Travel › Re: Lagos: Conductor vs Passenger Wahala by MuttleyLaff: 3:42pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Ishilove: I think the craziest thing I've ever done while rushing bus years back was using my sizeable bosoms to shove men out of the way and when I settled on the seat, I laughed maniacally. I am not exaggerating. When I got home later that day and had a chance to ruminate, I was genuinely baffled at my actions.
Lagos does that to you  uboma: Not fair at all..... More than fair. Whatever is at your disposal, use. If you have it, flaunt it, use it. All is fair, in love and war. That was a war zone situation she described there and her mission was accomplished. Job done enough to get her home on time and/or schedule |
Travel › Re: Lagos: Conductor vs Passenger Wahala by MuttleyLaff: 3:38pm On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 4:08pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Ishilove: Men and breast  Mind is not breast, mine nah bacca. I fit die for woman bacca. I confess, I love woman bacca. Bacca fit shack me die. I remember when I was courting my missus, she was walking on ahead of me, then suddenly she turned round only to catch me admiring her bacca while I walked following her behind. I felt like the kid caught with his hand still in the cookie jar and cookie crumbs smeared on all over the mouth, lmso |
Travel › Re: Lagos: Conductor vs Passenger Wahala by MuttleyLaff: 3:30pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Grow My Spiritual Life? by MuttleyLaff: 3:25pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
HRHQueenPhil: what u just said cld have already been taught u by the Holy Spirit. Congratulations... You didnt have to say in twice nah. Anyway, giving credit to whom credit and congratulations are due, there's no better Teacher than the Holy Spirit. |
Travel › Re: Lagos: Conductor vs Passenger Wahala by MuttleyLaff: 3:19pm On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 6:59pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Ishilove: I think the craziest thing I've ever done while rushing bus years back was using my sizeable bosoms to shove men out of the way and when I settled on the seat, I laughed maniacally. I am not exaggerating. When I got home later that day and had a chance to ruminate, I was genuinely baffled at my actions.
Lagos does that to you  Magnoliaa: Lmfaooo.  gif here before, deleted upon request Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD), lmso. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Grow My Spiritual Life? by MuttleyLaff: 11:36am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Nicoswit: Study your bible Pray [s]Ask God for the gift of tongues, then pray in tongues[/s] 1/ What if asking God for the gift of tongues is not granted? 2/ In what other language should he pray in tongues with? 3/ What is wrong with praying in the language he already speaks and/or prays in? |
Celebrities › Re: Does These Men Know Bobrisky Is A Man (video) by MuttleyLaff: 11:25am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 2:22pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
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Celebrities › Re: Interior Designer, Ehi Ogbebor Shows Off Her New Man, MC Oluomo, On Instagram by MuttleyLaff: 11:17am On Jan 17, 2021 |
osemoses1234: After Money my brother nah still money oooo [img] https://media./images/baf9f44d698f2aff876dff37dafed35b/tenor.gif[/img] Money don’t give a fúck what you've been doing. Money don’t discriminate, doesnt care how you come after it, whether a person comes from a good family, or what his/her tribe or skin color is. Anybody can have money because money is a prostitute, not loyal and has no shame, lmso |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Intersex Makes God Confused Or Does It Justify Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 10:37am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Fvckyouall: I don't know why God does what he does or if he just does it for fun or cause he can. But intersex is beautiful, I believe in loving people regardless of gender or whatever form they take and if that makes me wierd then I rather stay wierd [img] https://s2/images/200ad27a229ae546eed.gif[/img] God bless you. You defo have a good heart, so please guard it mehn. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Hate Lies? by MuttleyLaff: 10:31am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Myer: After eating did they still die? After eating they began to die, just as God did say will happen if/when they chose to eat of the fruit off the TKGE Myer: Communication especially report is like that. Can't blame Adam from r the touch. No one said Adam was at blame for embellishing God's word nor has anyone wanted to have Adam held liable for telling that lie Myer: But how can you explain that they did not die even though God said they'd die? Their mortality clock sprang to life the minute they took a bite of the fruit, then started tick tock, tick tock counting and winding down, until 960 years later that Adam finally gave up the ghost and physically died. Death, in the simplest form is separation from God. God is a Spirit, and we require spiritual connection, using our spiritual antenna, to connect to the spiritual mast that transmits signals from God. The first thing that died on A&E were their spiritual antenna, causing them to lost lose signal and of course, connection with the spiritual mast that transmits signals from God. They realised immediately they have been separated from God (i.e. lost connection) .... I'll pause at this point because we'll be going into information overload terrain, lmso Myer: And pl don't say it was a spiritual death. The body bible never mentioned such. MuttleyLaff: "16And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die." - Genesis 2:16-17
@petra/1, @living/christ and particularly @EFULEFU/1
You should be familiar of this ''You surely will not die!'' ''grain/straw and stick'' or '''chicken/fish and bone'' Genesis 3:4 message to Eve: Is the Genesis 3:4 message, an absolute truth or a pseudo truth statement?
Since after the fall from grace to grass, and from that moment on, we are born, our mortality (i.e. the state of being subject to death) clock, starts to tick down.
The Hebrew words "muth, muth", used in Genesis 2:17 above, often as equally seen above, is usually translated as "surely die" or literally, as "you will certainly die" when actually, in a Hebraic manner of speaking, it correctly, indicates the sense and understanding of beginning of dying.
"Muth, muth," in fact, conveys a meaning of and gives, an awareness of entered death (i.e. have a sense of gradual or slow death starting), hence why and how, it is, we die by the second, we are in fact, slowly dying. It will interest you to know that, one million cells in your body, die every second. That means in one day, approximately 1.2 kg of cells in your body dies. We surely are dying, unlike not surely die, as what the serpent would want Eve to believe
@EFULEFU/1, where lies the serpent's deception in Genesis 3:4-5 &/or 22, is that, the serpent failed to admit that, eating of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, points in the direction of death, (i.e. to die) as that is what "surely die" means.
To die, (i.e. "muth, muth'') is the result, for eating, off the TKGE and so, slowly but surely, Adam and Eve did approach death, unlike the lie fashioned by the crafty serpent and sold to Eve.
@petra/1 & @living/christ, God wasn't explicit, about the kind of death, He was talking off, so petra/1 now saying "God was talking about spiritual death" is sheer outright eisegesis with bells on.
Spiritual death, is instantaneous. It occurs immediately, whereas, physical death, though the process has started, it is delayed. It is slow, its dragged out and often is over a long time period, lmso.
Physical death, often continues on, over a long time before eventually one finally once and for all, drops dead or sleep and die, lmso. Adam lived to be 930 years old, before the grim reaper finally caught up and came knocking on his door My response to " ... pl don't say it was a spiritual death. The body bible never mentioned such" is contained in the immediate above quote of mine brought here from another thread, lmso |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Intersex Makes God Confused Or Does It Justify Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 10:24am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 10:43am On Jan 17, 2021 |
kkins25:
How could you stoop this low sir! There is no significance whatsoever between the verse you quoted and the OP. Haba!! [img] https://i./IHta.gif[/img] Smh sigh. You dont understand what OP is communicating Now, mister-dont-know-about-epigenetics, why don't you tell, what was the reason, give in one word, lmso, primarily what God gave for Eve needed to be created for Adam? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Hate Lies? by MuttleyLaff: 9:13am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Myer: Which lie did Adam tell Eve? Gen 2:17 it was God who said they'd die from eating the fruit. "16And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.” " - Genesis 2:16-17[img] https://i./IHta.gif[/img] Did God's words, have anything about " touch it and die" in the Genesis 2:17 you referenced, hmm? |
Celebrities › Re: Omoni Oboli Tribute To Mother-In-Law (Pix) by MuttleyLaff: 9:10am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Realtord43: Most married women are not alway in good term with their mother inlaw.
she might have a sigh of relieved now but still pretend to be sad on her demise. fear women! Chief you're rough and harsh ooo, lmso. Hmm you try sha, but sha we all love our women die, lmso. Adam set the precedent for us, lmso |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Grow My Spiritual Life? by MuttleyLaff: 9:06am On Jan 17, 2021 |
CodeTemplar: Feed regularly. Ordinarily feeding regularly and without guidance is in vain and wasted effort. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Grow My Spiritual Life? by MuttleyLaff: 9:00am On Jan 17, 2021 |
macnino399: Good day everyone Please I need a guide on how to grow spiritually besides just going to church. Thanks. " But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things and will bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you" - John 14:26" But when He the, Spirit of truth, shall come, He will guide you into all the truth. For He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He may hear, He will speak. And He will declare to you the things coming" - John 16:13Knowledge is obtained from learning something new every day, while wisdom is letting go of something every day First of all, what if I tell you, do not just slay your demons, but dissect them also to find what they've been feeding on. Personally how I've grown and grow spiritually besides just going to organised church, is from learning not only from books but from doing those dissections I mentioned, not only from tenets but most importantly from my Teacher, the Spirit of Truth |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Hate Lies? by MuttleyLaff: 8:35am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 8:51am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Omooba77: Why does God Hate Lies according to Proverb 6:17? " 43Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies. 45But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me!" - John 8:44One of the reasons is because the father of lies is the devil Myer: God only hates lies against him. These are instances where God himself promoted lies according tothe Bible;
1. When God told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate of the fruit. 2. When Abraham lied that Sarah was his sister and not his wife. 3. When Moses told pharaoh he only wanted his people to worship him for few days when his plan was to liberate them. 4. When God hmself sent a lying spirit to deceive the king. 5. When Rahab lied to hide the spies from Israel.
Just to mention a few. Of course bible references will be provided upon demand. " 1Now the serpenta was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’ ” 2The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’ ” 4“You will not surely die,” the serpent told her. 5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”" - Genesis 3:1-5The first lie in the Bible isnt the lie the serpent told Eve, at Genesis 3:4-5, but actually was the lie Adam told his wife, Eve for her to repeat at Genesis 3:3. Now though this was a blatant lie but it wasn't held against Adam because there wasn't a malicious intent behind the lie, same as there weren't any behind when Abraham lied that Sarah was his sister and not his wife, when Moses told Pharaoh he only wanted his people to worship him for few days when his plan was to liberate them, when God Himself allowed a willing lying spirit to deceive the king or when Rahab lied to hide the spies from Israel, unlike the evil intentioned lie the serpent told Eve Nobi today, yansh don dey for fowl back. From the very beginning, humankind has been adding to and twisting God's word(s) and it continues to this day, even on this thread, lmso |
Politics › Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by MuttleyLaff: 6:19am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Ctorch: Lagos belongs to Benin - Obanikoro's grandson declares, reveals why its monarchs never wore crowns.
The grandson of the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos has spoken on the issue surrounding the ownership of the state
- Engineer Layiwola Ajayi-Bembe said Lagos truly belongs to the people of Benin
- According to the octogenarian, it was agreed at a meeting in 1903 that Obas in Lagos should not wear crowns.
An octogenarian and grandson of the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos, Engineer Layiwola Ajayi-Bembe, has given a deeper insight into the history of Lagos and its relationship with Benin.
Layiwola also said that Obas in Lagos were historically referred to as 'Elekos' and did not wear crowns.
Speaking with Legit.ng's correspondent, Adeoye Adewunmi, in an exclusive telephone interview, Layiwola, who is the chairman of County and City Bricks, disabused the minds of people who believe that Lagos is 'no man’s land'.
Ajayi-Bembe explained that the decision of the Obas in Lagos not to wear crowns was resolved at a royal meeting held in 1903.
He further explained that Lagos belongs to the Bini (Benin) and not the Yorubas as it is misconstrued, adding that there are still relics of Benin all over Isale Eko.
The chairman, whose mother was the first child of Gbajabiamila (of Olowogbowo fame), identified Idumota, Iduntafa, Idunmagbo and Idunganran as Bini names.
He said:
“Obas (in Lagos) - we don’t call them ‘obas’, we call them ‘eleko’ and they don’t wear crown.
“My grandfather was at a royal meeting in 1903 when there was a dispute of which traditional rulers should wear crowns.
“Ooni of Ife had to come all the way from Ife to Lagos upon the invitation of Governor (John Hawley) Glover. “And the question they asked him (Ooni) was: ‘Who are the Obas that should wear crowns?’ He mentioned them – Lagos was not part of the list. We don’t wear crowns in Lagos. “Lagos is Bini, not only because we came from Benin. There are signs and relics of Benin all over Isale Eko.
Enuowa is in Lagos; Idumota is a Bini name; Iduntafa is Bini name; Idunmagbo is Bini name; Iduganran is Bini name; tell me, what further proof do you want (that the Bini own Lagos)?”
https://www.legit.ng/1398022-lagos-belongs-benin-obanikoros-grandson-declares-reveals-monarchs-wore-crowns.html?fbclid=IwAR1BoQNVPVSmdYJQLkM0FEGTM79amLvBRU65gkyRX0pLtStG6RymygjZRHU MelesZenawi: Enuowa is in Lagos; Idumota is a Bini name; Iduntafa is Bini name; Idunmagbo is Bini name; Iduganran is Bini name; tell me, what further proof do you want (that the Bini own Lagos)?”
Now this is fact. Bini should learn to present facts like this when arguing.
No doubt Yorubas and binis have so much historically.
History of one is not complete without the mention of the other and vice versa
MuttleyLaff: Wrong because Eko means "war camp"
Wrong
Wrong
Fyi, Lagos, which is different from the original Portuguese Lagos, was given that name while under Portuguese influence.
Lagos, originally a fishing village, was founded by the Awori, in the 13th century and was called Eko, it was co-inhabited by the Awori and Bini.
The original Edo or Bini, the Beninese people, of the Empire of Benin/Benin Kingdom, conquered and resettled there, after taking over the place from the Awori.
It actually, is the military nature of the original settlement, that gave Lagos, its original name "Eko", which in the Bini dialect, means "war camp"
Initial contact with Benin Empire and neighboring states were made in the 1400’s, by Portuguese explorers, who described the Lagos lagoon inlet, lake and island with their maps making notes of the existence of the Lagos lagoon lake. However, the name Lagos, was given it, by the Portuguese explorer Rui de Sequeira, when he visited the area in 1472, naming the area around the city, Lago de Curamo, or Lake of Healing, but Lagos actually means "Lakes or Lagoon" in Portuguese.
Former names were, Oko to Eko, from Curamo to Onim, and from Onim to Lagos. Dutch maps depict "Ichoo" obviously Eko, as an important trading town connected by way of Lagoons to Benin and to the Niger. Obanikoro's grandson is talking half truth, if not quarter truth and yarning sawdust  Awori was not founded by the Binis, but was by Olofin aka Ogunfunminire and his followers after leaving the palace of Oduduwa (i.e. alleged founder of the Yoruba) in Ile-Ife and migrated southward along a river. The story claims that Oduduwa had given Olofin a mud plate and instructed him to place it on the water and follow it until it sank into the river. The plate travelled along the river until at reaching Idumota in central Lagos, it whirled around in the water and sank to the bottom. Now Olofin upon returned to part of his group, he previously left at Iddo, twhen they asked him where the plate was, answered back " Awo Ti Ri" loosely translated, meaning " The plate has sunk or gone down". This is how the name Awori is said to have come into being, long before the Binis invaded, conquered and resettled there. cc: NextD18, NaijaRoyalty, festacman, Derrylatei, reyscrub, Christistruth00, jneutron4000, |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Assembly Of The Saints? by MuttleyLaff: 5:22am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 5:49am On Jan 17, 2021 |
EFULEFU1: What does it mean that we shouldn't forsake the Assembly of the Saints? Who are the saints Where can I find them? Thank u " Praise the LORD! Sing to the LORD a new song, And His praise in the assembly of saints (i.e. ... in the assembly of the godly!)" - Psalm 149:1We shouldn't forsake the Assembly of the Saints, means, do not abandon gathered faithful people or leave gathered godly people EFULEFU1: Who are the saints Saints are children/sons/daughters/brethren/sisters/men of God/women of God EFULEFU1: ... Where can I find them? Thank u You'll find saints upandan various forums on this Nairaland platform. You'll find them, as you go about hustling and bustling. They are in your neighbourhood, your estate, your street, workplace, the market et cetera. They are not difficult to find or hard to know because by their fruits, is how you know them |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Intersex Makes God Confused Or Does It Justify Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 4:57am On Jan 17, 2021 |
orunto27: GOD IS GO ON DOING. GOD IS NEVER CONFUSED. GOD IS PERMISSIVE FREEDOM.
LISTEN TO YOUR HEART FOR IT'S ETHICS. THE MIND IS FULL OF INSATIABLE EMOTIONS. WHEN THE HEART TELLS YOU TO STOP, IT'S THE SUPREME SPIRIT TALKING TO YOU. The heart tell you to stop doing exactly what? What precisely is the spirit talking about? |
Christianity Etc › Re: House On The Rock Projects Image Of An Owl (Moloch) During Communion by MuttleyLaff: 4:50am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 8:22am On Jan 17, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: House On The Rock Projects Image Of An Owl (Moloch) During Communion by MuttleyLaff: 4:35am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Coveting FP and desperately looking for it, you don start again with all this your witch hunt erhn? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Intersex Makes God Confused Or Does It Justify Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 4:08am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 4:34am On Jan 17, 2021 |
tobechi74: Wikipedia definition of intersex
Intersex people are individuals born with any of several variations in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones or genitals that, according to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit the typical definitions for male or female bodies".[1][2] Though the range of atypical sex characteristics may be obvious from birth through the presence of physically ambiguous Instruments, in other instances, these atypical characteristics may go unnoticed, presenting as ambiguous internal reproductive organs or atypical chromosomes that may remain unknown to an individual all of their life.[3]
Here is a link that was shared by a nairalander She is such a beauty to behold. Too bad bullies in school couldn't see her feminine beauty back then. Her name is Emmanuella David ette, she was raised up as a boy, back then she was a very feminine boy and was bullied seriously in the university she attended until her feminine features started surfacing revealing her true feminine beauty.. She ran tests on herself to find out she has two ovaries inside of her even though she has only male organ. She is currently is the voice of many intersex people in Nigeria as she tries to create awareness on this issues to avoid others like her to pass through all she went through in her college years .. She lives as a woman today and an extremely beautiful one . She is the goddess of water. Why do you think my pics are not so clear and i cover my face? I'm not yet out officially like this people. Taking my time until i come out officialy then you will see high definition pics of me.
so far keep learning. Many of them do come out after perfecting themselves to avoid bullying from ignorant Nigerian public but you see how strong i am, still imperfect but still here in this phobic country educating and lecturing you all and some have the guts to abuse me for my courage .
Well intersex is beautiful
Imagine one believe to be a guy, spends years chasing girls, only to do a test and discover that he is a girl . Will he automatically begin to like the opposite gender or will she continue to like girls(Homosexuality) What will make God create a person with Ovum and Penis. Is he playing a game or do He want to teach us to embrace Homosexuality, bisexual etc [img] https://media1./images/0231ce01bd7fce51b82d143924cb3cfd/tenor.gif[/img] " ... A 46-year-old pregnant woman had visited his clinic at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia to hear the results of an amniocentesis test to screen her baby’s chromosomes for abnormalities. The baby was fine — but follow-up tests had revealed something astonishing about the mother. Her body was built of cells from two individuals, probably from twin embryos that had merged in her own mother’s womb. And there was more. One set of cells carried two X chromosomes, the complement that typically makes a person female; the other had an X and a Y. Halfway through her fifth decade and pregnant with her third child, the woman learned for the first time that a large part of her body was chromosomally male1. “That’s kind of science-fiction material for someone who just came in for an amniocentesis,” says James.
Sex can be much more complicated than it at first seems. According to the simple scenario, the presence or absence of a Y chromosome is what counts: with it, you are male, and without it, you are female. But doctors have long known that some people straddle the boundary — their sex chromosomes say one thing, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) or sexual anatomy say another. Parents of children with these kinds of con- ditions — known as intersex conditions, or differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs) — often face difficult decisions about whether to bring up their child as a boy or a girl. Some researchers now say that as many as 1 person in 100 has some form of DSD2" https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943Claire Ainsworth, discusses the spectrum between male and female, listen to it, from the audio clip inside the above excerpt's URL link
Its a bad learning for some of us to unlearn and relearn that in the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, we will be like the angels in heaven, with neither male or female, lmso (i.e. Matthew 22:30, Mark 12:25 and Galatians 3:28), lmso God, is teaching about companionship slash relationship with love (i.e. Genesis 2:18's , it is not good for the man to be alone) and to embrace your sexuality or sexual orientation. He ordained sex for a purpose, and that purpose will soon expires, so when the sex purposes expires, what happens next, lmso? What remains, lmso? Of course, its relationship and love, lmso |
Celebrities › Re: African Princess James Brown Breaks Down In Tear As He Apologizes To Boborisky by MuttleyLaff: 2:52am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 3:11am On Jan 17, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Very Serious Warning For What's Coming Ahead! by MuttleyLaff: 1:17am On Jan 17, 2021*. Modified: 2:43am On Jan 17, 2021 |
donnie: [s]Youtube deleted this video as it was taking off and going viral. WATCH: h ttps://www.bitchute.com/video/dGWTMLtnGaQw/
Hey pro-vaccine negroes... very soon your brains will be connected directly to a PC for regular updates. Now how about that? ...amazing right?
And guess what? You cant sue vaccine makers for any side effects or damage done to your body. They are shielded from liability, protected by law.[/s] https://i1.wp.com/www.kth.se/blogs/studentblog/files/2018/07/dont-let-the-bedbugs-bite-comic.jpg?fit=600%2C315&ssl=1nwaanambra1: [s]Men! we are in deep shit!
they came with SARS - we escaped it then they came with ebola - it killed lots of us but we still escaped it.
Now they have came with a fake virus just to get us vaccinated with computer chips so thy can be able to kill us at will by simply touching a key on a computer - will we escape this one?? i doubt.
EUGENICS - go google it.[/s] donnie:
Insight " Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse, will not land on its intended victim" - Proverbs 26:2 Insight kor, Dimsight ni. Pesky alarmist, always causing needless worry  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Do We Go When We Die? by MuttleyLaff: 12:47am On Jan 17, 2021 |
Nazgul: Thanks for this. But the story of the rich man and Lazarus was a parable Jesus told. It didn't actually happen, just like the story of the prodigal son and the story of the good Samaritan.
I'm not trying to argue with your submission cos it really enlightened me, all I'm saying is who were the dead the Bible was saying will rise up?
And why will they be another judgement if the dead are already in Hades and the good in the third heavens like you pointed out.
Thanks for your contribution once again. MuttleyLaff: Hell or better put, Hades, actually is a Greek concept, the Jews have no concept of Hell or Hades they have sheol, alright but the concept of Hell or Hades, is a Greek one.
Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned''
So Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave or has been referred as grave
Grave/tomb/sepulchre sites are merely places of deposit for a corpse. Sheol is the realm of the dead or departed souls - Souls do not linger in the air. Souls do not stay in limbo. Souls do not hang about. Souls do not make revisits
Until Yahshua Ha Mashiah's aka Jesus Christ', our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, clarity in the New Testament, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead
Nazgul, we have verses in Old Testament (e.g. Psalm 9:17 et cetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, in the New Testament, who brought things into a better perspective for us, when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol, with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side. Now, remember Nazgul, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man.
Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent really understood. The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades
Reiterating, hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin. Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.
Talking about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Jesus to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)
As earlier mentioned, Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem. Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with hell, which is from a German word root. It was bible translators who were substituting the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made hell stick with us today
Death is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire The reality of the parable is informing us that, the good and bad, after the spirit, leaves their bodies (i.e. after drawing one's last breath) automatically are transported and stationed at a terminus of life on this side of eternity, to await facing divine and final judgment, with books opened, before God, sitting on the Great White Throne (i.e. Revelation 20:11–15) Nazgul, everyday is judgement day. Always has been, always will be. Judgement, fyi, even begins at the house of God (i.e. 1 Peter 4:17) and even Hebrew 9:27, only says, after death, comes judgement, but it doesn't clearly define or identify which judgement, its talking off Anyway, the main and important thing you really need to grab and take hold off, is that, decision will be made about where each one deserves to spend eternity. Remember that, accuses, are first held in custody, prior to being brought to court, to face the judge, have their day in court, then for justice and judgment, to be served, whether to set them free, absolved of any crimes or be taken into custody, from not being absolved of guilt. Now, Sheol is a holding place too, and that the holding place Sheol and Death will be casted into the Lake of Fire, when sin will be no more. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Do We Go When We Die? by MuttleyLaff: 5:42pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MrPresident1: Nazgul, When a spirit departs from a body, it goes to God who gave it in the first place Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. [img] https://media./images/baf9f44d698f2aff876dff37dafed35b/tenor.gif[/img]
Nazgul: This means that both good and bad people die, their spirit returns back to God, while the body returns back to the earth right? MrPresident1: Yes. then the reincarnate to pay for or enjoy the benefits of the deeds of past life.
There is no place in the skies where God incinerates people. Under the sun the place of judgment... Ecclesiastes 3:16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there @ Nazgul Absolutely, the spirit aka breath of God returns back to God. It's the soul that will face judgement and not the spirit
MuttleyLaff: What Makes Man? Or better still what is man? Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul, so Man is made up of Body, Soul (i.e. uses the heart as an outlet) and Spirit. The Soul has the body and spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up in a human being body suit
The spirit and soul have different faculties, and so the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, whilst the faculties of the Soul comprises of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions and the Body has 5 faculties of senses, which are, to see, via the eyes, hear, via the ears, feel, via applicable part of the body, smell, via the nose and taste, via the mouth.
Some people have lost that ability to know bad from good. It's similar to losing sense of taste, smell, sight, hearing, feeling pain or not et cetera
MuttleyLaff: "Guard your heart above all else, for it determines the course of your life (i.e. for everything you do flows from the heart)" - Proverbs 4:23
"The good man brings good things out of the good treasure of his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil treasure of his heart. For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks" - Luke 6:45
shadeyinka, I am 110% sure you'll agree and accept that, it is the Soul that is saved even Ezekiel 18:20 emphatically states that: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die.", it doesnt say its the Body or the Spirit. Now, the heart is used by the Soul but the heart definitely is not the Spirit
Let me slip this bit in, first, as a preamble. Proverbs 4:23 and Luke 6:45 above, informs us that, it's out of the abundance of the heart first, then processed in the brain or mind, before the mouth speaks. All evil intents comes forth out of the heart, as in, the heart housed in the human Body. Mark 7:21-22, paints a picture of the heart with the following: "For from within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness" and Jeremiah 17:9 doesnt paint the heart in good light either, as it says: "The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?"
Incidentally, the verse, Psalms 51:10, informatively tells us, that the heart is linked with the mind, which is part of the Soul. The same Soul or psyche uses the heart as an outlet, to pass out or pass in things, from the Body and/or Spirit via the heart in the Soul. I'll soon below explain how it does this and/or how this works
What is man? "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." - Genesis 2:7
"For the Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life." - Job 33:4
Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul (i.e. a psyche). In fact, Man is made up of Body, Soul and Spirit. As a matter of fact, the Soul or psyche, has the Body and Spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a Soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up, in a human being body suit.
Genesis 2:7 and Job 33:4 above, informs us, its "ruach" the Spirit from God and "neshamah" that keeps the human body animated.
Now Nazgul, please dont try to mix up "ruach" and "neshamah" with ordinary and/or commonplace spirits, as in meaning, dont try to mix up the Spirit of God and the breath or wind of God, with extraterrestrial beings, which is what evil and good spirits are.
Fyi, "ruach", in Hebrew, with its corresponding Greek word "pneuma" essentially and in an almost oversimplified way means force. It is breath, wind, spirit of God, all rolled in as one thing. It in a sense, is the invisible force or power of God, hence why being perceived as a Spirit, so yes, "ruach" is the Spirit of God. In fact you wont wrong in saying that "ruach" or "Ha Ruach Ha Kodesh" is the Holy Spirit, as in, the Spirit of God.
You can see both "ruach" and "neshamah" being interplayed in the creation of man from Genesis 2:7 reproduced above, and as a witness plus as a supporting verse, Job 33:4 you see reproduced above, confirms, by testifying, that, its "ruach" that made man and it is "neshamah" that gives man life
"Neshamah", incidentally, is actually derived from another Hebrew word called "nasham" that means to pant and/or blow away with air, now, when the spirit, as in, meaning, "neshamah", the breath, returns back to God, the Body slumps and the Soul goes into comatose. This looks and feels, similar to a TV animated cartoon changed and turned into a cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper. TV animated cartoon characters moves, but cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper dont move like animated cartoon characters watched on TV screens. For the life of the body is in the blood and the life of the soul is in the spirit. When the spirit leaves the body, it returns back to God, leaving the body inanimate, meaning leaves it motionless and lifeless, as in, without life or no more with life. Ecclesiastes 12:7
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." - Ecclesiastes 12:7
Now, moving further on, the Spirit and Soul have different faculties, where the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, while the faculties of the Soul are made up of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions. The Body is not left out, it has 5 faculties of senses, and these are, sight, as in to see via the eyes, hearing, as in hear via the ears, touch, as in, feel via applicable part of the body, smell, as in, perceive via the nose and last but not the least, taste, as in, sense with the mouth.
The Body is worldly conscious and relates to the environment and its surroundings, the Soul is self conscious and relates to self & other people and the Spirit is God conscious and relates to God. After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life
Now, remember Nazgul, that the question was: "What is Man" Well, my intro response is, the Soul, biblically speaking, is the most important existence of Man and that is why the battle is and always has been about and over the Soul. All attacks, are ultimately targeted at and for the Soul. Now, getting started proper, the Soul is the first medium key component of Man created by God and Man is tickled and accessed through this same Soul, by way of the Body and Spirit. The Soul, as a matter of fact and in effect, is the mediator between the Body and Spirit. The Soul uses the heart, as the point from where issues are sent out and/or distributed from.
Let me elaborate and explain a bit how everything works, the different faculties in the Soul waits, to pick up signals coming from the relevant and/or applicable faculties in the Body and the Spirit. This crucial bit of information here, is very important to grasp, and it is that, the Soul receives from the Body and deposits into the Spirit. Whatever the Body reads or sees via the eyes, hears via the ears, feels via applicable part of the body, smells via the nose and talks or tastes via the mouth is picked up by the Soul and deposited into the Spirit. The Spirit then, upon receiving these things from the Soul, has to deal with or process what the Soul has deposited into the Spirit's laps.
Fya Nazgul, please note, anywhere in the post you see "Spirit", unless it is stated otherwise, take it, to mean, as in, spirit-man, and not the Holy Spirit or Spirit of God. Thank you
Now, this here, is why regulation is very important. It is why we ought to control and oversee what the Soul is picking up from or what it is picking up with the senses. If you have to by all means, eat the chicken or fish, then its necessary to know when and how to spit out the bones, or if it's straw to eat, then know when and how to spit out the sticks, alternatively, if it's liquor to drink, and you cant hold it down so you don't throw it up, then know how or when to stay away from the liquor. Caveat emptor clause #1 done.
The devil has no power over anyone, except if such person, is in the dark, dabbling in the dark or is ignorant, so I'll advise the curious to distance themselves from dabbling into the dark, to save themselves from misery, but if hellbent on dining with the devil, then make sure you've got a long spoon to dine and eat with. Caveat emptor clause #2 done.
Resuming and back on track, now, if the Soul picks up an interaction, info, instruction, message, communication, issue etcetera from the Body, it cant interpret, then the deposit the Soul received from the Body and put into the Spirit will be unfruitful then (i.e. remember the red emboldened above hmm?) The thing here, is that, the Spirit, by the God design, knows what it expects from the Soul for positive fruition to be possible but the Soul has received from the Body something it doesnt via the Mind or Intellect understand or know about. Wahala don begin to gas be dat ooo. Now, just as in the physical, when the stomach growls, making noises for food, when nourishing is long overdue, so it is spiritually, the Spirit, intercedes for us through wordless and noiseless groans for substances necessary for growth, health and good condition
The Soul, as a conduit, a vent hole determines what the Spirit receives, but if the Soul is transferring the wrong expectations (e.g. like not praying right, not asking right, not the will of God etctera) then the Spirit, does the wordless groans. It does this because the spirit-man knows what should be prayed for, so it becomes restless with wordless groans, when the expectation(s) is not forthcoming or not in sight. The Spirit, as in, the spirit-man, is like saying: Hey Mr Soul, where are the goods I am expecting, please dont feed me with trash, junk and any of all these ungodly razzmatazz stuffs. So since the Spirit, is capable of asking and telling the Soul what it needs, the Soul just has to return back to the Body to honour the request and be asking the Body for correct or "kosher" stuff and not the crap its received
Now, if it is one of those classic cases of the Spirit, is willing BUT the Body is weak, then the Body many times will REFUSE the Soul the request of the Spirit, and here we have a typical case of struggle or power tussle going on in the Soul involving the Body and the Spirit The Spirit , knows what it needs the Soul giving it from the Body (i.e. the Spirit tells the Soul what to do, expecting the Soul to relay this information request to the Body) but the Body, many times, is not ready or prepared to act in accordance with the wish or command of the Spirit, by giving or offering it to the Soul for the Spirit.
There is a rule, that the Spirit, cannot give to the Body righteous things it didnt receives from the Soul. Hmm, I perceive someone's going to trip at this point, so OK, here is the clarification to ward off any confusion: The Soul passes on all righteous things it receives from the Body, if the seed is able to bear fruit and is meaningful when the Spirit receives it, the Spirit, will then fertilise the ''seed'' and return it back to the Body, via the Soul, bumper harvest fruitfully. Call it positive and welcome payback, if you like.
So, in effect, the Soul feeds the Spirit, and the Soul receives from the Spirit, to feed the Body. This is the reason, why if your mind (i.e. Soul) doesnt understand something OR anything, it would be unable to interpret, to then, successfully feed the Spirit or the Body.
Nazgul, do you ever recoil back, when watching something gruesome happening in real life or maybe just on a TV screen slash internet, as in, like in a horror film or something? If you do, well that's your spirit, as in your spirit-man, not wanting to be needlessly grieved. Sometimes, you have to protect the gateway to your spirit-man because you might not necessarily want to relive or remember that moment, so you block any avenue, contact or link to that thing happening or going on at that moment of time. What is happening here, is you preventing your spirit-man from being fed with junk. You are protecting your heart and shielding it from receiving and/or taking in from junk. You are blocking the faculties from transferring junk to the Soul via the heart.
"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth" - 3 John 1:2
As seen in 3 John 1:2 above, the Soul (i.e. the Mind (i.e. conscious and sub conscious) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions) tops it all. Of course, the ability of the Soul to prosper or be held back to any degree, is dependent on the Spirit, getting the right detail, at which to relay back to the Body via the Soul at a latter date, future or time, as and when needed.
This is another God design, quest for quality GIGO and QIQO system set-up. GIGO is an ancroymn for "Garbage in, Garbage out" and QIQO is an ancroymn for "Quality in, Quality out" If the Soul sends in shiit to the Spirit, the Soul gets shiit back from the Spirit. It just implies that bad input by the Soul will result in bad output in return, sent back from the Spirit to the Soul. Ultimately too, the Body, at the receiving end of it all, gets the flawed and nonsense input data from the Soul, this comes by nonsense output garbage obtained from the Spirit that originally and in first place was sent in from the Soul coming from one or more of the Body's faculties (e.g. eyes, ears, touch, mouth, smell)
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay." - Psalm 16:10
shade/yinka, you're too heavy to want to fall for my hand now, please dont. Biko, jor abeg. The soul of Jesus, not being left in Sheol, aka hell/hades, is King David's Psalm 16:10 prophecy being fulfilled. Everything written about Jesus, in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms were each and every one fulfilled, and so we have it that the soul of Jesus was not abandoned in Sheol nor His body decayed. Praise God. Alleluia.
Now, when our Lord Jesus Christ resurrected, He resurrected with a glorified body. Need I go on, need I say more, if not, then I rest my case then.
After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life
I guess that you'll agree that the devil and demons are soulless, meaning they have no soul. Now, the reason why the devil and the demons are inredeemable is because of the fact that they have no souls. The devil and the demons, are not able to be saved, be improved, or be corrected because of the mere fact that they lack a soul. The devil and the demons, to start with, unlike human beings, havent got diddly squat souls to make better, to improve upon, to make more desirable, satisfactory and/or effective.
God doesnt have a soul, heart, eyes, legs, hands ears, etcetera literally as we human being and/or we terrestrial beings do physically have [img] https://media./images/69fbe49b6295f8e5a7dfc0be251feccd/tenor.gif[/img] Just ask if you do have any questions Nazgul |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Homosexuals Have A Place In God's Kingdom? by MuttleyLaff: 8:25am On Jan 16, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Homosexuals Have A Place In God's Kingdom? by MuttleyLaff: 8:00am On Jan 16, 2021 |
SisterFire: ... I am not living in 3places at once, like I av lodges in those places
... good you don't believe in him ,I know you arent an African Atheist who gets annoyed when I say the simple truth that Satan is the same as Yahweh dumb christians follow [img] https://i./FxpA.gif[/img] " 1Again there was a day when the sons of God (angels) came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan (adversary, accuser) also came among them to present himself before the LORD (i.e. Again it happened on the day when the God's sons came to present themselves before Yahweh, that Satan came also among them to present himself before Yahweh) 2“Where have you come from?” said the LORD to Satan. “From roaming through the earth,” he replied, “and walking back and forth in it.”… (i.e. Yahweh said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered Yahweh, and said, "From going back and forth in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."" - Job 2:1-2 |
Celebrities › Re: Peter Olayinka And His Fiancee, Yetunde Barnabas In New Pictures by MuttleyLaff: 7:49am On Jan 16, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Stretch Forth Thy Hand!! by MuttleyLaff: 2:17pm On Jan 15, 2021*. Modified: 4:15pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Acehart: Thank you. I am thinking of creating a thread just for you. It’s just for you alone; but I want privacy -What an irony. @Acehart, I can send an invite to a personal chatroom, with just you and I, in there, all by ourselves, to drink wine, break and share bread. Just holler whenever you have a moment, at any time to, so I can send you the invite, lmso |