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Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 7:33pm On May 16, 2020*

eplanning:
No p... You can teach your children that foolishness of an effeminate white Jesus. For some of us, its the end of such nonsense.

Not in my household and my sphere of influence we don't. We say it as it is. Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world genealogically speaking is Semite of origin, His genealogy can be traced from the Southern kingdom tribe of Judah, right through king David, pass Shem the middle son of Noah, straight up to Adam. He is neither white nor Black in colour. He is reddish brown, in between black and white, as just as same as Adam was in colour.

Now, as for donnie, he is more confused than a fart let loose out on a fan making manufacturing plant production floor. He claims to be a BHI, (i.e. black Hebrew Israelite) yet he can't trace his left hand over to his right ear, talkless, know which of the 12 tribes of Israel is his ethnicity. He is an identity stealer, no better than the Ashkenazi Jews, currently inhabiting modern day Israel. Both coveting an identity that is not theirs.

The Bible prophesied that every Israelite will be scattered, flung to all the four corners of the earth, that they will disappear into extinction, literally into thin air. These all because of their wickedness, stubbornness, stone cold hard heart, stiff necks and idolatry indulgence. God as a matter of fact issued Israel a divorce certificate. donnie likes to keep quiet about this truth, lmao. He puts the lid on that and prefers to keep schtum about ugly skeletons in the cupboard like that, lmao

Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 7:14pm On May 16, 2020*

donnie:
There is no such race as Middle Eastern, it's a SCAM. In fact, there is no middle East. It's was North-East Africa before ESAU created the Suez canal, separating the region from Africa and renaming it Middle-East. The league of nations came together in 1948 to create the fraudulent state of Israel. Then they set up schools to teach the people our Hebrew culture and a language (which is even YIDDISH and not the Ancient Hebrew/ Paleo-Hebrew/BANTU).

MuttleyLaff:
The Shemites, the middle son of Noah, received land from the Nile delta, north of Lebanon up to East of India, with climate thats neither hot or cold but is a blend of both, hence why their skin is in the middle, as in meaning inbetween black and white. It's reddish brown, after thè reddish earth Adam and Eve were made up from.

donnie:
Those who occupy the land are Europeans (Kazzars and Askenazi) who migrated from Germany, Russia, Ukraine etc. Many scholars and writers have exposed them eg. The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler. Even the MESSIAH spoke about them...
Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

"¹¹The angel of the LORD proceeded: “Behold, you have conceived and will bear a son. And you shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard your cry of affliction.
¹²He will be a wild donkey of a man, and his hand will be against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”"
- Genesis 16:12

Of course, there wasn't going to be peace in that region and even besides that Genesis 16:12 above fact, this is prophecy playing out as declared by Noah nah in Genesis 9:27, about Japheth (i.e. Kazzars and Askenazi Jews who migrated from Poland, Germany, Russia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Eastern Europe etcetera) taking over Shem's tents, land, territory etcetera

donnie:
According to the scriptures, Israel will be trodden underfoot by gentiles until the time for the gentiles is complete and that's when MESSIAH arrives to execute vengeance on our behalf. According to the scriptures, Israel will have peace and they'll be no more wars after they return. What does that tell you? Are the impostors at peace today?

Luke 21:24
They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Yes, and that is exactly what is happening right now by your other half identity thieving brothers, oppressing and terrorising the Palestines over there

donnie:
Were they taken as prisoners into all nations? Isn't that fulfilled in my people? Has the time of gentiles been completed? Has MESSIAH come? Are they not the gentiles treading upon Jerusalem? Why are they not enjoying peace?

The Bible never said Israel will enjoy peace, rather the prophecy says that the until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled they will trample upon Jerusalem and yes the land taken over by imposters. Compare with Genesis 9:27 too.

Of course, Jerusalem was besieged and razed down to rubbles, at exactly 40 years in 70 AD, after Yeshusua Ha Mashsiach had made that Luke 21:24 prophecy in 33 AD

donnie:
Isaiah 2:4
Then He will judge between the nations and arbitrate for many peoples.
They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will no longer take up the sword against nation, nor train anymore for war

This should be a wake up call for you then to repent. You know the truth, so it 'll be easier for your to turn around from this temporary insane misadventure you set yourself on

Dont use the same brush to tar everyone and/or everybody. There are good Gentiles and there are not good Gentiles. Say no to racism

donnie:
I have never seen the book of Adam and Eve, or Thomas, talkless of reading. JASHER AND ENOCH are scripture.

Help yourself to your heart's delight from here below URL links to download pdf softcopies

donnie:
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You're a clown.

The only court jester I've seen prancing about on this thread is you. Your credibility is in tatters and the little ounce, in rags left you want to spoil it with this fake news misleading non existent comment my ex- Egyptian late President. You better take it down and I'll do same for you here because you do know, the man never said anything remote close to what you are spreading about in there
I can provide you with the video of the exact interview and nothing of this nature was ever said in the entirety of the video

Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 6:17pm On May 16, 2020

eplanning:
They deceived you that you began as monkeys hanging from trees and practicing witchcraft untill they civilized you and you believed. Is that what you want to promote?

Daejoyoung:
l never said that, On the contrary we Africans have very rich culture and history to be proud of, But donnie is promoting biblical history as african history, and this is my confusion.

Dont mind eplanning ojaare. He is filled of disgust at how seemingly hopeless the state of affairs are, with not so much of a glimmer of hope light inside the tunnel, so him and donnie need someone to point accusing fingers at as the cause of whatever woes is going on
They forget when to point a finger to someone three are pointing back at you and one pointing to where you are standing.

You'll find out that whoever controlled the presence then, rewrote the past, rewrote history lmao. History, is always written up by conquerors, by winners and victors anyday. C'est la vie, that's life.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 5:40pm On May 16, 2020

Maximus69:
Sorry Sir i'm not here to teach you, if you feel you know something contrary to that please do well to present it.

God's word never asked us to attack anoone for preaching or teaching publicly what he knows.

But if you want to know more about why true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) don't speak in tongues today, please welcome a free home Bible study, fill in your contact address on (jw.org) and a qualified Bible Scholar will be sent to teach you!

You always like thinking too highly of yourself dont you, hmm? Now who did you see bringing chalk and duster to the communion of drinking wine, breaking and sharing bread that we are in philadephia having together, huh?

Have spotted anyone with a dagger hidden under their cloak on this thread ni, hmm? What's with attack? Why are you miconstruing iron sharpen iron for attack? You lay down your stick, I lay down my stick, we let the shapes, judge by themselves, lmao.

I had access to the best Teacher in the whole wide world and beyond. Thank you very much with your JW for org.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 5:13pm On May 16, 2020*

Daejoyoung:
If l know that jesus was black today, does it also change the message of jesus in the gospels? what would be the exact after effect even if we tell the truth, what would this achieve for the blacks?
Jesus from the gospels never seemed to care about his colour else your argument would be more relevant. Except you have other gospel stories of jesus.

donnie:
You are a Christian, I am not. The scriptures are OUR scriptures, not Christian scriptures.

Last last, we will soon hear, like many Christians have said, that Jesus is to you whatever you think he is. Do you know what that means? It means he wasn't a real fellow that existed. So please, leave our bible for us and go worship your oyinbo abi colorless Jesus.

We believe HE CAME IN THE FLESH. Ever seen flesh without color?

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

If you deny that he came in the flesh, you are Antichrist.

Don't let donnie suck you into any Jesus is black thing because Jesus was not black and He wasn't white either. Jesus, just like every other Middle East region person, is just in the middle of black and white. He, in fact is reddish brown.

Life started along the Euphrates river, that is close to the Middle East region. The Hamites, descendants of Ham, Noah's second born son, received the land Africa which is a hot climate region, hence their black skin. The Japhites, descendants of Japheth, Noah's eldest son, received the land, north of Africa, where it is cold, hence their white skin. The Shemites, the middle son of Noah, received land from the Nile delta, north of Lebanon up to East of India, with climate thats neither hot or cold but is a blend of both, hence why their skin is in the middle, as in meaning inbetween black and white. It's reddish brown, after thè reddish earth Adam and Eve were made up from.

Now, donnie believes in the Bible narratives but he also as well, is heavily deep into apocrypha and pseudepigrapha books like Book of Enoch, the Book of Jasher, the Book of Adam and Eve, the Book of Thomas, the Book of Jubilee etcetera who each have conflicting and contradicting entries about the skin colour of various patriarchs.

donnie is a "mad hatter" loose cannon, with head inside a bucket. He is unable to produce maps dated earlier than 1476 circa. Even those 1476 circa ones have kingdom of Judah fictitiously put on the maps by a proselytized on board mongrelised sailor Jew.

"²⁴When Noah sobered up and learned what his youngest son had done,
²⁵he said, “I now put a curse on Canaan!
He will be the lowest slave of his brothers.
²⁶I ask the LORD my God to bless Shem
and make Canaan his slave.
²⁷I pray God will give Japheth more and more land
and let him take over the territory of Shem.
May Canaan be his slave."
- Genesis 9:24-27

Daejoyoung, don't permit donnie to bamboozle you with some Deutronomy Chapter 28 bullpiss crap because it all, the prophecy, as you see it pan out today and to date, started way back in Genesis 9:24-27, as plain in sight, as you can see above. You don't have to be a spiritual guru or rocket scientist, in order to understand what that Genesis 9:24-27 is saying and the reality of the implication as things are even right now.

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 4:12pm On May 16, 2020

Kobojunkie:

Ndo. Peele.

Kobojunkie:
The synoptic gospels have nothing to do with this. This is a simple question. If you have no answers, just say so.

If you don't like neither of the, up to three different answers I've advanced, then please just say here what is the answer you were expecting.

Kobojunkie:
It is the parable of the 10 talents to me.

I know, it has to be your way or the highway.

Kobojunkie:
First you define grace as you choose there. When you consider my definition as I believe it, you should understand why such concepts as "levels of grace" become meaningless.

I know and it's OK that you believe just the way you believe it, like with, it's the "Parable of the 10 talents"

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 3:30pm On May 16, 2020*

Kobojunkie:
I don't have an ego anymore... I had to die to my ego(self) in order that I may become a follower of Christ. Sorry to disappoint you.

You have a stubborn ego then that doesn't want to die easily. You know about cats having 9 lives huh? Makes me wonder how many lives left your ego has, lmao. Its still crouching on your back there

Kobojunkie:
I didn't ask you to summarize what was written there. Based on your claims about Faith, I asked you why then did Jesus scold Peter.

Every time the disciples spent with Yahushua aka Jesus is a school time. Peter was the only one actually scolded, the rest too were if you read on or read the other synoptic gospels, lmao.

Jesus scolded him because he lost the little faith he had and to make matters worse even didn't trust Yahusha aka Jesus. Are you happy now with that answer, hmm?

Kobojunkie:
First, the Parable of the 10 talents have nothing to do with Grace.

First, quit saying, "The Parable of the 10 talents" because there is no such thing, the total amount of talents the narrative started with were 8 talents, as in meaning, 5 talents, 2 talents and 1 talent given out.

Kobojunkie:
Second, we both define grace differently. I don't see what a bird flying 'gracefully' has to do with what I posted many comments ago about 'grace'.

Grace biblically speaking is, unmerited, unearned and/or undeserved favour. Have you got a problem with that meaning, hmm?

Kobojunkie:
Humans grow... but there are really no levels of growth, is there? Such ideas are made meaningless since each person growth exists, and is overall measured independently of the next. So, i would not attribute such things as levels or grades e.t.c to growth. And certainly not to grace.

Are you trying to imply we don't grow in grace? Or we don't enjoy and benefit from increasing grace ni?

Kobojunkie:
If you want to believe so, who am I to deny you that idea?

I say things as they pan out. I am sure, I am not the first and won't be the last say them two observations facts to you.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 3:01pm On May 16, 2020

hupernikao:
Is Isaiah 28 out of the context of tongues as per OP? OP didnt fabricate this o, He is quoting Paul also, as Paul himself referred to Isaiah 28:11 when explaining tongues. Should we do away with that? Of course no.

I know what I was talking about when I advanced to you to leave stammering out of Isaiah 28:11, which you were hell bent on doing your eisegesis on, lmao. C'mon now, let's at least be honest and sincere with each other nah. Apostle Paul never once strayed on to stammering in that verse. He limited himself to the relevant and related Isaiah 28:11b part ignoring the Isaiah 28:11a part that stammering in it.

1 Corinthians 14:21, that which Apostle Paul posited, is not a mirror image of Isaiah 28:11

hupernikao:
And dont forget, i am not fixative on Isa 28:11, the issue is there is no serious argument here push away my inquiring into the usage of word in context of Isa 28:11. I have told you, we will get to the scriptures you are impressed on overtime, no need to rush. Handling Isa 28:11 first is primarily to this OP and that should be dont well.

Like I've earlier said, it not your fault, it is OP who inadvertently gave you leeway without setting boundaries, lmao.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 2:26pm On May 16, 2020

Maximus69:
That time different people do come to the meetings of Christians and don't forget that the Bible has not been completed so certain information that's supposed to remain secret was revealed to the Christians in spiritual languages that must be translated later for those who must know of it! 1Corinthians 14:1-20

But now the book has been completed! Revelations 22 18-19

I am not following, I seem to have been lost on you. You have lost me, is what I am saying here.

I am going to check we are singing from the same hymn book and common perspective. OK?

I have allowed Acts 2:4 to slide with your alleged purpose reason, but now you've sprung up an extensive and long range 1 Corinthians 14:1-20, to then follow up with a Revelation 22:18-19 menacing looking when read scripture, so let's see where the valid markers on the ground are from the following questions
1/ Please tell how many times was/were the gift of speaking intelligibly in tongues/language recorded?
2/ Please give the corresponding bible verses for each occasion of #1 above
3/ What is the common denominator in each ocassion of speaking in tongues?
4/ What objective and purpose was achieved from the speaking in tongue experience (s)

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 2:06pm On May 16, 2020

hupernikao:
Like i told you earlier, leave "everyone" out of your discussion. I am yet to see your explanation but only seeing emotions. I asked you to present logical explanation all you are doing is scattered and not well presented. You must know how to present your case well in doctrinal arguments.

Look at soot with your disjointed post trying to tar snow black, lmao.

hupernikao:
Jumping from scriptures to scriptures doesnt present you as a proper bible student. If the writers of the bible have such attitude, we will all be in great confusion today

Yinmu. Smh.

hupernikao:
In this, you are yet to make a single contribution to the topic as you are too emotional in your discussions. Set aside that and face the bible. Explain scriptures, dont jump from one to one, present a logical explanation, systematic flow of thought. Didnt you see how the OP presented his case. It is because of its systematic explanation that gave me interest in the OP and hence my contribution. But you? I havent seen you present anything yet but nugget and shades. I will expect you to do so as a proper bible student.

Looks like you've just discovered and learned the word "emotional" and so everything to you has to be construed as being "too emotional" if when it's a constructive criticism. Anyway that's by the side but arent you ashamed of making bare faced lies in public?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 1:49pm On May 16, 2020

I have just noticed that it is OP himself who introduced Isaiah 28:11. This unfortunately is a red herring which conveniently hupernikao had lashed on and to make a meal out off.

Isaiah 28:11, clearly is prophesying about the impending Assyrian assault on the Northern kingdom of Israel, where the Israelites who later became the lost tribes of Israel, would be captives and into exile under the stammering grunting commands in a foreign language they wouldn't undetstand.

Isaiah 28:11 shouldn't have featured in the OP and would expect hupernikao to ignore it and move on, if he/she has any meaningful contribution to share or make on this one out of 9 spiritual gift of the Holy Spirit

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 1:22pm On May 16, 2020

Maximus69:
It's purposeless now that true Christian (Jehovah's Witnesses) have been to all the countries of the earth and made the Good News available in all the languages on planet earth.

That was the purpose why speaking in foreign languages happened so it's no more useful now! Act 2:4

Why do you like deceiving yourself and misleading others like this nah?

"Agba ntara" if to say nah small pikin, we for understand but not "firigbon" nah.

OK, just for the sake of this discussion, let's play along with your Acts 2:4 purpose and pretend it is right, what of the remaining other two NT occasions of the recorded speaking of tongues, what were their purposes?

Christianity Etc › Re: Riyadhgoddess Releases Her Book Today- ATONEMENT: The Mystery Of Reconciliation by MuttleyLaff: 1:07pm On May 16, 2020

Darato:
It’s really Insightful...

Yeah, I noticed that from just that small picture snap she provided

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 1:05pm On May 16, 2020

hupernikao:
I am not sure you want to follow this discussion sir.
The OP set the pace of this discussion by quoting several scriptures to disprove speaking in tongues. My first focus is for us to examine all the scriptures he used and put them in right context of the author. After this we can move to the concept of tongues and have detailed explanation.

Mixing things up wont help anyone and avoiding a verse that is vivid in this OP will not either. If you are ready to contribute to this, i have taken Isa 28:11 as the first scriptures to tackled and i am still going to others, if you have read my position, what is right for you is to explain what that same verse is saying considering the writers intent and words.
But what you are doing above will not allow a systematic explanation of the concept at hand and will only lead to unending arguments. I will chose to focus only on the step-wise explanation of scriptures to unravel this concept to reach a conclusion if possible and i will only respond to you when you deemed ready to contribute in that same line.

You can cycle and play with your bicycle all by yourself.

Everyone has already informed you that you have set off with the wrong foot forward. The OP has explicitly informed you in no uncertain terms that you are and have deviated from whats in the original post, but you are hell bent on charting your own tangent course mixing up apples with oranges.

Each of the 3 recorded speaking of tongues in the NT had nothing to do with stammering. In fact, the hearing audiences and pedestrians found each occasion to be spoken language that they could intelligibly and crisp clearly understand, so please quit derailing the topic and stop wasting forum storage space with your unnecessary disjointed verbiage.

Stick to and within the purview of OP's thread topic. Thank you in advance for complying.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 12:50pm On May 16, 2020

donnie:
It is judgement from YAH, wake up!

Deuteronomy 28:45-48
[45]Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of YAHUAH thy ELOHIYM, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
[46]And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
[47]Because thou servedst not YAHUAH thy ELOHIYM with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
[48]Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which YAHUAH shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

donnie funnily, just reminds me of the Oluwo of Iwo and his paranoia about enemies, lmao.

He will tell his Canadian Olori, HRH the queue that enemies are after him, but when she asks him, who are the enemies, he will say them, then when asks him who are them, His response would be the enemies, leaving HRH, the queen non the wiser. The enemy is them. Them is the enemy lmao.

Christianity Etc › Re: Riyadhgoddess Releases Her Book Today- ATONEMENT: The Mystery Of Reconciliation by MuttleyLaff: 12:37pm On May 16, 2020

RiyaGoddess:
MuttleyLaff if I understand my publisher well, the book is free till tomorrow. Use the link below to check.

https://www.amazon.com/ATONEMENT-MYSTERY-RECONCILIATION-Deborah-Shile-ebook/dp/B088C4FQ8T/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=deborah+shile&qid=1589090167&sr=8-1

Thanks Riyadhgoddess. The screenshot grab picture content message looks promising and makes biblical sense. I'll get on this asap

Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 11:46am On May 16, 2020

donnie:
Loads of rubbish.

This is what antique bronze or brass looks like.
We haven't burnt this one in fire yet o.

Revelation 1:15
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

1/So what colour is brass then my beloved dear brother?
2/ So when you leave the bronze or brass in the open sunlight, what transformation do you envisage it will get, hmm?

Please don't push me to fire isolated bible verses, like you are doing uncontextually back at you because I can and will do, if you continually push, to counter your ignorant and misleading isolated bibles verses you are waving about, lmao.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 11:37am On May 16, 2020

Acehart:
The gift doesn’t work alone. It is very easy to from the analogy of the human body parts working together, so also do all the gifts work at once. Also, Paul ask: “are all Apostles? Are all prophets?”. The gifts (in unison) was for a set of Christian leaders - the foundation stones - those who led the Jews and Gentiles into Christ. Glossolalia is something else: one person in his room would be instructed to open his mouth and breathe in the Holy Spirit and out of his belly would issue out wells of living waters - preposterous. Even those who don’t know the difference between Jude and Judas speak this language they say confuses the devil.

Some say the same pattern of words (tongues) after forty years. What can of language is that? If you ask them to say the name, “Yeshua” or “Jesus”, in tongues, they would look confused, and if you give them one million years, they still wouldn’t provide an answer.

Let's wait, lmao.

God is not the author of confusion. Neither is His word either. It is crystal clear that and there are incontrovertible evidences that speaking in divers tongue is recorded in the Bible for posterity sake and a time like this, to have publicly happened only 3 times.

The Bible tells, why on each occasions, them 3 times of speaking in tongues happened. The Bible tells us, the objective of them 3 times of speaking in tongues. The Bible, when you look under the hood of when this phenomenon was recorded happening, reveals a pattern and a common denominator. The Bible reveals, when you look closely at this gift, the primary purpose for dispersing It, this particular gift. There are just too much to mention, but space and time, arent co-operation.

Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 11:22am On May 16, 2020

donnie:
Tufia! I am not a Christian.

Whether you are Christian or you arent a Christian doesnt make a difference. The glaring fact remains that, you jumped out from the fire pan, only to land straight into the fire place. You ran from the wolves in sheep clothing headlong into the embracing arms of a devouring ravenous bear. Ouch.

Shem and all his descendants were ruddy in colour, that is they are bronze skinned, as meaning looking like olive yellow skinned as you would see people close and in the Middle East regions look like. Now fyi, bronze is an alloy, meaning it's a mixture of copper and tin. It is also known as strong orange. It as a matter of fact, belongs to the brown family and it's colour is associated with maturity and worthiness (i.e. red earth, lmao)

The RGB color space composition of bronze is:
80.4% Red
49.8% Green
19.6% Blue

Whereas it's CYMK color space is:
0% Cyan
38% Magenta
75.6% Yellow
19.6% Black

Jesus and Moses, genealogically speaking are descendants of Shem straight on to Adam. Yahushua Ha Mashiasch aka Jesus Christ and Moshe aka Moses are Semitic in origin, hence means they were darkened olive skinned, bronze skinned, yellow skinned red skinned. The same applies to Noah.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 9:57am On May 16, 2020*

Goshen360:
I don pitch my tent for this thread, keenly following o....Hopefully I'll learn something new. It's interesting so far!

"To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits;
to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:"
- 1 Corinthians 12:10

Tbh and if truth be told brother, you actually are on the forefront of those, I sincerely hope will be grabbed, arrested and get convicted through the workings and help of the Holy Spirit about this misunderstood, misused and abused wonderful spiritual gift. It is one, out of the 9 possible different displayed evidences of having the Holy Spirit that could publicly be seen of anyone that's a believer (i.e. 1 Corinthians 12:7-11)

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 9:21am On May 16, 2020

Kobojunkie:
Trust and belief are similar words. But Faith is about your belief(trust) as I already explained.

The only thing you've so far explained is that you are way out there on your ego trip. You better turn back, while you are able to find your way back on safe grounds, lmao

Kobojunkie:
You did not answer the questions posed...

If you think I didnt answer the questions, then you must have read my answers with your blinkers on. Go do a refresher on the narrative using Matthew 14:22-32, lmao.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but it is not my belief at all that the "parable of the 10 talents" has anything to do with grace as you suggest it does. I don't believe you have it right considering Jesus never suggested his grace which comes to all men comes in differing portions to each.

"But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Our Savior, Yeshua The Messiah,
and of God The Father, to whom the glory is now and always, even to the days of eternity. Amen."
- 2 Peter 3:18

You must have your own special and personalised bible that has "parable of the 10 talents" in it, as the theme of that narrative . Wehdone sir, lmao.

Fyi, it was the man given 5 talents who increased it to 10 talents. Each person given talents doubled them. The one given 2 increased it to 4 talents, the one given 5, increased it 10 talents, but the one given 1 talents, as opposed to multiplying it to get 2 talents, instead opted not to double up the talent but rather choose to bury it.

We all have differing level of grace. I cant fly in the air like a bird gracefully, beautifully and effortlessly does, so I need to jump on an airplane, in order to experience that gift. Your belief dont matter to me, what you believe dont count. It is what the word says thats gold.

Go argue with 2 Peter 3:18a above, lmao, but just know that, we grow in grace, not untoward so to be sinning more. God forbid that, but that we however become strong in grace, untowards getting to higher heights for the glory of God. Alleluia. Amen.

Kobojunkie:
I thought you would have figured it out by now. Oh well, YOUR/OUR/THEIR righteousness is nothing but filthy rags; the only righteousness that will do is HIS and HIS alone.

You are as blind as a bat and as deaf as a doorstop

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 8:18am On May 16, 2020*

Kobojunkie:
Faith is about belief because as I already explained, Faith is a collection of work items which in turn is comprised of our trust or a combination of trust and obedience.

Do you want to deny that trust too, is not about belief and/or believing in something or someone, hmm?

Kobojunkie:
What the Bible does not say however is that Faith ONLY comes by hearing of the word of God

1/ Where did you read here or see anyone say that Faith ONLY comes by hearing of the word of God, if not just only you who have, hmm?
2/ Does the Bible make mention or not of no faith, lack of faith, little faith and such big faith?

Kobojunkie:
If I am to take any of what you have posted above seriously ...

Dont take anything of what I say seriously or on face value because I rather you do a serious Berean enough to take what the Bible says seriously.

Kobojunkie:
... then why did Jesus scold peter for doubting when peter started to sink?
Obviously, Jesus knew how much faith Peter had prior to his stepping in the water at Jesus' command. Jesus did not scold peter for not exercising faith he had prior to the trip or request to join him in the water? Following your understanding of faith, why did Jesus scold Peter at all?

You ask this Bible 101 elementary "... why did Jesus scold Peter at all ..." question because you dont know and you rely only on your head knowledge.

Peter upon stepping on the water and walking a few feet, shifted his gaze off Jesus, to have a look at the towering wave. It was a wrong thing to do, because the sight of the wave and its ferocity overwhelmed him, so no surprises, that he lost his faith, his trust in Jesus frittered away and the solid platform of the word he was standing on, that was making him defy the law of gravity, gave in. Of course, he was just about getting to be sinking and definitely drown, when our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, Yahushua Ha Mashsiach, aka Jesus Christ, immediately reached out His Hand to catch hold of Peter. Yahushua Ha Mashsiach, aka Jesus Christ, then afterwards, said to Peter "You of little faith, you have so little faith. Why did you doubt?" (i.e. Matthew 14:31, then go compare with Matthew 8:26 and Mark 4:40)

When you doubt something or someone. It means, you dont trust the thing or person, you havent faith in the thing or the person. It means, you've lost faith in that thing or in that person, lmao

Kobojunkie:
There is no such thing as different capacities and levels of grace.

"To one he gave five talents, and to another two, and to another one, each man according to his power, and he immediately went abroad."
- Matthew 25:15

You sure do take a great deal of pride and delight in publicly displaying your crass ignorance sha, I'll easily and freely give you that.

Listen saint, go brush off your truth plaque with Matthew 25:14:30 or Luke 19:12-28 truthpaste. Make sure you dont lose sight of Matthew 25:15, lmao though.

Knowing you for who you are, I wont be surprised to see you, return back here, wanting to insist that power isn't capacity and vice versa. Smh, vigorously sef.

Even baby believers, know that though, we all have equal access to the Holy Spirit, we receive it, in proportionate to our individual capacities, powers, abilities, capabilities etcetera, lmao

Kobojunkie:
Like I said, you are in the same boat my friends are in there... all filthy rags... nothing but filthy rags.

"I am overwhelmed with joy in the LORD my God! For he has dressed me with the clothing of salvation and draped me in a robe of righteousness. I am like a bridegroom dressed for his wedding or a bride with her jewels."
- Isaiah 61:10

I dont boast in my works, that is a complete no-no for me. I thank God that you dont define where I am. You dont define to me who I am. You dont define for me what sort of clothes I have on. Praise YAH. Alleluia.

I thank Abba God for the righteousness of God in Christ, that I have and the comforting words of Isaiah 61:10 seen shown above. The devil is a liar.

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 2:55am On May 16, 2020

Kobojunkie:
Trust is NOT Faith. Faith the way I have come to know it, is a collection(a bucket of sorts) of all our work(s), each work item comprise of out trust/our trust and obedience. What motivates me is my trust. How much faith I have, I am yet to know since I have no way of checking to see how much work items I have accrued in the time I have been serving Him, but my hope is that since Christ lives on the inside of me, then Christ's Faith will suffice.

Faith and trust are about believe. They both are about believing, as in meaning, believing in something or believing in someone. The Bible says, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God (i.e Romans 10:17) Peter was able to walk on water because he had faith from hearing the command of Jesus telling him to come. Its was his conscious trust of Jesus and the unconscious faith from Jesus merged in Peter that made him come out of the boat to step and start walking on water. No pain, no gain. Faith is exercised and that is how faith grows and/or increases.

Kobojunkie:
Like I said, if you have a problem with my knowledge of grace, I can't help you there.

As I've said, whats my own. We all have different capacities and levels of grace

Kobojunkie:
They don't just talk about it. They are some of the most selfless people I have ever met in all of my journey on this planet and they do not believe in God.

So, what you want me to do? Go fry beans, hmm? They dont believe in God, because that the beauty of free will, lmao

Kobojunkie:
So, your talks of love and compassion mean zilch to me. And like we are told, it is Filthy rags at the end of the day!

Whether talks of love and compassion mean zilch to you or not, is no skin off my nose. All I know for certain, is that love and compassion makes the world go round and makes it a better place to live

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 2:28am On May 16, 2020

hupernikao:
Bible study shouldnt be approached haphazard. We are looking at verse after verse. I am to discuss all the places where tongues was used in the bible for us to reach a conclusion. So, lets take it one step at a time. Isa 28:11 is the focus now.

Let's cut to the chase and even save ourselves chasing tail.

Listen hupernikao, we all, are no spring chicken here, not to know that, speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language) and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue. The issue OP's original post is about "I should speak in tongue, right?" as in meaning, should I speak in "lashon" (i.e. lashon, is the word for language/tongue in Hebrew/Aramaic) or should I speak in "glossa" (i.e. glossa, is the word for language/tongue in Greek)

Please borrow a leaf from your very own "focus" The focus is language/tongue and not stammmering

hupernikao:
Okay sir

Drop the sir. Who using "sir" epp. It is a distraction. Thank you.

hupernikao:
Can you discuss that same verse Isa 28:11 and show me the error.

There is nothing to discuss in Isaiah 28:11 because the verse is self explanatory. It is talking of two things which are stammering and language. Stammering is a function of language of course during talking. People dont stammer when singing. Your error is conflating stammerring with language/tongue. No, you dont do something like that

hupernikao:
There is no need to get emotional here

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Is this talk? Smh

hupernikao:
or speak with the language of "everybody" because non of us knows "everybody".

Would you have preferred I used "everyone" instead of "everybody" hmm?

None of youse knows "everybody" erhn? No problem, let me introduce you to "everybody" "Everyone" is a pronoun, and the word means every person. It means all the people in a group or posters, so far, on a thread like this (e.g. in this instance, it means Acehart, MuttleyLaff, Kobojunkie and hupernikao) If we are honest and sincere with each other, each one of us knows what tongue is. we each know that tongue, is uttered, able to be understood language and/or comprehensible dialect. Now if all that is correct, what is my sin with using "everybody"? Why are you taking exception to me using the harmless "everybody" pronoun?

hupernikao:
So, lets stick to bible interpretation. Step by step. What does Isa 28:11 mean. I have given you the usage and word meaning as used by the original writer, what is good to do is for you to bring our your explanation of the same verse to show my error.

Context is King. When you begin to read verse in isolation, you are reading the text under pretext. It is glaring and plain in sight to see, even without digging what Isaiah 28:11 is all about. This is retribution promised to be visited upon the tribe of Ephraim, following their incessant attack on the Southern kingdom of Judah. Judah was only able to stave off the attacking Assyrians and not be taking captives and/or exiled because they paid the Assyrians tribute.

hupernikao:
Note, I am not in a rush to discuss all of tongues. So, lets take it step by step so as not to create confusion. Firstly now, we are looking at Isa 28:11. So, keep focus on this sir.

There is none out of the four of us who doesnt know what language/tongue is, so where is confusion coming from, if not, its you trying to introduce confusion into what's already clear cut crystal clear.

Let's deal with, "I should speak in tongue, right?" as in meaning, should I speak in "lashon" (i.e. lashon, is the word for language/tongue in Hebrew/Aramaic) or should I speak in "glossa" (i.e. glossa, is the word for language/tongue in Greek). Areas to explore are:
1/ Why were and was different tongues spoken in the NT?
2/ How many biblically recorded times were there of speaking in tongues?
3/ Etcetera

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 1:11am On May 16, 2020

Kobojunkie:
I am motivated by a need to trust Him. If you don't like that, I don't know what to tell you.

Listen my friend, it has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with what I like or dont like, lmao. OK?

You say "I am motivated by a need to trust Him" however trust is faith. Everything will pass away, but its only faith (i.e. trust) hope and love, that will remain. The Bible saying, that the greatest of them three is love, speaks volume.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but I don't subscribe to your idea of grace. Like I said, grace is the sum total of the resources He has made available for me(from even before my conception) to aid me in finding my path back to him and accomplishing his plan in my life.
If you don't like it, I cannot help you. I won't eat pie to please you either.

His plan in your life is to save you from destruction. Your salvation is by grace through faith (i.e. trust). That grace, you didnt work for it. That grace you have isnt earned from anything you have done. You're not enjoying grace because of something you've deservedly done. You have grace out of the love of God, who says He will be compassionate to who He wants to be compassionate to, meaning He will have compassion on whom He will have compassion on.

Kobojunkie:
Really? Well, my friends talk a lot about love and compassion but they will also tell you they are as AntiChrist as can be.

I am sure your friends do talk a lot about love and compassion and that they tell you they are as AntiChrist as can be, but for all I care, they could be talking of fake love, philia, storge, pragma, eros, tough love, philautia and ludus type of love but not agape love.

Kobojunkie:
Spiritual illiteracy does that?

Yup! It does

Kobojunkie:
I beg to differ!

Not my circus, not my monkeys. To each his own monkeys

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus tell you that he was moved by love and Compassion?

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Cover your face in shame for asking me this

Kobojunkie:
Or are you just making that one up all on your own?

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"The End" ni opin cinema
"The End" means movie don pafuka

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 12:37am On May 16, 2020

hupernikao:
Kindly lets pay attention to the bible explanation sir.
I have examined the very first place we have tongues inferred (see below link). Kindly look at the verse and give your input considering the original writers view and usage of words. Then we can move to others.

I'll give you an offer that sounds too good to be true. Let's leap front into New Testament and sort all this out in there, lmao. Are you game? Should I bring it on?

hupernikao:
My earlier submission below. Let us do a verse by verse analysis of tongues explanation in the scriptures. We cant derive out conclusion outside this.

https://www.nairaland.com/5860057/should-speak-tongues-right#89591415

Kobojunkie, is 10000% correct that your "My earlier submission below" with the above link shown, is disjointed. Everybody knows what tongue is. Tongue, is uttered able to be understood language and/or comprehensible dialect

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 12:16am On May 16, 2020

Kobojunkie:
I said they spoke a lot too about how much better the world would be if people believed in love and compassion.

and in reponse to that remark, my comment was, it is intelligent of your atheist friends, to know this about love and compassion and that they seem to know the Bible more than you do, since you dont seem to realise the truth about love and compassion nor their relationship with pure and true religion that has no, ills or warts

Kobojunkie:
Sigh! I am motivated by my trust in Him.

Sigh. smh, three things you need to be motivated by in Him. They are hope, faith (i.e. trust, lmao) and love. Love's twin is compassion

Kobojunkie:
As for Understanding of Grace? Mine is that "Grace" is the sum total of the resources (time, opportunities, moments, people etc.) that he has made available to aid in guiding me back to him and through to the completion of His plan and will for my Life.

Another of one of your head knowledge thing, lmao, hmm? You can do better than what to you grace is, lmao.

Listen saint, grace, is unmerited favour, lmao. Let me ask you Kobojunkie, what did the birds do that they are able to gracefully fly in the air. What did fishes do that earned them the ability to swim beautifully in the seas, oceans or river, hmm?

You just have to eat the humble pie and admit that you have a narrow idea of what grace is

Kobojunkie:
I am glad you brought this up yourself. And according to the Bible, it is not just "their" righteousness, but all of our righteousness that is filthy rags before God; your idea of love and compassion included. So you understand now why I don't want to hear of your love and compassion here.

It is only the Anti Christ who would want to hear about love and compassion. It is only one of many antichrists out there, who cant stand the mention of love and compassion.

Kobojunkie:
"Spiritual Illiteracy" has nothing to do with your take on love and compassion.

It is "spiritual Illiteracy" that makes someone like you Kobojunkie knock love and compassion. It is out of love and compassion, that God came to earth. It is out love and compassion that Jesus got moved to perform a good number of His miracles such healing the sick, feeding the hungry, raising the dead etcetera. We serve a Compassionate God, who is Love.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between Being Spiritual And Being Religious? by MuttleyLaff: 11:27pm On May 15, 2020

Yungmil:
Hello guy no one knows everything so let's share and learn.
What is the differences?

Spiritual, is of above. Religious, is on below.

Spiritual is up. Religious is down.

Spiritual is heavenly. Religious is earthly.

Spiritual is divine. Religious is human.

Spiritual is immortal. Religious is mortal.

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 11:17pm On May 15, 2020*

Kobojunkie:
Motivated by grace and love?

So you have no idea that the reason for doing something like "consistent and conscientious regularity of showing empathy in words, thoughts, deeds and/or actions to others" is because of grace and love, erhn, lmao?

Kobojunkie:
What is your understanding of what grace is?

One word. Effortlessly, lmao

Kobojunkie:
Love?

Yup! Love, lmao

Kobojunkie:
Love? Love for him?

Not for Him alone and/or only, lmao, but obeying the royal law too actually on top, lmao

Kobojunkie:
My friends who are athiests love their fellow man too.

Where you say, your friends who are athiests, love their fellow man too, I doubt we are talking of agape love there, lmao.

Kobojunkie:
I mean these are some of the best human beings I have ever met in my entire life.

The best human beings bar believers are like menstrual rags before Him. All of their "righteous acts" are considered to be filthy rags before God, lmao

Kobojunkie:
Even many of those who claim to be Christians do not come close, as far as loving their fellow man is concerned.

Tell me something I dont already know. Tell me something new

Kobojunkie:
Should I conclude that my friends who happen to be athiests are NT believers as well?

I never introduced atheists into the discourse, you did, lmao.

Kobojunkie:
Are you high?

Focus on the ball. Kick the ball about, not my foot. Leave my foot alone. Except you want to know my dealer or have some of what I am high on, please dont ask me such nosey parker question again. OK?

Kobojunkie:
I don't have blinkers.

It is glaring that you do have blinkers on

Kobojunkie:
I never said anything about my atheist friends' intelligence.

I am aware you didnt, and if you're going to be honest and sincere, you'll admit that, even I didn't either, say anything about your atheist friends' intelligence. All I said about intelligence was that the Bible teaches that love is worth more than intelligence. I didnt make that up, it is bible, you can take the comment to the bank.

Kobojunkie:
I said they spoke a lot too about how much better the world would be if people believed in love and compassion.

Kobojunkie:
A sister?

I thought you were a sister in another life. Replace that with mister or X

Kobojunkie:
in distress? If you have nothing else to say it is ok to stop at this point.

I have quite a lot to say actually, the ball however is in your court, lmao

Kobojunkie:
I am not talking of love and compassion.

Unfortunately, they both make the world go round. They both make the world a better place to live it. I actually rather, you verb love and compassion than talk, lmao

Kobojunkie:
You have avoided responding to the original question I asked up to this moment. Running around on this is not getting us anywhere fast.

What was your question. I never deliberately shy from, dodge, ignore or duck questions. I must have missed it. The worst is I'll say, I dont know or I dont want to dignify an answer, so please re-fire the question. Whats the question of the day? Oya hit me, lmao

Kobojunkie:
I would rather go back to discussing the main topic than engaging in this journey to nowhere.

The the main topic is joined at the hip with love and compassion. Love and compassion, are the parents of pure and true religion, that is without fault. It doesnt get any simpler than that, lmao.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Should Speak In Tongues, Right? by MuttleyLaff: 10:34pm On May 15, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
It is only some, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somebody, looking for lesser praying effort, that believes that speaking in tongues, especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language. This is shameless lazy and cutting corners manoeuvres praying things.

There is every legitimate reason to type that this is fake because the way this speaking in tongues is being done today, just as with other church folks and 21st century believers, is uttering unintelligible words that is babble and confused noise made by a number of different and varying voice pitches. This is not speaking in tongues (i.e. not speaking in a foreign language) but is mere babbling by unintelligible utterraces

It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs. And how do frogs catch their prey? Yes, by using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception

To speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way

Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language) and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue.

Importantly also, there is nothing like speaking in angelic or angel's tongue or heavenly language. It is from nonsense like this that the heresy about angels impregnating human beings come about and people believe the trash

Thank you my dear very good brother for this undiluted truthful words. We all, have spoken this feigned glossa, sometimes referred to as "ecstatic utterances", that is confused with, the real glossa, which is the biblical "gift of tongues".

The real glossa and this man-made and fake other glossa, are like chalk and cheese, they are completely different from each other.

Not many, including you Truthin/Action, know that, speaking in tongues, actually, in a way that suggests or resembles a miracle, is speaking in another ACTUAL HUMAN languages, that one couldn't speak before.

Also most importantly, are you aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues? He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter, but this advice and guideline, is religiously, regularly and openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions like as seen in this instance

My brother, if you are 110% sure of what you know and are saying with this, then please put forward the bible verse you are quoting from for this and lets together carefully and thoroughly review it

"¹³Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.
¹⁴For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
¹⁵What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
¹⁶Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
¹⁷For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up."
- 1 Corinthians 14:13–17

"So then, tongues are for a sign, not to those believing, but to the unbelieving;
but prophecy is not to the unbelieving, but to the believing."
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

Lets get this straight.
I hope you're not saying that from your understanding, praying in the Holy Ghost equates to praying or speaking in tongues, hmm?
Or contrary to what 1 Corinthians 14:22 says, you're saying that it is OK to speak to yourself in a tongue you dont understand, so far its done in private?

OK let's make this easier to think about:
Can you hear your thoughts inside your head?
Neither can the devil hear your thoughts in your head or what you say in your mind
So isnt it clear now that, we give the devil unnecessary credit, thinking we are circumventing and finding a way around the devil to God, hmm?

Just foolery and shenanigans of the highest order abound.

cc: Acehart, Kobojunkie, hupernikao,

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 10:09pm On May 15, 2020

Kobojunkie:
I am telling the truth. As soon as I read what you typed there, I recalled those were some of the exact words of some of my friends, who don't even believe there is a God.

Unlike in the Old Testament, the New Testament everything you do in NT, is motivated by grace and love, lmao.

The law of gravity upon setting eyes of the law of aerodynamics, lmao fell in love. You wouldnt understand this one, lmao.

Kobojunkie:
I don't see the point in this exercise.

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Remove your blinkers you'll see, lmao.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, I see where you are trying to go with this. Well, like I said earlier, my atheists friends also claim that love is the greatest ...

The Bible teaches that love is worth more than intelligence. Your intelligent atheist friends seem to know Bible more than you do, lmao. So Kobojunkie, is love, contrary to what the bible says, not the greatest then, hmm?

Kobojunkie:
... But I fail to see the importance of that to any of the main here.

I am aware you are disinterested in the love of truth, but I am more than happy to help a sister in distress, lmao. We were talking of "love and compassion are the parents of true and pure religion" lmao.

Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Illiteracy by MuttleyLaff: 9:39pm On May 15, 2020

Kobojunkie:
Love and compassion are the parents of true and pure religion? LOL...

You remind me of what some friends of mine, who happen to be atheists, say.

Is this all you have to say to each and all three points I advanced in that post, hmm? Smh.

You just increasingly letting me know that you have no idea. All you have is from the head and not the soul and/or heart, lmao

OK, let's do it this way, lmao
1/ List the the three things that are eternal, as in meaning, will exist forever, lmao?
2/ Now what is the greatest out of the three things listed in #1 above, lmao?

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