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unapologetic: They are trying to make foreigners feel unwelcome... the people are great but this new policies will definitely put a lot of visitors and investors away and south Africans tend to focus more on the negativity of foreigners and not on the positive impact they've been making in their economy.

I am all for taking care of your citizens but when "people' are demonized and made scape goats for a governments failure to provide for its people the buck stops there.

Although immigration laws need to be revamped from time to time to address loop holes, these ones seem to deter legitimate immigrants from legalizing themselves in a sensible manner.

Apatheist: The irony of it all is that it will affect mostly the legal workers, expatriates, and their tourism industry.
While the "makwerekwere" they hate so much will just cross the Kosi Bay border and enter the country.
Employers prefer foreigners as they will work for less, are not lazy and will not strike every six months.

its already affecting expatriates. New rule is you cannot extend stay while on a tourist visa as most europeans and their SA partners were priviledged to do before the new law passed. What this will most likely do is cause a lot of seperation of families since many will be excluded for long periods of time if they overstay or leave the country without valid permits but trust onyinbo they will find loop holes and way round it.

They already did that when the country try to deprive them from having dual citizenship. The fought the laws in court and pressured the country to "technically" recognise dual citizenship without loosing south african citizenship.

THis comes as no surprise. Their people have been asking for stricter rules but of course this law will also affect a lot of european foriegners coming into the country.

EroZA: 1.How many black south Africans are studying in Nigerian schools
2.How many black south Africans are wandering on the street of Lagos and abuja
if having a tv in your mud hut
means life in your country let me tell u that since I was born I have never watch it connected to a generator...
let me tell u that you rather focus on creating good future for your kids and stop dreaming about nonexistent things.....

I don't know how any of that addressed any of the questions I posed or is even relevant. You must think I am ALL4Naija.

EROZA_
Claims Nigerians rush to SA as refugees from suffering in Nigeria

MOrpheu24
States that most political and economically marginalized Nigerians mainly from the SE and SS ethnic groups are the ones in South Africa looking for greener pasture similar to political and economically marginalized Afrikaner's who instead of staying and fighting for their rights in the new south africa choose to flee to other countries for the same greener pasture


EROza responds
a question with a question. How many south africans are studying in Nigeria? What is the relevance of that statement?

Bantu education is very bad!

charlos14: ou racist son of a bitch....RACISM kills......IF A WHITE PERSON SAYS THE SAME THING......YOU WOULD BE THE FIRST BITCHING AROUND...#STOP-REVERSE-RACISM-NOW

THere is no such thing as reverse Racism. Maybe prejudice but definitely not Racism. Thats a reserved title for the people who invented the practice.

Make them end game before pesin go murder one of this playa o!

EroZA: They left without fighting because nobody fought them ...
south Africa is not competing with any country,unfortunately that perception does NT exist here,if we were competing with you guys,I don't think our government would allow anyone to invest in that country..why can't you swallow your pride and say we are trying to copy everything from SA,one day we shall be there...

1. I don't know what you are insinuating by stating that "they left without fighting becasue nobody fought them". Either you are just responding for the sake of or you are not sure of what to say...??

2. The above statement simply shows you don't have a television set in your shack neither do you follow much of African geo-politics.

3. The South African model cannot and will not fit the Nigerian growth model, The regions are quite different historically, politically and demographically, To do that would be silly.

4. The average Nigerian really knows nothing bout SA cept what they hear mostly from their South Eastern brothers. I'd like to see the expression of someone from Katsina state when asked what a "makwerekwere" means

EroZA: Indeed you are not allergic to people in Madagascar futhi I never saw a thread on this forum talking about that country,the question goes back to u why are you people zooming your eyes on SA?I know the answer,never mind answering
if indeed you views are shared by an average Nigerian,let me tell you that you still have along way to go as a nation,one can be grateful to this forum for exposing the hidden Nigerian colonized mindset...when a Nigerian tells me about what is happening in his country,who am I to shout with my loud voice ...you seem to know everything about SA than your native land...i told you that when black people took power,there are white people who left...not surprisingly you gave me a Nigerian version view point,you even go beyond asking me why those white people did not fight for their country..chief stop exposing your weaknesses

"why are you people zooming your eye on SA....Thats very easy to answer, we don't need to hide, there is no deception of thought here. .

1. SAfrica is one of the last countries in Africa to become "truly" independent and not much was known about it per "african affairs".

2. IT is unique in its attitude towards other African countries and "not" Nigeria.

3. There is a wide perception that Nigeria is competing with South africa on the continent in terms of political and economic prowess. This is evident and should not need explaining.

4. There are a good number of economic migrants from Nigeria and reside in the country.

As regards to "exposing your weakness".... You claim the ones that did not want to be ruled by Blacks left the country. I ask ,why did they leave in the first place, why not fight.

Simple answer is they feel marginalized so they pack up and look for greener pastures in other countries that can absorb them, much the same as any marginalized ethnic group in Nigeria, point being that the movement is primarily one of ECONOMIC advantage.

Question to ERoZA:

1. How many Hausa,Fulani, Nupe, Kanuri, Berom, Ebira, Adamawa peoples from Nigeria do you find or can you identify in South Africa and why don't you see them. Aren't they Nigerian too

2. WHy do most marginalized ethnic groups from Nigeria reside within South Africa?

Bantu education is bad. You expose yourself not me

EroZA: Making useless argument is in your hormones that's why am not surprised to hear you mixing issues...we living with white people,those who did not want to be ruled by blacks left...i wonder why you Nigerians don't want to accept that south Africa belongs to both white and black,keep your beautiful Nigeria ,we shall keep our dirty south Africa...let me tell you that we are happy with what we have.,those who are not happy have rights to show their unhappiness...but not Nigerians...if is for you ,just continue living your life under the guidance of your ancestors,since you are allergic to seeing people of different color living together,you can go and claim all the black people in Europe and America,we shall see if they would like to associate themselves with people like you...

Point 1 "those who did not want to be ruled by blacks left..."...bold face lie, they are what you will refer to as expatriates in mostly english speaking countries with strong family and physical ties to the SA. They pretty much are equal to African migrants who are seeking better ecnomic communities. WHy did they not stay and fight their south African "government" too if your claim is valid

Point 2 You can keep singing that cumbaya White/Black unity, it will not change human nature a. A people who continue to believe they are superior to another and therefroe are entitled to a majority of resources in a given area will dubiously tolerate the so called "lesser" peoples only if they continue to thrive within that society without giving up "priviledges"

Point 3. South Africa is not the only country with diverse people of different origins and shades. A shining example of a fully intergrated multi- colored society is Madagascar. Why am I not allergic to them and why do they not have severe racial issues?


Bantu education is terrible my bru!

EroZA: Come here and vote for julias
I never mentioned corruption,I mentioned equality,tell me is Nigeria an equal society?if the answer is yes,how many people are owning private jets and how many are bare footedly selling tap water on the streets....?20 years down the line I can proudly say my government is doing something particularly for the poor...since 1960 what is it that your government is doing for you clever people?instead of fighting for your rights...you are flocking into foreign lands and seek refuge...

1. Corruption is a precursor to inequality. It existed in Apatheid, it exists now in South Africa so I don't see the difference.

2. I can proudly say that my people create wealth for themselves inside and outside of the country, irrespective of what government is doing,

3. The last point you mentioned still doesn't change the fact that after 20 years the so called people whom you think want to live in peace with you really want to enjoy their ownership of all they have acquired in SA in "peace" which is why they gave up political power in exchange for retention of economic power and your government will forever be subject to them because they are capitalists that hold all the "chips" and continue to create jobs for ya'll massess!.

you can continue to toi toi for centuries that equation will never change. They'sll just rearrange it for a bit, shut you guys up and then start all over again.

Some change

EroZA: Unfortunately for you my friend,if you are not happy to see black and white south africans living together you will have to learn to live with it otherwise you will die with no peace of mind,by the way how many people are owning private jets in your equal society Nigeria?more than 70% are living in extreme poverty....since there are no foreigners controlling your economy,where is your money going?

You seem to think I advocate "Killing the BOer", no no no......I am not as sadistic and heartless as the Afrikaner.

Everyone should live in peace, This is about resource allocation.

I know there is corruption in my country that causes abject poverty for the masses. That's a given.

However why is it that 95% of a White minority both foreign and domestic continue to enjoy an enclave like Camps bay or stellanbosh and refuse to "invite" you guys in to come and live in "peace" with them as fellow equals after 20 years of freedom,


As the Naija saying goes... "Shine your eyes"

Up Julius!!!

EroZA: Mr big head with no brain I told you that the world is a global village today that is why your country men and women are owning land in the UK....SA is a good country to live in that's why everyone wants to have a piece of this beautiful thing....let me remind you and your ancestors...SA belongs to all who live in it black or white,if you Nigerians are not happy with it,go and die

Ah yes, the famous Mandela/Freedom charter quote..." all who live in it".. he should have rephrased that to "all who can afford it", seeing that you guys are ready to chase out the "poor" ones and the white foreigner is quite pleased with that line seeing that it protects him.

Again stop your cum baya bru ha ha-ing. 49 million black people, 5 million white people.

CAMPS BAY RESIDENCE:

Population demographic that own houses there 95% White foreigner

Population demographic that walk dogs to the beach there 95% black

Shouldn't this reflect otherwise.

Bantu education, I tell ya!

EroZA: oh I forget that your country is still in isolation,the world has changed my friend,how many Nigerians are owning properties in UK?are they not foreigners owning properties in foreign land?shoprite owns several lands in your remote country,what do you make of that?
dont expose your ancient thinking

such a dummy. Go and find an Onyinbo foreigner with wards of property in Nigeria to the deriment of the indigenes. WHen you do come let me know.

Shoprite is a business entity you slowpoke, much like KFC is in south Africa. Thats not what I am talking about.

Bantu education , i tell ya!

Meanwhile all the Europeans are pricing you out of land in the western cape which one time forced your government to order a moratorium on land purchase by foreigners but ofcourse the "white" powers that be quenched that query.

soilsista: It means you're boring...

Dan buru ba!

EroZA: Who are the foreigners owning land in SA?comrade south Africa belongs to all who live in it,blacks and whites,if Nigerians are not happy about that unfortunately we are happy about it...
since you mentioned inequality,people are beating their chests about owning private jets in your country,do you have one?believe you me there is no existence of equality on this planet...we do have ways of addressing our problems in this country but AK47 is not one of them

Many foreigners owning land in your country pricing you out of the good life. All you need to do is take a plane fro your township to cape town and wonder round a little.

Mampara, I tell you!

Mamparas running round in SA.

Nurse, 300 Miligrams of HALDOL!,

RoderickBernao: you apes cant even build a simple house or manage a simple farm. if we didnt feed you or take care of you pathetic race you would all starve and die of diseases like nature intended for you missing links
so hilarious to see blacks of course blame everyone on whites while they CANT DO ANYTHING FOR THEMSELVES LOLOLOLOLO
keep making up stories and lies though doesnt change how much of you are starving and killing eachother
you like you computer, your internet, your chair, your cellphone...what about your sunglasses or shoes or jeans....hope you all enjoy things whites have created and built that your race couldnt conceive in another million years LOLOLOLOLOLO
your all losers and a joke. keep failing
blacks have an iq of like 70. my iq is 60-66 points higher then you urchins lol
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

THe usual western propaganda.

Give back all you stole from the continent in the name of "colonialism" you diseased, resource sucking, greedy neanderthals who are about to destroy this planet and run away to your new colony on the mars!

macof: by this you probably mean Fulani people. I don't know much about fula, fulaman would answer better

Arid region dwellers have adaptations that are similar to each other in Africa probably due to generations of diet, bottle neck effects and genetics

All the below individuals are arid/sahel dwellers and exhibit elongated limbs and head shapes different from a typical west or central African.

macof: Ok but You can't classify people like the Somali as Negroid.
Wat then is the technical classification?

Negroid should be used in its strict anthropological designation.... describing the cranio-metric and body morphology of "typical" interior Africans (West, east and central Africans) excluding Khoisans of the south.

The correct anthropological designation to identify the cranio metrics and body morphology of a horner would be Aethiopid... not the erroneous Afro-Caucasoid....

Many people in Africa fall within a spectrum of so called "negroid" and "Aethiopid

macof: Technically Somalis aren't 'black'. The Negroid race are the Western and central Africans stretching to the South
Your people are best placed as Hamitic

False anthropological terminology.

Hamitic is a pseudo-nomencleture used by the "old world" using biblical references by non Africans in recognition of the first black people they encountered in mostly the coastal parts of Africa.

Fulaman198: No explanation for that black is much more than west African and Bantu. There are nilotic people and sahelians as well. You can add horners too.

Personally I now prefer the term.."old world black" taking in to consideration there are a variation of black people in the new worlds.

Somali are old world blacks......

AwodwaGyanOniwe:
Moratwa,Zetdee,Dicto and GraigB CHECK THIS OUT.
https://www.nairaland.com/1573425/enugu-village-100-people-1909/8

And the picture spamming Makwerekwere strikes again.

You so do miss the other thread don't you.

Objection!...misleading the thread viewers

Verdict...Zero points!!

RSA: Does it really matter what a Nigerian think about South Africa? Just let them be,they're a cursed nation. They fight with every nation including themselves.
South African blacks have nothing to prove to this haters,it's in their nature.
After their next election they'll be slaughtering each other ,just wait and see.

Always hiding in the cut

When did this thread change to Ghana vs Nigeria?

all4naija: Jeez! Could you imagine what you've just said? How daring it is to know that Nigeria has become a threat to South Africa for the fact we are progressing and condemning every evil act within the continent. I would bring to your attention any time that we don't condone any act of xenophobic attack and crime the reason why you keep hating on us.
Another very important that has been disturbing you is that Nigeria is going to become Africa largest economy in the very near future. That has really garner most of your people's enviousness that you go about Nigeria's poor infrastructure and accusing us in your posts. Hoping to bring the people down so that you can show this superiority sh*t that you have successfully used to deceive Ghanaians and Kenyans to take side with you. We aren't those people who lack self-confidence. We are Nigerians who could trampled on South African blacks any day if we want to. But, we are going to do that due to the fact that we are getting more civilized than before. That means we are getting rid of primitive and fool things in our lives and country by embracing modern world.
1.How are South African youths blessed when large part of them still live in the squalor of Townships in a very rich country?
2.The future that is bleak ever than before in that society.The nation has not seen crimes like it is seeing today. Foreigners haven't been target like it is seen in most of your cities presently and just to mention but a few.Things that make your future looks gloomy and hopeless.
Why would I have sleepless over xenophobic people? This is what I don't understand about you. Each time I talk about the evils of your society you will scold my for it and say it doesn't concern me when you are hacking African immigrants to death including Nigerians.What more can I say of people who think they have the right to do what they like to others in their society?!
Thank you.

Tell them o!

Tumisang: ...and you sound so so smart [s] for sticking your big àss nose in things that have absolutely nothing to do with you.
This whole butting in thing must be a naaigerian trait I wasn't aware of [/s]

Why thank you.

I appreciate that you have noticed this.

******ITS OBVIOUS**** in julius malema voice

Ogobara: "sub" sahara; why not south sahara? I alway feel something silly with the pupose of this word; sub, like sub human, sub is closer to "inferior"; yet they never call North Africa as "supra" sahara or just sahara.

Heard that arguement before. It only connotates inferiority if you subconciously "super" impose that meaning when the word "sub" is used. South of the sahara is fine but ""sub" does not necessarily have to to mean "inferior". It simply means "below" when looking at a 2D map of Africa without denying its use to obviously seperate the Arabs/Amazighs from indigenous Africans, which I don't mind since I am not an Arab fan anyways.

The word southern Africa and South Africa also describe the southern hemisphere of the country.

Case in point:

We all are guilty of using the word "denigrate" in the english language, when the origins of the word actually derive from the latin word "nigrare" which means "black". Therefore denigrate would mean "to blacken" someone.

^^^^^

Tufiakwa!

SalayGirl: aLL Niggers will alwas be slaves for all other races to wipe their feet on ....

"Nigger"

Ethymology of word

latin.... nigrare

Spanish.....negro


Corrupted european version..........Nigger



As regards ethiops and Somalis, one possible reason for continous hostilities will definitely be the xtian history of the ethiops vs the infiltration of islam in Somali.

I'll agree with one thing here.


They definitely created all the religious intolerance which is gradually spilling into Sub saharan Africa

Tumisang: Begging - you already have
Saying sorry - will do so once I'm done with ya
What did those poor animals ever do to you that made you spend a large proportion of your live eating them into extinction just so you can counter your feelings of insecurity by creating a situation in which you become the centre of attention?
Lol, Huge population indeed. You ate your rabbits and now you've become rabbits.
Is that a fact? Well in that case name one significant animal which can only be found in Naai-geria.

you really are sounding more and more silly the more you chase al4naija around

you both should open your own thread and spout.

CraigB: Joke of the season!
Joke of the year 2014, which doubles up as an April foôls thingie-mabob for April 1, 2014 already.
You can up the number of casualties to 100, if you like.
When we wake up tomorrow; and the day after; and the day after; and the day after, Boko Haram will be here.
No victory shall be declared. Not in this decade. Live with it.
Your guns and weak propaganda will never win this for you. Brains, which you unfortunately don't have, might get you in with a chance.

you beginning to sound like an old broken record

for real!