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Here under is our pride. History was made last month and neatly recorded. South Africa today is among the superpowers who have managed to hit the target from 2Km away and have their names listed for record purposes.

Check:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

The pride of the lions- The power of Denel's technology.

agaugust: ...south africans fooling themselves about Congo DRC war

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South Africans are not fooling themselves about Congo. SANDF has been deploying to Congo ever since my high school days. They are merely making their mark and contributions. That's all.

Who's fooling who?

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Ghost south african army snipers in Congo DRC.....

.....fire Ghost DENEL sniper rifles....

....k.ill Ghost M23 Rebel commanders....

set new Ghost world sniper k.ill record.........

...posted by Ghost south african fraudsters on wikipedia......

.....how do we trust Seleka rebel claims of 800 k.illed by SANDF in CAR ?



http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-30-sandf-on-drc-deployment-no-repeat-of-car-massacre
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https://www.taranormal.com/store/images/GhostSoldiersPatchSticker_3-5x2-25.jpg

Have you now suddenly developed little confidence on SA media such that you even quote from it a lot lately. What strikes me the most is that the only way for those media reports to be accepted is when they report negatively about SA. It always turns out to be propaganda when anything positive come from it. Hence, you must decide whether you will stay away from SA media or remain.

Who's fooling who.

chris365: yeah, and you failed woefully until other SADC troops came to your rescue

South Africans botch military intervention in Lesotho

They achieved the exact opposite. Moving in against fierce resistance, with poor information from their intelligence apparatus, they failed to secure their objectives timeously, and stood by while the Basotho basically looted and burnt down their own capital. The major causes of this failure were due to a lack of intelligence as to the situation on the ground, and the fact that they were understrength militarily for an operation of this nature.

I suspect that most of the South African casualties occurred in the first few hours as the South Africans waltzed in like some sort of colonial expedition, expecting the natives to see our "maxim guns" and run away. Wars don't happen like that. Something the South African general staff only realised to its dismay when it was too late.

your military lacks the capability to lead.. simple
http://www.ecn.org/communitas/en/en121.html

FACT! The mission was a success. Coup detat was discouraged.

chris365: i now see why this thread got to this level.. they never thought Nigerian would be smarter to take them on in every level. now they are crying fowl for an offense they long committed. bunch of goofballs

History has been made and successfully recorded. You can argue hundred times and go to hell. I hope this will make you cry out of jealousy.

Here under history was made by our snypers:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

Hope you are already in tears.

NaijaPikinGidi: While you wait for a single drop of tear to form, you'll need to get out of the back rows and be brave enough to take on your M23 rebel nemesis! If 250 SANDF men could handle 3000 SELEKA men in CAR shouldn't M23 be an easy stroll through DRC? We've known your fraud all along! Now expose yourselves by yourselves! Get the unknown sniper to finish off the battle!

We don't care who is who, but our snypers made us very proud and have put our flag among the best snypers in the world. Hamba Mzansi Hamba!!!

NaijaPikinGidi: You fail to make any sense! Yes the SANDF are seen right after the Tanzanians on the frontlines! Tanzania leads, while the cowering SANDF tag along in fear! Such embarrassment to DENEL and the shiny weapons they produce! SMH.

Indeed you are one of the biggest primates "Gorrilla"

agaugust:
Why DID Nigeria fight the battle alone in Liberia and Sierra Leone ? I am just asking, I mean no harm bro


10,000 nigerian soldiers against over 70,000 rebels heavily armed by libya's Ghaddafi

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SA fought alone in Lesotho and your claims above are grossly misrepresented.

agaugust: The South African Special Forces Brigade fake 'longest range sniper kill' was successfully erroneously captured by wikipedia as seen above, due to misinformation from one south african military union staff seeking fake glory. correction of this fraud has been made by south african government's official military commanders below :


Lieutenant General Derrick Mgwebi of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) said at a media briefing in Pretoria on Friday denied allegations that South African snipers killed six senior rebel officers. "If there are snipers on the ground, they are not ours, only the UN can confirm who they are," said Mgwebi.

http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-30-sandf-on-drc-deployment-no-repeat-of-car-massacre

CASE CLOSED


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Agaugust, I wonder if you had ever studied communications or public relations. Spokepersons or so to say spin doctors whenever they give any information to the media they wouldn't give information about operations of another organisations which they are not contracted to because they might lose their jobs. Those special forces carried outr operations under the UN umbrela, hence it is UN spokesperson who has to respond anything that concerns the operations of the UN. I thought you were much wiser.

The South African Special Forces Brigade longest range sniper kill was successfully captured by wikipedia as seen below.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

agaugust: .
[size=16pt]South Africans turn desperate on nairaland.....looking for military glory....sources of Congo DRC war achivements activities now come form Tweeter and Facebook....as SANDF history of non-achievement remains the same [/size]

south africans now seek the help of a dozen civilians who sit in their homes with a laptop googling google to get 3rd hand information and soweto propagander in a FAILED attempt to improve south africa's every worsening combat history.

what a shame, even in a Congo DRC war civil rebellion, south african military cannot fight alone, they are getting daily b..reast f..eeding by the whole world through the UN and about 20 countries' armies and airforces


India's army officer in the Congo DRC battlefield strategizes with Congolese army and others in the UN multinational force.
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Why didn't Nigeria fight the battle alone in Mali? I am just asking, I mean no harm bro.

agaugust: .




all hail and crown south africa....as the global king of all lies and fraud

the whole world is united and fighting M23 rebels...south africa has only about 5% of the UN force in Congo DRC...they will get only 5% share of the glory when the battle is finally won.....any share more than that is daylight robbery....soweto style

https://thediplomat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2010/12/UN-Mission-440x292.jpg

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By the way why should we believe South African sources? I am just asking. You know well that their media is not credible and wonder why should it be quoted. Let us just dismiss it as propaganda like we usually do.

chris365: dead brain. Nigeria successfully LED AFISMA(the whole west african contributing troops) in the Mali conflict. no Nigerian ever claimed full glory for Mali. so am not gonna rule out french role because i want to convince some dead brains.

Nigeria has never been LED in any peace enforcement missions which SA is being commanded by a lesser military power..FACT for your dead brain.

now tell me who is leading SANDF in the FIB in DRC? no beating about the bush..

Dude, it shows me that you do not want to change and thus you do not want to conduct research before you write anything. Nigeria was led many a times by smaller countries in peace enforcement missions. It is very seldom that the UN will appoint contigent commander from either SA or Nigeria and I fail to figure out why.

Agaugust also sometimes ago complained about Nigeria being under the command of a Rwandan whose country doesn't even have a proper Airforce and you are now here telling us that Nigeria has never been commanded by smaller nations. Why can't you ask Agaugust, he will be willing to help you.

chris365: good to see you've toned the insults (i was tired of doing such)

1) Mali mission was not a UN mission but a west african mission Led by Nigeria. (AFISMA)

2) although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved in the offensive from day one(not UN supported)

3) we claim victory in Mali cos Nigeria without UN support fought and lead west africa(a whole region) in Mali. politically and militarily(AFISMA)

SANDF is only playing support role in DRC. cos every independent source calls it a UN mission Led. Not south african.

i also have my reasons to say it won't succeed.

Dude, why cant you make a concise research before you put any pen to paper. Don't act like your fellow monkey, Agaugust. Oops!! You failed again.

NaijaPikinGidi: Waste of space on this thread! What is your point?

S.tupid, I meant that even if NNS Thunder is fortified to carry more weight twice to that of helicopter, that does not mean that it was designed to carry Gunships because of its confined space. Unless if you are not well upstairs you can take that risk. Monkey!!

chris365: dude, you're as stup1d as my goat. so you posted that link to justify @augugust claims that your airforce flies scrap metals. what's the argument? can you even read at all? damn! you are truly brain dead

That was too complex for your 419 brain to consume. I hope you could have related to the context of this issue before you could judge. Monkey!!

agaugust: Correct !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_SAAF_Dakota_crash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_C-47_Skytrain

FAILED TWICE @msauza !!

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Acquired 1966 from America according to your own version, when it was infact from the Royal Airforce which SA Airforce worked under for many years

Admit your wrongs bru.

Who's fooling who?

agaugust: I got it all correct mister.

you go do your own research....i did mine very well. my sources are

1. south african air force website

2. SIPRI org arms transfer log

3. @andrewza's own posts and confessions on this thread in january/march.

go kiss a cockroach in soweto sir

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Wrong!!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/35_Squadron_SAAF

agaugust: [size=16pt]south african military received 5 units of year 1950 american second hand maritme patrol aircraft in 1966....still flying them today...crashes and kills 11 people last december...due to rusted metal parts [/size]

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28763&Itemid=107

anyone that has photos of NNS Thunder with the so called 'rusted metal' can post the rust for us to see.....fools NNS Thunder is a 1968 ship, SAS Protea survey ship of south african navy is a 1972 ship only 4 years difference, and one of south african navy tug boats is a 1969 vessel.

south african military maritime patrol Dakota aircraft is are second hand american donation aircraft built in the 1950's used by america tired and dry, then handed down second hand to south africa in 1966 when my father has not even see who my mother will be ! foolish south africans military still patrolling their own oceans with 1950 Dakota second hand rusted hand me down american gift aircraft...fools of soweto.


Dakota maritime patrol aircraft....south african airforce second hand flying and crashing rusty tin of sardine

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/Air_new/c47-useme.jpg

You got it all wrong mister, go and make your research.

agaugust: dont use your head to think, keep waiting until america sends you a personal letter to say the words 'navy and coast guard helicopters' means every navy and coast guard helicopter.

in american engineering standards, law and technical government regulations, everything that carries weight, bridge, ship, haulage truck, is built to carry 2 to 4 times its normal recommended payload in case of any abnormal situation that may arise.

ships flight decks they did not teach you in south african navy, are built strong enough to carry 2 to 3 times the weight of its helicopter because of emergency landing force impact....only a foolish south african will build a ship's flight deck to withstand only a force of 10,000 kg/f because its helicopter weight is 10,000 kg. a normal engineer will build that flight deck to withstand a load of force of 20,000 kg/f or much more in case of emergency hard landing due to engine stall, damage to helicopter in flight, etc.

toyota corrola is built for 4 passengers, if 8 passengers seat inside it crammed together, the vehicle will still move, and that is a mere passenger car, not a haulage or lift platform that can get emergency force and hard/shock landing.

try get a bottle of common sense syrup, but i dont know which pharmacy sells it, so sorry i cannot help you.

stop misinforming people on this thread, Eritrean navy has no anti-ship missile. fact !

as i said, apart from nigeria, only 6 or 7 african navies have missiles, and i said egypt, algeria, libya, morocco, south africa and maybe 2 others...equitorial guinean navy missiles is still a rumour. angolan navy, yes P-15 termit missiles.

apart from those 6 to 7 countries, no other navy in africa can threaten nigerian navy NNS Thunder in battle. fact !

anyone that has photos of NNS Thunder with the so called 'rusted metal' can post the rust for us to see...fools.

NNS Thunder is a 1968 ship, SAS Protea survey ship of south african navy is a 1972 ship only 4 years difference, and one of south african navy tug boats is a 1969 vessel, worst still, all the south african military maritime patrol Dakota aircraft are second hand american donation aircraft built in the 1950's used by america tired and dry, then handed down second hand to south africa in 1966 when my father has not even seen who my mother will be !

foolish south african military still patrolling their own oceans with 1950 Dakota second hand rusted hand me down american gift aircraft...fools of soweto.

no where in the world is a 76 mm gun of a warship relied upon as anti-aircraft defence today, and not all such guns have rate of fire like otobreda, most are far worse and weaker in capability and will never save a warship from aircraft attacks.

an average helicopter pilot will make swirl and loop maneuvers and escape the shells of a slow firing slow turning 76mm gun of a slow sailing slow turning warship. fact !

Swordfish naval aircraft with their slow speed of 224km/h slower than Hind helicopters, have been using air torpedoes and ordinary rockets to sink warships that have very heavy and multiple anti-aircraft defensive guns since 1940 second world war....fool

"In May 1941, a Swordfish strike from HMS Ark Royal was vital in damaging the German battleship Bismarck, preventing it from escaping to France. The low speed of the attacking aircraft may have acted in their favour, as the planes were too slow for the fire-control predictors of the German gunners, whose shells exploded so far in front of the aircraft that the threat of shrapnel damage was greatly diminished. At least some of the Swordfish flew so low that most of the Bismarck's flak weapons were unable to depress enough to hit them.[6] The Swordfish aircraft scored two hits; one did little damage, but the other jammed Bismarck's rudders with 15° port helm on,[7] making the warship unmanueverable; it sank after intense Royal Navy attack within 13 hours."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Swordfish

worldwide military standard modern day anti-aircraft guns are usually from 12.7mm to 35mm firing rapid 1,100 rounds per minute, not a slow 76mm gun firing only 85 rounds per minute, only a foolish south african navy chef/cook thinks differently....upside down

now show me any war history where a ships main gun 76mm was used to shoot down any aircraft, i dont know of one in all the war history books i read....now show me one to prove your claim...show me

Mi-35 Hind helicopter has very many types of ordinary explosive rockets not anti-tank....google is free for all, one of them is S-8 rocket....

The S-8 is generally carried in the B series of rocket pods, carrying either seven or 20 rockets.
Rocket specifications

Designation Type Length overall Launch weight Warhead weight Range Notes
S-8KO HEAT 1.57 m 11.3 kg 3.6 kg
(0.9 kg of explosive) 1.3 to 4 km 400 mm versus RHA
S-8KOM HEAT 1.57 m 11.3 kg 3.6 kg
(0.9 kg of explosive) 1.3 to 4 km 400 mm versus RHA. Velocity 610 m/s
S-8B Penetrating 1.5 m 15.2 kg 7.41 kg (0.6 kg of explosive) 1.2 to 2.2 km 800 mm versus reinforced concrete.
S-8BM Penetrating 1.54 m 15.2 kg 7.41 kg (0.6 kg of explosive) 1.2 to 2.2 km 800 mm versus reinforced concrete. Velocity 450 m/s.
S-8D FAE 1.66 m 11.6 kg 3.8 kg (2.15 kg of explosive) 1.3 to 3 km
S-8DM FAE 1.7 m 11.6 kg 3.8 kg (2.15 kg of explosive) 1.3 to 3 km 5.5–6 kg TNT equivalent. Velocity 590 m/s
S-8DF FAE 1.68 m 13.4 kg 5.5 kg (3.3 kg of explosive) 1.3 to 4.5 km 6 kg TNT equivalent. Velocity 500 m/s
S-8 O Illuminating 1.63 m 12.1 kg 4.3 kg 4 to 4.5 km 2 megacandela flare warhead
S-8 OM Illuminating 1.63 m 12.1 kg 4.3 kg 4 to 4.5 km 2 megacandela flare warhead burns for 30 seconds. Velocity 545 m/s.
S-8T Tandem-HEAT 1.7 m 13 kg 6.6 kg (1.6 kg of explosive) 1.3 to 4 km Tandem HEAT 400 mm versus RHA. Velocity 470 m/s
S-8P Chaff 1.63 m 12.3 kg 4.5 kg of chaff 2 to 3 km
S-8PM Chaff 1.63 m 12.3 kg 4.5 kg of chaff 2 to 3 km 545 m/s velocity.
S-8S Flechette 1.612 m 13 kg 4.3 kg 1.2 to 3.5 km 2,000 flechettes in 5 bundles
S-8TsM Target marking 1.605 m 11.1 kg 3.6 kg 1.3 to 2 km (heli)
1.3 to 3 km (plane) target/route marking smoke visible 6 km away


i am done with this your foolish combat drama....case closed. next topic please

photo of a naval helicopter launching rocket attack on a sea target.

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Yes, I fully agree with you that eight people can possibly squeeze themselves nicely inside that little toyota corolla. However, there's a one problem though, humans are flexible and can pack themselves so perfectly like sardines inside small spaces, but there are some things which are so rigid that you cannot force them to be nicely packed inside small spaces.

CraigB: Leave us alone, with your yesterday's news and your abandoned, decommissioned and yesteryear's coast cutter, which is about as old as the grandfather of Zeus.

Please, Mr Seleka. No one cares what your rust-bucket could do at commissioning. It is now tired and was killed by the US. You decided to bring it from the graveyard and took it to your shipyard.

This thing will cough itself to death. Go buy a vessel.

Please.

Bwahahahahaha!!!

Raised from the dead, reminds me how Jesus used to raise people from their graves.

Ghost NNS Thunder was brought back to life to scare us.

chris365: like you and your south africans have wished boko haram victory? bunch of hypocrites.

SANDF is just lucky to have Tanzania leading the mission cos i can imagine what would happen if SA does... big disaster like always..

miilitary with no achievements

what achievements does Nigeria have? Your military has zero achievements.

You bloody sadist and f'aggot.

chris365: good to see that you are the only one capable of replying that jargon you typed.. failed graduate

Msauza: Nigeria have lost a war on terror.

In order to satisfy the media frenzy, Nigeria have now devised a propaganda to fool the world that they are winning the war on terror by falsely claiming that Shekau, the leader of Boko Haram is dead. They have searched everywhere for Shekau in vain and all that they can come with are unfounded claims that the most feared leader might have died from the gun shot wound. This was done so to achieve their own delusional victory while continuous attacks are still ongoing.

Even though Nigeria has recruited hundreds of soldiers from neighbouring countries to their so called MNJTF, it has however failed to bear any fruit. Their mission in Mali was forced to be cut short because of ongoing insugents attacks and the consistent killing of the soldiers which most of the times is downplayed by the government to deny the insugents psychological victory.

There have been many reports which suggested Nigeria is downplaying the number of casualties in their war against terror and that they are finally losing the war. The solid proof to that is when America started deploying their drones and now lately they have even vowed to send number of troops to help fight terror on behalf of the losers.

Bwahahahahaha!!!

Msauza: Nigeria have lost a war on terror.

In order to satisfy the media frenzy, Nigeria have now devised a propaganda to fool the world that they are winning the war on terror by falsely claiming that Shekau, the leader of Boko Haram is dead. They have searched everywhere for Shekau in vain and all that they can come with are unfounded claims that the most feared leader might have died from the gun shot wound. This was done so to achieve their own delusional victory while continuous attacks are still ongoing.

Even though Nigeria has recruited hundreds of soldiers from neighbouring countries to their so called MNJTF, it has however failed to bear any fruit. Their mission in Mali was forced to be cut short because of ongoing insugents attacks and the consistent killing of the soldiers which most of the times is downplayed by the government to deny the insugents psychological victory.

There have been many reports which suggested Nigeria is downplaying the number of casualties in their war against terror and that they are finally losing the war. The solid proof to that is when America started deploying their drones and now lately they have even vowed to send number of troops to help fight terror on behalf of the losers.

Nigeria are losers. America must intervene before matters go out of hand

chris365: the gunship they claimed to have used to destroy M23 supply lines were actually flown by Ukraine. And these criminals want to claim credit for what they didn't do..SMH

What about South African special forces snypers? Do you want to tell me they didn't play any significant role?

Nigeria have lost a war on terror.

In order to satisfy the media frenzy, Nigeria have now devised a propaganda to fool the world that they are winning the war on terror by falsely claiming that Shekau, the leader of Boko Haram is dead. They have searched everywhere for Shekau in vain and all that they can come with are unfounded claims that the most feared leader might have died from the gun shot wound. This was done so to achieve their own delusional victory while continuous attacks are still ongoing.

Even though Nigeria has recruited hundreds of soldiers from neighbouring countries to their so called MNJTF, it has however failed to bear any fruit. Their mission in Mali was forced to be cut short because of ongoing insugents attacks and the consistent killing of the soldiers which most of the times is downplayed by the government to deny the insugents psychological victory.

There have been many reports which suggested Nigeria is downplaying the number of casualties in their war against terror and that they are finally losing the war. The solid proof to that is when America started deploying their drones and now lately they have even vowed to send number of troops to help fight terror on behalf of the losers.

NaijaPikinGidi: You surely fled ... like the word FLED! The CAR business remains quite unfinished!

[quote author=NaijaPikinGidi]Bwahahahahaha!!! You remind me of the most feared BOKO HARAM.

chris365: and who is leading the mission?

You fled your real mission in CAR to play support in a UN mission.

Now CAR is a mess thanks to SANDF. No achievements

SA never fled any mission in CAR, it was a political decision that SA must withdraw even though Zuma wanted to send more troops. The parliament argued that the mission was neither supported by AU nor UN.

NaijaPikinGidi: Empty claims! I will not be surprised if Tanzanian forces begin to counter the stories that you are attributing to SANDF alone! Are you really claiming to have better knowledge of the terrain than the Tanzanians? So far, we have info that the Tanzanians are the lead force in the frontline action so far, meaning they have led the reconnaisance operations, and are embedded with the DRC army on the frontlines. Don't come painting glorious pictures of your weak SANDF, whereas we know those doing the very dirty job at the moment. Which army operates the MI-24s for the UN mission? You'll need to exercise caution in all you say or claim on behalf of your SANDF. Better still ... provide proof for each comment or claims your make ...

Right now, I can only say good luck to the UN member troops in DRC.

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SANDF is heading the mission as tasked by the UN. I have just seen six Rooivalks gunships an hour ago heading towards Limpopo and am not sure if they are already on their way to the DRC or not.

2smooth2shout: if your dead brain cannot reason how Nigerian special forces appeared to have been in Mali the very day france attacked unanounced, then i shall leave you to your ignoramus.

Look at that link again, it was a senior malian army officer that made the statement. Although i know maths and critical reasoning is a problem for the south african brain, so be as you are...... A failed graduate.

In that case leave me with my ignorance because you do not make any sense. France deployed before Nigeria could even though Mali are just your in your neibourhood. Truth hurts!!! FACT.

MORE WAR SHIPS ARE NEEDED.

Well done Willie Seriti- The Admiral before the Arms deal commission

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/Politics/Navy-short-of-ships-20130822

agaugust: sorry, we dont trust any south african source that will say things like...we lost 15 men in CAR while Seleka rebls lost...800 !!!!

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You are such a controversial character indeed. You must have youself checked for mental condition because you once told us you have nothing to do with SA sources but to my surprise you keep on and on citing South African Sources in most of your comments. You are crazy indeed!!

Media is media and I don't think it can allow itself to be used as tool of propaganda by their enermy which is the government. If you were living in SA you would have come to the understanding that the media remains the biggest enemy of the government.