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Is this the same OP i'm in the same award committed with?

i thought he was joking o!

Deep Sight: I am not aware that this question has been addressed at any time anywhere by anyone. . . . .

Can you refer me?

Really? Lol. I'm not gonna do this with you. . .

plaetton: Mr Troll, you make me proud. Please keep on Trolling.

Am i supposed to jump up or cry?

aManFromMars: So your sense reach this level..

You might be a visa away from freedom..

Oya na. Pray Pray Pray!!! Hehehehehehehe

Pastor Olu T: Then he has missed it altogether, 'cos there are so many things science is yet to find answers to!

and let me guess. . . You guys have the answers? Hehehehehe. Jokers.

Joshthefirst: lol. Hope you wouldn't have lost all your teeth.

what do you mean? I'm only 16 going on 17

Pastor Olu T: I am not trying to sacre u, just telling u reality would soon done on u either u joke with it or not.

ok

Deep Sight: But really and truly, the questions remain - - - >

Yo man, this question has been trashed severally in other threads and i have no wish to start here all over again.

The simple fact is that we really don't know. If you say God did it, good for you but the scientific community will not stop trying to find out because of the God Of The Gaps.

Joshthefirst: alright. The bible says mourn with those who mourn. Wey muskeeto? Abeg musk pass me that weed wey you dey smoke may I throway am for dustbin

lol. I actually smiled at this. You're making progress. Try harder, maybe by 2032 you'll actually make me laugh

obadiah777: this nigga speaking swahili smdh

I was speaking in tongues you heathen!

wiegraf: There have always been remarkably fo.olish threads, always. Difference being they were at least balanced out by fairly decent ones. Now it looks like 99% $hit to me. But that could be just me

Be rest assured that you are not alone. . .

Joshthefirst: evolution of course. We can evolve a mind. All other answers are foolish and not to be taken seriously.

No! You misunderstand!!

GOD!!! did it. Case closed. We can stop wondering now and go back to sleep.

Pastor Olu T: Smile, u just bit more than u can chew!

chai! I'm shaking in my boots right now *shivering in fright*

oh! Shiver me timbers.

Joshthefirst: yeah. Coming to nigeria might either reinforce her faith, or leave her like you perhaps.
Just like moving from nigeria turned most o you guys atheists.

There is absolutely no way coming to Nigeria will reinforce her faith. Its either she converts or remain the same, albeit with increased knowledge and sadness for the circus show that is religion in Nigeria. Ask JeSoul. . .

Pastor Olu T: So there are no demons?

Of course there are. . .



















. . . In your heads.

Ishilove: Toh. I won't argue with you. Just one encounter with the other side will disabuse you of this notion.

pls send them over. Can they be sent through the internet? Hehehehe. Cyber demons.

Joshthefirst: What is the purpose of this thread?

This is where we all meet up to cry over spilt milk.

obadiah777: wagwan pon ya end Mr Troll ? whayasay man ?

micr trodunik tryinalst wysolit ukrl! Jah Rastaman!!!

I'm good bro.

Logicboy03: You think time will convert someone like olaadegbu? Lmao. E be like say you no get mad man for ur village

Anything is possible bro.

On a serious note though, you can't possibly convert everybody na, can you? Relax, its a marathon not a sprint.

Logicboy03: Endorse what?

Na downward spiral....

Be dreaming of a revival. The current crop of new xtians here make joshthefirst look like a genius

hehehehehe

cool down bros, as Judas Muskeeto will say "time brings more converts than reason"

Logicboy03: Well, there is tithe and there is executive donation that donates range rovers to pastors.


You are not yet a VIP tither

We're getting there. The Spag Monster will come through for us very soon. . .

Deep Sight: It is not escapist to say that you cannot have a philosophical discussion on an image of a stone, because we all see the stone subjectively and "every mind interpretes every image in different ways"?

The same principle should halt all scientific inquiry and all reasoned discussions.

No na. I don't think thats what Plaetton meant(again, we're back to subjective understanding). Considering the fact that he knows your worldview, you know his and then this thread is a philosophical matter concerning theist-atheist worldviews, it simply means that however we may want to interpret it will be relation to our specific worldview and cannot therefore be objective. That is what i got from his post, still it doesn't stop him from contributing. At least i did na, abi?

@LB

obadiah777: its the cycle of life brother. hot and cold, hot and cold, hot and cold. hot and cold.

Endorsed!

Logicboy03: Ways ur own choice?

I don already donate tithe na! Which kain pastor be this wey de look for opinion of im congregation?

Is this the thread where we all cry, hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

Logicboy03: Sorry, pls explain

He said "displacer it is" so his answer is not none of the above.

Deep Sight: I rest my case on the bold words above: it is possible to observe your environment and decipher a truth therein.

Otherwise there should exist nothing like science.

Yes, you're generally correct but then they had education and a basic knowledge on how to think and probe, do good research and come up with new facts. THIS they were taught.

Note that we did(or at least I) not say that no objective truth can be gotten from any subject. I only said that what we call objective truth are what the larger society has agreed on, probably because a vast majority(not everyone) see it the same way.
So, your post in red is a strawman. At least concerning what i have been stating.

By the way, i do not see Plaetton's response as escapist especially if you are agreeing with it. Simply saying and insisting it is so does not make it so

*peeps in, sees thread on FP, unfollows thread*

make una enjoy the sea. . .

Ishilove: E be lyk sey you nefa jam African demon before

More like african foolishness. . . And illiteracy despite university education.

Read his very first statement

Deep Sight: That is actually contrary to what Plaetton has alluded to.

His words -

"In other words, a person's reality can be accessed, interfered with, influenced and deliberately reshaped.

Social evolution and it's modern adjunct form, social engineering, depends largely on the ability of one or a few to influence and shape the reality of the many through a variety of psychological re-inforcement mechanisms such as religion, political ideology, military conquest or economic hegemony.

My point in all this is that mind does not have any absolute truths of it's own except that which it has been conditioned to see."

- - - > Suggest therefore that it is actually these schools, and the other "psycological reinforcement mechanisms" which he mentioned, that now influence the mind into thinking this or that. See the bold above - he said, "no absolute truths except that which it has been conditioned to see."

Thus he is saying that everything that one sees is just what one is conditioned to see and is no objective truth.

If I look at my television, and state that it is a television, I could equally be told that I only say that because that is what I have been conditioned to see. Someone else somewhere else may be conditioned to see it as a large picture frame. And this remains true. But in a discussion seeking to unravel the nature of the television, anyone can halt the discussion through Plaetton's statement. No objective truth about the television set can be known because we only see what we are conditioned to see.

And taken to the extreme, even where ten different people see the television set as a television set, it can be argued that each person has been conditioned to see the other nine people agreeing with him, and it may in fact not be the objective truth that they are agreeing with him.

As I said before, all existence collapses into meaninglessness.

Actually he is right, albeit in the most fundamental way for all you know Deepsight is what you have been taught right from childhood up till this moment etc.

In order to resolve this seeming contradiction in our statement, i say that what we consider objective truth is what the larger society as a whole has agreed upon despite what our individual minds may imagine. For example, a TV is a TV because the society has agreed to call it that. A child who grew up in isolation might have no idea what it is until is told/suggested to him that that is a TV. This is precisely why we say that some people are colour blind, simply because they don't see colour the way the larger society has decided that it is to be seen. . .

Deep Sight: As an aside, let me say that I purposely hunted for a picture of a brain which would show the connections to the eyeballs right in front of it.

Ok. Interesting. Didn't see it from that perspective.

You are indeed right in striking upon the similarity between the rock and the brain - both are matter, or are said to be composed of matter.

At some point in the history of the earth in its solar system, all the matter that existed were lifeless matter - such as the rock, as an example. There would be solid, liquid and gaseous matter, but all lifeless matter all the same. Somehow, over time, this lifeless matter is said to have combined, grown, evolved and coalesced in such a manner as to produce, not just life, but also the highest form of life known, the human brain.

I would like to point out here that not all the mechanism of how it happened is fully known but the evidence around for now all point towards the conclusion. . .

Choosing to show the brain from that perspective showing the connection to the eyes, was because of the thought that there is, in that coagulation of matter which has become living, there is something there that has a need for sight. A need to see. A need to look around the world around it. It will be interesting to discuss this point and what that thing is. What is that thing. I think we can discuss this further.

Technically, the eye does not see. It is the brain that sees. The eye is simply a conduit for light waves. . .

This connection you have shown is not limited to humans alone, i hope you know that and whatever the need is to see, it definitely is not limited to humans and their larger brains alone.