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everyday: Abortion is legalized in many countries

And GOD!!! has punished them severely, no?

Deep Sight: And I repeat: The above will equally serve as answer to EVERY THOUGHT, EVERY IDEA, EVERY OBSERVATION, EVERY DISCUSSION, EVERY DEBATE AND EVERY DISCOVERY THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND FOREVER INTO THE FUTURE.

If held fast and true, there should be no schools, no education, no discussions, no observations ever made by human beings. We should all remain quiet and mute: and simply do that which we wish to do to survive - or not - for everything is only a subjective reality in our individual minds.

No. I disagree. Objective truths need not come from our mind. Physical evidence and proof will suffice. THAT is why we need schools, to dispel our erroneous preconceived notions through the shining light of irrefutable evidence and solid proofs.

Deep Sight: Maybe you can read again his words -

He wrote -

"My point in all this is that mind does not have any absolute truths of it's own except that which it has been conditioned to see.
Indeed, If the mind was naturally or divinely imbued with absolute truth, then all minds should be able to have the same interpretations of one image, one dream, one epiphany.
We know that it has never been so.
Every mind interprets one visual image, such as yours above, in many different ways.
Thus, everyone has his own inner truth."

This eliminates any and every possibility of establishing an objective truth.

I will show you what this simply looks like. It looks like a teacher in a classroom who wishes to give a lecture on the nature of womanhood. The teacher brings into this class, a statue of a naked woman to discuss her parts. The teacher is interrupted by a student.

Teacher: Here is the image of a naked adult female.

Student: We cannot discuss this matter because we all see the image subjectively.

Teacher: Tell me what you see.

Student: It does not matter because what I see is subjective to me and may not be objective truth.

Class over.

hehehehe. Oga don't do an Anonyism here. The key word there is interpretation. The student cannot deny that what he is seeing is a naked woman but the response the teacher might want from him will be subjective based on. . .his preconceived notions.

I can look at the vagina or breast of a woman at work and not have an erection but i can look at the same woman at 9pm in my bedroom and have a massive erection and urge to Bleep. It is the same woman, same private parts but different body responses and action.

Deep Sight: The Pic will not show when you quote, so perhaps you should caption your comment such as "Picture of Bleep" - then comment on it.

ok. I'll edit them now. . .

NL funny sha, X'X'X is even censored. Hehehehehehe

Deep Sight: These two to be taken together - - ->

PICTURE OF THE ROCK AND THE BRAIN.

At the very fundamental level, they are both made of the same ingredients(atoms etc)

it seems quite incredulous that both may once have been the same thing in the distant past but whatever we may want to fantasize, there is simply no evidence to suggest that the rock may have evolved while the brain was designed(with what? Same materials i guess).

Nevertheless, the brain is a wonder, just as it a wonder that we share 70% of our DNA with a slug yet we are so vastly different. . .

Deep Sight: ?

PICTURE OF THE THINKING MAN

A thinking man. Evidently a more highly evolved specie from his ancestors. This evolutionary gift of a bigger brain has enabled him not only to manipulate his environment to suit himself but also furnish him with the ability of contemplating his ontological position in the context of the vast universe he finds himself in. . .blah blah blah.

Deep Sight: No: absolutely I am not - go and read Plaetton's post again - and you will see that that is the very direct implication of his position.

That is effectively his position, not mine.

Or maybe that is what you understood by what he said, because that is not what i got from reading his post. Maybe we will have to ask him to tell us the direct implication of what he meant?
see the point i'm making?


Nevertheless, i will comment on the OP subsequently. Make we play small. . .

Deep Sight: Interesting. But that is not quite just what I had in mind. Does it not occur to you what both the rock and the brain share in common?

Exactly my point. Now you're trying to suggest to us. . .

@deepsight, did you notice when Josh highlighted Plaetton's post where he talked about his evolutionary point of view? That is the sort of argument this thread will generate.

Nevertheless, you are building a strawman by asserting that because we think that this exercise is subjective, therefore no subject on earth can be discussed objectively. In fact, in any debate people come to the table with their own subjective notions of what is to be discussed and try to come to an objective understanding after all points have been heard.

I could comment on each of these pictures but i would do it coloured with my own particular world view. For example, the stone and brain. . . The only objective thing there is that it is a picture of a rock and a drawing of a brain. Whatever else we would say about it can only come from our subjective worldview. I hope you get my point now. . .

I blame GEJ for all this.

Nice sermon.

*drops tithe*

texanomaly: Who is this pastor Olu T?

A Pastor. This is how they do it, they come on an anonymous forum and attach 'pastor' to their moniker, knowing fully well that us foolish Nigerians will listen without thinking everything a self acclaimed pastor says. Their posts need not be intelligent, just add a title to it: Pastor, Imam, Dr., Prophet etc We are a mess

aManFromMars: I fear she might turn agnostic after coming to Nigeria..

lol. Those type of stories make me wanna reach into the screen and bit'ch slap some people. Serious child abuse is going on in this country and nobody is doing anything about it. This is like Europe in the middle ages. . .

texanomaly: I tell you what, I'll stop when you are no longer an archaic horse a.as "my dear".

I read what he wrote. Did you? Seriously? You got "Exorcist" from that? Lord have mercy on us all.

Welcome to Nigeria. . .

texanomaly: So you believe she is possessed?

For one who believes that demons send sms to people's phones? Pls come to Nigeria.

texanomaly: Why do you try to bait me in the first place Mr. Troll?

because i love you?

Logicboy03: Bros, calm down.....I can explain.

It was a well planned move like a properly executed checkmate

Since Ishilove wanted to troll on the non-xtian chatbox, all I had to do was expose her to her fellow christians on the christian chatbox. She's been fumbling over there. It was epic.

Reverse trolling.....you would have been proud

is it working so far? Any tangible progress?

Logicboy03: Why lord....why?

Why??

Shut up there! No be you don set up new base for their own chat thread?

texanomaly: Don't dangle a minnow, when you're after a shark.

Now you underestimate yourself. Why?

Ishilove: You silver tongued player, you

I have no idea what you're talking about

texanomaly: Because I agree with you on this point, does not put me squarely in your corner. I do believe he is not completely full of sh*t. I agree with some of his points. I reserve the right to be an island to myself still. You my visit if you wish.

hehehehehe. Touche. But i think he's completely full of shìt

Considering the fact that we CANNOT view these pictures objectively, i tend to agree with Plaetton. I know you are a Deist, Josh is a Christian and Plaetton is an atheist/pantheist. Whatever each and every one of us see will surely be interpreted based on our preconceived world view.


That being said, i find the picture of the rock and brain laughable. You, Deepsight have always been a proponent of Intelligent Design and that particular picture is simply a subtle way of passing your point across. Nice try though. . .but we don't do emotional responses.

I'll take a pass on this one

texanomaly: Don't cry Sweetz. Someone will come along.

You have refused to take the bait all these while. . . what are you afraid of?

texanomaly: Look above your post. If you want me to elaborate, I will consider it.

Yes yes. I was only trying to butress your point. I hope he doesn't think we are buying his nonsense.

Joshthefirst: yeah. You truly are one of the few exciting intelligent humans in this world.

THE SARCASM JUST FELL FLAT ON ITS FACE

texanomaly: Hehehe
You caught me Mr. Troll



And who you callin' boring

Most of the christians here in this forum. They lack proper thinking skills, they're a one way street of PLAY. . . STOP. . . REWIND. . .PLAY AGAIN. . .

Virtually none have the slightest inkling about what it takes to debate outside the bible. They can't think outside the box. . .

@Tex. . .

Mr Troll: "when non-christians fall sick, it is punishment from God but when christians fall sick, it is God testing their faith"-T B Joshua.

Yet we all wonder why we are all so stupid and backward in this country. This is the same nonsense Rapture Ready is trying to sell us and then he'll wonder why we bash them. Smh

Boring mindless zombies everywhere. . .

Btw i think Tex was asking about having knowledge of Jesoul's dryness?

Elantracey: sorry mr troll u cant understand it

yes yes you're right. Gibberish is not my forte.

italo: Prove that you're not stupid.

Teh Troll is being trolled! Hehehehehe

^^^

You believe it, because your bible says so. . . And then go on to threaten another person who doesn't believe in the bible's bullshyt with quotations from it. Stupidity in high places. . . You guys are just mindless robots. Zombies.

italo: Why should I prove anything to a self-professed mindless, purposeless, random particle?

I dont get it

But you want laws to be made based on your unproved claims. Lol, we are not stupid you know.

macof: Yes I heard that before. It seems Mohammed resurrected after his death as well.

Dohohohohohohoho! My religion is better than yours.

Er. . . Just to be clear. Mohammed's tomb is also empty He flew to heaven on the back of a winged beast. CHECKMATE CHRISTIANS! Hehehehehehehehe