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agaugust: .

upcoming post for next month...nigerian army invasion of south africa...a simulation of real war

(subject to the approval of all nigerians on this nairaland thread/topic)
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Nigeria can never attempt such a stupid move. They have failed to attempt it during apartheid when SA had a force of just below 30 000 men and limited fire, so now tell me how will they ever attempt it when new SA is well armed than ever? We may lose thousands of miles away from our territory, but surely not in the place we call home, where our arsenal, Air defence, heavy artillery and heavy fire are based. We are surely going to kill the hell out of you until there is no army anymore in Nigeria. Nigeria is only good as defensive but not as an aggressor, besides they do not have any of such experience.

chris365: we know all these things and i'm sure you keep them to self-service yorself.

now answer my question.. which leader is still loyal to his tradition if you are not the pretenders?

That was too stupid because Jonathan is also seen many a times wearing western suit. There are also many images where Zuma can clearly be seen wearing his traditional Zulu dress.

Mike..ZA:
Did you know the South African Police service(SAPS)'s special task force. Are also trained to take part in covert military operations?. Now please wonder why I'm saying this!!!

Didn't Agaugust know that? Bwahahahahaha!! That mumu is ignorant.

Nigerian Military was unfit for Mali, no wonder they have used France as a cover:

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/106020-nigerian-army-lacks-basic-training-and-discipline.html

Mike..ZA:
Nigerians folded their arms while northern Mali towns were falling to the hands of the jihadists. Only to be stopped by the french foreign legion and pushed back further into the north. Chad was the only west African state brave enough to send 2000 men to support the mission. While Nigeria the country with the biggest armed forces in west Africa,only sent handful of men. You guys complained about logics,you even went as far as making ridiculous statements like "you couldn't drive your 'armour' cross chad to Mali". Yet you claim to be the best in Africa?,like I told you before "Nigeria has no experience in cross country warfare". South Africans drove their Ratels or G6 artillery systems cross Namibia to Angola,since they(G6) can't be carried by the C-130 plane.

Latecomers would always want to reap the seed they never planted.

drag_on: The U.S.A were the last responders to ww2,yet history considers them to be the victors.It is not when you join the war,but if you did.

Is peace keeping mission a war? The truth is France played major role than Nigeria in Mali. Honour must be granted to the French by their bravery of responding in time.

drag_on: @craigb
Why do you think AFISMA(peace enforcement) was converted to MINUSMA(peace keeping)
The battle is over,elections are to hold.We are victorious.

Victorious as in what? Or should we give that title to the French because they were the first to respond to the call.

chris365: as usual. yourr useless schools could not impact the sense of analytical reasoning to your head. shame.

so after the copy and paste, the only thing that can come out of your brain is "enjoy". what a mess

Useless schools yet highly rated than your perfect schools. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Mumu

Donian007: Don't even think about it, you have not shown any objectivity, credibility or maturity here and so you don't qualify. Infact I'm going to alert Gen. Beeg. NONSENSE!

Bwahahahahaha!! I have only wanted to pull your legs.

chris365: am not just saying, it's a fact the world knows. you kill foreigners out of envy cos your people are lazy and foreigners are the ones growing your economy.

what mandela stands for unifies snot africa. which is different from your other so called unknown dead and rotten icons.
Mandel's death will open a new chapter the world will know snot africa for. "racially divided" and i'll pray for you then.

Look at this gate man or probably royal guard. Foreigners building our economy when they actually came to reap from it. This mumu is demented, bwahahahahaha!!!

patriot4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1xkKfjzpw

We are tired of those fake computerised pictures from attention seeking racists. Many of those videos were discussed in SA that they infact never real and that pictures of white people generally injured across the world are staged as if they actually happened in SA. Many of those pictures were linked to be from Russia in chechnya and neighbouring countries.

chris365: for a country that doesn't just hate but kills african migrants just cause they are intelligent than you, taking your jobs, and making a living while your lazy a*s complain all day.

A country that is racially divided that your ANC leaders still sing the "kill the boer songs," you lack the moral justification to judge Nigeria.

I know what is still keeping that country is sick Mandela and when he dies... I'll remember to pray for south africa

This is really crazy! How can South Africans envy foreigners who are getting paid R20 a day and still accuse them of taking their jobs? What you do not understand is that these foreigners are being exploited for cheap labour in jobs that could have paid fairly well for South Africans who are protected by labour laws. Most of these foreigners are illiterate and some never even gone to school at all.

Meanwhile, even after the death of Nelson Mandela will still progress as a rainbow nation and we have many icons who have passed before him in Chris Hani, Joe Slovo, Oliver Tambo, Walter Sisulu and many more.

NaijaPikinGidi: Just like South Africans hating and looking down on other countries, and bickering amongst yourselves, and misrepresenting everything South African. Almost every issue turns into black vs white vs zulu, no wonder South Africa is in such a deceptive mess!

Small brain capacity. You are meant for the small issues!

Lol!! Zulus are black, hence I do not understand this madness in black vs white vs Zulu. Shame! Tiny Nigerian brains.

patriot4: Why are you so obsessed with Nigeria ?
Why don't you go to defenceweb ?
Beegeagle's blog is not for Nigerian-hating, it is for people who correct the biase attitude towards Nigeria in the press and for those who really know Nigeria and offer advices and encouragement for the F.R.N. It is not for people who feel threatened to see Nigeria progress.

Bwahahahahaha!!! I was only pulling your leg chief. Feel free to chat on that platform atleast South Africans will not give you headaches.

patriot4: Nigerians up here, I urge you to promote Beageagle's blog as much as possible.
And I urge you to comment on the blog.
I am tired of this thread, because it allows anybody in.
South Africans have infested it which is paradoxal because they hate Nigeria and Nigerians.
Yet they must infest Nairaland, and while in it they must insult us, spam us and all.
If nairaland doesn't take care of it then I suggest we promote beegeagle's blog in every comment we make.

Am I also allowed to join Beegeagle's blog?

chris365: keep lying to yourself... losers.

did you enjoy the article i posted? hope it didn't give you goose bumps?

this is the part i enjoyed reading most:

Nigeria has been in the vanguard of African support for the liberation of southern Africa and defense of the frontline states. It was one of the most consistent and generous providers of political, financial, and material assistance to the Namibian liberation movement, the South West Africa People's Organization (SWAPO), including substantial support to help organize pre- independence elections. Nigeria donated several million dollars' worth of military and financial aid to the African National Congress in its struggle against South Africa's apartheid regime. Nigeria also sent military equipment to Mozambique, which was attempting to suppress South African-backed Resistência Nacional Moçambicana (Renamo) guerrillas.

and the article was written before Liberia, SL, ivory coast and Bissau crisis.
now provide one for south africa's records

Shame!!! Your efforts could not work for you. CUBA came thousands of miles to assume your position that you could have played by collaborating with Angolan and guerrillas to stop the wrath of apartheid forces from colonising the region, while your strong men with big muscles where sitting on their budds. Black people were suffering oppression bitterly at the hands of Whites in SA under your noses, but here you are boasting about your invention which was never even physical. You chickened out when ANC asked you to send troops to Mozambique to provide defence to their headquarters but instead ANC shifted further to Lusaka because of consistent attacks from apartheid forces who invaded Mozambique like a playground. You have just only embarrassed yourselves because even your military chiefs were scared of SA to their throats and all that they could do was to provide cheap material support.

chris365: here's your answer http://www.mongabay.com/history/nigeria/nigeria-african_and_regional_issues.html




we know your ships have sailed round africa but where have your military been tested and left as winners? CAR was your test and you failed woefully.

Our mission in CAR was to establish professional military and had nothing to do with war. With only just a steak of our troops we have managed to kill hundreds of them and suffered only 13 casualties. No army in the world can achieve that without a heavy fire because French troops who were in charge of the Airport never allowed us to deploy heavy fire since 2007 because our mission was to train CAR troops.

chris365: ok i now understand. you need to lose from 200 men before you can retaliate in any conflict. sissies

I understand that it is very difficult to explain any sense to a tiny Nigerian brain. The Griffins were never there during the first attack.

chris365: did FOMAC beg you to come and join the fight? NO

you went to CAR to copy Nigeria in projecting power and your weakness was revealed. since you are wanted to be project military power, you had no reason to chicken out. now you want to blame FOMAC. joker

now tell me how you intend to project power if you keep running away from battle? losers feeling funky

I will bury your ugly face in your stinking pepper soup just now. Since when did Nigeria ever project itself as a military power in Africa? Nigerian troops have never even come close to down their sinking assssess on SADC to project their military power. SA has been all over Africa without any fear.

chris365: oh you retreated before the war even started. ok

so the first attack where you lost more than 30 men was not enough to provoke your griffins and rooivalk. ok

now just give me one good reason why SANDF is not a modelling agency?

you only stationed to jets AS THE NORMAL MODELLING STRATEGY to let the world know you have them. but did't have the guts to engage a rebel group that don't even have one helicopter.. what a big joke you are

Yet again you are showing your midget brains. The Griffins and Rooivalk were deployed to give Air support to the South African troops who were just attacked by seleka. They were stationed in Zambia for any attack that could happen again.

chris365: hahahahahahaha.... the same rooivalk you stationed in zambia to attack CAR only to chicken out? SANDF is a military modelling agency. period.
go back to previous pages for the bolded.

You are just a fool because the Griffins and Rooivalk were asked to retreat after the war settled. They were merely on standby for safe exit of SA forces in CAR. Should Seleka rebels envisaged second attack, they would have suffered the wrath of rooivalk and Griffins.

NaijaPikinGidi: If not for modelling purposes, I am not sure what the outcomes of those "SANDF's holiday cruise" trips were! The only one battle trip so far has been in Seleka's CAR. And the scars are still fresh on SANDF's bu.ttocks!!

It doesn't matter whether we are being killed or not. Forward is where we go, Asijiki, Siya phambili. It doesn't matter how many of our men fall. America has also lost many men on their mission, yet they keep on thrusting forward.

NaijaPikinGidi: Just imagine how this stup.id no brain Thokoza id.iot thinks that America is South Africa because a German gun is on the mount of an American tank. South Africans are dead from the mind of trampled vegetables with their raw uneducation. And now they want to align their incognitive inabilities to the American level.

Lowestness? must be the new English word in the South African education syllabus?

You are minus one (-1) for South Africa's human capital development/growth efforts. Should you be wasting any more oxygen?

Lowestness is what we call slang. It is ofcourse not a formal English and any English speaking chap would understand my gesture. I have studied my English in first language in one of the former white only schools. So, go and bury your tiny Nigerian brain in your stinking and sticky pepper soup.

NaijaPikinGidi: Who allowed you near a bottle of Castle Lite beer? This is your funniest comment yet!

That's a fact. SA is becoming a military power of Africa by any day. That's what military power should become. America is regarded as world military power today because they mingle in any conflict anywhere in the world where they have interest and have lost many men in between. America has lost many men in Iraq and have even generally lost against Saddam Hussaine on one on one battle, but still that did not draw them back from their mission of conquering the world.

Hezron Lorraine: there's a difference between Strongest military and Most Influencial.don't mix them up.
Yeah,Egypt is probably the strongest despite less participation in african affairs and strong alliance to the arab-world.
Its miltatry strenght outweighs that of its other african contenders.
On the issue of most Influencial,No need to go far,Nigeria takes the league,only of recent is South Africa joining the bloc.throughout History till date,Nigerian Military will always be recognised to be influencial on african peace.

Egypt must convince us about their military might. South Africa go as far as North Africa, West Africa and Central Africa regardless of whether they lose their men or not. They have even gone to an extent of challenging France to their colonial territory without any fear of losing their men. South Africa had even envisaged a deployment to Mali when Nigeria was taking too long.

NaijaPikinGidi: South Africans don't have to bridge, yet they cannot cross the bridge! Not even 2% of your high school matriculants can dare score enough to gain admission to UK universities!

For whatever restrictive reasons, Nigerians are required to bridge, yet they cross the bridge and go ahead to shatter records and set the academic pace over and above British students?

Tempting temptation ... that's what this situation presents!!

You are stupid because only above average performers are exempted for studies in Engineering and Medicine in the UK, which is the same practice in SA universities. South African students can students can gain direct entry in any UK universities for studies in Education, Law, Commerce and theology without any restrictions, for so long they managed to achieve university exemption in SA schools. Over 60% of students in SA school pass with university exemptions and that is just a piece of cake because a simple pass in four higher grade Matric subjects qualifies you to study at university.

NaijaPikinGidi: Newcomer!! As a longtime silent observer and eventually a signed-up Nairaland member, I predate your arrival on this thread ... so just keep the tantrums to yourself! My knowledge of military stuff is not what I need to, or have to flaunt here!! I know what I know. However, until you put in a South African made engine to those crafts ... you are basically wasting daylight thinking it is even 33% South African.

Obviously, a tank is useless without its gun but more useless as a stationary object! Point is, America has the capacity and has continuously shown the capacity to invent, arm, up-arm, or upgrade its arsenal with purely American built guns and components! It is a given fact of global military knowledge.

The other fact is that the rooivalk will not and cannot move anywhere without its French engine! Any attempt at firing its guns from the lame flightless metal contraption will end up with destruction to South African lives and property. Enough said!

The Rooivalk first took to the skies in 1990 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_Rooivalk. That was long before the french came to their picture. The french services came only over a decade later when Rooivalk was already a flying machine with not so much powerful flying engine. Denel was now left with a daunting task of engaging in yet another tiring project of researching about the most powerful mechanism of designing a better engine. South Africa has developed many helicopters before without any foreign help. The only difference was that Rooivalk as a gunship needed a powerful engine for which Denel solved it by outsourcing the Job to the french company.

Once more you fail to take cognisance of the fact that our education system is highly rated than your collapsed Nigerian education. Our exams are very credible and you sweat down to your bottom to achieve above average pass mark, unlike in Nigeria where everything comes on a silver platter. I have schooled with many Nigerians during my school days who were the best performers in Nigeria and only to be reduced to back of the bus in SA where some have even dropped out because of pressure. Many Nigerian students perform below average in SA and can only go as far as that 33% limit.

By the way 33.3% principle has been transformed and does not stand in the new South African school curriculum adopted in 2005. Meanwhile, in SA universities in order to manage a pass mark in any module(Subject) you would require a clear 50% and below that is FAIL or supplementary exams.

Mike..ZA:
A tank is useless without its main gun. And can South Africa produced a engine for the Rooivalk?[YES]. You know nothing about military stuff,your posts show how ignorant you're.

Just imagine how that stuppid tiny brain suggested that Americans could simply mount their gun on the tank. Nigerians are suffering from a mind of a rat with their half cooked education, and now they want to reduce the Americans cognitive abilities to their level. Americans are not crazy and they would never attempt that lowestness. This Naijapikindish is demented

NaijaPikinGidi: Collaborate on French engine importation? You still can't take in the depth of simple facts provided. Tell your lies to your fans! End of discussion!!

You fail to admit the obvious truths, Rooivalk is a South African project and is only Nigerians with a small brains that resemble their education system will deny it.

NaijaPikinGidi: I have made all my points! Nothing in your new rambling that is worth furher debate. I will not be tempted ... simple Wisdom!!

Enjoy your cranial turmoil or bliss ... whichever you prefer!

You are beaten at every level and reduced to your Nigerian self. You are just down and out, stand up and dust yourself from the blow you suffered at the hands of South Africans.

NaijaPikinGidi: You said Gun? Can the tank drive/move in optimal speed and ruggedness without the gun? YES!! Can the American's up-armour the tank with any other American gun of their choice? YES!!

Therefore the tank is American through and through in SOUL and POWER!!

So, how useful will it be without a gun? It will just become a lion without teeth or just a family car built with iron and steel.

NaijaPikinGidi: Insults will not change the fact! The truth will always haunt and hunt you! The SOUL and POWER of the rooivalk is the French engine. And without it, the craft is a lame contraption of metal sheets, rotors and ammunition! Question is why do cars, helicopters and ships require engines? Primary school reasoning!!

Rooivalk always had its original engine built by South Africans, but the engine was not that powerful to the level they hoped for. So, to save time for yet another tiring project and costs, they had to collaborate with french company which were already specialist of Aerospace to upgrade their engine parts. So what is your argument? Bwahahahahaha!!