual to get used to the new realities. 5 years is much too early for this process to even take effect. |
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Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 9:25pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Beaf: You forgot the detail about "The Treaty of Union". It is pretty detailed.
"The Treaty consisted of 25 articles.[4]
Article 1 provided for the new united Kingdom to be named Great Britain.
Article 2 provided for the succession of the House of Hanover, and for Protestant succession as set out in the English Act of Settlement.
Article 3 provide for the creation of the one, unified, parliament of Great Britain.
Articles 4–18 dealt with aspects of trade, movement, taxes, regulation etc to ensure equal treatment for all subjects of the new United Kingdom. Article 16 required the introduction of a common currency for Great Britain, subsequently effected through the 1707-1710 Scottish recoinage.
Article 19 provided for the continuation of Scotland's separate legal system.
Article 20 provided for the protection of heritable offices, superiorities, heritable jurisdictions, offices for life, and jurisdictions for life after the union.
Article 21 provided for the protection of the rights of royal burghs.
Article 22 provided for Scotland representation in the Parliament of Great Britain to be 16 Lords and 45 MPs.
Article 23 provided for Scotland's peers to have the same rights as English peers in any trials of peers.
Article 24 provided for the creation of a new Great Seal for the United Kingdom, different for the Great Seal of England (but that the English one could be used until it was created.)
Article 25 provides that all laws of either Kingdom that may be inconsistent with the Articles in the Treaty are to be declared void."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union I am fullly aware of the articles of the treaty which is why in my previous response stated my support for such contract unique to the Nigerian experience. Do you think our social culture has evolved to the level where even if such a similar contract adopted will prove sustainable. Contracts are "words" and learned behaviour is another. |
Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 9:03pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ehoi: We are forcing ourselves using the military. Mind you, I believe in one nigeria but not without justice, self determination of the regions and complete devolution of power. I agree with a contract btw citizen and state but am weary of the culture of corruption within the ranks of each ethnic group which promotes the self determination of the few over the many regardless of devolution of power. Though accountablity will be more transparent it doesn't change much if real change is not effected. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists: Empirical Reasoning For The Existence Of God by morpheus24: 9:00pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Deep Sight: @ mazaje - i am not a slavish adherent of anything fed to me by any one. You should have noticed that by now. It took me many years to arrive at my conclusions trust me. In the past i have been an Anglican, Jehovah's Witness, Rosicrucian, considered Islam, and almost Crossbearer. I have read the bible, the quoran, the grail message, and many Buddhist, Taoist, shintoist, and even hindu philosophies because i am a SEEKER. So don't worry, lets just reason along little by little, we will get there, THIS GUY!!!, I LIKE THIS GUY. AINT GONNA FEED YA TO THE FISHES FOR NOW. CARRY ON!! |
Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 8:45pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ehoi: The main point is we are being forced together without a working contract on how the nations, ethnic groups, religions and cultures are going to relate with each other for peaceful co-existence. Who is forcing us by the way? |
Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 8:39pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ehoi: I believe you are wrong but i won't argue with you because that is not the point i am making. Great britain-made up of [b]Eng[/b]land, [b]Scot[/b]land, wales and Northern [b]Ire[/b]land. Ethnic groups Engs_Angles people a of a germanic tribe, saxons, frisians, jutes Scotland/Wales_celts, welsh, Northern Ireland-Gaelic Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons.you see they started just like us but we are too stupid to learn from their mistakes. |
Politics › Re: Ethnicity Is Grinding Nigeria To A Halt by morpheus24: 8:22pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Ehoi: Its instructive that the europeans refuse to do what they want us to do. French people have their own country. Germans have their own country. English speaking people have their own country. Portuguise have their own country. Spanish speaking people have their own country. But in africa, they want to lump all of us together without a working contract. Can never work. They are using us to do experiment. every single country you mentioned were all made up of tribes and amalgamation of ethnic groups. |
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