₦airaland Forum

all4naija: Bwahaha... Economy developed by the minority white people your government is trying to look down on. How you know about what it takes to developed your country to that state is still something I don't understand in your statement, as you refuse to divulge it right away. Nevertheless, we are beating our chests for good also telling you the fact of what we are capable of. You have to accept it with equanimity or leave it with South Africa's Township life. It is no good going with the latter.

For your own good, it is time to accept the truth and uplift Nigeria in your society as the African GIANT. We will continue to help you when you need our assistance. Gradually we are becoming the America of Africa with swag. That is very nice to see coming from Nigeria.

The people of Nigeria is not going to fold their hands either. The competition is just beginning and only the strongest all rather GIANT survives. That is Nigeria for all Africans.

Go Nigeria, the true GIANT of Africa.

It would take Nigeria 1000 years to completely surpass SA at every account of development. Sa is still more developed than Nigeria and there is still nothing American I see in Nigeria other than farms. China might have bigger GDP than UK, but you cannot match two countries in terms of developments. Nigeria lags SA way behind in terms of infrastructure. You don't have electricity, you are still using pit as your toilet, no clean running water, no tarred roads, no refuse removal, nothing. You are still living in the bush.

all4naija: I am not hating. I am stating things the way they are.

Yes, Nigeria has the largest GDP in Africa. It helps us to understand that South Africa has never been the GIANT of Africa, not with false account presented in the past to be Africa's largest economy. That will give the international communities and investors the scope of our economy and the reason to invest there. China is leading the way. One day we will advance and take over everything from your overrated country.

Thank you.

Young boy you are indeed one stu.pid fellow. Before Nigeria takes everything from SA you would be dead to witness all that.

NaijaPikinGidi: Brainless kid! Arrant ignorance.

Your SANDF jobs on the line!

You see why I am living in shame to have the blood of Nigerian in my veins. They can't reason at all. SANDF would never retrench their soldiers, that would never happen. I watched the parliament and the chiefs promised they are infact looking at possibilities of swelling the ranks of the army. Rather, they would engage other measures of extending the duration of deployments as an escape route to curb all the expenses and save more money until they get the neccessary budget.

agaugust: [size=14pt]

I proved that the South African recces are not just special forces men, other recces were counted under that name, both regular infantry recces and special forces recces all are nicknamed South African recces in the old SADF era. I posted photo and weblink for that proof.

How many special forces did South Africa deploy in Congo DRC ? The whole SANDF contingent was about 1,800 men. One sniper man special forces, has he become your full size brigade? One man army ?

Do you know what a war is ? 18 hour Battle in C.A.R with Seleka is NOT a war, NOT and enduring war that tests the long endurance any skills of battle tested special forces.

No SF casualties in Bangui means only Parabats were fighting, likely you has no proven presence of South African special forces in Bangui, when we said they were there, you all denied it because of shame of the lost battle, now you say had special forces there.

Well if so, they become part of the Paratroops disgrace.....

South African special forces raised white flag and surrendered to Seleka rebels in C.A.R. [/size]

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[size=16pt]SA Recces refered to SA special forces brigade. Every special force member/operator is a recce even though some components/units in SANDF had their own small recce wing. You have a little knowledge regarding SA Special forces.

IN CAR, the Seleka rebels raised the white flag and not South Africans after suffering a major casualty of between 800-2000 from MGL, something they completely know nothing about.[/size]

NaijaPikinGidi: You must be silly. The USA has the best Special Forces yet could not rescue the lone prisoner of war held by the Talibans in Afghanistan. It took a prisoner swap to secure the release alive of that soldier! No matter your skill and experience as special force you can not secure the evacuation of 200 hostages without total collateral damage in the porous Sambisa Forest Reserve!

Your ignorance on such basics, is a reflection of the poor tactical rating of your SANDF. I wonder why after all the begging from your military fat stomachs, no one has resigned! Obviously, being in SANDF is the easiest job to get paid for without dropping a sweat!

[size=16pt] Shut up!! Shup up!! Shut up!!
Just #BringBackOurGirls your b.loody fool. Your special forces are amateurs finish and klaar. You Nigerian are fools of the century, even apes and chimpazees behave rather better than you. I regret of ever having Nigerian blood in my veins, if need be I would wash that gene away from my blood. Nigeria is a disgrace in Africa. Damn!!! [/size]

agaugust: ngerian army special forces sneaked on boko haram leader shekau's secret hidden forest/jungle base on top of a mountain and we killed him, he did not know nigerian army had crept into his stronghold.

you are foolish enough to ask what experience nigerian special forces have, your south african special forces never found seleka leaders base or even smell it from a distance.

south african army's old SADF 1980s angola bush war special forces are almost all old and retired by now and gone with all their experience.

today's current south african special forces have no combat record and NO combat experience. who did they fight in war ? who ?

nigerian army's current special forces have been fighting combat and recce against boko haram for 4 years now and have sneaked unseen and undiscovered to spy and fight and snipe in jungles and mountains after their other war experience against niger d.elta militants for about 10 years in year 2000 to 2010 inside thick mangrove swamps and jungles every day fighting about 30,000 m.ilitants.

nigeria has the most experienced special forces in Africa, south africa's current special forces have almost ZERO combat experience, they just pose for @THIZA's photographs and get paid monthly salary for sleeping with their wives at home in soweto.

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Special force that has got only 7 years of age. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaahhaha!!!

agaugust: let him show us correct sign language now that he is off stage and we will see if he was sick or not

fake man fake excuses


south african security systems were fooled 100% by a fake man, you have to live with this fact or commit suicide if you dont like it

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This man has already done excellently well during two major events of the ANC.

The problem on his part is that he never declared his bipolar status. Perhaps, fearing he would be discriminated against.

Security does not hire sign interpreters, the event management does.

List of famous people with known bipolar disorder.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_bipolar_disorder

chris365: weak rubbish. even you Don't sound sane right now.

You should have listened to yourself before uttering such a gibberish. It is not the first time he interpreted on public dormain. The man has a proven condition of bipolar disorder.

http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/mandela-mimer-hits-back-i-m-sign-language-champion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

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That man suffers from a bipolar which was diagnosed some while ago. This condition is very popular to academics. However, he was found to be a qualified sign language interpreter, since it was not the first time he was used to gestulate.

http://news.ng.msn.com/africa-news/mandela-fake-interpreter-blames-schizophrenia-1

http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/mandela-mimer-hits-back-i-m-sign-language-champion

agaugust: .






[size=16pt]Submarines Vs Warships....who is stronger ?[/size]




first, i remind you that NNS ARADU's Otomat missile itself is partially stealth anti-ship missile.

a stealth warship is NOT invisible to radar, it only looks smaller like half its real size. dont carry your imaginations beyond reality man !


next point....you think submarines are a magical weapon platform ? against civilian ships yes. against naval warships no !

in world war II germany lost about 800 of its 1,200 submarines in combat and 300 of those submarines were sunk by warships.

germany's 1,200 submarines sank about 2,700 civilian merchant ships but only 180 naval warships in battles at sea.


http://www.navyhistory.org.au/british-and-german-submarine-statistics-of-world-war-ii/

if submarines are the magical weapons you south africans think they are, all big navies of the world will sell off their warships and buy only submarines. you dont know the technical limitations of submarines in naval warfare.

you think they are spirits that cannot be sunk while they have fun sinking ships, reason why i posted that link for you above.

out of 1,200 german submarines, ships sank 300 of those submarines in world war II, while the submarines sank only 180 of the warships.

who won the battle between ships and submarines ? the ships of course, statistics prove it in real war.

on the average for sea battles, when submarines sink one ship, the other ships sink two submarines also.

in year 2004 American Navy upgraded its anti-submarine capability against even the very modern Gotland class submarine which they wisely bought and experimented with to know how to defeat the Swedish submarine.

no real war has ever been fought in history between a warship with modern sonar and modern submarine. War games are only exercises for training, no live weapons are fired on each other, training is NOT war of fight to finish, kill and be killed.


The weakness of hidden submarines is that once they fire torpedoes, their hidden position is detected and the ship fires anti-submarine torpedoes too.

warships like NNS ARADU at almost 70km/hr moves 10 times faster than submerged submarines of only 7km/hr.

also, NNS ARADU at 70km/hr moves faster than torpedoes of 55km/hr coming from submarines.

enemy submarine moving at 7km/hr is 6 times slower than torpedoes of speed 45km/hr fired by NNS ARADU's.

i just showed you the technical reason why warships sink more submarines in real battle, not your games played between friendly navies that no weapons at all.

In real war, both the warship and submarine have a nearly close balance of power, but war history gives the victory of greater kills in favour of warships.

Worst for the submarine are the Lynx antisubmarine helicopters of Nigerian navy carried on board our NNS ARADU, once a submarine fires torpedoes the location is revealed as well as it's bearings /cardinal point direction at it moves at 7km/hr slow snail speed it will be hunted and sunk because the submarine will be about only 20km away from the ship due to short range of torpedoes.

a nigerian Lynx anti-submarine helicopter armed with its new upgraded year 2014 detector sonar and torpedoes flying safely at speed 300km/hr pursuing a south african submarine just 20km away while the slow submarine is trying to run away at snail slow speed of 7km/hr, it takes on 3 minutes for the helicopter to be exactly over the head of the submarine ! soweto's submarine is going to its sea bed grave for burial that day !

also, submarines hidden and submerged cannot stay more than about 24 hours under water without rushing back to the surface to save diesel fuel from finishing, only nuclear fuelled submarines can stay underwater hidden for weeks and no country in Africa has it.

You think a submarine is a mammy water spirit that cannot be destroyed ? No sir, you got it all wrong !

NNS ARADU, supported by our two new stealth Type 056 warships will lead a nigerian sea invasion of south africa and there will be terror and fear in your country when we arrive your waters !

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Any war ship would be stupid to exchange arms with the sub.

agaugust: south africa did NOT return the faulty submarines because your corrupt politicians and cash greedy navy admirals had been paid bribes to shut up and accept them faulty like that, fact

"He said submarine manufacturer Ferrostaal was under fire for corrupt dealings with Greece and Portugal, whose own arms deals contributed to the current European fiscal crisis: "This [South Africa's submarine deal] is a déjà-vu situation with Portugal and Greece.

This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid"


http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational


swallow the bitter pills of truth....fool

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Is not operational does not equate to faulty. Read that article over again and you will understand.

agaugust: fact remains that in August 12th 2012 all 3 south african submarines purchased with bank loans $800 million all broke down, crashed to the sea bottom, crashed to the sea port concrete, had battery failure. soweto ripped of by the whites again.

you borrowed more money to repair your sub-standard submarines as soon as they were purchased, more debt, more interest, growing gbese of baba alajo

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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Arms deal was never acquired from loan but from taxes. Dont you even feel ashamed that the link you have pasted is outdated. SA has three fully operational submarines, end of story. Amen!!

agaugust: The fact remains you have been stripped of $800m borrowed money for sub-standard submarines.

South African Submarines are fully operational, your information is outdated.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Queen Modjadji nose dived and was repared and maintained and all three subs are now fully operational.

http://www.jbaynews.com/sas-queen-modjaji-takes-a-nosedive/

agaugust: fact remains that nigeria has 12 drones/UAV flying and working.

any equipment can develop electrical faults and be repaired. nigerian drones having fault is nothing new.

now if you live in a glass house, dont throw stones my boy.....



[size=16pt]all south africa's 3 units $800 million submarines went out of operation...technical faults

all 3 submarines were purchased on credit, so debt still hanging, not yet paid.

bribery and corruption involved in the submarine purchase

quality of submarines is sub-standard[/size]



News Bobby Jordan | 12 August, 2012.

"Not one of the R8 billion arms deal submarines is operational as at the time of writing this report.

South Africa's fleet of attack submarines, which cost an estimated R8-billion in the infamous arms deal, are all in dry dock after the only operational vessel crashed into the seabed.

President Jacob Zuma established a commission of inquiry into the arms deal in September last year to probe allegations of fraud, corruption and impropriety.

Arms deal activist Terry Crawford-Browne said the incident was further proof of the folly of the arms deal. "South Africa has not yet paid for these submarines. They are being financed by Commerzbank until 2016, these loans being underwritten by Hermes and German taxpayers," he said.


"This is another example of what happens in arms deals all the time, but it seems to be happening more than most in our deals. We were sold equipment that seems to be of dubious quality, we were sold it at inflated prices because of the bribes that were paid, and the performance of this equipment across the board has been, to put it politely, very poor," said Feinstein. "

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

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The fact remains you have been stripped of cash for scraps.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-to-return-israeli-made-drones-citing-technical-problems/

Two French soldiers killed overnight in CAR.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25313817

agaugust: .


[size=16pt]man with the true Seleka vs SANDF story....[/size]

RFI reporter Cyril Bensimon goes into battlefields and get true stories, sometimes wounded there, like in this Guinea crisis
https://s1.djyimg.com/i6/701230137431462.jpg


"But in Bangui, Cyril Bensimon, the RFI journalist who originally reported the claims of more SANDF deaths, stuck to his story on Friday, saying that other sources had since contacted him to confirm it.

An officer of the Central African peacekeeping force, FOMAC, which had also been stationed in the CAR, had told him that FOMAC troops had brought about 40 bodies of SANDF troops back from the battlefield to the SANDF base.

A regional diplomat had also congratulated Bensimon on his article, telling him: “You have written what we could not say.”

And he said that the Seleka chief of staff, General Hakouma Arda, who led the forces which clashed with the SANDF, and who had told him he had personally seen the bodies of 36 SANDF soldiers on the battlefield, was a reliable source.

Bensimon acknowledged that it was difficult to explain how the SANDF could have concealed the deaths of so many extra soldiers from their families and the South African public.

He noted that in the past the French military had not been legally obliged to publicly reveal the deaths of members of secret operations units and suggested this same policy might still apply in South Africa."

A regional diplomat had also congratulated Bensimon on his article, telling him: “You have written what we could not say.”


SOURCE

http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/seleka-rebels-dispute-death-toll-of-soldiers-1.1496538#.UprltsRDsbg

[img]http://www.lanouvellecentrafrique.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cyril.jpg[/img]


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Seleka suffered over 500 casualties.

http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/e/1.1493841

drag_on: did you read the whole thing?
But the authorities of the Nigerian Army denied the report that it lost 40 soldiers with 65 others missing in a Boko Haram onslaught.
The Army spokesman said the invading troops of the Nigerian Army killed 150 of the insurgents and lost 15 men in the encounter, adding that nine other soldiers were still missing.

According to him, a wanted Boko Haram commander, Abba Goroma, was among those killed in the battle at the Kasiya Forest.
“The insurgents were completely routed and the camp cleared. Over 150 insurgents died.

“The insurgent camp was well fortified with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons mounted on vehicles.

“One Abba Goroma, one top insurgent commander was killed, he was a high valued target, he had a bounty of N10m on his head.”

Your men fought for 13hrs,no air support and they were finally routed.Had it been an ambush of an 1hr or 2hrs and they escaped with 13deaths i wont say anything because air-support cant come in time.

It is well known across the whole world that Nigeria like to dowmplay number of casualties. Besides, the question is why didn't they get any Air support?

agaugust: records show that in the last 25 years, SADF or SANDF has only 9 hours of combat in their history for a quarter of a century, and they even lost that battle in Bangui city, C.A.R nation...Seleka episode

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8 hours yet your fellow countryman noted that the battle between SANDF and Seleka took about 13 hours. How is this story corelating? SANDF were deployed in Lesotho where they fought for more than 8hours x 420 fighting viciously against mutinous Lesotho soldiers who wanted to topple up the kingdom.

Seleka rebels are just a drop in an ocean compared to the kind of weapons we use. We are a force not rebels. 200 SANDF poorly armed soldiers fought 3000 Seleka rebels tirelessly to an extend of calling for cease fire. It was not us who called for it. Our men were ready to fight until they were all killed. We cannot declare war against feeble Seleka, since the world will see that as imperialists agenda.

rka1:

The current SANDF has no war history. The pilots of the by-gone SADF have long since left and you no longer have combat experienced pilots, unlike the NAF who have been engaged from SL to Liberia, via Mali and now against BH. Eat your heart out

There is only one defence force of SA, the only thing that we did we just only added the word "national" and transform it in relation to the races of SA at large.

agaugust: wow @Msauza, i will like to welcome you to the forum with this nice post that you missed in your absence my dearly beloved brother....



[size=16pt]South African Brains Rated Second Dullest In The World [/size]

...by The World Economic Forum (WEF) confirmed this once again in its Global Information Technology Report 2013 :


http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global%5B_id%5D=98913

the south african brains are so dull that the pass mark in secondary school and university is 33%

hungry zimbabweans do 3 times better in school than south african. under-rated nigeria stands tall as the most intelligent africans on earth

http://allafrica.com/stories/201304161594.html

if nigerian education is bad, south african brains are even worse, so much that nigeria's s..h..i..t looks like food to them, that they are begging nigeria to send those 'bad' brains to help save the worse brains of south african people.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200911090934.html


no wonder south african military has never won any war in their history because their brain dull welu welu

https://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/medical-no_brainer-brain-brain_surgeon-brain_surgery-surgeons-jlo0150l.jpg


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Of course, yes, Government schools, not private schools.

Correction, SA university pass mark is 50%.

rka1:

The current SANDF has no war history. The pilots of the by-gone SADF have long since left and you no longer have combat experienced pilots, unlike the NAF who have been engaged from SL to Liberia, via Mali and now against BH. Eat your heart out

Lies, find out the truth.

rka1: That is a story back in September that has been discredited. You even failed to read further down the article. You obviously haven't been following this thread otherwise you will be aware that our air force has been pummelling BH for the last 4 weeks.

Lies

drag_on: Your men fought for 13hrs, what were your pilots and generals doing? Sleeping?

where in the world will 200 men face 3000 (as is claimed) while their Generals sleep and their pilots play with cards?

Tell me what went wrong here on the link attached below, where your Airforce failed dismally to provide aerial support when your soldiers were caught on an ambush.

http://www.punchng.com/news/40-soldiers-feared-killed-in-bharam-ambush/

The South African Air Force reserves consist of many young pilots who can be utilised during the times of war.

http://www.af.mil.za/reserves/reserves.htm

drag_on: If you are so brave/experienced why did you sit on your arses while your ground troops got butchered in C.A.R? Are your brave pilots afraid of AAA?
They fought for 13hrs, you had more than enough time to stop the base from being overrun by dropping one unbami.

You fly your jets we fight with ours.

Firstly, SA Army deployed without Airforce because their main objective was to train CAR Army and not to engage them in war. However, the rebels seen them as mercenaries and started attacking about only 200 SA soldiers who were poorly armed. The decision was, however, made by the parliament of SA that their troops should be withdrawn from CAR, but, instead, the Airforce should be on stand-by to witness their safe exit in CAR.

Should the rebels have tried anything to attack SA troops again, they should have faced the hell fire, they never experienced before.

The SA Air Force is more experienced than its Nigerian counterpart. It was founded in 1920 and has seen more honours as compared to Nigerias, which was only founded in 1964.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Air_Force

Versus:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force

drag_on: Nigeria’s military on Friday attacked Boko Haram Islamist strongholds across the northeast, launching deadly air strikes on insurgent camps,
“There have been air strikes since Wednesday,” defence spokesman Brigadier General Chris Olukolade told AFP, specifying that they were continuing Friday.
“Every one of their strongholds is under attack,”he said, adding that he believed “there are a lot of casualties,” without providing a figure

tell me is the "insurgent camps" and "strongholds" civilian areas ? Baga was a battle between ground forces and Boko haram, and HRW never sent anybody on the Ground to validate their pics,our satelites picked it up and we proved the area is small.

http://beegeagle./2013/05/17/nigerias-satellites-capture-baga-events-evidence-and-review-strongly-suggests-arbitrary-analysis-and-extrapolation-by-human-rights-watch-2/

If you want to know more about Baga go back a few pages.
Just face it,your Airforce is behind ours in term of Experience and combat effectiveness.QED.
You fly your Jets we fight with ours.

The governor confirmed it.

http://www.elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/15560-baga-massacre-more-than-180-dead-after-jtf-and-boko-haram-clash-in-village

drag_on: you do understand that the statement "There is a lot of casualties" alludes to boko haram ?
The other is a warning of civilian death. No where does it suggest civilian casualties from an air-strike.

lol,that picture has been debunked on this very thread.

Nope!!!That is a general statement, refering to all the people. In actual fact, He could have said there are lot of people who died. Read it towards the end where it becomes more clearer pertaining to civilian attack.

What you see on the satellite view is not BH residence, but Baga where homes of the victims were destroyed.

drag_on: Read your own link and tell me where it reports civilian casualties from air-strikes.

[b][/b]“There have been air strikes since Wednesday,” defence spokesman Brigadier General Chris Olukolade told AFP, specifying that they were continuing Friday.
“Every one of their strongholds is under attack,” he said, adding that he believed “there are a lot of casualties,” without providing a figure.
The offensive is ongoing in all three states put under emergency decree, including Adamawa and Yobe, but Borno state is expected to see the most intense fighting.
Many have warned that there is a risk of high civilian deaths and Nigeria’s military has been accused of massive rights violations in the past, including indiscriminate attacks on civilians.
The operation is the largest against Boko Haram.

drag_on: you definitely dont know the history of our Air-force.Do you know how long we have been using these jets?DO you know how many sorties.Freshen yourself up and come back.

Then can you explain this blunder attached underneath:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/casualties-as-military-launch-air-strikes-on-boko-haram/

drag_on: F7 are interceptors and we use alpha jets on the boko boys

Come on you used them only once with undesirable results. They killed citizens instead of BH.