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openmine:

He sheepishly called his friend for a lifeline to bail him out of his sinking ship and guess what his pal said,deal with it yourself

Jesus and Michellekabod2 plea for your life saved your bacon and hateful hide

Michellekabod2:
Muttleylaff please let him live, biko

Cant you see how much of a pitiful sorry faced loser he is. If not for Jesus...

openmine:
*yawn*
All these perennial, jejune and comical expressions are nothing but the last kicks of a dying horse!
From his inefficacy to provide unravel scriptures to egocentric and doltish chronicles of honors that MR MuttleyLaff is fully and perfectly endowed with!
No more spam or troll siggy?

Showing off using big cheesy words, in a desperation to appear and look smart (check) => ✓ This one almost escaped my mind to add to your list of infamy repertoire

I have told you what to do. I am here waiting to give you answers to your question, which incidentally in my lengthy 3 section long post, I have advanced information that answered your question, but nonetheless will repeat the information, the moment you respond to my offer on the table, otherwise, like previously mentioned, put up and forever shut up.

Please stop doctoring, editing and changing my post to misrepresent me and what originally was typed. Such dishonesty chai mtchew. SMH. Only a loser will descend to that level of nonsense

openmine:
when you have nothing to show for your rib-tickling and half-witted postulations,you suddenly start cracking unconnected and desiccated double entendre to make you sound modish not knowing you are pleading deep in side for me to stop my flurry of attacks that you erroneously call spam(formerly troll) on you!

openmine:

He has now uncovered that his farcical and dodgy game plan is up in smokes and now looking for a plausibility to gambol for his dear life!
Still waiting for your earth shattering and mind bugging response that you have saved specially for me!

You dont cease to amaze me sha. You are a lot of things rolled into one, like for example, when I checked:
Bigoted (check) => ✓
Wannabe clairvoyant (check) => ✓
Fundamentalist (check) => ✓
Narrow minded (check) => ✓
Intolerant (check) => ✓
Intellectually dishonest about biblical verse context(s) (check) => ✓
Intellectually dishonest about biblical words original meanings (check) => ✓
Deliberately prejudiced and defiantly ignorant (check) => ✓
Funny guy clown strawman mining person (check) => ✓
Grinning and glorifying in a false sense of victory (check) => ✓
The list goes on (check) => ✓
cc Michellekabod2

openmine:
hysterical and vacuous ploy to sidestep simplified questions!

You know where to find me, in order to reciprocate, once you have the answer to where in the Bible, is a decent wriiten recipe for nkwobi or isiewu nwanne openmine

openmine:
God indeed permits, tolerates and adores genuine love for homosexual acts according to MuttleyLaff the defender of LGBT!
Now Say it explicitly and defend it with scriptures...simple!
Being picky with words doesn't make you half smart but mischievous!

openmine:

The very fact that you are joking about it proves my stance all along that you have nothing to bequeath!
I guess the so called words you are finding steely to unravel are not part of English...no?
Knowing word usage does not make one smart oga!
Brace up for more and quit your feeble diversion already!

You just first, show me, in the Bible, where a decent recipe for nkwobi or isiewu is then I'll oblige you, tell or show you, where God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts in the Bible. I am more than happy to settle you with this my final, fair and generous offer. Please take it, otherwise leave it and forever stay put

openmine:
I believe what @shadeyinka is concomitantly trying to say is that he has better things to do than being preoccupied with a fuddled and inscrutable surmise with no single scripture to work on!
However,you are already concluding rather hastily or possibly fatuously that he is pulling out of the discus simply because he has run out of steam!
I would also do so but that will be when you are able to provide scriptures to prove once again that God approves of homosexual acts!
(Though i doubt you ever will)
And dont tell me am misapprehending your own words by replicating your "strawman" gobbledygook because saying that "God OKAYS homosexual acts" is like saying he permits,tolerates and adores such acts! No?

He is a snake, and that is not to be taken as insulting or malicious, but as an observation made. The mask fell off, revealing his true face color. C'mon now, be honest, have I not already addressed the question that he asked me, in the link I sign posted him to?

I nowhere said he ran out of steam openmine. I said he couldnt stand the heat, so why he made a sharpish and unceremonial exit

God permits, tolerates and adores genuine love. Wherever mutual genuine love abides, God is there openmine. Capisce?

openmine:

Oga your perennial echolalia of "strawman mining" is getting rancid and mouldy!
And your neoteric iteration of yoruba dialect is a new one!
Did my uppercut responses intimidate and ultimately retrograde you into that an acrolect mode?

But it is what it is now openmine. I have been telling you from day one, that you started the strawman mining and spamming, hoping you would exercise some self control. I repeatedly told you what the thread is all about, but you kept on, wanting to just deviate it your way, isnt it?

Going over my profile, I often use various Naija dialects with loose meaning interpretations. You call that intimidating uppercut. C'mon jack it in and stop showing off using big words, in a desperation to appear and look smart

openmine, let me offer you a deal and compromise you cant refuse ehn? You want me, from the Bible, to tell or show you, where God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts, right? Well I can easily do that, but only if you first, will show me, in the Bible, where a decent recipe for nkwobi or isiewu is. Take it or leave it and forever stay put

shadeyinka:
The Scriptures here again in your face. You have to appeal to "go find out the answer yourself" on an English translation so plain. I was hoping that you'll bring out the Hebrew text so that we can really look at what it means.

Take a pig, wash it, let it live in confinement at an executive room at Sheraton Hotels and Suits, a pig will remain a pig. Justifying immoralities and filth (for that is it's true nature).

What does the bible say:

2Cor 5:17:
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

A new creature is not a washed and perfumed pig, he is one who's nature and biology gas been changed into that who doesn't justify FILTH.

What did Jesus say?:

Mat 7:16:
"You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

By your fruit we know you as workers of INIQUITY! Such, Jesus say "I never knew you".

The Scriptures is in plain unambiguous English language!
But, a Pig will always justify why it should wallow in the mud!

And finally, according to your advice to the body of Christ, we should join you to begin to practice consensus sex. Sorry Sir!

The Scriptures again!

[b][/b]Homosexuality:
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

What else do you think the Scriptures mean by "lie with a man as with a woman"?
Definition:
Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is "an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions" to people of the same sex.

I WILL NOT RESPOND TO YOU: this discourse is closed!

I've got this unbearable for some heat, so I guess, its become a case of, if you can't stand the heat, you better get out of the kitchen pronto fast. Wise choice shadeyinka but at the prize of a missed opportunity.

I knew there was something not right about his false humility and not sincere about the pseudo-humbleness. openmine would you believe it, shadeyinka, his mask came off and made Jesus weep

openmine:

Jesus wept!
So my responses have abruptly quivered you to a puerile riposte in your dialect?

Oga please forget all these picayune evasive tactics!
I await your 'earth-shaking and dragon-shattering' riposte!

All you've been doing is strawman mining and deviating from the subject title of this thread. If we had a referee, you would have been given a series of yellow cards, if in the absence of getting a red card

Is "Oga" English?. SMH. Tsk, tsk, tsk. "Pẹlẹ ma binu"

openmine:

You are just a typical noise maker!
You are bragging and boasting yet you are sadly unable to give out just one scripture to affirm and strengthen your stance rather its taking you ages to reply a simple question that seems like a bone blocked your throat!

I don't care if it takes you next year to hilariously compile your response to me...I will be waiting here unmoved and unshaken!

Mr MuttleyLaff,once again,I challenge you to reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits,tolerates and love homosexual acts!
No stories! no evasion! no plenty talk!

"I deliberately stopped myself from replying to the three musketeers individual last posts done before yours because I wanted them to stew. I wanted the impact of what I've so far typed, sink and settle in. I have the replies to their last posts done but sitting on my MAC"
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 04 2019

"Alaye, shebi o kawe, shebi o mọ iwe," Shey una no sabi "I have the replies to their last posts done but sitting on my MAC" ni?
Loosely translated means "Big man, thought you're educated, thought you can read". Dont you understand the meaning of "I have the replies to their last posts done but sitting on my MAC" at all?

openmine:
So you can't mention me again?
The so called spamming must have rattled your uncontrolled ego!

Respect yourself sir, just go and quietly stay in the queue sir.

"A ma pe yin, ko iti kan yin. Ani ashimapeyin, ko iti to turn yin",
loosely translated means "We will call you, when its your turn, dont call us because we are saying, it isnt your turn yet"

shadeyinka:
Didn't I tell you that I read your long post?

"That is and was a non question shadeyinka.

It is a question you are asking, to which the answer is so clear that it's not worth asking, especially after, I have advised you shadeyinka, since you were latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, to please kindly visit the above link I pasted, and to read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update and for getting a proper perspective of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Besides, I have in many sections, on this thread, deconstructed the myth(s) and lies perpetrated with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.

You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered, but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating, the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Jun 08

shadeyinka, we've being round here before nau. Do you remember the above inverted commas quote and what I told you? OK, you read my long post, but you obviously didnt read it to see where I had already touched on the question(s) you were asking me about.

To be honest with you, I only changed my mind from going to ignore you and switched to, will indulge you because of how you lowered your tone. Remember that I accused you of not being serious and that you're a time-waster cum precious time killer?

AngelicBeing:
Hahaha, Lol at you have gunpowder ready to face the battle of Armageddon

None of these guys would know what hit them, as they dont know what colour of bird, in my pocket, I am gradually pulling out. Besides, I havent even started on any of them yet. Is it the one whose dedication was spamming the thread with his strawman mining, and asking me to show him where in the Bible, God permits homosexual acts or where God loves, tolerates and likes homosexual acts etcetera. Or the one finding long posts challenging to read, or even is it, the one with his fraudulent replies to my lengthy 3-section long post, whose greatest enemy isn’t ignorance, but is his illusion of knowledge.

Oh Shadeyinka, I havent replied to you because, I was just giving you time enough to properly going over the thread, so you can be up-to-date with what so far all along has being written to the thread

kkins25:
You were crying foir his response. Now he has dropped it nd u say its cumbersome
Muttleylaff, after all your effort ,they say your poost is full of cum...too bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASM6AfzXMvc

Dont mind him jaare, thats how crybabies star do. Like he do

You dont know these guys like I do. I know everything about each and everyone of them. I know how they think, know how and what they breathe, know when and how they sleep, know what they eat, know when and how they like eating, know when they fart and shiit, know the color of their shiits sef

I kept telling and reminding them that, I not only, mounted this dragon beast, rode and tamed it, but I also, slayed it too, then after killing it, I dissected it, to find out what the dragon beast's been feeding on, and that this is how I got to know, with the help of the Holy Spirit, so much about this subject matter and them too. I was waiting for each of them round the corner. You see, in situations like this, you bide your time, smoke people out, draw them into the open, then either get hold of them with the belt of their trousers or get a wrist hold of them and/or pin them down so they dont have any easy chance to escape or try to evade capture. Going for the jugular, would be a last resort.

I deliberately stopped myself from replying to the three musketeers individual last posts done before yours because I wanted them to stew. I wanted the impact of what I've so far typed, sink and settle in. I have the replies to their last posts done but sitting on my MAC

My gloves are still on, imagine the damage I would inflict, if I were to take off my gloves. I also have being holding back myself, and just being throwing half punches, hitting them with kid gloves and not forceful ones

I said it before, that I have gunpowder and loads of ammo ready and more than enough to face the Battle of Armageddon

AngelicBeing:

Kilo de! Hin snatch your girlfriend or wife ni? All these gbos, gbas, whack, smack left right and center
TBH (i.e. to be honest) SNMP (i.e. so not my problem), that after you don finish keel pesin for here ooo, I am QAP (i.e. quick as possible) outta here and you're OYO (i.e. on your own) Double wahala for deady bodi and the killa of deady body

vaxx:
so it is over. There must have a been a free supply suya there

Of course nau it is over. It was for last year December stroke New Year cross over, excuse the pun.

vaxx:
Will there be kelechi and burukutu?

This was for last year December nau

paxonel:
Op, we don't need miracles anymore that's why God removed it.

All we need is love not miracles.
I don't know why you people keep demanding signs and wonders from heaven before you believe.

I enjoyed EternalBeing second post so much and that is why I endorsed it with a like tag. He/she started well, with the first half of his/her first post, and it was a good read until when he/she got carried away and began spoiling it with old wives' tales from the second half part end of the post

OK Paxonel, you just like Ranchhoddas or ThothHermes, dont know what you both are talking about when it comes to miracles

Miracles have never ceased Paxonel, the days of miracles are not and never over. Miracles, are in the news, happening everyday.

A miracle is an event not explicable by natural or scientific laws, and I have on other threads, tried letting Ranchhoddas or ThothHermes know about this, that miracles are rules and/or the laws of heaven, and that it is when a miracle is constantly repeated on earth, that it turns into a process of nature, as in, it becomes something natural, and then seen, as a norm or something normal. Case in point, The Thames Tunnel, from Wapping to Rotherhithe, not to be mistaken or confused with the Rotherhithe Tunnel, was the first underwater tunnel, it is a first tunnel ever constructed under a river anywhere in the world. This oldest underwater tunnel was no easy walk or stroll in the park, feat. It made the list of the seven wonders of the world back then. It was a miracle to start with then, but of course, soon became a norm or normal thing since after it, to easily have tunnels under rivers. So, with The Thames Tunnel, as a case study, we see that, a lot of things start out as miracles, before brought to being normal or turn to become standard conditions

We live in a fallen and imperfect world, a world plagued with infirmities, affliction(s), hardship(s), variety of afflictions, adversities, unnecessary sufferings etcetera, so because of all that, we need miracles, in addition to love. We not so much or necessarily need demanding signs and wonder, but we need a break with the miracles. The age of miracles has not passed. Sometimes miracles are just good people with kind hearts.

I can give OP EternalBeing and Paxonel, an inexhaustive URL list of miracles happening everyday, if and when asked to do.

Does OP EternalBeing, remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29, asking:
"Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? hmm? Guess what EternalBeing, the answer on each account is No, no, no and no, as it is very clear, we dont all have the power to do miracles. We each and all cant even be doctors, for example and to start with.

Moving along EternalBeing, then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says:
"though we covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."
and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that Paul introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1 emphasising love.

Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, confirmed that not "all fingers are equal" and 1 Corinthians 12:29's "not all perform miracles, do they?" is a strong indication, that, everyone to work miracles, is not a requirement for all believers. EternalBeing, to be honest with you, if you have love, you wouldnt neccesarily need the the power to work or do miracles and that is because love surpasses and conquers all, just as Paxonel advanced. Where there is great love, there are always miracles and miracles are the fruits of faith.

JeromeBlack:
There are things worse than death.

But then again, Jesus's crucifixion was bloody.

The beat him, gave him a crown of thorns and them nailed him like wood to a cross. Both his feet and nails punctured with big nails. So, bros J was hanging on a cross with nails.

Damn.

Say no to crucifixion.

From the Bible, we read that whilst being lead to His death, Jesus was spat on. He was blindfolded, then repeatedly slapped and struck on the head. People along the street leading to Calvary, pulled out the hairs of His beard, as in, tear out or ripped out His beard from Him, as He walked by, carrying His cross.

The bible further, even said, Jesus was not just ordinarily beaten but that He was extraordinarily beaten up. He was beaten up beyond recognition such that those that looked at Him in this state, recoiled back, horrified with shock at His appearance, because He was so disfigured that He didnt at all resemble a human being anymore, as in, He hardly at all, looked like a human being after the grievous bodily harm assault (GBH) on Him. He fugly, literally was completely panel beaten up beyond ever being recognised to be a human being.

JeromeBlack:
Wa sere!

Las las that one na for sure. Issa goal. I don "sere" sef, already multiple times over, but as you know, its nefa enough.

Why have you taken over the deactivated moniker BlackJerome's troll personality? You need deliverance of that possessed troll spirit of BlackJerome

JeromeBlack:
Knowledge is understing that I made a point. Wisdom is understanding that I am trolling.

"Wa gbayi" loosely translated means "you'll get accolades"

JeromeBlack:
There is nothing wrong in putting a tomato in a fruit bowl.

I know you’re trying to prove some sort of point with your comment but my comment you replied to, wasnt talking about what is or what's not wrong, it was highlighting the sharp distinction between knowledge and wisdom

shadeyinka:
I think you are deliberately being evasive about this.

If you feel the translation is wrong, I'll like to know.
The answer is a simple YES or NO!

I'll be willing to know the reason behind your choice.
Thank you!

"That is and was a non question shadeyinka.
You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered,
but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating,
the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No."
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Jun 04 2019

Just leave me jaare and carry go jor, you arent serious and you're a time-waster cum precious time killer

shadeyinka:
I read your link and it doesn't say anything related to my question. It is a Scripture study isn't it? I did honestly read your link.Hence, my question is very important.

My question is very simple and straightforward, are the two Scriptures refering to Homosexuality?
The answer should be either YES or NO!
Then, we can proceed from that point.
The Scriptures again:Homosexuality:
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Dare I ask, what simply and straightforwardly was my answer to your "very simple and straightforward question" hmm?

shadeyinka:
I think my question is very simple and straightforward, are the two Scriptures refering to Homosexuality?
The answer should be either YES or NO!
Then, we can proceed from that point.
The Scriptures again:

Homosexuality:
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

That is and was a non question shadeyinka.

It is a question you are asking, to which the answer is so clear that it's not worth asking, especially after, I have advised you shadeyinka, since you were latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, to please kindly visit the above link I pasted, and to read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update and for getting a proper perspective of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Besides, I have in many sections, on this thread, deconstructed the myth(s) and lies perpetrated with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.

You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered, but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating, the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No.

shadeyinka:
I know you have written volumes on this issue and the argument that homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned on the Greek. No problem!
HOWEVER,
Please, look at the two Scriptures below of man having sex with a man as with a woman and tell me it isn't refering to homosexuality?

Homosexuality:
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Thank you very much for at least having the decency to admit and acknowledge that I have written volumes on the issue and the argument discussion that homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned on the Greek.

Now, having said that, you are very correct that homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned on the Greek, and this for the reason that, if Paul had wanted to use the Greek words for homosexuality, he had 17 words to choose from, but he never used any of them because he wasnt talking, never talked and wasnt interested in talking about homosexuality or consensual adults in a faithful, caring, loving until death do them apart etctera same sex relationship.

Now shadeyinka, regarding you latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, please kindly visit the below link, and read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update.
https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/5#79120678

shadeyinka:
I am surprised some people who claim to know Christ are trying to justify Spiritual depravity in the name of liberalism. I do not intend to argue any case here as the Scriptures is clear and unambiguous when it comes to homosexuality and bestiality.

Homosexuality:
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Bestiality:
Deu 27:21:
"Cursed be he that lies with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen."

Lev 18:23:
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

Lev 20:15:
"And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and you shall slay the beast."

Lev 20:16:
"And if a woman approach to any beast, and lie down thereto, you shall kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

I see no conditionalities attached to this: I don't know whether the word RAPE or CONSENSUAL is attached to these Scriptures.

My bro!
Homosexuality is a sickness at the same level with Paedophiles, Bestiality, Frotteurism, Sexual masochism and Sexual sadism. It is better the sick person go for Deliverance rather than making excuses to justify that which is an abomination before God!

SIN is SIN! You can't excuse it away!

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You have grossly misunderstood Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 brother.

You dont need to argue anything, I wasnt requiring you to argue anything. I am just presenting facts, the least you can do, is fact check. Fact check each and all I have so far typed, just like a Berean and a good student of 2 Timothy 2:15 will do.

I wont be surprised, if you haven't also misunderstood what Paul wrote and what Paul was saying in Romans Chapter 1, along with 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 and so thereby wrongly say things Paul was not at all saying.

Just watch, as I respond individually to the recent comments TV01, Shepherd00 and openmine have just made immediately above.

openmine:
@MuttleyLaff chew your own words properly..."i but you know as well as I do, that you can take a horse to the river, but you can't force it to drink."
And beside i was hilariously responding to your inappropriate and unsuitable quote that referred to me!


Not at all,If your mode of interpretation is about the subject of discus(that God tolerates and permits homosexual acts) then i am right to say so!
No pun intended!
Its not necessarily about being fancy!
If you say,unequivocally and emphatically, that God permits homosexual acts,its would also imply that you are suggesting,without any doubt, that our God loves,tolerates and likes homosexual acts...no?

Trying haplessly to regurgitate or recapitulate a rancid axiom only proves you are hysterical and obviously rattled!
Your unvarying usage of 'strawman mining' claptrap won't spontaneously make you sound inferential!

Finally,if indeed your thread was about an ad infinitum display of personal or external hypothesis,then the ultimate purpose of this thread would have been subjugated long ago!
May i remind you that you had unambiguously boasted during early days of this thread that you had eye popping scriptures that will,in your words,blow the mind of the readers and clear their notion about the discus!
This was your standpoint ab initio....so why are you making it seem like am painting a different picture from what you had presented before now?

The underlying admission which you will never divulge or acknowledge is that,all along,you NEVER had a scripture to back your hurriedly gathered assumptions!
Truth they say is like eating bitter leaf,it must first disfigure your face before it sinks in!
Deal with it!

Does "force it" mean or imply openmine, hmm?

Stick to title heading of this thread and stop this your strawman mining crap already

Shepherd00:
If Procreation is a means to an end, what then is the End? Pls answer with regards to 'Let everything procreate according to its kind'.

You call yourself a believer, and you don't what is the destination, the end, hmm?

Shepherd00:
What is a joke about the question MuttleyLaff?

I just couldn't believe you asked it

Shepherd00:
Do you still remember that 'Thou shall not lie' is a Commandment of YHWH?

Have you stopped lying then, white lies and all

Shepherd00:
Smoke screen.

True though, isn't it

Shepherd00:
A Nazarite not a Nazarine. They are different. And yes you brought up the percentage of the homosexuals making it seem like they were too few to be used of God.
MuttleyLaff, I am not holding you oo. You brought it up so clarify it. Why wasn't one homosexual in the olden days used by God? You rightly said they were in the days of the Bible, I agree, the Bible mentioned them, but why were not used by God?

I brought it up, to emphasise that gays, have always being a minorities group from time immemorial, they haven't affected the procreation scheme of things. They haven't ever been a threat to anyone or anybody. They don't hate but are hated

Shepherd00:
See as you just use Hammer take crush your blokosh

You really think so. Not that I didn't know. But I've just checked them and they are intact and alright Shepherd00

Shepherd00:
These were people chosen to serve as persists before God, but because they had DEFECTS, they were not to approach. Even at that, You just affirmed that if God will not use the homosexuals it was because they had a defect
Isn't this what we have been saying since morning? Homosexuality tendencies is a sexual defect MuttleyLaff.

What I tried to pass on, is if the for the sake of argument, defective human beings. Who happen to be gays, are now after the Calvary victory permitted to approach God, even be baptised, just as the eunuch got baptised by Stephen. There is no more any condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus Shepherd00

Shepherd00:
You just lifted scriptures which are not even close to back up your claim, yet ended up nailing yourself by Yourself

Do you really think, I didn't think it properly through before advancing that scripture, hmm?

Shepherd00:
I didn't read your lengthy post, so post it to me again.

You are taking the piss and having a laugh

openmine:

First lets be perspicuous on your misplaced line of thought,you never forced me to any river because i was never there in the first place!
Secondly,your usage of a closed mind attitude is not only flawed but another of your pathetically and weary churned out words to tag people who don't agree with your shallow and indecipherable opinions!
If you are referring to your intransigent submissions hoping to force it down to people in order to convince about homosexual acts then you failed woefully!

You were unable to inveigle in your rib-tickling and odious submissions that God permits and allows homosexual acts which should have served as a base for your vacuous argument esp with firm inclinations on scriptures which you say you believe in...Unfortunately,your perfunctory usage of personal logic as a last ditch effort to prove your asseveration only serves as a validation that you never had a single scripture to evince!

Yeah....Once anyone has a squabble or altercation with you or ultimately, boxes you to a corner,you regrettably and ingloriously churn out name tags to sound admissible!
Am used to your kind...dem plenty for nairaland esp in the religious section!

Any circumspect individual that has perused the back and forth between us will agree that you have not only being evasive and rhetorical,you have also backed your submissions with more of your logic than scriptures...disagree right? Now show that am wrong by providing scriptures to assuage your farcically written presentations that God adores and tolerates homosexual acts! No stories!

See this one?
If the thread was about using personal opinions or human logic which is always subject to controversies about homosexual acts,that would have been a different issue entirely.. However, the interest was how you would use scriptures to prove that God grants and tolerates homosexual acts!
So asking me about my beef or my personal opinion about homosexual acts is not only a diversion but going off tangent and venturing into another issue entirely which is your ploy to mask your ineptitude to present a single scripture that agrees with what you profess! I must confess i like that strategy but it doesn't work with me esp when the user is periphrastic!

You know the time adopted to make your stale and repetitive "troll" hogwash would have given you ample period to ratify your submissions even though i am fully convinced that you really dont have any to bequeath!
That has been your blueprint!
So am the least bit perturbed!

Did I ever say or use "force" on you, in my post that you replied to erh openmine?

You sure have a way of interpreting things they way you fancy sha. No skin off my nose, continue if it makes you happy.

You are still keeping on at this strawman mining hmm, have a blast, just don't choke on it.

Can you please tell, what the title of the subject of this thread is openmine hmm? Well there you have it.

Image123:
I've been somehow mentioned several times on this thread but no notifications. Seun, I'm a lazy man, how do I start going through these pages na? MuttleyLaff should be banned oh, the posts too long na.

Peele, it is a your life will never be the same again, eyes popping facts and truth revealed, never advised to be rushed read post

openmine:

I believed you read what I said right?....unimportant!
In other words,it doesn't contribute to the discussion!

Not a troll get used to it....funny enough,you give a label when its obvious that you tact has been discovered!

I have my reasons for detesting homosexual acts but we are not talking about opinions but about the scriptures...sticking to that without being evasive and rhetorical would have been nice...but I already know why you can't come up with a single scripture to buttress your point!

You have done absolutely nothing to prove that your watery submissions can be used to justify why God supports and allows homosexual acts!

No wonder you call me a troll...because I keep pointing out your insincerity and the fact that you are yet to offer a single scripture to prove your assertions which are basically borne out of your own logic rather that of the scriptures!

Honestly,you have nothing to offer to your submissions in terms of scriptures!

Any time you are asked to offer scriptures you start running from pillar to post trying to use sentiments and psychological questions to drag me into the messy hole you dug for yourself!

Mr/bro MuttleyLaff,just know one thing....am not going to change my stance despite your best efforts to make me go down that path with you!
I will keep insisting that you provide scriptures to back your shocking and futile submissions!
You can't make a preposterous statement that God allows,permits and supports homosexual acts and instead of using scriptures and corresponding scriptures to prove your points,you end up using your personal opinion to defend your submissions!

My dear loving nwanne openmine, every single thing, matter and word I type on this revealing thread is important, make no mistake otherwise.

Also nwanne, you are not the first and surely won't be the last with that closed mind attitude, Agrogbeide my nwanne from another mother, shares your sentiment too, but you know as well as I do, that you can take a horse to the river, but you can't force it to drink. I certainly, haven't nursed any wish to force you or anybody to drink, I am just leading you to water and showing you it.

Trust me, you are a troll and heckler rolled into one. In the face of stark reality, all you shamelessly air are opinions, opinions that are contrary to the word of God, opinions that say and insist on what the Bible never says, doesn't say, hasn't said and never says.

When asked to explain what in particular you detest in homosexual acts, you clam up, lips zipped and go schtum. You are incapable of saying what in the homosexual acts is particularly bad, evil and wrong. All you are capable of, is repeatedly doing your strawman mining nonsense

openmine:

I agree with his submissions on this discus!
If that gives me a tag of a cheerleader...no probs...never said i was complaining
If you have a problem with that then that's your business!

I hadnt said, you complained nau. I made a rhetorical question, that didn't really need a reply, but you just have to live up to the troll cum heckler status, and also not minding your own business, just have to poke your nose in and comment hmm?