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omanzo02:
Hahahaha... If you are satisfied and feel your order is complete then the price of the bucket or transport is okay too.... the decision to buy in the first place was out of conviction the price was reasonable.

New! 30 tons Stonedust inside 30 tons truck to Mowe - 80k

I’m not a supplier. Pls don’t try to get in touch with me on how I get stuffs like this.

What I know is, there’s always a right price to pay for a good.

I won’t cheat you.

I won’t allow you to cheat me.

I won’t allow you to cheat yourself in a bid to sound ridiculously cheap and affordable.

Enu agba l’obi ti ngbo though.

I see Hajji mufutau55 and Egunmogaji2 are mentioned here. They might have some secrets to share.

oseiwe


kindly assist see if this looks OK, I want to give the go ahead. any modifications?

My response in Red. Pls this is just my unsolicited opinion on the quote. It’s not bible.

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This estimation is for 2bedroom and 4bedroom duplex to decking level
Does this include the foundation cost or just the cost of work from foundation to lintel?
If I get you right, you’re building a 2 bedroom and a 4 bedroom duplex. Am I right?

If the answer is yes to the above, the estimate is too cheap to build anything worthy.

2500pcs of blocks (200 * 2500) = #500,000
2500 blocks can never finish 2 bedroom and a 4 bedroom duplex whether you’re building from DPC level or starting from the ground up. You’ll need more block. N200 per block is a good deal!

60bags of cement (2700 * 60) = #162,000
If these will be used to take care of the following:

- Blinding
- Foundation Wall
- DPC
- Ground Floor Blockwork
- Columns/Lintels

60 bags of cement won’t be enough even if you’re using just 2500 blocks.

15tonnes of granite = #85,000
This will work for column/lintels but not inclusive of foundation

20tonnes of sharp sand = #60,000
Maybe for ground floor blockwork and lintel. You can always check/compare prices with locals.

20tonnes of soft sand = #50,000
I don’t know about this one.

Half tonne of 12mm iron = #130,000
This is for what exactly.

If it’s Lintels/Column, it’s impossible! Beside, it’s recommended that you use a 16mm Rods for Column supporting a slab (decking)


Iron for decking
This is confusing though!

8pcs of 16mm iron (4,800 * = #38,400
The price is right. The quantity is impossible for whatever you’re planning.

I am stopping here until I get further clarification on exactly what you’re trying to achieve.

20lenghts of 10mm iron = #44,000

1 roll of binding wire = *#8,000*

Planks for pillar and linted*�
50pcs if planks (1400 * 50) = *#70,000*
1bag of nail = *#6,000*
Workmanship = *#350,000*
*******

For pegging
If pegging is involved, it means you’re doing foundation. Just forget about it sir! The total estimate won’t get you off ground in any part of the South West.

6pcs of somi planks (1400 * 6) = 8400*
Cutting of some planks (200 * 6) = *1200*
2 bundle of Peggy wood (2500 *2) = *#5000*
Nail = 3,000
*Total = #1,521,4000*[/quote]

earthrealm:
whatever you do, dont buy mecury inverters, its a pile of horses,h.it. most mecury inverters are modified sine wave, not pure sine wave, spoils inductive loads, like fans, clipper, blender etc.

seems you have a small inverter?. i recommend 3 to 4kva for most family homes.with minimum 4 batts
there is a nifty device you can buy and install in your inverter output, to prevent it being inadvertently overloaded, will post the pic later.i have been using inverters since 2009. none had any serious issue, apart from my elcheapo first inverter 1kva, 25k then, it stopped charging, but still inverts, i added a small charger to it. till i gave it out when i upgraded

I started with small inverter and one battery setup. Now on Xantrex. I have different setups tho.

This is what I’ve found out. Every product you’ve not used is always better.

temi4fash:
Yes they did

I sent you a mail

Great! I’ve not received your email though.


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Received. I’ve responded.

michlins:
1k and the painter will be happy. Less than one hour work. Shey na one color wey be black that doesn't take time to coat

What I didn’t show was that they applied body filler like they wanted to paint a car on the gate before painting.

This wasn’t the 1 colour in 1 hour type.

That gate has been painted over 8 years ago and it never fade nor rust.

@temifash have they delivered the package?

Badgers14:
I refuse to quote anyone

But brethren, let's settle this thing on the premise that some things are cheaper in certain areas and more expensive some where else.

Now I quote you. Comman beat me

The bolded sum everything up. Labour is cheeeeaaap on your side.

One can never try this figures in Lagos where some welders pay more than 300k per month for ground rent.

Not even anywhere in the Southwest where welders are automatically billed hire than anyone else by PHCN or where skilled labourers are few.

I love the great people making it work in your region.

Thank you.

I’m sure I can pay painter like 2k to paint this type of gate on that side.

I can never search for or find anyone who’d do that amount here.

Dropping mic for tonight.... Badger14, I don’t quote you o

But I’m enjoying you anyway. Thanks for sharing.

We are learning each day. Today, I’ve learnt not to crucify our people here. Their eyes dey see!

Drama

Badgers14 I won’t quote you o.

I’m made to understand that painter take 500 per door and labourers charge 1,000 per door.

That’s good to know that there’s a region in Nigeria where people are making it work.

I doubt it if you’ll ever find any painter here do that job if you offer them 500 to paint that type of door.

I dinnor quote anyone. Don’t quote me o!

perfectsmiles:
Good day.
As for what happened to your neighbour this is as a result of either of the following or even both.
1) Use of inferior materials
2) Lack of proper system sizing.

Sorry, this might be a long one but, you will surely get value from it.

1) As we all know just like every other aspect of life there are fake materials out there in the market thanks to Chinko products (very good Chinko dey ooo) and is not really easy to identify some of the fake ones, it only takes a professional to be able to identify them.
Sometimes the home-owner looking for cheaper products end up falling into the hands of hungry solar installers and at the end, they get those inferior materials for them because they are looking for money. Before you know what is happening and in the shortest period of time everything fails. Thus, bringing about pain, regret and frustration.
These types of unsatisfied customers are the ones that end up preaching the gospel of solar being a scam and a waste of money.

Note: The pain of a poor job will always overshadow a cheap price.

2) And the other reason is the lack of proper solar system sizing. every component of solar energy is meant to sized properly starting from the solar panels, the inverter the solar battery, charger controller the size of wire and even protective breaker. Once any component is not properly sized that solar installation is bound to fail, so what really happened to your neighbour is that his system was not really sized well. Once it runs on an undersized battery or panel the system will fail.

Let's take for instance what your system is meant to carry is 4 batteries from the sizing done using some design calculation, rather you end up using just 2 batteries. These 2 batteries will be overworked and thus making it to fail within a short time.
Batteries are not supposed to be drained down to 0% in good system sizing. Batteries are supposed to be drained up to 50% and the remaining batteries are doing the other work because there is provision for backup.
So what really happened to your Neighbour is that there was no proper system sizing so the batteries were draining and no sufficient charges from the solar panel. Probably what is even charging up the battery from the solar panel is not even up to what is being drained from the battery, so that will make the batteries week. It will work very well in the first few months and that is the end.

So to properly size a system some calculations are being carried out, and that can be done by taking into cognizance the loads to be used in the house and not the size of the house (two bedrooms flat, three rooms and polour) as some persons feel.

I believe this really clear some issues.

Solar is really an investment with high ROI (return on investment). These is because it will take off the cost of buying fuel and paying for energy, stress, gen noise and carbon emission, thus keeping your family safe. But note it takes a while and can be achieved when handled by a professional solar engineer and not anyhow installers out here.

Thank you.
For any advice, you can check my signature and DM for help, consultation, quotes or any solar related issues

Engr. Chinedu.

Thanks. I got value.

mufutau55:
Na wah o. Nah that Chinese kobo-kobo side I dey o.

Hajji M.

If not for you sir, I will have done the N2m inverter.

Eshin iwaju ni t’eyin nwo sare

I got good backup systems from this Naija Based Solar Power Company, Afriipower https://afriipower.com/ Their after-sales is

I can’t even remember who recommend them to me.

So I went to fight my welder this afternoon for keeping mum when I asked him why he’d sell a door of 18k for 45k when the most expensive component is just N4500.

He said “I didn’t respond because I wanted you to go and see for yourself.” He asked me to take pen and do the calculations.

1. 1 ^1/2 x 3 pipe (frame for the door)
2. Designed Plate
3. 9in External Frame
4. Hinges
5. 1 inch pipe for braces
6. Electrode
7. Lock (He said I shouldn’t bother about this)
8. Painter
9. Transport

10. He said “Go and arrange all the items listed above (whatever quality you want) and pay me any amount you like for the job. Remember, I will cut, weld, grind and use diesel//electricity.”

I just had to apologize to him and move on.

Please, do not quote this message.

Now I know better.

omanzo02:
Ok thanks,......though there is an aluminium roofing factory not far from my project, I will see what they have to offer or what's is available in my region.

That makes a lot of sense.

debeey87:
Has anyone done work with @SurveyorGeo, plan contracting him for land survey.

I haven’t worked with him before but I don’t think that should stop you from contracting him for your survey.

All the artisans and suppliers on this platform have not met or work with most of their clients before. We just do it with faith and trusting that all will be well.

With his contributions here so far, I believe he’ll do a good job.

Discuss a good payment plan with him and let’s have your feedback after the job.
Ensure he’s easily accessible anytime needed. I once engage a surveyor from Ogun state to work on a project in Lagos, it wasn’t a sweet experience.

Thank you sir/ma’am.

n3xt:
Interlock Updates: Concrete Pigments

You can by natural color concrete pigments to your concrete to produce a natural stone color or other decorative colorations.

I’m using red oxide and black for this project. 1kg bag is sold N1,300 and it can produce about 10sqm of stone.

#brabusinterlockDIY

It has been a while since my last update on the interlocking project. We already got over 260sqm of 8cm interlocking bricks ready onsite.

EgunMogaji2:
And this is why I focus on institutional sales now. Invariably with private parties it typically ends in why should I buy your Benz GL when Nkechi will sell me Kia Sorento for less. Me I’m retired I no want wahala

I still respect you guys making it work in Nigeria.

This is what has led me to buy 4 inverter when I could have gotten just one good inverter.

Na “oga this one cheap” make me dey buy o

EgunMogaji2:
I am looking for a plot of land specifically and directly facing either Elebu Road or Akala Express. Also on Abeokuta/Ibadan road (also directly facing this road), preferable just before Command or anywhere after outbound towards Omi Adio.

Thanks guys.

My client have 14 plots on that filling site in that area. You might want to check if the seller still have more. It’s being sold by the Agbomeji family.

Caterpillar is currently working on the part we got in front of the road.

Horlardorjah:
in as much as I agree with what u said but I differ on brabus(next), he hasn't said anything bad so far and is even encouraging the guy to keep his head up.

This is Nairaland with the tradition of attacking the messenger and overlooking the message. I’m not buying data for anyone. So it’s a free world!

No matter how hard anyone try, the Brabus you once knew is no more. I won’t dignify critics with response.

I just wan come play here.

BIGGIE121:
is it for the stone dust only or including transport??


whether the client is rich or not, that's the normal amount we buy stone dust here in Ilorin , please I.want to know how much you bought yours per bucket??

72k is for 30 tons of stonedust delivered to site in 30 tons truck.

I don’t ask any further question. I just give my price, the type of truck I wanted and the address. I don’t care about the price of bucket or transport.

EgunMogaji2:
This brings up another interesting point.

Owners needs to pay attention to solar equipment more than a generator. For gen you just change oil and you're done, maybe air filter once in a while. But for solar you need to watch the alarms and interpret, monitor the harvesting, for lead acid batteries top up the water, etc Not daunting but those that just install the solar system and forget about it usually have issues.

The cheap inverters might not have overload protection, battery level monitoring, etc and the reason why I like hybrid inverters is that if push comes to show you can always fire your gen to charge the batteries. Nothing kills a battery faster than not properly charging them or letting them run down to zero.

This is completely true.

I once had issues with my generator. It was not charging the batteries. It was the inverter that showed me that the current supplied by the generator is too low.

The generator was still making the usual noise

Better soup na money kill am

earthrealm:
I suspect ypur neighbours own failed cos of overloading.
He probablly had only 4 batteries and put ac on it.
8 x 12v x 200ah batteries is the minimum size of batteey you shud have b4 thinking of ac.

Its like using 2001 camry to tow a truck, it will tow the truck ok, but be prepared To replace gear box and or engine after that

My 4th inverter got damaged because my in-law decided to try pressing iron on it.

The inverter (Mercury) blew. But my latest inverter will trip off and put a message on the screen.

A lot of people do overload their system.
I’ve had 3 since 8 years ago and added the 4th one 2018 without major issues.

Leezah:
Mr Aliu 0703 672 9022 installer.

Thanks.

Leezah:
it all dependent on your pocket size.
1 battery
2 panels
Accessories maybe 50k. I use inverter AC and it carries my Washing machine. It not the size of your apartment, usage is key.

During the day, I only use tv especially during cold weather, all lights are off during the day, you use light when you need it. The AC works for maximum 6hrs and then I cool off with the fan.

It a 3-bedroom apartment.

Pls do you mind sharing the contact of your supplier/installer with me.

Thanks.

MrOkenwa:
The instability in the prices of materials is very discouraging. Upon reading baba eegun's comment about possible increase in price, I immediately called chekitout if he could supply 120 bags but he told me that he was not available at that time. I was able to buy 100 bags from the neighborhood, at the rate of 2,650 before they stopped selling to us, based on suspicion.
My target is 200 bags. I'll see if we can get more today, before they hike the price in Abeokuta.

Beware of making upfront payment/deposit in time like this though to avoid stories that touch.

This is the time when the delivery truck get spoilt on the road or the machine they’re using to produce cement need maintenance and they’ve called engineers from Singapore to come and fix it.

Buy whatever quantity you can see if the price is good.

I really don’t know why and how. I just knew 72k is fair price to pay for a 30 tons stonedust in Ibadan. I paid 70k last week.

My client is not a “yahoo boy” nor a “senator.”

BIGGIE121:
wow!!!! N72,000 for 30tons of stone dust, that's very cheap compared to the amount we pay for 30tons of stone dust here In Ilorin.

In Ilorin here 5tons of stone dust goes for N13,000 minus transport, so we buy 30tons for 78k+ transport 30k =108k for 30tons in Ilorin.

how did you go about buying 30tons of stone dust for 72k in Ibadan

earthrealm:
For uninformed people, or hotels.
Its a no brainer using generator in this day and age by an avg nigerian.
I detest gen noise.

We’re currently converting a hotel design into mini flats. We completed the carcass during the lockdown before the client took a U-Turn on the original design.

Reason: Running Cost

MrOkenwa:
The instability in the prices of materials is very discouraging. Upon reading baba eegun's comment about possible increase in price, I immediately called chekitout if he could supply 120 bags but he told me that he was not available at that time. I was able to buy 100 bags from the neighborhood, at the rate of 2,650 before they stopped selling to us, based on suspicion.
My target is 200 bags. I'll see if we can get more today, before they hike the price in Abeokuta.

I pray you get it.

https://www.nairaland.com/6060778/containers-sale-price-reduction-220k

cc: earthrealm

earthrealm:
For uninformed people, or hotels.
Its a no brainer using generator in this day and age by an avg nigerian.
I detest gen noise.

Part of the reason is that the renewable energy biz juust like other sectors in nigeria is unregulated.
Clowns fronting as installerrs, who make a mess of things, making people to believe solar doesnt work.

My folks the in the village has been hving 247 light since 2013 or so all thanks to solar, as phcn is non existent there.
4 batts, 8 panels, 1.5kva inverter.
Fridge runs 8am to 4.30pm daily, controlled by timer socket

@ 20ft container, am interested as well, prices am seeing are quite discouraging, plus transport cost. As lagos seems to be the epicenter

Intellectual discussions is one of the many reasons I love this platform.

I know I’m putting one up pretty soon on my ongoing project. I’d be happy to share.


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I think I saw a thread where a guy advertised 20ft container for 300k or less, can’t remember. It was recent. I’ll check now.

EgunMogaji2:
I paid N3,100 including delivery for 25 bags. Wanted to buy more but was rationed. That was a N500 per bag increase for me.

I now understand why you guys build a site storage store. I’m already looking for a 20” container to use for that.

What hurt me more was the lower exchange rate

That’s the situation right now. We were lucky to get the 200 bags.


Experience has shown me that it’s always better to buy in bulk. It’s safer and cheaper in the long run if you want to avoid cost overrun.

I had to invest in a mobile storage for this cos the cost of building storage facility aren’t cheap too