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Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 6:37am On Nov 01, 2013
Kay 17: Also everyone assumes the human sight/mind is perfect to capture the message from the pictures. Why shouldn't we believe our perception could be impaired, by bias for example.
this is the argument plaetton was making and which DS was spitting upon.
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 6:31am On Nov 01, 2013
Joshthefirst: you don't believe you're special? You're no different from the animal? Its a wonder your life is in direct difference to your thoughts.
don't assume you know my life bros.

That being said, do you have any idea how big the earth is in relation to our solar system let alone the observable universe?
Christianity EtcRe: Could These Terrible Dreams Suggest She Is Possessed? by MrTroll(m): 6:28am On Nov 01, 2013
Ishilove: Leave grama.
leave willful ignorance. angry
Christianity EtcRe: 5 Problems With Heaven! by MrTroll(m): 6:25am On Nov 01, 2013
Ajibam: the very one that created you and still have mercy for your perishing soul
WHICH ONE!!!? Can't you guys answer a simple question?
Christianity EtcRe: End Of Year Awards Organisation Thread. Panel Members Only by MrTroll(m): 6:21pm On Oct 31, 2013
I vote 2.
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 6:09pm On Oct 31, 2013
For you to involve design, then you have to state purpose. All we see in the theists explanation for design are merely 'human-centric' explanations...because of we we we humans. The special special homo sapien. Created for blah blah blah with --- version of the anthropomorphic god. E don tire me...
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 6:02pm On Oct 31, 2013
Deep Sight: I really don't know what you think I mean by intuition. However you must know very well that I base my discussions not on intuition alone, but cardinally on Logic.
I assume it is the dictionary meaning?

Be that as it may,we already know what those pictures you posted were meant to represent. Like I said before, I only decided to address them just as some sort of mental exercise.

Let me give you an example...assuming we are in say, 1600BC and we know nothing about how lightning is formed, intuitively we can say that the gods are responsible for lightning and on occasions where it kills some persons, we can come to a logical conclusion that maybe the gods were angry at the person for some reason or the other. Until we know better, it will seem foolish for some people to assert that lightning is in fact a natural phenomena and that the dead persons were just unfortunate without presenting an alternate explanation. I hope you get the point... The fact that we cannot explain some things eg consciousness is no reason to invoke GOD!!!

To be perfectly honest, the arrangement of those pictures were meant to suggest the presence of something other than what is evident, eg the thinking man and the boy and corpse. But all I see is wishful thinking. Give me a dead man DS and tell me the cause of death and I can explain it medically to you...nothing spiritual or supernatural will be involved. Nothing fantastic like say, Breath of life grin

The theist position is simply a God Of The Gaps and it will continue for a long time because there will always be things unknown in this universe. The theist position is in fact the position of the lazy mind. tongue
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 10:14am On Oct 31, 2013
long time i no show cheesy

anyway, i think this thread has been derailed with unnecessary word play but then let me make my simple and probably final contribution...


while the argument for the existence of god/gods is inconclusive, it is quite naive to come such a conclusion based on intuition or logic alone as DS will like us to believe.


mankind has intuited falsely about a lot of things in the past...the cause of lightining, thunderstorms, the Sun etc. it is complex ignorance and escapism to say that just because we see a very complex entity then it is logical to conclude GOD!!!

this position poses more questions than answers and you, DS knows that. you have been asked severally on this forum to explain your concept of God and every month we see new explanations. there are some things the atheist do not know about the universe but it is cowardice and escapist to make fantastic assumptions about them without any proof or evidence whatsoever. saying GOD!!! kills of every avenue for enquiry. it merely states the position we were already assuming. God created the universe? for what? pray tell....

i do not state that there is no god. i simply say that i do not believe in god because i see no evidence for any, and that includes your deist god DeepSight. i could intuit all i want but it all boils down to conclusive evidence. if i cant get that then all i eventually did was wishful thinking....

where is your conclusive irrefutable evidence for GOD!!!? show us and let us examine it. until then, save us your fantastic theories and intuition.
Christianity EtcRe: Could These Terrible Dreams Suggest She Is Possessed? by MrTroll(m): 9:00am On Oct 31, 2013
Autosuggestion, confirmation bias, superstition, complex ignorance etc. mix it all in a giant pot of religion....and voila! Nigeria @53.

make una carry go.
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Complaints Thread (sticky) by MrTroll(m): 8:55am On Oct 31, 2013
striktlymi: Complaint




Whenever a member gets a ban on nairaland, it is usually the practice for a reason to be given in his 'profile' page for any such ban, and I am of the view that when the reason given is not clear enough to him/her, the member has every right to seek an explanation in order to understand why the ban was placed in the first place.

Placing a ban of one year is very uncommon in these paths of nairaland and whenever such rare occasion props up, it is usually backed by a very sound reason. The fact that LB had sought an explanation for his ban shows that he is yet to understand the rationale behind it and it will boil down to a miscarriage of justice if his request is snubbed, hence my complaint.

Logicboy03 deserves to know the following:

1) Why he was banned.
2) The justification for his ban.
3) Why the ban had to be for one year.

If the appropriate justification cannot be provided for the above, satisfactorily, then I am left with no option than to ask that my account be banned for one year also, and this I ask with the utmost of respect for you, HBG.
is HBG going to pretend, again that she didint see this?
Christianity EtcRe: End Of Year Awards Organisation Thread. Panel Members Only by MrTroll(m): 9:46am On Oct 30, 2013
una don confuse me with all the plenty plenty different suggestions. lets no go over board with the prizes though. . .each category winner can get one of their topic on the FP while the overall winner can get 3 topics on FP and 1 sticky for about 1 or 2 months
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 12:18am On Oct 29, 2013
Uyi Iredia: It isn't in fact. It dares to question the puzzle of existence without any lazy resort to divine power.
shocked Uyi dared say this to deepsight? Wow! End Time Things. . .
Christianity EtcRe: The Satanic Chatbox. Everybody Is Welcome by MrTroll(m): 12:15am On Oct 29, 2013
texanomaly: awww...you know I love ya kiss
embarassed
Christianity EtcRe: The Satanic Chatbox. Everybody Is Welcome by MrTroll(m): 12:14am On Oct 29, 2013
Alfa Seltzer: You are in the wrong country.
undecided Which is. . . ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Reality by MrTroll(m): 9:22pm On Oct 28, 2013
rationalmind: Lol, has it gotten to this? Can't you understand english any longer? I never said belief in evolution is silly. I said "let's say". Is that difficult to understand?

Lol. So, God can make a donkey talk. Clap for yourself. Your reasoning is sublime. Ure in the same league with betrand russel and the likes.
oh please! don't take the joke too far. who is Bertrand Russell compared to The Joshthefirst?
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Atheists!!! by MrTroll(m): 9:19pm On Oct 28, 2013
Logicboy03: Sharrap.


Keep hating cos you aint got evangelist swagg cheesy
undecided if only you knew...
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Atheists!!! by MrTroll(m): 9:10pm On Oct 28, 2013
Logicboy03: Dont let the guy decieve you.....he owes his atheism to me.

He's ma boy...


Uyi Iredia, WHO'S YOUR DADDY? cheesy

COME TO PAPA grin grin
for your mind o!

oya go use am find work na.
Christianity EtcRe: The Satanic Chatbox. Everybody Is Welcome by MrTroll(m): 9:08pm On Oct 28, 2013
texanomaly: tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
angry
Christianity EtcRe: The Satanic Chatbox. Everybody Is Welcome by MrTroll(m): 5:17pm On Oct 28, 2013
^^^

video has been blocked on copyright grounds...
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Atheists!!! by MrTroll(m): 4:51pm On Oct 28, 2013
texanomaly: The band, or the act of? tongue
there's a band called Public Disturbance? hehehehe
Christianity EtcRe: The Satanic Chatbox. Everybody Is Welcome by MrTroll(m): 4:40pm On Oct 28, 2013
this is boring. angry
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Reality by MrTroll(m): 4:34pm On Oct 28, 2013
Joshthefirst: I think its near impossible grin
But don't listen to mr troll. angry He's even trolling his own home country. Smh
Edit: @ troll, who told you we'd be lynched for talking about gods existence?
Stop making a bad impression. angry
nah! i'm being careful bros. we are a fanatic people, afraid of shaking up the status quo.
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Reality by MrTroll(m): 4:32pm On Oct 28, 2013
texanomaly: Hadn't thought of that. Hmmm. Guess we will actually have to have a civilized conversation. Do you think the group we are putting together can pull that off? grin wink
what group? who are the members of said group?
Christianity EtcRe: What Has Happened To This Section? Even The Mods Are AWOL? Thanks, Seun! by MrTroll(m): 4:27pm On Oct 28, 2013
Logicboy03: had you spent time in the real world rather than waste your life in the church, you would have known that weed is bad for the belly, it makes you hungry and on an empty stomach, you could vomit
this guy!

don't you know a figure of speech when you see one?
Christianity EtcRe: Testimony Of How An Atheist Got Save by MrTroll(m): 10:57pm On Oct 27, 2013
Divepen: shey u don d link
For what? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Reality by MrTroll(m): 10:55pm On Oct 27, 2013
texanomaly: Of course I do.

The death and reserection of Jesus Christ fulfilled the law. Because of this, a higher law was given.

And no I don't now want to now have a debate about it.

We will have plenty of that when we all get together. Lord help us on that day. tongue
What!? You want to get me lynched abi? Debating the existence of god in public in 9ja? Hahahahaha. Nice try tongue
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Reality by MrTroll(m): 10:27pm On Oct 27, 2013
^^^

huh I'm confused here. Were you addressing me or Josh?
Christianity EtcRe: Testimony Of How An Atheist Got Save by MrTroll(m): 10:24pm On Oct 27, 2013
The only thing i saw there as a compelling reason was his fear of HELL!!! Lol, really?


People do convert from atheism to christianity, to islam etc and vice versa but this has got to be one of the silliest reasons around i've ever heard. For this reason i think this story is false. Anyway. . . Whatever floats your boat.cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Reality by MrTroll(m): 10:13pm On Oct 27, 2013
Joshthefirst: smh. I did not bring you here to rate the thread. I invited you so you'd see truth.
hehehehehe. I couldn't resist quoting this. For some reason i just couldn't stop laughing.grin

@Tex, i hope you realise the implications of saying that your gods morality changed from the old testament to the new testament?
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 9:58pm On Oct 27, 2013
plaetton: You are the one who is being comical.
Your comprehension skills show a marked decline.

I have said something 3 times and yet you deliberately( for cheap cheers from Joshthfirst perhaps) pretend not to know what I am pointing at.

You invited thoughts(in fact, you specifically asked readers to think deeply) on a couple of visual images, did you not?
You were inviting the reader's subjective inferences, were you not?
So where was the objectivity therein?

What any one sees objectively and what they infer subjectively from any visual image will differ from person to person.
Therefore, subjective truth should be seen as an oxymoron, unreliable, most especially regarding the existence or non-existence of god..
That was and is still my point.
C'mon man, how long will it take you to understand that?

Of course , you are free to discuss subjective or objective realities.
There is no crime in that, and I have made that point too.

I cannot challenge you about what is inside your head.

The error, which you are particularly fond of, is the attempt to forcefully superimpose your subjective reality into objective reality of others.
They hardly fit.
This is the problem with other thing called faith, and religion(and we can see how well that has served humankind.)
That is where you will be challenged.
The thing tire me. Just after my second reply to his post, i understood where all this was heading to. . .
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by MrTroll(m): 8:19pm On Oct 27, 2013
Deep Sight: This statement is a trick, and an old tired one at that.

Feign shock and surprise over the fact that someone else is supposedly ignorant of an issue in order to avoid having to address it.

Please find a better trick.
Check the last 5 pages of your thread "Who The Hell Said The Big Bang And Evolution Explain Life?"

and also, do you remember the reason why you opened the thread?

Do you still think i'm being trickish?
Christianity EtcRe: Could These Terrible Dreams Suggest She Is Possessed? by MrTroll(m): 7:50pm On Oct 27, 2013
Secret_Dreams: If only you knew...smh
What do YOU know? Superstitious fools. Keep living in fear and ignorance while the whole world leaves you behind. . .

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