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patriot4: It is hard to discuss with mad men.

So what about Zulu Adigwe? Bwahahahahaha!!

patriot4: 1895: the british tried to invade Benin City but the forces they sent were decimated, only two of their soldiers survived.
There are many other battles.
I am not a history professor, so I would advise you to look for the colonial war history on your own.
What comes out from your claims is that you think your people are superior, you are a megalomaniac racist person. You start to sound like some nazis.
And still you are not adressing the fact that Nigerian kingdoms fought a more advanced british empire army using WW1 weapons. Try to add that to your zulu defeat by a less advanced british army.

It is unfortunate that you do not quote any source, hence your comments must be deemed null and void. The battle of Isandlwana is still even taken with high regard by the British. Here is the proof of how the Zulus defeated the British http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/6670739/Zulu-warriors-who-defeated-British-to-be-honoured.html. Bwahahahahaha!! Give us a source that your coward Nigerians defeated the British.

patriot4: I think it is you who needs to learn one thing or two about African history. The Zulus are no where near, many kingdoms in African history: for example I would pick all these kingdoms over the Zulus: the Dahomians or the Ethiopians or the Edos or The Bereber or the Fulanis and so on...

The Zulus are the great nation, even in Nigeria there are many people who were named after the great Zulu nation and king Shaka. Oh my God how influential is such a great nation.

chris365: but in your own words:
Yes, that's what democracy is about. We do not just marginalised other groups just because we feel we are being offended through our useless traditions and religions.

so why marginalize now since beastiality is also another man's belief? i now see why there are growing numbers of lesbians in SA and SA girls are running to 9ja boys
your mentality is too wack.

Don't let me eat your own words. I was always speaking about human beings and have never spoke about other species, such as cows, dogs, snakes, etc. Your dementia only lied to you that I have commented something about other species. The staff that you are smoking is too strong for you.

Democracy exist only among humans and not animals.

NaijaPikinGidi: And how does that address the over 750 pending criminal charges on a siting president? An unassailable world record! Like I said it is not my place to provide first hand evidence on this thread ... there is also Google for you all to check.

Ignorance is a disease ... seek help while you can.

Those are just only one way of mocking by the media. Zuma never really had 750 charges. Even habitual of all criminals can never come to that. That is just a way by commercialised SA newspapers of discrediting Zuma. The very newspapers that you Nigerians accuse us of using to plant our seed of propaganda while they remain the enermy of our government.

NaijaPikinGidi: You know next to nothing about your parliamentary processes and it is my place now to disgrace you block headed kid:

(1) Banana Republic ... so where did this notion come from? Feeling guilty!!
(2) Your secrecy bill has been passed into law by your parliament and simply awaits Zuma's rubber stamp.
(3) You like generalizing and fail to give specifics. Show your knowledge ... name the "other countries". (I await your response).
(4) Lie! Not every bill is refered to your Constitutional Court! Zuma's rubber stamp on the Bill makes it a binding law on you all, except if and when challenged before the Constitutional court by a body seeking certain reliefs! The very duty of Nigeria's Supreme Court.

First class ignoramus YOU ARE!

You are embarrassing yourself because of your ignorance about SA law. I am a South African who has studied SA law in university. There is no bill in SA that can be passed by the parliament before it can be tested for its constitutional relevance. It is a procedure that must be followed by the parliament because failure to do so can render the president for impeachment. I cannot believe this ignorance of yours, bwahahahahaha!!

patriot4: The british lost many battles in Nigeria. The timing of their attack against the Zulus show that the Zulus were not as strong as The kingdoms of Nigeria. Nigerian kingdoms were attacked with WW1 weapons (including numerous maxim machine guns).
I sure love that shaka film, but let us try to keep it real.
You are not the superior being you claim to be.

Lies!! Give me one battle that the British lost in Nigeria. I will shortly paste for you proofs that Zulus and even SA as a whole won battles against the British.

chris365: so let me understand this.
if i am a south african under this kind of "democrazy" and i decide to f*ck my dog and marry it in a church, it is allowed right? since that's what you mean by democracy.

stop confusing you brain. it lacks the capacity to cause confusion than it has.

Oh! Your dementia again. Humans and dogs are different species.

chris365: trust me, you don't want me calling on our great warriors that are now gods on your great grand father and shaka zulu.

tell me of any combat mission you fought and won from 96? NONE

so go compare your army with ghanaian army(even though they only manned checkpoints in SL, they still heard gunshots more than your army)

try something else abeg

You are demented, SA never had any combat mission other than peace keeping mission ever since 96. You bounced.

chris365: If giving homos freedom to f*ck in the open is termed as democracy to you, then your government needs to declare state of emergency on reeducating south african youths

we are not scared of losing european union aid like you, so we'll never accept it.

Yes, that's what democracy is about. We do not just marginalised other groups just because we feel we are being offended through our useless traditions and religions. We must keep our own believes to ourselves since everybody has the right to stay free from gay relationships, just as gays have the right to stay away from heterosexual relationships. There is no any room of survival for orthodox in a true democracy.

chris365: hehehehe... i love how these guys are f.ooling themselves.

so you want to compare cave wars with spares and arrows to modern day combat? be my guess.
your masters fought WW1 and 2, not the rainbow south africa.
please don't bring the bush war you never won to this comparison.

we won biafra, SL, Liberia and sponsored ivorian (which we sidelined you ) war. feel free to tell me which one we lost please.
since you already know the way to the labrary DUNCE

Who told you that? My great great grandfather fought in the second world war and was compensated with a plot on his return.

Zulus were the first Africans to ever fight the British and defeated them. I just wish if Shaka the great would have met the Nigerians then and surely he could have kicked the hell out of them. Bwahahahahaha!!

NaijaPikinGidi: J. Zuma ... the only sitting President in the world with over 750 criminal charges hanging over his head as we speak. Just read your comment/excuses above and see how much you embarrass yourselves in public! Marvin Gayes se.xual healing should be considered for SA's new national anthem!

There's lots of untold reasons for the Secrecy Bill forcefully passed by your Parliament. You should rather spend your time researching it because so far your ramblings are rendered mute!!

You are indeed suffering from cranium condition. The protection of state information bill had many of its provisions repealed(cancelled).

Henry120: It is an APV you fool.

I will advice you to throw that one away, I know you can do much better than that.

NaijaPikinGidi: Speak for yourself young lad! Don't sit there and imagine things for Nigerians whereas we know how hopeless and disenfranchised you black population has been even under your ANC majority rule. From a big ANC to perennial breakaway parties, COPE, EFF just to cater for selfish ends? There is no need to post links to show South African frustrations with every aspect of your government and democracy! We know the story, so deal with it. We are dealing with ours!

Block head!!

Bwahahahahaha!! SA is one country which affords its citizens young and old the right to form their political parties. So everybody has the right to break away from the ANC and form his or her political party. For your information, since the general election are near in Mzansi, I will have to form my own political party and register it to partake in the next years general elections where I could possibly get the seat in the parliament, lol!. Not everyone has that privilege in their countries. Bwahahahahaha!!

NaijaPikinGidi: The Secrecy Bill

[color=#828282]‘The pending enactment of the Protection of Information Bill means South Africa has lost its leadership on matters of advancing the right to information on the African continent.’[/color] – Mukelani Dimba from the Open Democracy Advice Centre

Read the story of the "farewell to Democracy in South Africa" bill:

http://www.capechameleon.co.za/printed-version/issue-15/news-story16/


https://www.capechameleon.co.za/public/images/printed-version/issue-15/news-story16/image-2.jpg

https://bookslive.co.za/files/2013/04/Zapiro-Secrecy-Bill.jpg
This illustrates the political motivation behind the bill ... to cover ANC corruption!

I told you that SA is not a banana republic. We have a true democracy and any laws which contravenes our constitution will never see the light. Unlike in other countries where the parliament is supreme over the constitution, such bills would have been passed to become law. Not in SA where every bill has to be referred to the constitutional court to prove if the bill is in line with the constitution before it can be passed to the public and made law. Sorry you bounced bra.

chris365: Nigerian made APC

If I were you, I would have never disgraced myself by posting this jeep-cum-APC. That jeep is far from becoming an APC. I will later paste the web to see for yourself how a real APC look like.

chris365: am not denying the cases of insurgencies, but pleas as i have given proof i expect you to prove to me if the present administration rigged elections. or else your argument is that of a drunk (no proof).

rather, you are the one denying the fact that south africa has a struggling and immature democracy which i have given you facts. you a a dullard abeg

Hope that will do you just fine:

http://mobile.punchng.com/output.php?link=http://www.punchng.com/news/senator-escapes-sanction-over-allegation-of-vote-rigging/

South Africa remains the only true democracy in Africa.

Lesbians and Gays are free to marry each other, but unfortunately this will only remain the long term dream in Nigeria.

sheyie2007: Their hands even dangle freely inside their own uniforms kharki

Bwahahahahaha! Stop fooling yourself. South Africans are not skinny people, rather go to Kenya and ethiopia if you want to see skinny people. Ethnology will teach you that South Africans as Bantu people have medium to heavy build bodies. To your information the SANDF was even complaining about obesity in the army. Bwahahahahaha!

chris365:
truth hurts huh?

then why is south africa in that report? did i write it?
ANC is the most supported party because blacks are the most populated race in south africa. and ANC uses RACE, APARTHEID STRUGGLE and RIGGING to deceive the blacks, so it qualifies as a one party democracy. duhhhh!!!!!
honestly, i don't give a f*ck bout your democracy but you need to shut up bout ours. cos you are making baseless points.
simple

Bwahahahahaha!!! How will ANC rig the votes if they know well that they are the majority supported party. ANC does not use race to canvass for votes because the ANC has many white supporters and members. Your knowledge about SA politics is up to poo. Bwahahahahaha!!

chris365:
oh my God, what do they teach in those beautiful schools of yours. you people just keep showing how dull you are

here's the true meaning of pseudo democracy:
Pseudo-Democratic: describes a political system which calls itself democratic, but offers no real choice for the citizens. This lack of choice can come from limited amount of diverse parties eligible for a vote, cemented power structures which are not really affected by any vote, no availability of a voting option "none of the above" for voters who favour change to the current political landscape, no direct democratic means.

now tell me how south africa, England etc is not a pseudo democracy
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page72308?oid=96692&sn=Marketingweb%20detail
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/18/devolution-england-pseudo-democracy

go back to school cos clearly you still have a lot to learn in life.

You cannot run away from the fact that there had been high incidence of insurgency in Nigeria recently, bombing of schools, churches and government buildings. Neither can you ignore the recent mass killing of civilian by your military in Baga nor can deny the rigging of elections.

chris365: shut up. south africa does not practice true democracy. your democracy is a one party democracy. therefore does not qualify for a true democracy.

go to page 3
http://www.cjdhr.org/2010-06/Valery-Ferim.pdf

so stop fooling yourself.

You are such a fool. SA is a multi party democracy and the only thing is that the ANC is the most supported political party in SA, that's why it is always seem to be one party state. ANC runs eight provinces while DA runs western cape. In 1994 elections ANC won seven provinces, IFP won Kwazulu Natal while NP won western cape. You are just only shooting blanks bra.

chris365: dude shut up. south African has no democracy. how can you elect someone who was facing charges of corruption, fraud and money laundering relating to a multi-billion dollar 1999 arms deal if he was not imposed on you?. and we all know the court acquitting him does not really prove his true innocence. do you know how many murderers have been freed by the court?

in your own words you admitted he was tempted and he's only human:
"that lady visited Zuma at his house and walked about the house Unclad after she had bath. She then afterwards asked Zuma for body massage, for which Zuma voluntarily offered to do it. Zuma is a human being who has sexually feelings just like me and you. Can you ever imagine what will happen from massaging a Unclad woman".

guy south africa does not have any democracy and i can prove it
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page72308?oid=261675&sn=Detail&pid=72308

http://m.news24.com/news24/MyNews24/YourStory/Is-South-Africa-a-democracy-20110523

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/02/26/when-will-democracy-come-to-south-africa/

this shows how south africans live on falsehood and are liars.

please can you give us any proof of recent vote rigging by Jonathan's administration or else it is your country that has a lot to learn from our democracy. s.tupid fellow

How is corruption, fraud and money laundering have any bearing towards democracy? Such can merely be treated as crime prosecuted by the court of law. Treats to democratic principles are among others the following as stated below;

-High incidence of insugency as we have recently seen in Nigeria, meaning not all citizens are happy with the government,
-Ripping of elections as we have seen among others, Nigeria, Zimbabwe and others,
-Harassment and mass killing of civilians by military for no good cause,
-Dictatorships and authoritarianism
-etc.

Besides Zuma was never found guilty of those crimes as there was insufficient evidence to convict him. SA is not a banana republic and we do not hold kangaroo court here. Every person accused of any crime has the right for a fair hearing before the court. That's what a true democracy is. Your fellow citizen (Mend leader) sought refuge in SA and rather asked to be prosecuted in Mandela's country citing Nigerias lack of democratic rule in their legal system.

patriot4: You look more and more ridiculous. Conspiracy ! is that all you have to defend him ?
How can you ever be taken seriously ?

Besides, Zuma was proven not guilty by the court of law. In SA you are not a criminal nor rapist until proven so by the court of law. The judgement of the court ruled out that there was a sufficient information that Zuma's r.ape charges were inspired by political foul play by his rivals in the ANC. The woman behaviour was sexually provocative and proven to be staged rape.

patriot4: So if I get you right then south africa elects who ever ANC puts in front of it. So on your own, you are admitting that there is no democracy in south africa. This remind me of the "elections" in some fake democracies. Just end the conversation now before looking evenmore stupi*.

I cannot see your argument anymore. SA is a multi party democracy and everybody including myself has the right to form a political party which can partake on the elections. Every party has its own president who will likely become the president of the country should they win the election.

patriot4: There is no rigging of votes in Nigeria. But I can assure you that there is rigging of votes in south africa. By the way, wasn't zuma a rapist ?

Zuma was never a molester, that was a merely political conspiracy plotted by his rivals. Zuma's support in the ANC was huge and was a proof that he could become the president of the organisation and eventually of the country. Hence, his rivals conspired with that lady to visit Zuma and seduce him so that he would land in jail should the lady press charges of rape. Firstly, that lady visited Zuma at his house and walked about the house naked after she had bath. She then afterwards asked Zuma for body massage, for which Zuma voluntarily offered to do it. Zuma is a human being who has sexually feelings just like me and you. Can you ever imagine what will happen from massaging a naked woman.

patriot4: There is no rigging of votes in Nigeria. But I can assure you that there is rigging of votes in south africa. By the way, wasn't zuma a rapist ?

Rigging of votes in SA? You are indeed sick. Everybody in the world knows that the ANC of Mandela is the most supported party in SA and there is no opposition party that come close to that, except in the western cape where Democratic Alliance reigns. We have IEC here in South Africa which monitors polls ensuring free and fair elections.

patriot4: in those videos, it is the corruption of your political system that is exposed.
moreover your talk about military coups is an other hypocrisy: When Nigeria was a dictatorship, south africa was a racist state which held down more than 70% of its population. It is that same Nigeria that fought against the apartheid racist regim right from 1970. Nigeria was the first significant country to start that fight, and at the beginning the west and most countries who joined later on were all mocking Nigeria for Siding juctice in south africa and they said we would never archieve our goal! well your liberty is a proof we archieved our goal.
And once again, our military doesn't kill civilians. Stop spreading lies on us, you should better use your freedom (which we fought for) to do better things.
By the way I recall that your current military brass are former south african rebels and that they committed a lot of rape and killing of civilian women and children.
So at least be smart enough to not throw stones when you live in a glass house.

We are speaking the current and here you are on about the history. Did Nigeria ever managed to achieve true democracy since its independence? Don't tell me about corruption, because it is just another form of crime termed embezzlement. SA after 1994 did manage to achieve true democracy and that's a fact.

chris365: wrong!! That's according to your type of democracy.

Democracyis not a sharply defined form of government that would need to be implemented in just one and no other way. Both in theoryand in practice there are as many systems of democracy than democratic countries. Nevertheless there are some general features as well as some groups of democratic systems that may be distinguished from each other.

You need to educate yourself a lot more and try leaving your enclave before you go about embarassing youself. Life doesn't evolve around south africa

We have our own system of democracy just like you have yours. So stay the f*ck out of ours.

That's why Naijapikingidi accused you south africans of always claiming false informations as fact.

That I know, yes we have a plethora of systems of democracy, but the question stand, is everybody happy with the kind of democracy you practice in Nigeria? The answer is a big NO. There is still high activities of insugency in Naija including rigging of votes. Rigging of votes clearly shows that the will of the majority which is the foundation of democracy has been trampled upon, thus becoming pseudo democracy.

chris365: so that's your defense now. It's no longer about being a puppet?
So it would mean that with all your development and bouyant economy, YOUR COUNTRY IS STILL A CHARITY CASE that can't take care of itself after apatheid for still recieving aid money.
South africans were even begging UK when they threatened to cut aid to your country.

So while we were telling them to go to hell with their aid, you were begging them to keep paying.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house boy... Didn't your mama teach you better than that?

South Africa does not use foreign aids to build infrastructure, instead they use it to help aids orphans. By the way we do not qualify for foreign aids anymore.

patriot4: Back to the sender:
By your own criteria south africa is not a democracy.
http://www.freemoviesdown.com/2013/07/myn-bala-french-dvdrip.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJtK2N2peI[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HMM3v7PEfg

Every country has crime, whether true or pseudo democratic.

Here are the signs that one country has a pseudo democracy;

-High activities of rebels and insugency
-Rigging of votes
-Military coups
-Dictatorship and authoritarianism
-Harassment and killing of civilians by military for no good cause

chris365: and would you call Israel a puppet? Or egypt just cos they receive aid money.

Go and make your research, we never begged for US help or aid. Our leaders even told them to go to hell with their aid money after they threatened to cut aid if they approve the anti gay bill.

Forget what Obam said, he doesn't have any relationship with Nigeria. It's just business.

Fact is that there's too much interest in Nigeria due to our due take over from you. And america doesn't want to be left out.

Am challenging you to look for any source that says Nigeria asks for money from US to fix any of ou problems.

This is the problem with south africans. You lack analytical skills to evaluate anything, which is the reason for your regular copy and paste attitude.

America saw that you were just a charity case who failed to look after himself even five decades after independence.

NaijaPikinGidi:
Take your headache pills and go get some sleep! You South Africans never learn anything!! Is your true democracy the one that silences the opposition via Secrecy of Information bill in your Parliament? Contrast that with Nigeria's enactment of the Freedom of Information bill into law ... and it becomes obvious how much of a joke you South Africans are!!

Please address the points and stop dancing around with your naked butts! Shameful lot!!

Let me correct you, the information bill (termed secrecy bill by the media) is not intended to silence opposition parties. It is more about protection of state information. The right to information held by the state as entrenched by the constitution needed to be limited because the state felt that there is some sensitive information of the state that the government must have the right to keep away from the public. Another aspect was that of forcing journalists and whistle blowers who held sensitive information from the state to be prosecuted so as to enable the state acquire information from the affected parties. To prove that SA is a true democracy, this bill was never let off the hook and had to be discussed in the parliament until certain provisions which proved to be unconstitutional were repealed.

Enactment of Laws in SA do not just pass without being referred to the Constitutional Court to prove their constituency before being signed by the president. Any law found to contravene the provisions of the constitution as the supreme law of the country will be deemed null and void. That's how true democracy work my friend.